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[Stroggy]

Originally posted by troop18546@Jun 6 2005, 02:51 PM
The strong countries

What strong countries? In case you haven't noticed the economy isn't all that great, and neither is employment (thanks in no small part to low-wage workers from the new european member states)

The strong countries will have a great comrade if they help it build its spirit and power.

The EU isn't a charity, you know?

[PrejudiceSucks]

@ Spoonman

I reckon that eventually people will either swing one wasy or another on the views held by themselves and their communities and will either take it upon themselves to do something about it or join them and fight the opposite factions to be honest.

A bit like the American Civil War, but with different languages involved making surrenders harder to obtain/easier to ignore.

[troop18546]

Originally posted by Stroggy+Jun 6 2005, 07:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stroggy @ Jun 6 2005, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-troop18546@Jun 6 2005, 02:51 PM
The strong countries

What strong countries? In case you haven't noticed the economy isn't all that great, and neither is employment (thanks in no small part to low-wage workers from the new european member states)

The strong countries will have a great comrade if they help it build its spirit and power.

The EU isn't a charity, you know? [/b][/quote]
It's not that "oooh look, everything is great in EU, blah blah..."
It's just thoughts for a better world, man.
If you want war - you can get it in a few seconds.
I just wanted to mention that the protection against other countries in a possible war would be highly increased.
Not to flame, but dont spread pesimistic thoughts about everything.

[Tulac]

I think joining the EU would be good for us (we're not in it yet), because many of laws that would be applied from EU, and the whole justice system are much better there, and would put an and to the corruption, and lesser the instabilities in my country, making it more favorable for investors, which would be good both for us and for the foreign(EU) investors...

[PrejudiceSucks]

Hmm this is sad but true. War comes about so quickly and yet peace evades us all... how poetic yet saddening.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by troop18546@Jun 6 2005, 07:43 PM
but dont spread pesimistic thoughts about everything.

I hate to burst your bubble of optimism but in politics things are rarely rose-coloured.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Jun 6 2005, 09:35 PM
...in politics things are rarely rose-coloured.

Unless we're talking about the equal rights for for the homosexual communities. But even there the intolerance level is extremely high (at least in my homo/xeno/intelecto... phobic country).

[PrejudiceSucks]

I think that it is in a lot of places and to be honest I think that people will never be really tolerant of them.

Whilst I agree that gay marriage etc. is good, people creating rules at workplaces to 'protect' them from anti-homosexuals can do more damage than good, as the homophobics feel left out and start to take their anger out on them.

There's no real answer to a lot of problems like this, the best one would be to have a world free of prejudice, but if I'm being honest I know that a world like that will never exist.

[Sebatianos]

Luckily PrejudiceSucks

[troop18546]

Originally posted by Stroggy+Jun 6 2005, 09:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Stroggy @ Jun 6 2005, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-troop18546@Jun 6 2005, 07:43 PM
but dont spread pesimistic thoughts about everything.

I hate to burst your bubble of optimism but in politics things are rarely rose-coloured. [/b][/quote]
Did I say anything like that? No.
But if countries just stand around complaining and keep being full of pesimistic thoughts, there will be nothing left. Sure, there may be disadvantages in many ways to some of us but in a probable war, waiting for a nuke over your head is not a good idea - is it? Trying to do SOMETHING is way better worthwhile than wasting time on nothing. You can hate EU if you want, I take unions more seriously. This may have sounded like propaganda, but I dont care, it for the sake of humanity... :whistle: