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[kmonster]

Congratulations, Yoga ! Here's your price

[yoga]

Originally Posted by kmonster

Congratulations, Yoga ! Here's your price

YOU are very kind and polite, as usual.

Wish You same luck in Your gaming..

(Very silent: Do You think yoga is ready to start Wizardry 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or..xx?)

..Ah, forget to say : Thank You AB and all kind staff!


happy humble yoga

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by yoga

(Very silent: Do You think yoga is ready to start Wizardry 6 or 7 or 8 or 9 or..xx?)

Those games are no match for Yoga the great , defeater of Chaos, who could beat them with eyes blindfolded and both arms tied behind the back. They can be a relaxing change.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by kmonster

Those games are no match for Yoga the great , defeater of Chaos, who could beat them with eyes blindfolded and both arms tied behind the back. They can be a relaxing change.

Ha ha ha ha,

Kmonster, I appreciate your sense of humor!

Ha ha ha,

Nice kidding! I like good jesters because I am one of them..
You speak this for me, YOU, who 5 years before told stupid yoga to wear, not carry the weapons and armors
this way making dead of Lord Xeen peace of cake!

Ha ha ha

LOL

No, I will stop writing because.. ha ha ha

[yoga]

OK. Now I am serious.
(This jolly pirate Kmonster )

.....
Well.
If You don't mind I will do some analysis of the game Dungeon master:

1. Difficulty – the game is quite impossible. This is not Super Mario or War craft 1. There are 14 levels. The boss is located level 13.!?!
2. Technical - the game is very stable. I am using DosBox 0.74 and Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit OS. No lagging, no problems. I am using 1.5GB Ram and nice video card. My monitor is 22 inches. I am using mouse for game play, no keyboard.
3. Initial setting – 1,2,1. You will understand what I mean when starting the game.
4. Champions completion – First line – fighter and ninja, second line – wizard and priest.
5. Water and food – This is vital components of the game and careless gamer soon will be defeated. Try to withstand to level 4 and find Screamers room. CLOSE the door before the room or violet worms will attack you. Start massacre of the poor Screamers. This room was my main stock for food. I used to hit with 4 members Fireballs and then weapons or door slam way. During the game I completed giant logistic operation with 9 boxes X 7 foods = 63 pcs foods. I think is easier to backtrack to level 4 instead of bloody fighting with strong Pain Rats for food at level 9. Water: Fill your 4 water-skins (1 water-skin = 3 drinks) immediately when see water fountain. I used empty glass bottles also. Note that some heroes used more water than others.
6. Weapon and armor – The best weapons are Delta and Darkcleave. Do not forget Vorpal blades – the only weapon against Non material opponents. Armor – use the armor from higher level.
7. Tactic – because the protagonist is pressed non stop by rapidly decreased food and water s(he) have to be very fast in mind and action. Do not be greedy for every chest. Do not waste your valuable time for some more apple or bread. Do not collect every stuff you just find. The only important thing is a ordinary bow and some golden coins to keep, when... Larger part of gems are useless. Concentrate on the main task (usually some keys) only and wisely process with enemies. Avoid battles with Water Elemental and Stone Golems. You will waste too much time and resources for nothing. Lure when meet dangerous Materializers. Keep in mind that many monster have Re generators! Be very, very concentrated, careful and brave, not careless. Read your breakthrough 3-5 levels forward to be prepared for upcoming battles and evaluate the situation. Foreseen the game behavior. Be very, very fast with the mouse. Avoid direct duel when possible. I used spells Fireball and Poison cloud non stop. Auto your strikes.
   --But, yoga, I was defeated.. Do not cry. There are 3-4 Altars of Vi, where you may resurrect the dead champion(s). Just put his bones in altar. I used them only one time in the beginning. Do not forget very good and true slam door tactic!
8. Support – http://dmweb.free.fr. Nice maps and walk through. I have so happy to find dear and well respected Master Ohne Mitleid, who directed me during my adventure. Well, in the last levels I printed the maps, then with red pens I make markers where and what monsters will await me. Plan your operation like Napoleon. Knowledge is sure advance.
9. Tricks – no many. Do not hurry to update your Firestaff before you finished 6 Demons and one Black Flame. This way you will closed the Central Stairway. No, first out the Demons, prepare more food and water and then upgrade your Staff. BTW, if you toss your staff on the place after the door then mentioned Stairway does not close. I did it once but later failed.
10. Remarks: No music at all. Only one save slot. Remember that the file Dmsave.bak (in your DM directory is save moment before present one). I used the next way: When I met dilemma or strong enemy I stop the game at nearby save point (click on a hero, then click on diskette symbol), then Alt+Tab, leave the game, but not really, find the DM game directory, open it and copy both files Dmsave.dat and Dmsave.bak. So the gamer will have 4 save moments. Handy!
11. My impression – This is the best RPG in my life. I enjoyed playing this remarkable game. For me, gamer, who do not know Dungeon Master is not praiseworthy.

