I must admit i've slipped into Airsoft pretty badly now, and REALY enjoy some good old painfull paintball with friends...

Anyone else?

What Equipment do you have/going to get? Any Custom builds?

I've considered it..got some recomendations on where to get some quality gear?

AirSoft or paintball?

Sorry Paintball never tried Airsoft either :)

Paintball... well, not much experience there other then the equipment we rent when we play. We always use semi-automatics. Manual (the one where you have to preform a movement or something to load a new ball) is not fun, and Full auto.. well, it's not that fun either, since it gets realy expencive, realy fast..

IMHO, a paintball-marker should fire as fast as you can pull the trigger.. good enough for "fun-playing" with friends.. If you are playing more seriously, full auto is the only way to go.

There are many different models for different purposes, but generaly, the longer the barrel, them more accurate you get.

Got any good Paintball Combat ranges near you, I haven't found any in my corner of the world yet

4 in my town, and it's a small town.. only about 130k ppl live here.

Many companies have it as "teambuilding" activities here.

Btw; Here is my Glock 27 and my Colt Carbine 15.

Now what is REALY fun stuff :guns: and :rifle:

I have always had trouble with those since they look like real guns. And some people do things when they feel threatened by someone with something that looks exactly like a glock.

ive went painballing twice they dont allow guns that look like real ones but the allow those damn ammo hog full automatics in i hate those

whats airsoft?

I play paintball....never tried airsoft....sorry.
i have all brass eagle stuff considering i just started playin paintball.
but i have one of there nicer guns. its a semi auto. its called STRIKER.
just incase you wanted to know. :D

I've played paintball, but (sorry for being stupid) what's airsoft?

Airsoft guns shot little pellets.

some people like airsoft more because the guns look more realistic.
but when playin airsoft you have to be honest. considering it doesnt leave a mark on your clothes so you cant tell if you/ someone else were shot.

paintball is cool , airsoft I don't even think we have it up here

can't tell if your shot airshot shoots little bean bags right well just listen for some1 screaming out in agony :bleh: my first paintball experince was horrid my freind kain was on the other team and got me out guess where he shot in the how you *ahem* groin :cry:

I took 3 in the head, 5 in torso and 2 in the arms at once before i "woke up" and heard ppl screaming i was hit... adrenaline is fun... :twisted:

i had an experience like that only there was this giant floating pink cow... :eeeeeh:
oh wait, that was a dream i had! :blink:
anywho! have you ever taken 8 paintballs at full velocity from 3 feet away??
OUCH!
(i have, for those of you who didnt get the message)

I play airsoft.
Ofcourse it´s fun, but it´s also really expensive.

I like airsoft better because, one the guns aren't as big and heavy, and you don't need nearly as much safety equipment, more mobility :ok: And there are paintball pellets for Airsoft, believe it or not. And ya, Airsoft is expensive..... :not_ok: And Airsoft dun hurt as much....tho I'm curious to get one of them shotguns.... :D I rember paintball, I was rushing, got nailed straight in the forehead, and fell back into the mud...ya..... :tomato:

Movie from a CQB-game... have fun!

I have 2 paintball fields in my small 45K person town. One is All Forest with 2 forts on each team for CTF. The other one is a desert combat range in the open. We don't have airsoft up here either.

Too bad..

Well, i'm going to sell my CAR15 now, and have placed an order for 2 x Uzi and will most likely go for the SPAS12 or M 3 Super 90 (short) as "backup", and use it only for CQB-skirmishes. Dual Uzi has en extreamly high RoF combined @ 800 rpm each.. so, 1600 rpm is not something you just wanna get infront of... downside is that they are 2.5 kg each, and the spare clips (12 in total) will add to that.. along with the SG on the back.. and the shells for them... + the west to carry it all in... should come to a nice 12-15 kg of geers... damn...

Well.. got the SG now :)
But starting to have second thoughts regarding the UZI's due to team dress/weapon-code...

Anyway, Enjoy!

http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/m870_1.jpg
http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/m870_2.jpg

thats a bloody nice model mate, shame about the team dress code.

once i get my financial situation sorted ill most likely be saving towards a BAR replica, fav gun of all time. Whats the shell capacity on that SG ? or is it single shell reload ?

Reason #5674 to NOT annoy Titan: He has one helluva paintball gun!

I've played paintball 3 times. One time some guy managed to get 4 or 5 of us becuase we were.. uhm.. hiding..
He just came oer the top of our hill and got us all.
I swear someone must have got him though..

Then there was the time we were hiding in a bunker and they blindfired in. The marshal stopped the game, and checked who was hit. This gave the enemy an oppurtune moment to aim at us all... One the game was started again, they mashed us up...

Never tried either.. was always too young when my family went. Theres a paintball arena that opened last year about 10 minute walk away from me. Might go someday. Whats the legality of carrying your paintball equipment around in the street?

Here in Sweden, i can carry it around openly, as long as i don't AIM any anyone, as it's called as a BB-gun basicly.
Had a friend strapping his AK47 to a backpack, and walking through the city to the station.
A Police-officer approaced him, and asked what it was, and he explained, and the officer asked if it was fun to use... so no problems there.

