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[The Niles]

Vanilla commes from the most eaten flavour of ice cream in the word. Plain vanilla ice cream.

conquest has all the things from Play the World in them so it does not pay to buy them both and you are better of with having Conquest then Play the world.

[Unknown Hero]

I have Civ III: Play the World and I would say, that many new options are made available! I didn't play this game for long time, so I can't remember what options, but I remember that there were a lot of add-ons (especially new races).

@Eagle
I always was angry at bigger difficulties about attacking system! The other units were hundred times stronger than mine!
Here is an example: I played with astecs and had around 10 (let's say 5) unique astec warriors (I don't recall the name of unit), and computer had 2 spearmen! He managed to weaken all of my warriors without even taking one life of his spearmen! This is too stupid! (later my warriors "regenerated" and I defeated computer - after 2,3 or 4 times )

Still let's say that if you have stronger army no-one can defeat you! This is also stupid! And I really love when it's tied! (I win in most cases) :bleh:

PS I played on difficulty of Regent (and later of Monarch).

[Unknown Hero]

God I hate when you "wake up" such a nostalgy for this game!

The problem is that the game doesn't work! I don't know why? It worked on my older computer! And on Win 98 units move too slow! Does anybody know the solution (at least for Win 98)?

[Rubberband]

An archer have an attack rating of 2. A spearman have a defense rating of 2. In theory, an archer should win 1 time out of 2 against a spearman. The thing is, a fortified unit give it a bonus to defense (must be 50%, 2+1=3 defense). Fortifiying in town gives it another bonus (must be 25% in town, 3+0.75=3.75). Having a walled city add to that bonus (50%, 5.625 defense). Elite rating gives another defense bonus (must be 100% against a regular, we are over 10 defense now.). Catapults fire on attacking unit when they are in a city. And last but not the least, they attacked from the other side of a river which I think is also 50% defense bonus. Yet, a low life archer, alone, managed to kill several of my spearmen without even being hit once. Sorry, but 2 attack against over 10 defense and winning is utterly stupid.

Actually, a town(size1-6) and elite status does not give any defensive bonus.So the correct calculation is 50% fortify bonus + 50% from wall + 25% river(not 50%) + 10% terrian bonus(assuming the city is on a grassland, 25% if on hill) = +135% bonus, resulting in the total of 4.35 defence, not much difference from 2 attack. Taking into account the elite status of the defender(+2hp), the archer would have around 5% change of winning. Not high, but not impossible either.

The problem is that the game doesn't work! I don't know why? It worked on my older computer! And on Win 98 units move too slow! Does anybody know the solution (at least for Win 98)?

What problem are you having? You need to give more detail. Do you have problem installing, or the game crashes at startup?

[Eagle of Fire]

Actually, a town(size1-6) and elite status does not give any defensive bonus.So the correct calculation is 50% fortify bonus + 50% from wall + 25% river(not 50%) + 10% terrian bonus(assuming the city is on a grassland, 25% if on hill) = +135% bonus, resulting in the total of 4.35 defence, not much difference from 2 attack. Taking into account the elite status of the defender(+2hp), the archer would have around 5% change of winning. Not high, but not impossible either.

Well, if it doesn't it used to previously. And it would be stupid if it doesn't do anymore.

And anyways, it poves my point; 5% is nothing. You can't expect the computer to win easily without even losing a single HP and do it regularly.

[Tulac]

I like Civ2 better than the 3rd one, don't ask me why, I don't know...
The only thing better is the AI, because in Civ2 there is no real "AI", the game just makes your non-human enemies, produce faster, have more money etc. by cheating.

[Yamcha]

I liked Civ3 because it has the option of choosing to take over or destroy a city cuz I simply hate when i need to estabilish a new goverment in a "1" city. Another good thing are the trees. Cut them and the shields will come. But the combat system is really stupid!!!

[Eagle of Fire]

I really got no issue with the combat system of the original CIV III, only with Conquest (and possibly with Play the World, I did not try that one yet).

[Rogue]

So you are not sugesting me to get conquest? :blink: (I was looking to get it)

[The Niles]

No Warez talk.

I would advise you to get Conquest it has some nice improvements, especially if you do not yet have Play the World.

Eagle of Fire, why do you say the combat system got worse with Conquest? There was no change in the combat system from the origional Civ3.