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[twillight]

Yep. Do it by cheating instead of a legal, though "easy" way.
An' I don't see why you'd have to kill your party for that.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by twillight

Yep. Do it by cheating instead of a legal, though "easy" way.
An' I don't see why you'd have to kill your party for that.

Hmm.................
the result of competition
yoga versus IWD1&2 is
0 : 2

I am badly beaten to the moment. Reasons? I am poor gamer with these two games.
To be fair I want to note that there was a moment when I killed Irenicus. Sadly, because of his magics 2 seconds later I was killed also. So I was unable to prove I won.

Moreover my OS under it I play IWD1 damaged.XP Pro. Anyway I was so smart to sent my save files with all directory of the game to save place in my PC. Now I will work to restart the game and continue my ever-last battle with the beast.

..voice from gallery: poor yoga, what if you do not beat Irenicus and/or twins Isair and Madae?
poor yoga: Ha. The life is not over. When even the Wizard (aka Kmonster) had never finished some games then yoga also can have in his list 2 or 3 unfinished games.
Still...
Back to technical problem with IWD1.

ashamed yog

[twillight]

Originally Posted by yoga

Hmm.................
the result of competition
yoga versus IWD1&2 is
0 : 2

..voice from gallery: poor yoga, what if you do not beat Irenicus and/or twins Isair and Madae?
poor yoga: Ha. The life is not over. When even the Wizard (aka Kmonster) had never finished some games then yoga also can have in his list 2 or 3 unfinished games.
Still...

ashamed yog

yoga, don't feel bad. I knew with non-powergamer party IWD 1 is not possible.
Anyway, as you are at the end of the game(s), you shouldn't leave the game unfinished. If you feel all is lost, cheat and watch the final movie. You deserve it.

[kmonster]

Originally Posted by yoga

...Irenicus. ...Irenicus...

Maybe you're confusing something, IWD isn't about elfish clowns stripped off their elvenhood, you have to fight something big and powerful at the end, this is the most difficult battle in all games using the infinity engine.
The fact that you're able to kill the demon but not survive it with your party shows that you would have won if you had enabled "max HP at level up" in the options like most players. It's hard to tell where you could do better, if you can upload a save from just before entering the final battle we could take a look.

Originally Posted by twillight

I knew with non-powergamer party IWD 1 is not possible.

You don't need a powergaming party, I did a no-reload run through IWD and both expansions with a party consisting of 6 of the pregenerated characters and didn't even enable max HP at level up.

[twillight]

Originally Posted by kmonster

You don't need a powergaming party, I did a no-reload run through IWD and both expansions with a party consisting of 6 of the pregenerated characters and didn't even enable max HP at level up.

Ye. Instead powergaming (and being fully legal) you cheated as yourself describes in post at 06-10-2011 04:49 PM.

I prefer powergaming above cheating you know.

[DarthHelmet86]

Originally Posted by kmonster

Here's a way to give the demon the defeat he deserves :

Equip your fighter/druid with the scimitar+3 frostbrand (if he is less specialized in scimitars than in spears instead you can give the spear +5 to him instead), mithril field plate+2, black wolf talisman and the best other equipment he can wear and fill her inventory with useful potions.
Then change to polar bear, kill or dismiss all other characters and have him rest until healed.

Enter the final area in polar bear form. When the battle starts the bear paws will be dispelled (which is a good thing since you need +3 or better weapons) but you'll still have the 4 attacks per round.

Pause the game, equip the scimitar and drink a potion of speed. Afterwards run towards the left golem (always move without triggering a trap), interrupt for drinking a potion of storm giant strength and attack the golem, with 8 attacks per round and 24 str it will be down within seconds, before it can do anything but breath its cloudkill. Leave the cloud and run away, drinking potions, at the right moment attack the other golem and kill it fast without getting hit, afterwards it's only you and the demon. Face him outside the clouds, when your hitpoints go down below 20 you can run away until you have more hitpoints, you can ignore enemy summons.

Always keep drinking potions, whether you're fighting or running away. Use the space key for pausing when you access the inventory. Other useful potions are: potion of regeneration, potion of power (or heroism if you don't have one) for hitting better, potion of fortitude (18 instead of 9 con will add 4 hitpoints per level), potion of invulnerability (base AC0 instead of 6 and +5 all saves), potion of agility (18 instead of 9 dex will add 4 AC), potion of fire resistance to raise it from 100 to 127 for getting healed by fire, lots of elixirs of health or potions which heal even more HP ...

Unless you make a very unlucky save roll with an enemy hold person spell you'll succeed. It definitely works for a fighter10/druid12.

The mighty demon Behilfet eaten by a lone hungry polar bear.
What an epic failure.

Do you mind telling me what in here is cheating? It's a bit exploitive of the game mechanics but it falls inside the rules of D&D and the games version. In fact I would call it power gaming, or at least meta gaming. It uses knowledge of the fight that the characters just could not have and setting up the character before hand to handle said events but cheating, no.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by DarthHelmet86

Do you mind telling me what in here is cheating? It's a bit exploitive of the game mechanics but it falls inside the rules of D&D and the games version. In fact I would call it power gaming, or at least meta gaming. It uses knowledge of the fight that the characters just could not have and setting up the character before hand to handle said events but cheating, no.

Dear Friends in my games,

Thank You for encouraging words. I hardly need these words.
... Well, before 5 minutes I re install and start again IWD, which was damaged after OS XP failure.
As You know I am using 3 OS's at my PC. ME, XP and 7 ultimate 32-bit. When XP damaged I , using 7 was able to save the save files in save place in my HDD.
So, now I have to add only the old single last battle save file in directory mpsave and voilaaa.
The battle will start again.
This way I was forced to add SCSI SPTD driver in my Daemon lite program, because DT devices were 2 and used by 2 disks of IWD2. Now all is OK, yoga will drink coffee and beg GOD for help in the games. My day will be:
1. Battle with Irenicus at least 2 hours.
2. Battle with Isair and his sister Madae 2 hours.
3. 1 hour with Shadow Caster - I beat this demon 20 hours .. What a powerful monster!

Then a handful of rice, sleep and again..
( I hope no new projects will arrive until smashing IR. and his cousins I+M).

stupid and poorest gamer in AB forever

PS: May I v. politely ask a Q: TY.
--What about BG3 and/or IWD3?

[DarthHelmet86]

Baldur's Gate 3 and Icewind Dale 3 do not exist Yoga. And I would expect that they would never be made, or at least not any time soon. Even if they are they would not use the Infinity Engine and would no doubt use a 3D system like Neverwinter Nights and most old school gamers would have a fit.

[yoga]

Originally Posted by v

Baldur's Gate 3 and Icewind Dale 3 do not exist Yoga. And I would expect that they would never be made, or at least not any time soon. Even if they are they would not use the Infinity Engine and would no doubt use a 3D system like Neverwinter Nights and most old school gamers would have a fit.

Thank You, DarthHelmet86,

Sorry for Irenicus,
ha ha ha I am going crazy after so lost battles.
Brother Poquelin or Behilfet is my enemy in IWD1.

Really when I dreaming now every night in my head is real chaos. Pictures from BG1+2, IWD 1+2, Ultima Pagan, UW2 and like are mixed in fantastic mixture so , that I forget who is who and from what game !!


crazy yoga indeed

[yoga]

I started again IWD successfully.

My dear GOD, support my hand, my sword!!



crazy yoga


PS: Kmonster, really Poquelin send me 3 Shadows and more helpers to beat me.
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