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Whats the shell capacity on that SG ? or is it single shell reload ?[/quote]
You load 1-10 rounds in each shell, and it fires them all in each shot. So Aim, Fire, Pump, Aim, Fire... and so on.. Holds 5 shells internaly, and ejects them when pumping. There are ofc. semi-auto SG's also, but i wanted a manual.. more "feeling" to it.

Will take a pic someday with my current gear....

nice loadout i must say.
only bloke i know with a shotgun for airsoftt runs around with a little saw-off replica, duel triggers for each barre, its nice ,,,but useless

Considering the recent troubles in London I doubt it would be very wise for me to walk around with an AK strapped to my back :ph34r:.

Magic: Well.. there IS a reason why it's not allowed for minors to own/use one... common sence is the keyword...

TaloN: Well, thisone is a bit more... "Advanced" if you can call it that.

Specs:

Length - 925mm
Barrel Length - 330mm
Weight -2550g
Muzzle Velocity - 312fps

It's a bit light, but hey.. once it's converted to CO2, it will pack 4 KG's instead..

Magic: Well.. there IS a reason why it's not allowed for minors to own/use one... common sence is the keyword...

TaloN: Well, thisone is a bit more... "Advanced" if you can call it that.

Specs:

Length - 925mm
Barrel Length - 330mm
Weight -2550g
Muzzle Velocity - 312fps

It's a bit light, but hey.. once it's converted to CO2, it will pack 4 KG's instead.. [/b][/quote]
Im not your average moronic teenager I assure you. I am much more intellignet than most of my school :whistle: I do suffer from a superiority complex as you can probably tell. :ranting:

Uhm, Wade, this is about rl, if I'm not mistaken.

About airsoft. Well, I can't legally do airsoft where I live, but *cough* there are always ways to play ;)

Ker-delete!
Useless newbie spammers.

A friend wanted to try my gear out...
Couldn't resist to take a pic... and here it is.. (large file...)
http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/PC120072.JPG

Pantball WHATA RUSH!!!! I love pantball I have a tippmann custom 98 (Its a gun)

Time for a new gear-update...

http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/Collection1.jpg

+2 more that i don't have at home right now.. will get them on the next update..

Possibly selling the sweet shotgun though, as the role has been replaced by the use of M203's, and i might get a CAW-revolver with 6 nades.. should clear a room pretty fast ;)

Is this Paintball thing free? If so, where do I get it from?

.:EDIT:.
I see this isn't a PC game. Delete this post if you want. It's quite useless.

i like your Steyr Aug very much :drool:
is that pistol a glock?

It's a Glock 27 (compact, full metal). I will however sell it/swap it today for an USP.

nice arsenal :D

talk about topic bump... :whistle:

Got the G36c home today also... will take a pic later and update this post... perhaps..

(bumping Danny's warn-meter a little ; )

...the black shotgun is awesome...
...my M4 feels puny, LOL.

make sure you get a close up :D i love glock :wub:

Nope.. thisone is a H&K G36k (c-series)

http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/Collection2.jpg

this makes me wanna clean my ww2 knife :w00t: ..you look so dangerous

*drools*
:w00t:

I adore Airsoft. ^^ I'm actually in the process of ordering a KSC MK23 SOCOM at the moment. I was also going to buy the seperate Toyko Marui LAM unit and then upgrade it to having a real flashlight and laser, but sadly it's out of stock everywhere I look. :not_ok:

Aside from that I have a Mauser Broomhandle (which I still think is the sexiest pistol ever made :wub: I plan to eventually get a full metal and the rifle variant), CZ75, a Desert Eagle, and a 6" revolver (which is my second baby next to my Mauser). I'm more of a sidearm kind of girl, but eventually I want to snag a P90.

I'm curious. How can a pistol be sexy? :blink:

He has a strange fetish.
And just to make it clear, those are just paintball guns right?

If so, have you ever shot a real weapon, just out of curiosity, Titan?
I've tried several kinds of weapons.

The best tho' was when I got to go to the range on Veteran's Day and they had a collection of recreated WW2 weapons, they were exactly like the original models.

You haven't touched a real gun until you've fired a Thompson or MP40.

The Kar98 was LOUD!

Yepps... tried the "RS" (Real Steal) once.. Shotgun, different handguns (liked magnum the best) and even a twinbarreld 20mm AA-gun that my grandfather siezed from the germans in WW2.

BUT.. Those are real guns, who will cause great injury or death if fired on another person, and that is sort of theire purpose.

Now some japaneese fellows turned this into a sport, making replicas, that fire solid 6 (or 8)mm plastic (or simulare material) bullets that can be used for either just fun engagments or used in MilSim-games (google for MilSim if you want to know more).

To me this is a fun hobby and a good sport where the social part is more then 50% of the experience.

I enjoy playing paintball with the authentic looking weapons.

Makes it seem more like a genuine "War" experience.
It's a great hobby, and some people may not like it, but they have their own tastes. :D

I would probably be more into it, if it weren't so darn expensive...

