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Old 31-01-2012, 05:12 PM   #541
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So does anyone know if any of the legal (semi-legal?) download sites have this game available? I'm late to the party and just found out about sites like Abandonia, GOG, etc. I'm not a big video game person, so it's usually not worth paying a lot of money for them. I get bored after a few days. Still, I paid $5 for SimCity 2000, and that entertained me for a weekend.

Is this one of those issues where the copyright holder is going to refuse to release the original game because they think it would hurt sales of their stupid iCrap version? Bah.... Even if I had an iPhone, I wouldn't buy it.

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Old 31-01-2012, 09:01 PM   #542
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Is this one of those issues where the copyright holder is going to refuse to release the original game because they think it would hurt sales of their stupid iCrap version?
It is. Unfortunately, if a there's a reason a game does not qualify as abandonware (and the copyright owners' interest in it certainly counts), it also prevents us from providing assistance for obtaining it in any other fashion.

My advice? Contact Logic Factory, ask them if they have any intention of re-releasing the PC version of the game - for example through GOG.com.
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Old 13-05-2012, 03:48 PM   #543
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been playing a long time now in antag mod to make the ai smarter on using planets. Aside from them actively using the dig sites, I havn't seen much improvement
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Old 14-05-2012, 03:29 AM   #544
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You're unfortunately right. I never seen a difference either.

I think the only difference is that they are more prone to declare war early. This mean that in a game in which your home node have a lot of open nodes around then it might get a little hard to fight them all at once. But I most often than not start in a dead end style of system anyways and it really change nothing in the short or long run.
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Old 17-05-2012, 09:30 PM   #545
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You're unfortunately right. I never seen a difference either.
Nor have I. They're more aggressive about declaring war. Otherwise, they're no wiser about planetary construction, battles, or diplomacy.
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Old 26-05-2012, 08:19 PM   #546
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Nor have I. They're more aggressive about declaring war. Otherwise, they're no wiser about planetary construction, battles, or diplomacy.
Well, the readme file of the antag patch says that it makes the AI more aggressive and gives it an advantage in industry and research. Pretty much standard difficulty increase in all strategy games.
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Old 26-05-2012, 09:58 PM   #547
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True. The problem is that it is completely unnoticeable in game for veteran strategy gamers like us.

I've always considered Ascendancy a great game for strategy game newbies.
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Old 31-05-2012, 03:03 PM   #548
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Well, the readme file of the antag patch says that it makes the AI more aggressive and gives it an advantage in industry and research. Pretty much standard difficulty increase in all strategy games.
Indeed. A smarter AI would have needed a much more extensive rules set. The cheap way out is unfortunately giving the AI special benefits and making it more likely to declare war on the human player--which as you point out, is pretty standard on higher difficulty levels for strategy games.

I really do wish somebody somebody would redo Ascendancy.
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Old 17-07-2012, 08:46 PM   #549
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Hi Folks!

Has anybody in here ever played the Logic Factories 2011 Android Version?
The Graphics look better, seems buggy, but is the AI better now?
Would be a Reason for me getting an iPad...



Tried that Sojurn Mod, does not work. Downloaded both, the no-CD
Ascendancy Version and the Antagonizer Patch. Own the Game itself,
but no-CD is better for me and my DOS-Box...



That Antagonizer had two Problems once, i think: No Internet available 1995,
and it does nothing better, but even worse. Yes, all the AI Enemies make
War, not Love, with the Human Player, but they love each other it seems...
Logic Factory thought perhaps, that will cause huger AI Fleets cause no
Ships are destroyed AI versus AI, that will cause much more Planet Buildings AI,
cause the less Effort of Ship-Building, and that will cause much more Science.

Wrong thought. Its boring that the AI makes War only versus Human Player,
and War AI versus AI moderns the destroyed AI Fleets, and builds up huger
AI Empires by Extinction of the others... and THAT causes huger AI Fleets,
much more Planet Buildings while the other Planets build Ships, and much
more Science... the Antagonizer is much more aggressive, but its Diplomacy
fails at last, and its Ship-Building is even worse, cause of the many Colonizer-
and Invader-only Ships. That all is my Opinion.

But what i wanted to say to you all, which dream about a better Ascendancy.
Try the NotePad-Editor and the Modification of the Ascend00.COB File.
There you can easily modify the whole Ship-Stuff, the whole Planet-Stuff,
Solar System Names, much more aggressive Diplomacy and so on!!!



My Ascendancy Mod is quite finished and a damned aggressive and super Game.
And what i dreamed about since 1996 when i played that classic Game first,
came true: These Enemies are damned aggressive like in Antagonizer,
but damned aggressive all versus all. I managed to create an Ascendancy Mod,
in which the damned stupid AI is even better than the Human Player, and while
its Ships are still damned stupid, ... or far beyond of even damned stupid...
it is a bit nasty being beaten by a huge AI Fleet and Weapons far better than the own...

i wanted to tell all the Ascendancy Fans out there: It is possible to modify
Ascendancy to get a much much much much better!!! Game.


And if there would be a legal Way to share my Ascendancy Mod with you,
i would do, cause a Dream came true!!!

My Mod is damned heavy and a real Joy and Challenge for an Ascendancy Fan like me...



O yes, and by the way... i use the original Ascend.exe, the no-CD Ascend.exe, and it is really great!

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Old 17-07-2012, 10:21 PM   #550
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Why would it take so much space? Simply copy the files you modded and offer your mod to those who already have the game.

This game has been up on the site for a very long time. Many if not most of the old members here have it already.
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