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Old 22-02-2005, 07:37 PM   #11
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I appreciate all of your advices.
I'm going to have a look/buy on Thursday, and i'll let you know. I'd tend to remove squier from the list, since everyone seems to dislike it :P
My personal taste would lead me to get an Ibanez, but i'll see what I can get in two days.

Thanks again k:
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Old 22-02-2005, 08:10 PM   #12
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Why get a guitar? Guitars are for rednecks and stuck-up EMO/goth morons. Most people who get them these days just give it up when they realize how much more difficult it is to learn how to play than it actually seems, anyway. Even if you do take the time to learn how to play it, your interest in the electric guitar tells me that you'll focus on guitar solos just so you can be just like your favorite nu-metal/death metal/EMO/hardcore bands who can't play anything BUT guitar riffs, which have peppered the trendy music scene for the past 40 years. It's time the "musically elite" learn to play something else.

Want to get involved in music? Learn something timeless like the piano.
                       
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Old 22-02-2005, 09:29 PM   #13
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Dude, you're a Canalis Analis.

So Hendrix was a redneck/goth? McCartney was too, I suppose? What about Townshend? Jack Bruce?

Gibson makes some really good budget-priced guitars, AND you can find them used alot from people who don't know the value of what they've got.

I found two of the greatest guitars of all time, the Gibson EB-0 (one pickup model) and a completely left-handed Rickenbacker 4001, which I learned to play right, Hendrix-style, on E-Bay a few years back for a hundred a piece from the same guy, who was dumping all of his musical gear because he failed at the club scene. They were in MINT condition.

Just gotta mix luck with timing, I guess.

Then again, I prefer the synth. I can fake just about any instrument you can imagine, and I can do with without the electric undertone, thanks to a good keyboard and better software.
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Old 22-02-2005, 09:31 PM   #14
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Dude, you're a Canalis Analis.
Heh... and you can't even say why, can you?
                       
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Old 22-02-2005, 09:35 PM   #15
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As it turns out, that's what the filter does to behind hole.

Anal canal. I like that better. Sounds better, actually. And you're an anal canal because you're being a complete and utter jerk to someone for no damn reason whatsoever, and insulting a cross-section of the musical genre, the guitarist, that was solely responsible for the musical revolution.

No, there probably is a reason. You're probably bitter and jaded over the fact that you were forced to learn piano by your parents when you either A) didn't want to learn any instrument, or B ) wanted to learn guitar, and after learning some about the piano latched onto it in an odd attempt to become superior to the "lower" forms of music, like guitar, and those that use and perform with them. Your generalization of people who play and try to learn guitar is just dumb, mostly because you lump everyone who's ever learned or played guitar into a minor sub-section of the people that perform with guitars.

As for the "timelessness" of the piano, what's a guitar? An evolved lute. A lute is an evolved harp. And, in a manner of speaking, a piano is a de-evolved harp, since you're disconnected from the actual production of the sound by the keys and, in a real piano's case, the hammers.
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Old 22-02-2005, 09:38 PM   #16
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I agree, Void is not planning on doing this as a career, he enjoys guitar music and thats what matters. Anyway, guitar riffs are goodness personified

As for the guitar, I don't know, I prefer to leave the job of making music to the professionals so I can just listen to the results
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Old 22-02-2005, 09:41 PM   #17
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Musicians these days just pull off guitar riffs in their songs and do little else, and people buy guitars for the sex appeal first and foremost, often not realising the difficulty in learning a new instrument, let alone the guitar.
                       
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Old 22-02-2005, 09:48 PM   #18
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Gee that's a really brave statement Canalis Analis, I learn to play guitar and:
a) I'm not focusing on the solos, I play rhytm in a band(well not yet we need a bass player), but i also now a few solos.
b) I disgust those nu metal bands, we play older punk/rock mostly 50/50 Croatian/Foreign
c) I know for a fact my friend would kill you if you said that in his face, I'm no "goth" or whatever...
d) I enjoy playing guitar...
e) My sister plays piano for 16 years(of education), and although she likes to play it, she can't play it with her friends, or bring it to a beach, or whatever...

So Cannalis Annalis don't make prejudice cause a few stupid kids want to learn the awesome mtv-metal, they'll drop it in a few days...

Real guitar players play cause of joy not because of fashion, those who follow fashion forget it very next day...
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Old 22-02-2005, 10:01 PM   #19
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Originally posted by Tulac@Feb 22 2005, 05:48 PM
Gee that's a really brave statement* Canalis Analis, I learn to play guitar and:
a) I'm not focusing on the solos, I play rhytm in a band(well not yet we need a bass player), but i also lnow a few solos.
B) I disgust those nu metal bands, we play older punk/rock mostly 50/50 Croatian/Foreign
c) I know for a fact my friend would kill you if you said that in his face, I'm no "goth" or whatever...
d) I enjoy playing guitar...
e) My sister plays piano for 16 years(of education), and although she likes to play it, she can't play it with her friends, or bring it to a beach, or whatever...

f)So Cannalis Annalis don't make prejudice cause a few stupid kids want to learn the awesome mtv-metal, they'll drop it in a few days...

g)Real guitar players play cause of joy not because of fashion, those who follow fashion forget it very next day...
a) So?

b.) I didn't say EVERYONE

c) Goths are stupid.

d) I wasn't insulting any musical instruments.

e) See d.

f) Why else do people get guitars? They don't want to impersonate Willie Nelson, do they? If you read my other posts, what you said here is exactly why I'm against guitars so much. Why can't people be more independent and learn other instruments? Why is there this fad with guitars?

g) See f.
                       
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Old 22-02-2005, 10:46 PM   #20
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By not responding to mine, you've pretty well prooved my point.

I can play about ten different instruments, give or take, and guitar and bass guitar are my favorites, save the lute and the didjeridoo. The piano, keyboard, synth, whatever is a decent enough instrument, but it's not the end-all.
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