Well.. that depends on what you compare with..
The only investments you make is for the basic gears (Gun, Mask/glasses and a clip or two) and then it's only the ammo that costs.
All in all, a beginners kit wouldn't have to cost more then 300€.

That's what I'm talking about not to mention bullet costs, it's pretty expensive by our standard (read: average paycheck 450€/month)...

well... stuff 20 € away every month if you can..
You could always start with something cheaper, but you get what you pay for, so don't expect preformance or durability for less then 180€ for the gun itself..

The bullets.. common.. those are cheap.. i get 6.000 for 20€. So unless you decide to go full auto for 10 minutes, you will have them atleast a month if you play every other weekend for a few hours.. (That's what single-fire is good for :-)

Haha, going full auto for 10 minutes...thatd be pretty neat to see LOL, you'd be like a frickin turret, not smart, but, lmao.

I can keep it up for 2,6 mins w/o reload with the round-mag on the picture :)
16 RPM @ 115 m/s = 21 Joule of energy every second :)
Does that sound much? It's not.. Some have snipers who deliver up to 10 Joules / shot (projectile energy calculated at 0.5m from the muzzle)

In case you haven't noticed, on the forum index this thread looks "Anyone Into Airsoft or Pain..." :P

well, LOLz :D

bwhahahhahah you are right :roflol:

I can keep it up for 2,6 mins w/o reload with the round-mag on the picture :)
16 RPM @ 115 m/s = 21 Joule of energy every second :)
Does that sound much? It's not.. Some have snipers who deliver up to 10 Joules / shot (projectile energy calculated at 0.5m from the muzzle) [/b][/quote]
I really want to get a sniper, probly not too usefull, but still fun...
I also really wanna make a custom nerf gun...for fun LOL, one guy made a frickin eletric semi auto sniper...

Umm... Half of the snipers out there are semi-auto. It's just the bolt-action once that requires any type of labour ;)

hmmm is there any dragunov in airsoft?

Umm... Half of the snipers out there are semi-auto. It's just the bolt-action once that requires any type of labour ;) [/b][/quote]
No I mean, he made a custom nerf auto sniper, from scratch.

Nice :)
Well, if you just know how the gears work, and what makes it pull and release, it's not that hard to build a simple electric air-powerd semi/auto gun, if you just can get the right parts. The gearing shouldn't be that hard to figure out with simple trial and error :)

One Dragunov comming right up :)

:)
...oooooh niceeeee, I want that :w00t:

There... sold off some junk and have stripped my collection down a little.

http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/Collection3.jpg

Next step will be to get a way to have the mp7 in a holster, preferbly on the leg, and get some 3-point slings for the other two.

One issue is the ammount of clips.... i simply have too many, and still no magdump :/

From Top to bottom...
G36c
Steyr AUG
MP7A1
And some Equipment.
EDIT - Just saw the names were all mentioned earlier...damn gotta read the whole thread before you post...thought I'd look smart...

I'm into Airsoft. There's this area in northern Berlin called the "Grenzstreifen", were the wall once was (well not the wall, but the guarded border), and now it's all empty. Plus, I have some friends up there, one of whom I share an M4A1 with (The rifle is his, the accessoires like extra mags, reddot etc. is mine), and we get together from time to time and have some matches. In fact, last week, we had a night-time match with ten people. It was simply awesome.

Nice... Ever heard of the big outdoor-game called Berget in sweden?
last year there was some 900 players, and alof of them was finnish, danish, dutch, polish ppl.. a few germans also, but not that many unfortunally.

Anyway, got a silencer for the MP7.. it's LOOOOVLEY now.. makes this little tick-tick sound only.

Nope. I only play occasionally with friends, so I don't know that much about it.
But once we're at new weapons, a friend of mine just got an M6 for sniping. We
use it in a little game we invented, called "Shotgun". It's a bit like CTF, but I'll
explain later on. It's been influenced quite a bit by ego-shooters like CoD and
Halo - we even have a certain "respawn" rule.

How many magazine bags do you have on that vest?
And were you thinking of a thigh holster for the MP7?

I can only take 6 of the AUG-clips as it is now unfortunally, but that's usualy enough.

And yes, i'm going to get a holster for the MP7 as soon as i find a decent one.
Or atleast a chest-sling.

I don't know...MP7 in a chest sling? Naaaah...and plus, you're probably pretty loaded up with
6 AUG magazines on your vest...I'd get a thigh holster.
I use a magazine belt for skirmishes, and I'm just making a bandolier with a friend of mine. It's very handy, and has room for 8 M4-Magazines. Hopefully, once that thing's done, I won't need that belt any more.
I'm also planning on getting a small AEG handgun. Just for backup. I suppose you use the MP7 for that purpose...?

Yepps.

I have the AUG for medium/long-range. The g36 for support/supressing fire as it has the massive 2500-round clip, and the MP7 for close situations.

The thing is; With the g36: If i take off the silencer (done in 1 sec) and use a standard clip, and fold the stock up, it becomes a REALY nice CQB-gun, with a massive RoF. Eats through the clip in 2 secs.. dono if that's good realy, but you get ALOT of plastic up in the air in a verry short time.

