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[DeathDude]

Just picked up the new Dream Theater Live DVD 20th Anniversary, Score, incredible is the only way to describe it, lots of great songs, one from each album except octavarium which was their latest. What was great about this one is that they play the entire Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance (Which is 42 mins long) with an orchestra, after that the remaining songs used the orchestra too, including Octavrium (24 mins of epic goodness ) everyone in the band was solid on their parts, great DVD for any fans of the band and would definitely put it as one of the best live dvds of all time. 2 disc too which comes with a history of the band and bonus tracks never seen before on their live work.

[DeathDude]

Well, Ateryu's not even metal to begin with. :P And from what I've heard not even that great at what they do, way overrated band.

[Iowa]

What I don't understand is people calling Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit metal...they aren't even really nu-metal in my opinion, Limp Bizkit is just straight up rap (very good rap, in my opinion) and Linkin Park is alt-rock.

[bruno]

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What I don't understand is people calling Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit metal...they aren't even really nu-metal in my opinion, Limp Bizkit is just straight up rap (very good rap, in my opinion) and Linkin Park is alt-rock.
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The proble is some iluminate, that don´t understand music say all kind of rocks it´s all the same, but they are wrong, and Metal is not rock.... :angry:

[Cloudy]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Iowa @ Sep 1 2006, 01:12 AM) [snapback]252199[/snapback]

What I don't understand is people calling Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit metal...they aren't even really nu-metal in my opinion, Limp Bizkit is just straight up rap (very good rap, in my opinion) and Linkin Park is alt-rock.
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The proble is some iluminate, that don´t understand music say all kind of rocks it´s all the same, but they are wrong, and Metal is not rock.... :angry:
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We could argue for years about this and not come to any conclusions. I can't be bothered arguing about genres any more, it's too much of a subjective thing. Everyone has their own ideas.

I don't know how you could possibly argue that metal is not rock though... that one baffles me.

[DeathDude]

Oh there is a ton of bands that are called metal and the media loves to say it too, which makes it worse. Yeah Linkin park would prob actually call them more nu-metal, but not close to metal, Korn same is nu-metal, System of a down nu-metal, guns and roses hard rock not metal, AC/DC/ hard rock not metal, Tool progressive rock, or even hard rock, close to metal but not quite. So many more could list, cause yeah lot of places assume well it's a heavy sound must be metal.

[Iowa]

Yeah...metal often falls victim to shameless mislabeling...

[DeathDude]

Indeed MTV and VH1 do that very often. It's a shame cause really they assume so much from certain bands, when really they should check around and see more often than not the so called bands they label are metal some are not.

But it's been good to see the last year that metal is hitting it's resurrangence thanks to in part to strong well known bands, which is causing other more obsecure bands to be checked out, granted for a lot of the cases, it's now happening like 10 or even more years after they started but least it's happening.

[Shunk Eat Enemy]

Well, Ateryu's not even metal to begin with. tongue.gif And from what I've heard not even that great at what they do, way overrated band.[/b]

You couldn't have said it any better.

Oh there is a ton of bands that are called metal and the media loves to say it too, which makes it worse. Yeah Linkin park would prob actually call them more nu-metal, but not close to metal, Korn same is nu-metal, System of a down nu-metal, guns and roses hard rock not metal, AC/DC/ hard rock not metal, Tool progressive rock, or even hard rock, close to metal but not quite. So many more could list, cause yeah lot of places assume well it's a heavy sound must be metal.[/b]

But lots of people who listen to metal would also listen to some of those listed there, so i guess thats why the media boxes them in with metal.

ooh BTW theres a new Mushroomhead cd coming out :w00t:
sadly i don't think J Mann is with the band anymore.

[DeathDude]

Indeed the main thing is what do the media outlets consider metal honestly, seems from what I see anything that has a really heavy sound. They sometimes get it right, but sometimes with bands like Ateryu, Linkin Park, Korn etc... they are way off the mark. Really should do some better research as it's the way songs are structured, chord progression and such that determines whether a band is metal or not, but till that happens they will continue to do so and really metal never was meant to be mainstream anyway, if you look back to when it was Black Sabbath, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest etc... grew from the underground, the fact that some bands now like Maiden or Priest get exposure today just shows there is an interest to show those bands for the hard work they have done for all the years they were performing.