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[_r.u.s.s.]

since iam not worshiper(or whatever you call it) it gives me absolutely NO point to do such a thing

and.. whole thing bout making genocyde s bit nazi.. and unethical

[gufu1992]

Terminate? I'm going on a killing spree!

[Partizanka]

I voted the Partizan one, but I'd do that regardless.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Scatty@Mar 17 2006, 01:36 AM
Leaving to colonize other worlds while we're polluting our world, leading even today meaningless wars the finances for which could be given out for much more meaningful and important things, and one half of the world lives for material values and doesn't care about the other half of the world where people are dying of starvation? Wouldn't that look rather like fleeing our home planet like cowards after have ruined it than victorious conquer of the galaxy?

I agree. Living on other planets shouldn't be an option we should take simply because we can't learn to live on our own planet.

If you make a mess of your place will you simply move and let it rot?

But we were talking about overpopulation, that's why I even brough the space up ni the first place (and others started raplying). I was just saying that there are three options when a certain population reaches too large a number:
- either it migrates (in this case that would be colonizaiton of other planets);
- a predator shows up and kills off the populations/parts of it (I guess viruses are really looking forward to this);
- the specie uses up all the needed supplies and dies of starvation;

the real question though I think is - is the human race worth saving/keeping alive?

[Don Andy]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Mar 17 2006, 12:16 PM
the real question though I think is - is the human race worth saving/keeping alive?

Very simple answer:
No

Think about it.

[Quintopotere]

Originally posted by Don Andy+Mar 17 2006, 11:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Don Andy @ Mar 17 2006, 11:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sebatianos@Mar 17 2006, 12:16 PM
the real question though I think is - is the human race worth saving/keeping alive?

Very simple answer:
No

Think about it. [/b][/quote]
Well, the human race doesn't worth to be saved...
but every single person worth it!

[a1s]

Guys, I'm really ashamed of you, nobody voted for the second answer (I kind of though it would be either the- or second most popular (after #1), guess I was wrong...), even though one option was suggested right here (space colonization). Plus none of you seem to trust elected polticians... which just proves you guys are smarter than your avatrs suggest .

and.. whole thing bout making genocyde s bit nazi.. and unethical

it's not supposed to be genocide, but it could be made into one if you let biased people run it.

A world where billions are killed and strict limits are forced on the survivors freedoms is not a utopia.

true. it's more like what sci-fi writers call anti-utopia, but who'd want to bulid that?

a predator shows up and kills off the populations/parts of it

historicaly other people proved to be the most effective in this role, didn't they?


allso, I suppose if we just colonised 10 more class M planets (you know, earth like), and then have the restrictive polices instated, we wouldn't actualy need to kill those people. Or we could just be sent to semi-habitable (terraformabe?) planets and die colonising them (ever read "how the steel was strengened"?)


P.S. BTW, is it true that lemmings jump off cliffs, when there is an overpopulation? that seems counter-evolutionary (the ones that didn't jump survive, to pass on their genes)...

[Tulac]

Originally posted by Don Andy@Mar 17 2006, 01:56 PM
Very simple answer:
No

Think about it.

Why don't you simply kill yourself then?

[Scatty]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Mar 17 2006, 11:16 AM
I was just saying that there are three options when a certain population reaches too large a number:
- either it migrates (in this case that would be colonizaiton of other planets);
- a predator shows up and kills off the populations/parts of it (I guess viruses are really looking forward to this);
- the specie uses up all the needed supplies and dies of starvation;

the real question though I think is - is the human race worth saving/keeping alive?

There exists also a fourth option, but that one requires that all people realise their responsibility, which won't happen until we 'all' start to do something in this direction and not single strong personalities in the ocean of uncaring people. The fourth option is reducing the birth-rate everywhere on Earth through voluntary control over that, with the preceding improvement of the social structure, and following reconstruction of the available natural resources on earth, such as forests and large fields for agro-culture, for being better to use them and improving the supplying of food for all people. Sounds probably awfully complex and impossible, but it's not impossible. It requires just a small, but hard agreement of all people - that all begin to care and start to work on better life on Earth.

About the question if the human race is worth keeping alive or saving - yes it is! The human race created already many beautiful things such as the art in the renaissance which as such are not available in the nature. The human race was created not to be destroyed again but for a definite goal. Which goal that is we can find out, but only all together. When we all realise that wars are a complete waste of time and resources, when we realise that the entire humanity needs to have enough to eat and not only one "privileged" half of them that gets fat and sick through too much food while the other half starves, when we all begin to work together for a better future for everyone on Earth, then, and only then the way will be open for us to discover the countless mysteries of the space and to colonize other planets if a need arises.

End of sermon

[Don Andy]

Originally posted by Tulac@Mar 17 2006, 02:38 PM
Why don't you simply kill yourself then?

Also rather simple:
Because I am human.