The AUG and the g36 has both been modified a little and are actualy slightly over what we normaly allow in CQB.

Anyway, as long as the MP7 is standard-equipt internaly, i always have that to fall back on if i get too close to open up with the others.

I used to have a M870 BV, a G27 and a CAR15 but all besides the CAR15 wasn't fitting the playstyle i have.

The M870 is slightly over 1 m long, and taking tight corners with a huge shotgun isn't always a good option. The fact that it ejected the shells was cool, but not practical, as you needed a special bag on it for catching them, and the shells could easily get stuck halfway if you pumped too fast, and thereby jam it fully.
But, 10 BB's / shot gave a good chanse of hitting. Might get a M1100 sometime as i love the shotgun-concept and the M1100 is semi-auto, and can be modyfied to fully automatic with easy means. Hehe, 6 shells / sec @ 7 bb's / shell = massive firepower.
The G27 has too small a clip for it to be usefull, but damn i loved that gun. I've tried quite a few, but NONE have had a harder kick then that.
The CAR15 was wonderfull. Relf-retracting stock is perfect for CQB, as you could, if you learnt how to, make the stock compact into half size with a sertain shouldermove, and make it retract with the same move. Perfect for taking corners.

Anyway, the AUG has a good punsh and is a perfect semi-sniper as the front-grip acts as a solo-pod (w000t. new word) and if you miss the first shot, you just pull the trigger more, and it goes to fullauto. no roundingabout with a selector :)
The g36 has a verry high RoF (around 20 +-2/sec) and is great for support and cover advancing teammembers.
Usualy i place myself at the end of a hall, and keep it clean until it's secured. If i need to advance, i replace the support-clip with a normal and is alot more mobile.
Due to the tuning up done to it, it uses too much ammo, so with normal clips your almost FORCED to go single-fire, but thanks to the RoF you can never pull the trigger fast enough for it to miss out. Perfect for clearing rooms fast and efectivly.. 1 clip / room.

The MP7... Have you ever tried an MP5 k/PDW you know the type.
As it's a Machine Pistol, it has a moderat RoF, and the 50-round clip is enough for cover a retreat/reload if you'r pinned down.

Next investments:
Holter for the MP7
a RD-sight for the Aug
Launcher/m203 for the g36 and a few nades OR a CAW-revolver for the same purposes.. the problem is the price. Just the revolver is 400 US$ :(

EDIT: 410 US$
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?i...ade%20Launchers

I never understood how those grenade launchers work.

I have to agree on the AUG - monopod - sniper - thing. I have been practising with my friend's M6 a lot. Sniping is fun :w00t: !
Have you ever tried the short version of the Maruzen shotgun? The one with the front handle?

My ideal combat set would be my M4 with an M203 grenade launcher, If I can get my hand on one, then maybe a very short shotgun, probably Franchi Spas-12, and a small AEG Handgun. What do you think?

EDIT - About the AEG - isn't the magazine longer than the handle? Meaning you could only snipe someone on a lower level than you are because you have to tilt the AUG forward.

the 203 is basicly a huge SG-shell that blasts up to 170 bbs when fired.
alternativly it can fire a single large projectile, but it would be made of foam :/

The only SPAS12 avalible (my my knolige) is one by TM, and is a springer. I think you would be better off with a Maruzen M870 CS.

About the AUG, well, preferebly you would be on the same level as the target bing an obsitle, so i've never had the shoot from the ground and up, but i could imagen that would give you a slight problem, yes.

Okay, I changed my plans a little. I am going to sell the M4 to get an AUG myself. I was kinda pending between the G36c and the AUG. Can you recommend the AUG? I was planning on using it in the middle-field-area of the team, as a kind of semi-sniper-supporter. Which means I'd run along with 2 or 3 others one of whom would provide a huge base of fire, the other one running for the flag, and me sniping and covering.
Any other suggestions for my gear based on the description?
Oh, I also need a backup weapon which I would use for sneaking around the flanks (we like to play in an area full of sand and trees). The weapon would have to be short, as precise as possible, and best have a good RoF.

I played airsoft with my friends a few days ago. It was a hell of a lot of fun and a lot of us came home with some great welts! I have to reccomend this to anyone who wants to shoot their friends legally.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grinder @ May 27 2006, 08:16 PM) [snapback]232597[/snapback]</div>AUG is a nice and well balanced gun, and many do use it as semi-snipers.
If you want to use it as a semi-sniper, you should concider getting a smal scope for it.

As for secondary.. well.. if you'r looking for just a backup, get a Glock 18c or a Glock 26c.
They are cheap, and have a high RoF.
I use my MP7 for secondary though, but it's a bit "bulky" for most ppls taste.
However.. an UZI might be something for you, as they come with some form of retractable stock also.

Seriously though. Have you conciderd a M16? They have a much longer barrel then your M4.
the AUG is a pretty special gun, and the M4/16-series are more common along with cheaper spare/upgrade-parts.
Just a thought.

btw, had my g36 chrono'd this weekend... not good :(
Turned out it was WAY over the limits for indoor-use.
The Aug was also slightly over the 106-limit.

