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[Calamity]

I took this puppy a while ago and it was right on target (placing me dead center on the conservative/liberal scale). To me it makes more sense to be a little of both because if you're too conservative you sound like an uptight jerk and if you're too liberal you basically come off sounding like everything should be free and no one should be responsible for their actions.

[Tulac]

Originally posted by cheesegrater@Feb 16 2005, 04:49 AM
I am National Socialist.

I hope you know what that means...(maybe you saw my last avatar?)

>>The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.

If you agree with this one you're mentally demented...

My results:
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

I've solved this test on 3 different forums and this one is the most left-winged I've seen...

[Yobor]

Economic left/right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/authoritarian: -2.05

Go Ghandi! He was an awesome guy.





In related news, Jesus has quit.

[Lizard]

I landed EXACTLY on the same point on which was written Ghandi :w00t:
So I am left libertarian :eeeeeh:

[cheesegrater]

No, I am quite serious. Most of what people know about Nazism is from the media - which is propaganda trying to glorify the United States. Our society provokes hate against ideologies we know nothing about.

Also, the German penal law forces everybody to accept the official version of German history. A government that tells their people what to think is precisely the definition of a dictatorship. However, we invented pretty words like "democracy" to disguise it. I thought people were entitled to an opinion? Freedom of speech only applies when you agree with the majority.

Nazi Germany was simply a Socialist party that focused on labor. Hitler was granted dictatorship by the Reichstag because of his speaking abilities, organizational skills, and support by his paramilitary organization. He used his authority as Germany's dictator to mobilize his forces against Poland, annex Austria, purge Jews, and start World War II.

Just because someone is a dictator doesn't necessarily mean he is bad. Ancient Rome, for example, was run by a dictator during times of war. Dictators are political figures granted complete control temporarily. Bush is a dictator, because he was expressly granted the authority by the US Senate to invade Iraq; it was a mistake for the Senate to trust Bush, because they didn't want America to invade Iraq until America was 100% sure that Saddam had WMD. I'm sure the Senate will think twice from now on before granting dictatorship to a president in the future.

[Reup]

Originally posted by cheesegrater@Feb 17 2005, 01:13 AM
No, I am quite serious. Most of what people know about Nazism is from the media - which is propaganda trying to glorify the United States. Our society provokes hate against ideologies we know nothing about.

Also, the German penal law forces everybody to accept the official version of German history. A government that tells their people what to think is precisely the definition of a dictatorship. However, we invented pretty words like "democracy" to disguise it. I thought people were entitled to an opinion? Freedom of speech only applies when you agree with the majority.

I'd be very careful (and reluctant) to say anything postive about Nazisism. It's a foul ideologie that focusses on inequality. Apologism is a crime and not without good reason. Denying the Holocaust is a crime and not without good reason. As far as I'm concerned, the world is a better place without Nazisism all together.

[feminista]

Ah, the political compass. It shows up more often than is healthy. I find it to be worthless for classification, but fine for comparison. My scores were somewhere along the lines of -9.6, -8.7, I being a libertarian socialist (anarchist), myself. The Political Compass is fairly useless though, because the scales are mislabeled. A more accurate political spectrum looks about like this:

http://www.anarchy.no/anorg_e.jpg (poor quality image, but readable)

I've got a few much larger rants on the topic, which I can repost here if anyone cares.

As for naziism, you can be fashionably contraversial and support it if you like, but you have to remember that it's not a legitimate political ideology. What is the definition of fascism? Extremist nationalism created by government propaganda to create a totalitarian order and advance the nation economically and politically. I'll give you wikipedia's definition to help be more specific:

# exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual,
# uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition,
# engages in severe economic and social regimentation.
# engages in corporatism

That is not a philosophy which is even workable, it is in that way a lot like neoconservativism. It is only good for a small group of people who would benefit from being constantly at war with other nations because of an assumed superiority, which is NOT a viable basis for a political system. I don't care for bourgeois democracy much myself, but it's certainly more free than a statist system based almost entirely on creating a warped worldview.

One can speak about all of the "liberal reforms" which Hitler instated, but one can't forget that the actual definition of fascism implies going to war simply because you think your nation deserves to have more power than others. And calling the Nazi party a labour party is an insult to the name. Naziism was always the greatest opponent of socialism in all forms, and it is much more about nationalism than about any political philosophy that is even remotely progressive.

[Stroggy]

My Historyteacher once implied I was a nazi when I told him going to war was also a good method to fight inflation, due to the huge ammount of workforces it requires and other related consequences. Bah!

[Tulac]

Originally posted by cheesegrater@Feb 17 2005, 01:13 AM
No, I am quite serious. Most of what people know about Nazism is from the media - which is propaganda trying to glorify the United States. Our society provokes hate against ideologies we know nothing about.

Hmm I suppose my grandfathers 5 brothers, his mother and father being killed is propaganda? My grandmother seeing thousands of people being killed is propaganda?? Oh we know a lot about nacism, so it wouldn't happen again...
And you know what *meep* OFF, your telling me that I am afraid of something I don't know , then tell me why do you hate jews and black people?
Me saying I'll kill you and that I am better than you , and that you'll be enslaved by me, that's freedom of speech, right?

It's true that Hitler helped Germany's economy but means don't justify the goal...
It's true what stroggy said but it's not right...

Sorry for cursing but I really get mad when I hear about nazism, cause it's not something I've heard of on television, it's something that my ancestors survived and some of them not, and they left the message to the world, for it too never happen again... People seem to be forgetting it...