So?
Easy. DL DM and start!

[yoga]

Battle tactic:
Even the first line fighter and ninja are not original spell casters try their rising spell casting ability after level 3 and they soon will be valuable casting helpers.
Hmm.. I will politely do not agree with some suggestion that is a good idea to change first line fighters with second line casters to fight and increase their fighting abilities. No, I do not used same tactic.
- But yoga, if they (second line members) are attacked from behind?
Yoga not allows similar action during all game. I carefully advanced in semi dark corridors, not hurry like Mortal Combat warriors. In this case, if any, I turn back like a tiger and meet danger with same front strong heroes.
My humble opinion is that all game play is based mainly on spell casting. Not Doom 2-like shooting. So train magic martial skills.

Final battle with Lord Chaos:
The Lord is very strong...and... a little stupid. Yes. He may overcome my party with one fire hit only. But he may stay near you without reaction. Not long.
--Yoga, problem! The Lord is before me and closes the road ahead?
-Do not panic. Face the lord fast with bare hand and use 3-4 times option War cry. He will move aside.
The only place to kill this monster is small room North with 2 doors. Beware! There is a Demon inside. Kill it as you killed another 5 ones (hiding in short corridor and cast Fireballs or Poison cloud). Now enter this room and prepare. If you close both doors you may even sleep. Some "specialists" said that this action will invoke monster. I did it and no one interrupt my sleep. Ready? OK. Let start. Open one door (I opened west door). Leave the room and use your Firestaff option Invoke. Place out all your weapon, food and like to be not overweight because your speed is vital. You have to be with all armors, bare hand, just Firestaff in one hero's hand. Soon Lord will approached this room. Be fast as snake. Enter the room and prepare for very fast maneuvers. Your task is to pawl poor lord to corner and very fast to use 2 times Staff Fluxcage on it. Lord is very quick. Doing that you have to use option Fuse and..voila!!! Yes, You win.
-How long time you did it, yoga?
About 3-4 hours. And 2 of my champions were dead. Never mind. I am gamer with big patience. (I shot the sheriff - sry not sheriff but Fallout boss machine -like with 63 rifle shoots).
Last note: Maybe I am crazy, but after 12 level my compass is crazy. In normal places it shows correct North and South and wrong West and East. Maybe it is virused.
I am serious now.



OK, my short addition is one page already.
Nice game I recommend You, Caro Capo.
Do not worry, I will be with You through all the game. Just after corner and will help from all my hearth.


the brave, but humble yoga

[derboo]

This sentence in the review makes no sense at all:

The 3D first person perspective was still rather unheard of in those days, as most games were side- or topview.

Whereas the vast majority of famous RPGs that came before was in 1st person; Wizardry, Might and Magic, The Bard's Tale, even friggin' Ultima (in the dungeons).

[TheChosen]

True, but when you compare Dungeon Master to those other games, the old titles were pretty much your standard dungeon crawls where you go around, kill things and find loot in a generic labyrinths (Feel free to correct me, as its been a while since I've played any of those), while Dungeon Master offered interesting puzzles and more interactivity which would later be seen in likes of Ultima Underworld. I think the reviewer was trying to say that or meant it.

Of course Im probably completely wrong and he just got caught up in nostalgia. Then again, he was only writing a review, not a well-research HG101 article.

[derboo]

I'm not implying that one should do extensive research to write a review, but if you make a statement about a game's position in the greater context, you should actually know at least something about that context.

It's not like any of the series I listed are obscure; those were literally the four most famous RPG series before Dungeon Master. In fact, it's the exclusively top-down view RPGs that are kind of obscure and forgotten (Dunjonquest, Phantasie).

[mrglop]

If you love DM (and Chaos Strikes Back), you may be interested by this game:

http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/sho...d.php?p=461068


The main references for the creator being Chaos Strikes Back and Dungeon Master !