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[Blood-Pigggy]

First, don't use the *sigh* thing.
That's really strange and slightly annoying.

Secondly what do you mean by no bias? I assume you're being sarcastic as to the fact that they have the two Bushs up there, so what is it?

[Nick]

It's not the first time I hear the definition "American Dream". What's that mean? Something like "Communism"?

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Originally posted by Blood-Pigggy@Sep 8 2005, 01:30 PM
Secondly what do you mean by no bias? I assume you're being sarcastic as to the fact that they have the two Bushs up there, so what is it?

Well, I was agreeing with your previous post. You indicated that there was no option to only kill Saddam, and I was struck by that same fact. It speaks of a certain anti-Americanism that's all the rage with the younger set nowadays, especially the ones who think they know "what's really going on" because they saw it in a Michael Moore movie*. Well, I'm sick of it.

*No, I did not say "documentary," and there's a good reason for that.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Oh, and Prejudicesucks, you might want to read a little more about who imposed those sanctions on Iraq. That was the UN Security Council, not the USA or either George Bush. Not that this fact will matter to you.

[Havell]

Originally posted by Fruit Pie Jones@Sep 8 2005, 08:41 PM
especially the ones who think they know "what's really going on" because they saw it in a Michael Moore movie*. Well, I'm sick of it.

*No, I did not say "documentary," and there's a good reason for that.

I'll argree that one, I used to be a fan of Moore's but I noticed a few of my friends as he watched one of his documentaries. Friend was wide eyed and lapping up every word. I thought "Why am I letting some fat bastard telling me what to think?". He's a bad as the fanatic pro-americanists (just on the other side obviously).
I am opposed to many of Bushs actions and certain parts of the American cultures, such as the Bible Belt and the gun-lovers (which are, of course, present in other countries. They just seems to be more vocla the their foreign counterparts). I arrived at this opinion myself, without any help from Moore's slow... ponderous... interviews... and films that look like they were filmed on a camcorder and a shoe-string budget, even though they cost millions of dollars.

Anyway, I voted for "nobody should die" Saddam Hussain should spend the rest of his life in jail and Bush should be held to account for his actions (eg 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed).

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Fruit Pie Jones@Sep 8 2005, 08:41 PM
It speaks of a certain anti-Americanism that's all the rage with the younger set nowadays, especially the ones who think they know "what's really going on" because they saw it in a Michael Moore movie*. Well, I'm sick of it.

Don't you just hate being the devil's advocate?

I was struck by the rather limited choices, as well.

"Judge Saddam Hussein..." For what? For that he was a leader of his country and ruled it? Maybe in his specific manner

How machiavellian. But it strikes me how easily you forget the atrocities he commited.

[ReamusLQ]

That's a bit like saying Stalin did great things too, and commending him for those actions, despite the millions of people he killed isn't it?

What about Saddam dying, but NOT Bush? How about THAT for an answer?

[PrejudiceSucks]

Urmm I actually just forgot to put kill Saddam only in there. It's forgetfulness rather than political bashing of the Bushes.

[Sebatianos]

??? :blink:
Am I given the choice to start killing people?

Like so many others said - all three of them should be prevented from doing any harm (in fact no human being should be able to make any harm), but aside from that... Why kill? Let them all live.

I'd like to see a perfect world that would have no problems at all - but I know that such a world never did and almost certainly never will exist (and if by any chance one day it could exist, I'm sure that none of us will be left around to see it).

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Originally posted by Nick@Sep 8 2005, 01:38 PM
It's not the first time I hear the definition "American Dream". What's that mean? Something like "Communism"?

Well...no. The definition is here. And isn't saying "Hussein kept his country in shape" a lot like saying "Mussolini made the trains run on time"?