19-11-2004, 01:07 PM | #51 | ||
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But still they may not be correct. Anyone of the theories could be correct. Or none of them could be correct.
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19-11-2004, 02:32 PM | #52 | ||
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I believe in Spinoza's teachings.
God isn't some big man with a beard in the sky. God is everything and everywhere. God holds everything together. He is the lifeforce that connects all humans, animals and organic life (and everything else too) God does not determine every step we make. It is futile to pray to god, God isn't listening. God (i'm simply going to say God, because saying he or she is simply too dumb a thing to do. It'll just be giving God human characteristics again) The beauty of Spinoza is that it allows both God and science to exist. Then again it is a bit of a lonely theory... but not as cold and lonely as athe?sm
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19-11-2004, 04:36 PM | #53 | ||
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Well, taken from my previous experiance it's like this:
-we have some believers (doesn't matter in what they belive - GOD, Science,...) -we got people that just don't get it... -we got people that are trying to lear by exchanging opinions, and -we got people that don't believe in anything (even that is possible - but really, really hard)! Anyway - this is a bit , and I know I went off it as well - so to return to the original question: If you know the movie - Follow that camel - this is from that movie: ...a sergeant in the foregin legion says to the soldiers: "You live only once, you die only once - so don't screw it up!" Many interpretations - my would be - do the best with your life, no-one can expect you to do better! |
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19-11-2004, 04:48 PM | #54 | ||
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This topic is about to turn in discussion about religion. Why is that? Why does meaning of life have to do anything with religion, as religion is there just to ‘control’ and to create ‘moral norms’??
And what ‘believer’ means? Somebody who believes in the god or in everything that’s written in the holy books? Don’t forget, Amon Ra is still watching every move (only during the day ) |
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19-11-2004, 04:54 PM | #55 | ||
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Amun Ra - the looser.
ATON is the only true god - no other god exists!!! Oops - I guess they'll kill my litle Tutank-Aton for saying that - beter rename him back to Tutank-Amon! |
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19-11-2004, 04:58 PM | #56 | ||
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The meaning of life:
I think life is just worthless...we all come here without doing something...and then we DIE...Nobody will remember us after 50 years and that was life.. I think it all sux...just live here...*adult word* around and do all what you want...if you DIE there is nothing lost...you can just start at the beginning... Only you doesnt realize at that moment... So for all: Let's do what we want...the dead is not the end...
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19-11-2004, 05:00 PM | #57 | ||
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:bleh:
Have a hard time to remember, what's Celt’s main god name? I know it's a bit different than what was called in my country. Interesting fact is that church used that god to represent evil (it was god with horns), just to get those people to become Christians. (that's why asked stroggy how evil looks) |
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19-11-2004, 06:03 PM | #58 | ||
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According to judaism there is no devil.
There is "yetzer haraah" which means 'the evil side' but there are a lot of things that belong there. Like the feeling of hunger and thirst. Frankly it is impossible to engage in a conversation about life without mentioning religion. For a lot of people devote their lives to religion. For many the meaning of life (and death) is simply waiting for the mesias to come (or return, if you believe in jesus) For a religious person (with that I mean: somebody who doesn't believe we're just a sideproduct of ancient fungus) we are here for a reason. After all it is God who put us here, so there MUST be some sort of grand design. The very question of 'the reason of life' is a religious one because atheists just say: You're born, you live and learn, you die, you rot. But it needs a religious person to say: I was created, why was I created?
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19-11-2004, 06:47 PM | #59 | ||
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Not true...
Us atheist ponder about the reason of being here to. If nothing elese a goal you'd try to achieve would be nice - like the next evolutionary stage... But this thought often crosses my mind: - how do you know God is good? There's so much missery in life - maybe he's just a sadistic being using it's superior power to torment poeple for his own amusement. I mean - is life itself a good thing? When you're alive you have to eat many lifeforms not to die - sou you kill. Killing is bad - so if you kill to live - living is bad! But then agin if living is bad - killing is a good thig - it's just the eating part that's not to good - and so on... |
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19-11-2004, 07:53 PM | #60 | ||
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I am a atheist too. :bye: And I have hearded once a sentence that makes a lot of sence.
"Religion feeds on ignorance, science feeds on intelligence." No offence.
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