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[The Fifth Horseman]

Original thread has been copied and each copy trimmed. Please keep discussion on whether Diablo is or is not a role-playing game to this topic.

[Tomekk]

You forgot to add the ACTION-RPG option, because that's what the game really is.

[Simoneer]

Good choice in making a new topic about it. Hopefully it will keep my topic clean.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Tomekk: The question is not whether it is RPG or "Action-RPG" or an action game.
Either it's RPG, or it's not RPG. Tertium non datur.

If we don't count Diablo as an Action/RPG because it lacks choices and consequences, then we can't count any of the series that lead to modern RPGs in the first place.

Birds evolved from dinosaurs. Yet do we count dinosaurs as birds?

[Acethor]

I think you should change the question, since most of us never argued about it being an RPG in the first place.

And on a side note, "Birds evolved from dinosaurs" is not a fact. It is a theory that has never been proven which evolutionists believe in and consequently teach to children in schools all over the world.

The Theory of Evolution is not a fact.

[Tomekk]

Originally Posted by Acethor

I think you should change the question, since most of us never argued about it being an RPG in the first place.

And on a side note, "Birds evolved from dinosaurs" is not a fact. It is a theory that has never been proven which evolutionists believe in and consequently teach to children in schools all over the world.

The Theory of Evolution is not a fact.

I agree that we should change the question. Most noobs argue about it being an RPG or not, when it is an ACTION-RPG. (there is a huge difference)

[Acethor]

It would be in your best interest to change the question, since now we will all be forced to spitefully select "Yes, it is."

I actually haven't voted yet btw... still waiting.

[bar-kun]

It's not a classical cRPG in my opinion. I think Diablo series are hack 'n' slash for PC.

[onenpiepah]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

Let's approach the matter from a different angle, then: what makes Diablo an RPG?
Apart from the sticker on the box.

I don't really know what more I can add here. Diablo has everything classic CRPGs have, minus turn-based combat. That was the major controversy upon Diablo's release -- that was the initial, "Is this really an RPG?" debate -- the combat. Action/RPGs like Oblivion, Mass Effect and Fallout 3 weren't the norm, so any amount of action was held suspect.

The fact that you couldn't greatly affect the outcome of Diablo's storyline didn't bother people as much as the simplified classes and fast paced combat, because the memory of classic RPG series like Wizardry and Might & Magic were still fresh in people's minds. And like I've said before, the original CRPGs had little in the way of choices & consequences. All that came later, after some people began to retroactively hail Fallout as the "first" RPG.

So, again, if you care to define RPG as "Games made by Troika," more power to you. But a lack of choices and consequences doesn't disquality Diablo as an Action/RPG, it just gives it that much more in common with the original Wizardry, Ultima and Might & Magic games.

[Simoneer]

Booya.