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[Jim6]

Just to contradict absolutely everyone else - go C++! It's piles better than Java - it's lower level, which means loads of fun with memory management, but if you're looking for a challenge..!

It's also cross-platform (in case you didn't know already!)

[punch999]

can anyone tell me what Przilicaturbak said

and i think i will try java i might get vb.net but that costs alot more money then i have

jim look at my age c++ is way to complex for me

[Jim6]

OMG! You only take up like, half of the picture! ... I feel so old(!)


C++ wouldn't actually be more complex than java to start with; but it has the capabilities of doing more when you get more advanced.

I'd advise against .net - if only because that ties you to an OS.



edit: Hmm... It seems as though part of my post turned into a smiley. How odd...

[Marek]

For me C#is the first language to offer REAL OO Support,

I've almost finished nocking together a space strategy conquest game in about 3 weeks (MOO2 type game), and thats only after hours.

In total about 10 hours worth...

Its not quite finished yet, but the basic logic behind it is done...

The only problem I am having is the Graphical side, I don't know Direct X for squat!

At the moment I am just using Ani Gifs for zooming into planets and seeing them rotate and stuff...

But moving to C# was the best move I ever made...

Bear in mind that whilst there is a growing demand in the corporate world for Java and other "Cross platform" products there will always be a spot for someone with Microsoft based skills... :bye:

[NrmMyth]

I have to agree to what Jim6 has said.
The C++ is the most powerful language when it comes to detailed programming.
I'm the one of them that suports hard, but powerful programming languages like C++, and not some easy to learn "stuff :not_ok: ".

And about Przilicaturbaks post, it's croatian my mother language. So if I find time I will translate it to you.

[Jim6]

Whoah - I'm here only a week and I've already got a Kosta!



Actually, I'd like to know about C# -> how is it different from ++? Is it another offshoot from C? My (mis)conceptions tell me it's based around the internet, but all I really know about it is from Computer Scientists, and all I can get from them is "it's muck". Presumably it's good for something..?

[Kon-Tiki]

It's basically for ease of the programmer, but it shows in the quality and ease for the end-user.

[Marek]

Actually, I'd like to know about C# -> how is it different from ++?

To understand what C# is you must first understand what the .NET Framework is...

"The .NET Framework is a foundation for software development. The .NET Framework consists of the common language run time, which provides many of the core services required for program execution, and the .NET base class library, which exposes a set of predeveloped classes to facilitate program development. The Common Language Specification defines a minimum set of standards that all languages using the .NET Framework must support, and the Common Type System ensures type compatibility between components developed in different languages."

Now whichever .Net language you use is complied into a common Intermediate language.

This means that VB.Net, C#.Net, C++.Net, J#.Net and any other .Net language produced by any other third party will compile into the same Intermediate language...

Essentially they are the same at the end of the day...
And completely interoperable...

The real major difference between the languages is the syntax.
For people with VB experience VB.Net is a way to expose the .Net Framework in a familiar way...
and the same with C++ people.

You can actually compare the code for VB.Net and C#.Net Line for Line and whilst the syntax is different you can see how each line is basically the same...

C# however is where all Microsoft's efforts are going.
It's very similar to C++ or Java syntax.

There are a few nice features that are only available in C# and I think that Microsoft is simply trying to encourage more people to go that route...

Now that I have bored you... LOL

[Jim6]

Actually I found it quite informative! :blink:

It seems like a good idea; but it's still selling yourself to th man

[NrmMyth]

Originally posted by Jim6@Mar 18 2005, 08:55 AM
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It seems like a good idea; but it's still selling yourself to th man

If you bought it... :twisted: