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Old 23-01-2005, 05:46 PM   #1
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Im planning to buy a new PC this week. I found the following configuration:
Pentium 4 3,2 Ghz
512RAM
NVidia Geforce FX5500 - 256RAM
1 AGP slot
3PCI slots
Suround 6 canals

But I called a friend (he knows much about the PCs) and I asked him about the AMD processors. My trouble is that their maximal speed is about 2,4 gigs. He told me that even if the speed isnt that much they do the same work. I just wonder can a 2,2 gigs AMD processor can be compared to a 3,2 pentium? :help:
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Old 23-01-2005, 05:52 PM   #2
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An AMD (depends on processor) with 2.4 Ghz should be almost as fast as a Pentium 4 with 3 Ghz. And AMD 64 with 3.2 Ghz would be around as fast as Pentium 4 with 4 Ghz, I think.
Why do you think AMD processors are sold so good? They're as fast as the ones from Pentium, cost less and can be overclocked quite far in comparison to the Pentium processors.
                       
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Old 23-01-2005, 06:06 PM   #3
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Thanks freddy :w00t:
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Old 23-01-2005, 06:10 PM   #4
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You're welcome, though you should know that I'm not that well versed in this theme. Wait what others, who would know better about it, may say.
                       
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Old 23-01-2005, 06:28 PM   #5
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You should try to avoid Geforce fx5500, there are much better radeon cards with similar prices(search the net a little), and AMD is much better IMO, and FYI yamcha even Intel has abandoned the race in Ghz because there are other more important elements of CPU with which speed can be gained(architecture, Cache memory etc.), so you should ask an expert or buy yourself a PC hardware magazine(believe me I made a mistake by believing what my "friend" has told me), also you should buy yourself a motherboard with PCI-express slots(it's becoming a standard), what you can get depends only on the amount of money you can spend.
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Old 23-01-2005, 06:33 PM   #6
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And PCI express is also quite a way faster than AGP. Also I think not only the graphic cards wil (do) use PCI express.
                       
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Old 23-01-2005, 06:46 PM   #7
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OK so is a Antholon XP 3000+ with ATI 9200 SE bethr that my confgi?? Plz tell me cuz I really want to choose the something good. Oh and about the cash its should be not more than 1000 euro.
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Old 23-01-2005, 09:08 PM   #8
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1 question.. Does all video cards fit in the PCI express port?? I mean some new video cards.???
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Old 23-01-2005, 10:27 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by yamcha565656@Jan 23 2005, 05:46 PM
Im planning to buy a new PC this week. I found the following configuration:
Pentium 4 3,2 Ghz
512RAM
NVidia Geforce FX5500 - 256RAM
1 AGP slot
3PCI slots
Suround 6 canals
Mhh, if you want to buy a computer today make sure it has PCIe (PCI express). If you plan on upgrading your computer in the future you will need it. Also make sure you have a motherboard that has the latest sockets for whichever CPU brand (intel or AMD) you are buying for the same reason. You will obviously not think of upgrading your PC right now but in a year or two that videocard will need replacing. Actually a FX5500 needs replacing a lot sooner and I would advize not buying an FX card at all. Go for the 6600 GT. 256MB of RAM on your vidcard is also useless (one that is that old that is). It only pushes up the price for no gain.

AMD CPU's have ratings that are more or less compatible with the Ghz rating of intel CPU's. So an AMD64 3400+ like I have would be equavalent to the P4 3.4Ghz. Also I would advize going with the AMD CPU's as they have a better price/performance rating (unless you go for the absolute best which you are obviously not).

As to your question a videocard that has a AGP connector will NOT fit into a PCIe port neither will a PCIe card fit into an AGP port. The boxes are clearly marked if they are equipt with PCIe.

For a thousend Euro you should be able to get a lot more kit then your origional idea.
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Old 23-01-2005, 10:45 PM   #10
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Tousand euro? You can do way better than that then, and get a graph card in a higher price range too. My comp cost me 253 euro, and has these specs, to give you an idea:

AMD Duron 1600 (overclocked to 2GHz)
256 DDR 333MHz Ram
ATI Radeon 9200SE 64Mb DDR Ram
5 PCI slots
1 AGP slot
3 DDR Ram slots, able to go up to around 1GB Ram
5.1 Channel sound (using 2.0, but it's able to do that)
80GB HD, 2Mb Cache
350W PSU

I recommend getting most parts in Germany, as it's way cheaper there. The parts that can get baught with a defect (Ram and HD) are best bought near where you live, just in case. Also make sure all your hardware'll be compatible (check slots used, try to figure out how much Watt you need, so you can get a decent PSU to power it all, etc. etc.) Also look at which parts in your current comp can be recuperated for your new one, as that'll cut price down too. Another tip is to make sure you'll have a case which everything'll fit into, or you'll end up like me, having to rebuild an old little cabinet that wasn't used anymore to fit all the hardware in, adding some fans on strategic spots to take care of the cooling.

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