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[yoga]

Hello, mates,

I just started the game Baldur's gate - an old my dream.

First I would like to said Thank You, AB, for your nice program Daemon Tool Lite.
This nice program is very handy and helped me to avoid the boring operation of burning many CD.

Well, I started the game but I am unable to create multi character (for example Fighter/Mage). The left relevant buttons are non active?
Where is my mistake?

Thank You for your time and kind help.

yoga

[twillight]

Well yoga, I suggest you READ THE MANUAL.

Assuming you talk about multiclass characters here (you'll have more then one profession the same time), then you must be a nonhuman character with appropriate stats!

Anyway just to mention singleclass characters are best as protagonist, especially if you'll play BG2+ToB.


Some advice before you start:
seriously consider what class(es) you want to play (including spells, items, class, subclass, special abilities of race/class), and what NPCs you want as party.

For example playing a priest is almost unsupportable (amongst the NPCs are far better options, and the class-related events are at best boring). Playing a bard is unreasoned unless you'll play BG2, where you can choose to be in a subclass (there one of my favourite class is the bard).

[yoga]

Originally Posted by twillight

Well yoga, I suggest you READ THE MANUAL.

Assuming you talk about multiclass characters here (you'll have more then one profession the same time), then you must be a nonhuman character with appropriate stats!

Anyway just to mention singleclass characters are best as protagonist, especially if you'll play BG2+ToB.


Some advice before you start:
seriously consider what class(es) you want to play (including spells, items, class, subclass, special abilities of race/class), and what NPCs you want as party.

For example playing a priest is almost unsupportable (amongst the NPCs are far better options, and the class-related events are at best boring). Playing a bard is unreasoned unless you'll play BG2, where you can choose to be in a subclass (there one of my favourite class is the bard).

Yes, I read the manual even it is about 195 pages.
I do play Baldur's gate 1.
I want to be
non human
Half - elf,
Fighter/Mage,
Neutral good,
with 2 spells: Magic missile and Fireball,
named: Twillight
Yes, I am not kidding, I swear.

But these buttons which give me Class, Race etc. are not usable?
Maybe my installation is not complete or some enhancements are required? Dunno.

In the present moment I am Dwarf, Fighter, Neutral.
In case I am unable to configure myself as above multi-class protagonist, I'll continue as poor Dwarf. (Ha-ha-ha)

I want the next NPC in my party:
Leader: Jaheira
Fighter: Kagain
Cleric: Viconia
Mage: Edwin
Thief: Imoen
Archer: Imoen


Location: Still in Candlekeep. Before my meeting with Imoen and Gorion.
Armed, trained and I have 107 GP.
All sub tests are completed.
Time to leave the Keep.


.. Nice game.
BG2 SoA is preparing to install.
Actually I do not know all games of this saga?
Can You be so kind help me?

yoga aka dwarf

[kmonster]

Hello, Yoga !

There are 2 games:
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn

And 2 expansions:
Tales of the Sword Coast for BG which adds a few additional sidequests and areas but nothing important to the story
Throne of Bhaal which adds additional quests and areas to BG2 and concludes the saga.

I don't recommend playing BG2 or reading the BG2 manual before playing BG because it totally spoils the BG story. The NPCs in the game will tell you what you've done in BG (even if you didn't).


About your character creation problem:
Here is a video where you can see how to create a multiclass character:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex_3IwQ8RqQ

What exactly doesn't work for you ?


I disagree with twilight about the classes, clerics and bard are good choices. As cleric you get many hitpoints, can wear the heaviest armor and get many useful spells per day (thanks to the wis bonus).
Bards are also good in BG, they can identify everything, level faster and get more hitpoints than mages, cast mage spells at high casting level, have an useful bard song and can use bows.


A fighter fits perfectly to the other party members you want to have. But I wouldn't plan that far, just take whomever you meet and like.


If you create a new character make sure to get a good roll. The bonuses you get for maxing str, dex or con can help a lot. If you create an half-elf fighter/mage I recommend raising str, dex, con and int to the max, dumping wisdom to the minimum and putting the rest into cha.
For a multiclass mage I'd take a fighter/illusionist instead, you get better rolls at creation and the extra spell per level does make a difference.

[twillight]

@yoga, just follow the video, and everything should be fine.

An advice: being an elf if you can afford would be more adventageous, because of the immunities it can gain. But racial abilities are just one factor.

I'm highly honored on your choice of name! (And please don't forget to go for a romance!)

PS: never spend statpoints to gain 18/XX stats. If you'll have 18 basic and gain 1 more statpoint (from a tome, khm), then you'll instantly have 19!

@kmonster
Clerics have only a few usable spells, but without time-requirement healing is cheap, so most of their ability is out of question. And to mention in BG2 Viconia will outclass any cleric you could make.