I will most definitely have my eye open for a Glock. The MP7 would indeed be to bulky for me, the same goes for the UZI, I guess.
As for the M16, well, I think it's just too long. I always liked the short barrel of the M4 and M15, even though the precision would
definitely be increased at this length. Besides, I can't really make out any good AEG M16s. At least not below .5 J, which is my
absolute maximum due to friends and teammates not wanting to go home without the welts Alex mentioned.

What happened to your G36? I have no idea what chrono'd means. Tell me more.

Oh, and I'll post the results of my search / evtl. purchase here.

EDIT:
Well, no AEG Glocks found. I am considering finding a new shop. As for the UZI, I reconsidered it when I found some suitable ones.
But I'd rather get the big one with the folding stock than the mini UZI, which plain looks cheap. But for now, I'll stick to the AUG and
keep looking for a pistol.

Glock 18c (automatic)

Glock 26c (automatic)

M11 Ingram SMG

MP5k SMG

UZI SMG

UZI AEG

As for you M4, what brand is it?

Anyway Chrono'd = Used a Chronograph to see the speed of the projectile.

The thing with the g36 is that it has quite a few upgrades; Prec. barrel, Stronger spring, New cylinder, New nozzle, New gears and it runs on a higher voltage... all that makes quite an increase in preformace and accuracy.

Well my M4 is a TM Boys.
The thing with the links you gave is that I need one below .5 J. Other than that, I do like the Glock. What's the RoF?

The RoF on the glocks?
Decent i would say.. nothing beats the Uzi though.. it's over 25rps.

Well, ALL the links i posted are for "heavier" weapons then 0.5 unfortunally.

You could however look for the possibility of getting a Prec. Barrel for it though. Gain ALOT in accuracy.

Well if I do the thing with the barrel, I would better gain experience in that area.
The reason I said the .5 thing was because you posted those links, btw.
As for the RoF, anything from 5rps up is perfectly fine.

EDIT :
Did a little more searching and asking around. I found a Glock G18c for about 60€, plus batteries and stuff.
I am not really willing to spend more than 70€ for a backup weapon, so I will think about that again.
The other thing is I asked around about that AUG I wanted to buy. Turns out the RoF is about 13Rps. Sounds
good, doesn't it? This is turning out to be the perfect weapon for me.

Honestly.. don't by the ELECTRIC G18c.. it's pure crap. Gas is the way to do it.

Hmm. Might as well buy some crappy aeg. For a sidearm, imho it's just not worth the money. Gas is over .5J, right? Not that this power isn't tempting, but still, .5J is our limit. Well first things first, and that would be the AUG.

EDIT: Nah, a cheap AEG is not the right way to go. Currently I'm thinking about buying a Semi Auto Deagle first and use the M4 while I still have it. The AUG can wait.
EDIT #2: Meh, I want an AUG.....scr*w it, I might as well wait and save some more before I make up my mind. This could easily lead to hasty decisions that I'll regret later on.

UPDATE:
Okay, I went through my shop with a friend yesterday and ordered him a springer shotgun (The M3000 with the pistol handle), plus some mags. we both chipped in for a 20.000 BB box that we got on a special offer for 30€ (!), and last but not least, I ordered another clip for the M4. So this weekend, we are having another match, at which I am planning on trying out some of my friend's weapons. These include: The M203 on my friend's M16; A silenced G36c, and another friend's Mini UZI. I would have loved to get my hands on the M1911 another friend of mine ordered, but it will ship by monday, so I'll have to do that later.
I will post my reports (And maybe even some pictures) in this topic after the weekend.

P.S.: sorry for the double post.

30€ for 20k bbs... sounds like you got your hands on some cheap trash.
What brand is it? If you take a bb between your fingers, is it perfectly round? Can you see where its joined?

Be carefull. It might just clogg the barrel. TM uses 6.12 barrels as standard though, so the chanse is remote.

In my g36 i have a 6.03 barrel and i would never dare to try anything that cheap.

The nades for the 203, are they standard 40mm, or some special kind?

Had a 7 hour engagement today....

Funny enough, i got away pretty easy. Counting 6 visible hits only :)
3 of them had a nice grouping though. Was caught reloading from the side by a P90 going fullauto from 10m

Ohwell... "returned the favor" the round ofter that ;)

ENJOY!

http://www.abandonia.com/~titan/Arm_1.jpg

Actually, I was pretty surprised about the quality. Bare in mind, it's .12g BBs. My trusty M4 doesn't work .2g and upwards that well, but from what I hear about the AUG, it's actually quite precise with .2g . I talked to some of my Airsoft friends yesterday about the possibility of switching to Bioval BBs. In the end, we voted against it because of the price.

Nice welts, by the way! I almost never get any serious ones. Well, there was one time though, when I had rolled up my trousers, and caught about 20 in the legs, 6 of which hit the uncovered area. OUCH!

EDIT:
No idea about the M203, I didn't go. I was sick. I am meeting my friend later the week, though, I will ask him then.

