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[_r.u.s.s.]

Originally Posted by totsugeki

you can't just walk out of the medical suite - you need to figure out / find the code to the door's keypad)

isn't it written in one of the logs?=P it still seemed like "just walking out" to me

[red_avatar]

Originally Posted by Blood-Pigggy

None of that has anything to do with what I said,

Oh really so you didn't write:

System Shock was just Ultima Underworld with guns and more textures

I was pointing out how ridiculous that statement was. SS was NOT just U:UW2 with guns and more textures. If you believe that, you didn't properly play the game.

Originally Posted by Blood-Pigggy

people could actually play UU and UUII, no one could play System Shock because the system requirements were insane, the level design was tedious and annoying while the interface was absolutely abysmal.

You're exaggerating the performance issues. It needed a 486 to run well which may have been uncommon but we're still talking 1994 here, when a 486 was the medium system being sold. I played it on my 486 SX 25 which was hardly a power beast for that time and guess what? It ran perfectly. Of course, you shouldn't be so daft to crank up the detail to full and play in a maximised window - that's like wanting to run Crysis with everything on Very High: it's not a surprise it will have dropping frame rates at times.

The interface did take some getting used to - I admit it could have been done better but to call it "absolutely abysmal"? Again, exaggerating. Considering the amount of stuff they had to put on-screen at a resolution of only 320x200, I think they did quite well. And it took me only half an hour to figure out where everything was and what I needed it for.

Originally Posted by Blood-Pigggy

It's an overrated game, ORIGIN made a lot of messy games that critics seemed to like a whole lot but that were absolute travesties when it came to anyone that didn't have a $5000 PC.
And the critics wonder why no one ever bought the damn game.

$5000 ... $5000 would have gotten you a top end Pentium with +16MB memory and you'd still have money to spare.

You can find it overrated - that's your prerogative - but at least get your facts straight. Exagerating left and right and calling it U:UW2 with guns just makes you look like an ass. The messy interface is about the only valid point you made and even that is hardly a deal breaker - it just requires a bit of effort to get to grips with.

[_r.u.s.s.]

to me it actually seems that piggy always try to make his points while you try to get him down and throw childish remarks like ass, jackass or "headcase over at NMA", simply because he has other opinion than you

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s.

to me it actually seems that piggy always try to make his points ...

Tsss tsss, let me post my two cents in this useless discussion.

Originally Posted by red_avatar

$5000 ... $5000 would have gotten you a top end Pentium with +16MB memory and you'd still have money to spare.

I still have the bill for my P1/120MMX/32MB/S3 4MB/SB16 15"CRT:
53,000BeF. I even got W95 with that one ... LMAO, W95, imagine that.
(FYI: It still runs fine.... as MSDos 6.22 PC)
In US$ that would have been some 950$ in those times.

So maybe *maybe* BP should indeed check his facts before stating you needed a 5000$ PC to run System Shock.

I'm out now. KTXBAI.

[underdog]

oh, and maybe you want to check out abandonia reloaded about this game, i think they have a download that doesnt require any mumbo-jumbo concerning the dosbox setups... somebody wrote some routine to get all that done, just need to start the game and there u go...

[_r.u.s.s.]

this version has better music=P

Originally Posted by dosraider

Tsss tsss, let me post my two cents in this useless discussion.

I still have the bill for my P1/120MMX/32MB/S3 4MB/SB16 15"CRT:
53,000BeF. I even got W95 with that one ... LMAO, W95, imagine that.
(FYI: It still runs fine.... as MSDos 6.22 PC)
In US$ that would have been some 950$ in those times.

So maybe *maybe* BP should indeed check his facts before stating you needed a 5000$ PC to run System Shock.

I'm out now. KTXBAI.

MMX processors didn't even come out until Janunary 1997. Back in late 1994 when system shock first came out, a 486DX2-66 with 16MB RAM, 750MB hard disk, SB16, DOS6.22, cdrom +2MB Diaond stealth64 cost me $3200 dollars. There were Pentium-90 systems just out back then that did cost $4800 dollars.

[dosraider]

I don't believe this, djees man.
Uamoke you should consider moving to a developed country, that or you were seriously swindled.
Other possibility: you never heard of clone PCs.
http://www.superwarehouse.com/blog/2...-and_2477.html

..... By the mid-nineties, competition within the industry had driven prices to a more affordable $1000 to $2000, and, as a result .....

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by underdog

oh, and maybe you want to check out abandonia reloaded about this game, i think they have a download that doesnt require any mumbo-jumbo concerning the dosbox setups... somebody wrote some routine to get all that done, just need to start the game and there u go...

Thankyou Underdog. The version we've had for the past year seems to have been forgotten. And you don't have to fiddle with it at all. Just download it, and play.

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s.

this version has better music=P

I don't hear any difference in the music.

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by Frodo

Thankyou Underdog. The version we've had for the past year seems to have been forgotten.

Hmmm, not really.
Been posted in the remake index by moi:

Originally Posted by dosraider

SystemShock
Remake title: SS1-portable v0.8d
Website, download link, screenies:
http://www.strangebedfellows.de/index.php?...1.msg481#msg481

Runs in XP, not Vista.
Excellent remake, runs flawless in XPsp2 in 1024x768, SFX and music through my onboard AC97.
Listed as 'portable' but works flawless from HD.
BTW: read the readme

If you liked SystemShock, you're gonna love this remake, really.