Onto bards: their bonuses are at best minor, and can not be applied while attacking, in which field they are also lacking. Mages are so much more potent compared to them then a nuclear bomb compared to a rod of TNT.
Well, until you can choose a subclass in BG2, where bard will start ROCK.

About illusionist: in BG2 immunity to fire will be common, and Skull Trap will be a very-very-very potent spell (it is in necromancy, so illusionists can not use it).

About mages in general: in BG2 you'll be swarming in multiclass mages, and above all EDWIN, who outranks each and every mages (except Elminster) with 2 extra spells per level!

@yoga
Before I forget: the most potent spell in BG1 (and its expansion, what has really interresting quests) is Fireball. Buy every potion avaiable, and always memorise a healthy amount of that spell! Believe me, there is no stronger strike then casting 6(!) fireball starting the battle with!

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by twillight

An advice: being an elf if you can afford would be more adventageous, because of the immunities it can gain. But racial abilities are just one factor.

Elves don't get immunities in the BG games. It's written in the manual but not implemented. Little races on the other hand get big saving throw bonuses.

Clerics have only a few usable spells, but without time-requirement healing is cheap, so most of their ability is out of question. And to mention in BG2 Viconia will outclass any cleric you could make.

Safe areas for resting are rare, often you will get interrupted. BG2 Viconia isn't very powerful. Only 1 attack per round, low strength, low hitpoints, MR bonus helps only on a few occasions.

Onto bards: their bonuses are at best minor, and can not be applied while attacking, in which field they are also lacking. Mages are so much more potent compared to them then a nuclear bomb compared to a rod of TNT.
Well, until you can choose a subclass in BG2, where bard will start ROCK.

Do a calculation about the damage increase by bard songs and you'll be surprised. Mages in BG can cast a few spells per day and then they're useless until the next rest, bards are always useful.

About illusionist: in BG2 immunity to fire will be common, and Skull Trap will be a very-very-very potent spell (it is in necromancy, so illusionists can not use it).

In BG the extra spells are extremely useful and in BG2 still more useful than access to necromancy. There are many other useful level 3 spells and you get bonus spells up to the highest level. If you have Edwin (or another mage) in the party he'll be able to cast the necromancy spells.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by kmonster

Elves don't get immunities in the BG games. It's written in the manual but not implemented. Little races on the other hand get big saving throw bonuses.


Safe areas for resting are rare, often you will get interrupted. BG2 Viconia isn't very powerful. Only 1 attack per round, low strength, low hitpoints, MR bonus helps only on a few occasions.


Do a calculation about the damage increase by bard songs and you'll be surprised. Mages in BG can cast a few spells per day and then they're useless until the next rest, bards are always useful.


In BG the extra spells are extremely useful and in BG2 still more useful than access to necromancy. There are many other useful level 3 spells and you get bonus spells up to the highest level. If you have Edwin (or another mage) in the party he'll be able to cast the necromancy spells.

Thanks, mates,
You really are specialists in this RPG saga!
(BTW, when You played so much games?
No, you are masked authors of BG..)

I followed the link and understand my mistake.
Simply I took second face image, not the first, and game does not allow me real choice. Now all is OK.
But I must pre determine my protagonist, following your kind even a little different opinions.

So I have to do some work before start again.

yoga half-elf

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by yoga

I followed the link and understand my mistake.
Simply I took second face image, not the first, and game does not allow me real choice. Now all is OK.

The face choice has only cosmetic effects. It doesn't affect your race and class choices at all.

[Scatty]

Crom Faeyr isn't available right from the beginning of Baldur's Gate II. It needs to be assembled first, and you won't find all the parts for it until much later in the game. All the time before that all she's got will be either 19 or 18/00 strength from at that time available items. She is a good cleric, but not the best fighter until much later.

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by twillight

As I said you know nothing about the game. Viconia will have 25 STR with Crom Faeyr, a weapon only she will have proficiency in.

I know more than you do. Anomen and Korgan both start with warhammer proficiency and can even get grandmastery in this weapon type. All other warrior NPCs in the game can at least specialize and all clerics can be at least as proficient as Viconia. And I doubt it's wise wasting such a weapon for someone who gets only one base attack per round. Anomen or a self-made priest of Lathander can attack twice as often per round, warriors even more often.
And the hammer doesn't just jump into your hands, you have to find many other hidden items in optional areas first, chances are high that you a normal player won't ever get it and even if most of the game will be over then.

You simply have no idea how Skull Trap (or traps in general) works.

It's a slow and cheesy process using metagaming knowledge to know where hard enemies will appear. Set your traps before any hostilities happen, let the enemies walk into them and take damage. Edwin alone can set 8 skulls traps in a row quite early in BG2, no need to spend even more time having your multiclass backup mage add even more less damage dealing ones. But why even bother setting those traps when there are other, less laborious ways to deal with monsters.