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Old 09-05-2009, 05:47 AM   #71
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Still, they're both free-moving RPG games from first person perspective . Similar enough to me. Not to mention they're both made by the same people and a lot of the interface feels similar.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:28 PM   #72
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System Shock 1 had a 'difficult' interface for its time. I just wanted to pipe in that, after mastering it, I have forever found myself remapping the keys in other FPSes to resemble it, and usually outstripping others in multiplayer games.

Given the number of possible actions/options in System Shock, I think the interface was pretty well thought out. The story was complex, the atmosphere tense, and the environment was very immersive for the time. It holds up even today, though the sprites be pixelated.

I feel that those who'd grumble about the interface do so because they're not comfortable using more than 4 or 5 keys to play any one game. As for me, as a tween at the time coming out of Ultimas as well as UW1 and 2, playing and mastering this game caused a permanent improvement in my keyboard and spatial dexterity. I am glad they went the way they did, rather than dumbing it down to make it more user friendly.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:34 AM   #73
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System Shock 1 had a 'difficult' interface for its time. I just wanted to pipe in that, after mastering it, I have forever found myself remapping the keys in other FPSes to resemble it, and usually outstripping others in multiplayer games.

Given the number of possible actions/options in System Shock, I think the interface was pretty well thought out. The story was complex, the atmosphere tense, and the environment was very immersive for the time. It holds up even today, though the sprites be pixelated.

I feel that those who'd grumble about the interface do so because they're not comfortable using more than 4 or 5 keys to play any one game. As for me, as a tween at the time coming out of Ultimas as well as UW1 and 2, playing and mastering this game caused a permanent improvement in my keyboard and spatial dexterity. I am glad they went the way they did, rather than dumbing it down to make it more user friendly.
I actually loved SS1's interface (which was why SS2's felt weird to begin with). It actually helps you to develop skills in the game, because you have to handle both moving your character and managing your HUD.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:53 AM   #74
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Having such a complicated controlsystem/HUD makes you feel good when you have mastered it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:58 AM   #75
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Like with most games, when it takes some getting used to, it's often rewarding as long as it's well thought out.

Anyone remember Cyclones (1994)? I was so used to playing with the keyboard that I sucked at it because I couldn't make the move to the mouse. I persevered and as a result, I was one of the first to actually play any FPS that supported it using mouse & keyboard. Instead of the "classic" ASDW keys, however, I used the EDSF keys - they're better placed and give you an extra three keys to your left to use.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:13 AM   #76
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This is awesome! I have never really got the chance to play this, and now I do...
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so I've downloaded this and I get it to work on DOSbox, but when it plays, there is absolutely NO SOUND! and from what i've heard, the sound is supposed to be really good. BTW, I run the shortcut sshock.exe.I've heard there is 2 shortcuts(sshock and cdshock), how do I get those.(it may be that this is the Underdogs version, downloaded it a while ago, does that make any diference?)Please help SOON!
                       
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Works fine here.
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so I've downloaded this and I get it to work on DOSbox, but when it plays, there is absolutely NO SOUND! and from what i've heard, the sound is supposed to be really good. BTW, I run the shortcut sshock.exe.I've heard there is 2 shortcuts(sshock and cdshock), how do I get those.(it may be that this is the Underdogs version, downloaded it a while ago, does that make any diference?)Please help SOON!
Run CDSHOCK, that has better textures and higher resolution cutscenes, but I would definitely download it again if at all possible. It works perfectly with the default config file for both DOSBox 0.72 and 0.73 (although it's much faster in 0.73).
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Old 15-06-2009, 09:17 AM   #80
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may be that this is the Underdogs version, downloaded it a while ago, does that make any diference?
.. why do you even bother to reply if he didn't download abandonia version and comes b*tching on abandonia
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