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[Rogue]

Space hulk works fine on mine computer. :blink:

[The Fifth Horseman]

Dos boot or Win9x boot and DOS window?

[Rogue]

Originally posted by the_fifth_horseman@Apr 29 2005, 09:27 AM
Dos boot or Win9x boot and DOS window?

DOS Mode.

Read my post above.

When you use DOS Mode your computer reboots, clearing all windows stuff and it boots in DOS. If you turn off your computer and turns it back in, it still will load only DOS!

Above I posted link to topic where I explained how to create DOS Mode shortcuts.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Then everything is normal. The game does not work only under straight Dos window from W9x and the command prompt of XP (since a reboot does not occur in either case).

[Rogue]

Yes, I know. The game does not work from any windows.


And I recommend DOS Mode instead of floppy boot disks, as it works better, and makes you use DOS the real way they intended to with win98.

[racer]

Personally, I prefer to boot in pure DOS. I boot with the good ol diskette to play DOS games right from the start, and use Win98 for other stuff. The two solutions are valid anyway (multiboot and shortcuts options k: ). As I´m in DOS almost all the time, I don´t use Windoze very often. Using W98SE (tweaked with Lite98) in a K5133 (my DOS games computer) isn´t a superb experience given the speed of K5 processors, so I stick with DOS. One can do ANYTHING in DOS much more faster than in Windows. My personal preference would be multiboot, but I tried Anubis shortcuts and worked very fine too.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Booting from HDD has a certain speed advantage over boot floppy, though.

[Rogue]

If you don't type exit in DOS Mode, but rebote or shut down your computer, it will boot again only to DOS mode. My gaming comp is in that mode, and I just simply turn it off by pressing the power button, instead of typing exit.

And DOS inside Win98 is no less real then one you boot with floppy boot disk.

[dr_st]

OK, to set things straight:

1) DOS inside Win98, i.e. running COMMAND.COM from Windows is different from pure DOS. While Windows runs in the background it still controls certain resources - it's not pure DOS.

2) Win98 is built on top of DOS. You have the option to prevent Windows from loading at startup, and then you will have pure DOS.

My question to the_fifth_horseman was whether he had had any games that didn't work under Win98 PURE DOS mode. I know of no such games. Hence I don't see the reason to dual boot with an old version of DOS.

All you need it to properly set your startup files. Consider mine:

MSDOS.SYS

[Paths]
WinDir=G:\WINDOWS
WinBootDir=G:\WINDOWS
HostWinBootDrv=G

[Options]
BootMulti=1
BootGUI=0
BootMenu=0
DoubleBuffer=1
Logo=0
AutoScan=0
WinVer=4.10.2222

This way Windows doesn't load on startup (and I don't even see its logo).

CONFIG.SYS

DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOSW\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOSW\EMM386.EXE RAM I=B400-B7FF I=CA00-CBFF AUTO
BUFFERS=20
FILES=60
LASTDRIVE=Z
STACKS=9,128
BREAK=ON
SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM /E:512 /P
DEVICEHIGH=C:\CDROM\VIDECDD.SYS /D:IDECDROM

The extra EMM switches give me EMS loads of free upper memory. The CDROM driver I use takes only 5K of RAM.

AUTOEXEC.BAT

@ECHO OFF
LH C:\DOSW\MSCDEX.EXE /D:IDECDROM /E
LH C:\DOSW\SMARTDRV.EXE /X /B:1024
LH C:\DOSW\DOSKEY.COM /INSERT
LH C:\MOUSE\CTMOUSE.EXE /R33 /3
LH C:\NAV\NAVTSR30.EXE
SET COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM
SET COPYCMD=/-Y
SET DIRCMD=/P/O:GEN/A
SET PATH=C:\BATCH;C:\DOSW;G:\WINDOWS;G:\WINDOWS\COMMAN D;C:\NC5;C:\NAV;C:\XTG;C:\CDROM;C:\PV;C:\ARCHIVE;C :\MOUSE;C:\DOSUTIL;C:\SB16;C:\NETDRV
SET PROMPT=$P$G
SET TEMP=C:\TEMP
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
C:\SB16\CTCME.EXE
C:\SB16\MIXERSET.EXE /P /Q
C:\DOSUTIL\FASTKEYS.COM
C:
CD\
CLS

Loads all the drivers I need, initializes everything I need, and I still end up with around 620K of free conventional memory.

Very few games have problem with the above configuration. When a certain DOS game doesn't run on that machine of mine, in 99% it's hardware-related (fast CPU - K6-475 or new video card - Voodoo 3000).

[Rogue]

If you change your system like that, then you are more likely to have some problem with windows games, as windows got confused by controlling the memory.

This option is good only if you plan to use ONLY dos on that computer.

But, why to do that, when you can have all of this, plus clean windows 98 on the top?!