Ummm.. that MIGHT be because we'r using more then double the power in our AEG's.
Those where made throu a jacket and t-shirt (atleast the one at the top).

Bioval is actualy a decent BB, as it decomposes in a year or so and is a good argument if you play on someone elses property. The quality is pretty good to, and i've heard of just a few that had problems with clogging. Personaly i use Blaster (from ASG) for indoor use and Bioval for outdoor.

One thing though: If you use (or anyone at all uses) a net-mask (with a steel net for eye-cover) NEVER.. and i mean N E V E R use Excel BBs as they have a nasty habbit of break on impact into many small peices and penetrates the net.
Blaster is pure singel-molded plastic that will only split into 2 or 3 peices on impact, and i've never had a clogg with them, even though my barrel is a 6.03 mm diameter (Standard TM is 6.12mm) so that is kind of a good review.

Well, at .5 Joule, I don't think the BBs would splinter, and I rarely get headshots. Which reminds me to someday get my own mask.
As for Excel BBs, my friend uses them with his M6. he's the only one I know who does so. I think he uses .25g, but I'm not sure.
I asked my friend about his M203 today, and he says it's standard 40mm.

Question: Do you do Airsoft as a real sport? How often do you play?

Well... more or less.
We have a team and we do team vs. team games that has different variations to the rounds, and we keep a score.... I do it as often as i get time for it...sometimes 3 times / week, other weeks i don't have the time at all.

I can tell you, a 7 hr CQB is ALOT more exhausting then a 7 hr outdoor event.
My role is usualy either keeping supressing fire to clear a flank or as entry-team, depending on the equipment.

The Aug is perfect for mid-range support and mid-range hit'n'run.
The g36 with the drum is something you would place one a sertain place (overlooking a corridor perhaps?) and hold it, while with a normal clip, w/o the silencer and the stock folded, a perfect entry gun, as it's short and have a fenominal RoF and will clean a room in a second.

About the excel: Doesn't realy matter, as the risk that it MIGHT happen is enough; so unless everyone uses paintball masks that seals all the way, the BB's should be banned.
If i have time tomorrow, I'll rig a test and photo the ressult.

I will ask my M6 friend about the maximum range on that thing. Usually he's far away, but I once got a chest shot when he was approx. 20 metres away. It hurt as f***. After that, we told him to either keep a minimum distance of 20 metres or to go with another weapon. Now he uses the M6 for sniper training (he wants an AUG, too) and the occasional game. Fortunately, he has a full metal AK that he can use, too.

I once got 5 paintballs straight into the side of my leg just above my right knee at close range once when the shoddy rented gun my brother's mate had went off. To be honest, I think he probably pulled the trigger once, but I doubt he meant to shoot me 5 times from that range. I almost won the best bruise contest, but there was a dude who'd been peppered in the back by my whole team as he lay on the floor. Anyways, my leg hurt like hell later, and the bruise was all purple and split open. Is that way off topic?

Not at all.

Sounds OnTopic to me...

Almost beats the bruises my girlfrind got... it's been 2 years, and it's still visible on the leg :)

How did that happen?
I doubt I'll ever go beyond .5 J. But maybe I will misteriously discover a hidden sniper talent in me.

Double Post, sorry. Topic buuuuuuump.

Had another match yesterday. One of my friends has a pretty huge garden with a little hut in the back, and his parents weren't home, so we made a pretty cool 5on5 engagement and later a 6on4 "Shotgun" match. Did I explain that game? It's pretty fun. Basically CTF, but there's the shotgun rule: At first, everyone crawls towards the target, a stationary team defending it's flag with F/A weapons. When the pointman makes contact, he shouts out "Shotgun!" and everybody has to get up and storm. Pretty fun.
Anyway, I tried out my friend's full metal AK47 when he was using his M6, and I pretty much gave them hell. But full metal might be a biiit too heavy for me. But it's realistic.

k.... my poly-carbon-phiber g36 packs a good solid 3,2 kg w/o clip. With a fully loaded C-drum it is a good bit over 4 kg's.

Metal doesn't realy mean heavier, as the plastics have to be thicker to have the same strenght.

For me metal doesn't mean weight, but quality. I think the AK47 has 2,9Kg with clip (which is also full-metal). The only thing that annoyed me is that I'm used to swinging up my light (1,2 max.) M4 when I step out of a bush or something. I had to get used to the weight of the AK47 first. The rate of fire is not as good as my M4, but I guess that's why I'm always the one giving suppressing/covering fire.

What volt are the guns running on?
Normaly for the "standard"-typ is 8,4v, but i have 9,6 in my g36, some use 10,8 and some uses 12,0v

If you don't know, you can just count the cells in the battery. each cell (provided is a normal NiCa battery and not a LiJo) gives 1,2 v and depending on the size, a sertain mAh.

Higher volts makes the motor spin faster and gives a real boost in RoF. Downside is; if you run it on normal internals (mainly the gearbox), you would end up stripping everything and get a new set of skateboard wheels.

