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Old 08-06-2005, 04:00 PM   #281
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In that case fire would be alive too...

It starts.
It consumes things it burns (the waste are ashes).
It can change into a high flame or it can be just a small spark.
It stops burning when it runs out of oxigen or if it runs out of stuff to burn (or if put out).
Millions of fires throughout the world.
Fire starts burning into several directions and cen kill the person trying to put it out.

But it's still not alive.
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:37 PM   #282
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Aye it's the problem in defining life, there is no definition that is accepted by everyone...
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:45 PM   #283
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In that case fire would be alive too...

It starts.
It consumes things it burns (the waste are ashes).
It can change into a high flame or it can be just a small spark.
It stops burning when it runs out of oxigen or if it runs out of stuff to burn (or if put out).
Millions of fires throughout the world.
Fire starts burning into several directions and cen kill the person trying to put it out.

But it's still not alive.
Fire doesn't respire, neither do computer viruses. Respiration is the release of energy from the breakdown of glucose.
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:46 PM   #284
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I'll give you lot this (old) topic, for now... I know what happened the last times we've had these sorts of topics..
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:49 PM   #285
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Fire doesn't respire, neither do computer viruses. Respiration is the release of energy from the breakdown of glucose.
Do normal viruses respire?
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Old 08-06-2005, 04:50 PM   #286
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I dont think so, actually (wow, I learnt something useful in science lessons)
they weren't considered living things at first as they do not do all the things havell mentioned (Mrs Nerg)
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:27 PM   #287
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Viruses aren't actually classified as alive. They're just a protein coat with some genetic material swimming around inside them.
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Old 08-06-2005, 05:58 PM   #288
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This will be a bit for this...

Back to the Flood thing...

Do you ever heard of Erich von Däniken?
He has a very different view of all this, including the religions and myts of people now back through the stoneage.
He has several books about his theories over how ALL releigions connect, and what is same about ALL myths around the world.
It is a very interesting subject, and definetly worth a look for EVERYBODY!
That will broaden your sight on things, and reveal facts and theories you never even though of before! OMG

Give it shot guys! Worth it! k:
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Old 08-06-2005, 06:01 PM   #289
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I've read two books from Danyken, they were interesting and while it's true that all the great cultures speak of same events the same, the fact of aliens as our creators is highly improbable(plus the fact that he manipulated with data in his books)...
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Old 08-06-2005, 06:21 PM   #290
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Manipulated with data? Thats highly inpossible <_<
The publisher would never let that book to for sale if it contains manipulted data, or falsed facts... <_< It is a violation of law you know...
There are highly improbably facts and very unlikely theories in those books, I agree, but no lies in the meaing of the word... That's impossible... k:
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