Well, my M4 runs off 6 AA batteries, the AK47 runs on 8,4V, I think. I will talk to my friend about upgrading it. Maybe a nice 9,6Volt, and he can use it for suppressing fire once I give up that position when I make the switch to the AUG.

Question about paintball: What is the average muzzle energy on those balls? I heard it was like 7 joule or something, but I can't believe that.

easy math:

The Energy = (Mass in KG * Velocity * velocity)/2
So: a paintball with the mass of 3,2 grams = 0,0032 Kg
The ball is moving @ say.. 70 m/s

(0,0032 * 70 * 70)/2 = 7,84 Joule

As faar as i've been able to figure out a "normal" paintball-round is about 2,7-3,2 grams
and the maximum muzzle-velocity most places allow is 300 fps (round about 91.something m/s)

(0,0032 * 91 * 91) / 2 = 13,25 Joule.

Depending on national laws, it's most likely too much energy.

ESPECIALLY for semi/full auto.

Too much energy? 13,25 Joule? Nooooo, that's okay :ph34r: . So where is it legal? And does the fact that the balls burst on impact make it less painful?

Well, in Sweden the law permits 3 Joule for Semi/Auto and 10 Joule for Bolt (manual charged).

The "problem with paintball is the accuracy over distances, as the ball just moves too slow, and if you see the shooter, you can avoid the hit. The problem is the weight of the ball, and limits the speed, to not pack too much energy.

AirSoft doesn't realy have the same problem.
a 0.2g BB can travel at 316.23 m/s (1037.55 fps) to pack 10 Joul just at the muzzle.
Try dodge something comming at you with 1138 km/hr... i can't ;)

About the ball bursting.. well, SOME energy is lost om impact with hurling paint all over the place and cracking the "shell" open, but most is transfered on to you. Airsoft generaly have more or less the same; most energy is transfered, but a minority is used for the impulse that makes the ball bounce off you a few meters.
A major difference though is the area of impact. The paintball is much larger, and destributes the force over a "larger" area when it impacts and deforms, and ultimatly break, with most of it at the center of the impacts, and at the edges as the hard shell with most structual streanght hits.
An Airsoft pellet will generaly not deform at all, and affects a verry small area, no more then the 6 mm diameter, as the skin deforms under the impacting pellet, thereby giving it a much more "stinging" sencation then the paintballs hard "knock" you can experience.

The whorst i've been exposed to was a hit from a sniper, using a 0.43 g pellet, fired at 170'ish m/s, and estimated speed of impact around 140 m/s on me, 30 meters away.

Yet another difference with Airsoft and Paintball, is Airsofts "Hopup"-system, that transfered a portion of the energy into giving the pellet a verry quick "backspin" and thereby lowering the muzzle-speed alot, while not the muzzle-energy, alowing it to travel MUCH farther but utilizing aerodynamics in the same way a plane does, with wind passing faster on one side then the other and thereby creating a lift, that literaly sucks the pellet upwards, neutralizing the gravity.
If you have Hopup on your rifle, try setting it to absolute maximum, and fire at normal level, neither pointing it up or down.
The shot will be slow, but after around 10 meters or so, it will begin a steep climb and go straight up.
Or if you don't want to ruin the setting, just tilt the gun 90* and fire. The pellet will go straight "up" relative to the tilt, eg, Holding the gun in your right hand, tilting it to the magazine points to your right, the pellet will go straight for a few meters and then take off to the left with a great speed.. might be usefull for shooting around corners/trees if you can time the distance right ;)

About YOUR laws, we actualy had a debate TODAY on a swedish forum regarding german laws, and it seems you are restricted to 0,5 Joule as per law (if i understood things right) IF the gun had automatic, and wasn't permanently renderd to single/bolt/semi.
A user had his gun seized by customs for breaking german firearm-laws, packing a LEATHAL 0.9 Joule, and it was sent off to destruction.
U.K. has a 1 Joule policy as faar as i've seen, but besides those two, the rest of europe seems to more or less the same rules, with a 10 Joule maximum for Spring/Gas-propelled weapons with a mechanicle release.

Well, as far as I know it, the thing with .5 Joule is a misinformation that has been spread by a lot of local newspapers when they made reports about the infamous "kiddies" - little children with .08 Joule Airsofts (legal for 3 yrs. and up) shooting at old grandmothers and stuff just for the hell of it.
Everything from .08 to .5 Joule is legal for people under 15. This includes AEGs (pretty much all of which have HopUp). Then there's the S-AEGs, which AFAIK stands for SEMI Automatic Electric Gun, so they'd have to be SEMI, and they commonly have around 1 Joule of muzzle energy. There's also no Gas-propelled guns und 1 Joule, and the strongest one I've seen would be, I think, a Dragunov with 3.something Joule.

I tried to calculate the energy of that sniper hit of yours - is 4.2 Joule correct?

Sounds about right, yes.. and it's legal, as it's a bolt-action, where you are required to manualy load a new pellet into the chaimber from the clip by using the manouver/cocking handle.
The specific one i was hit by, was a gas-powerd, but there are also verry verry string spring-rifles.

Well semi is definitely not bolt-action. Although pretty much all the high-powered-high-precision rifles I know are bolt-action.
But there is also those semi-sniper rifles like the AUG or the G3.

It has arrived... atleast the first part of the shipment... Will take more pics once i get it all.



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3,4kg is a hell of a lot for that size. How much stuff will you be carrying around in one game?

Once it's loaded it packs 4 - 4.5 kg's....

I'll try to get a 1-point-sling to carry it around with, OR mount my MP7 under it, and use it as a primary.

How would you mount the MP7 under it?

a 20 mm-rail-to-20 mm-rail adapter simply, and perhaps some tape if needed.
The MP7 has a solid metal rail runnin along its entire lenght, so it should handle the load. The CAW is solid steel, so i doubt that will be an issue.

So you would basically mount the MP7 under the entire barrel of the CAW? I'd like to see it when it's done :sneaky:

I do play both, but in IL, there are huge laws. 1. Airsoft may not be imported, 2. They must be clear and have a red stripe at th end of the barrel for at least 10mm back. dosnt stop me from havin my trusty Taurus PT92 semi though :) I play PB as well, I have a JT excellerator 5.0 with Auto-Hopper, sweet gun, 16 in"" barrel too :)

I don't know that much about paintball, but 16" is pretty good, right? What is Auto-Hopper?

It's one of those electical-feed hoppers that forces the balls down into the chaimber.

16" barrel sounds like it could have a decent accuracy though.

Well, I do visit specopspaintball.com from time to time, they have a rather good Tactics manual. Also, they make a gun called the "Longbow Sniper". It looks pretty kewl.

I have news for you! I just recently ordered a Tokyo Marui Mk23 SOCOM spring pistol. It should arrive on monday or tuesday, if I'm calculating correctly. When it gets here, I'll be sure to post some box-pr0n :max:

Triple Post, yay! Well, here is my brand-spanking-new Tokyo Marui Mk23 SOCOM pistol. It's the .44 Joule spring version, and I really like it. Pulling back the sled (?) is a bit difficult, but I'm already getting used to it. I got 2 extra mags for it and a 6000 bottle of ASG's Q-Bullets (0.20g BBs). Here's some pictures:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6812/cimg3496tk6.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6396/cimg3498ny5.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6293/cimg3499rg2.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9105/cimg3500vw8.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3095/cimg3502gt2.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6567/cimg3503lz9.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1061/cimg3506cn1.jpg

Hope you like it!

Sorry to ruin your excitement, but no silencer?
Ok.. on a springer it doesn't do much, but it looks damn much better with the SOCOM-silencer..
If it has the standard 14mm Anti-clockwise in the barrel, it won't be any problems getting one after.

EDIT: nm.. i saw that it had. I have one on the mp7, and beside from the actualy silencing, it's damn good looking.

btw, Going to sell the g36 now and get another AUG A2 and trim it to 130-140 m/s for some outdoor usage

Yes, no silencer. I'm planning on getting one for it, once I find the silencer from the gas version somewhere. The only Marui Silencer I found is a 16MM Marui Pro Silencer which costs twice as much as the gun itself.

EDIT - Found a 14mm Classic Army silencer, any recommendations?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Henning @ Sep 30 2006, 03:10 PM) [snapback]258357[/snapback]</div>Seems like it will fit.. just chk so that it's anti-clockwise and anti-clockwise..

Seems so. This will definitely be my next purchase. You are right, the SOCOM with silencer does look pwnsome.

Got some good news today.
My new team-leader have offerd to build a custom pistol from scratch as a sort of "wellcome to the crew"

Will be an intresting and unique peice of work.

Will be full metal (no carbon-fiber grip, but FULL metal) with high-flow parts.
Also my MP7 will be redone internaly.

Going to sell the g36 (my new teamleaders old gun) and get another.. dono what yet, but it leans towards another AUG or possibly a P90.

He also offerd to mod my Milkor MGL into fireing shotgun-shells and manufacture a custom drum for it to hold 12 shells instead of the 6 x 40mm shells it takes now... intresting indead.
Ofcourse making the peice fully automatic in the process, effectivly turning it into a "jackhammer".
12 round fully automatic shotgun... hmmm.. dono.. the 6 round semi automatic granades is also REALY nice.

Usualy i stick it into a room and fires one. If they aren't dead or not giving up, i do a "run-by" and hammers in 3 more in different directions. If they are still alive i have 2 more. Haven't happend so faar that i've gotten to use the last to.. usualy ppl know what they are facing, and if they can't pull back, theu usualy give up after the first round, and defenetly after the second as they know there is more where that came from.

I've only been paintballing three times but I enjoyed it immensely and since I have a very active imagination, I like running around shooting people and yelling battlefield type stuff, as if I'm some sort of elite soldier. I'm definitely going to start going paintballing again pretty often once I start earning a decent wage, and I hope one day to have enough to purchase a piece of land to turn into a paintball wargame field.

chainsoar, you just described my one and only goal in life in that last sentence. With airsoft, of course. :max:

Titan, good to hear that, and yes, we will need a picture of your updated gear when it's done. Damn, I wish there was any airsoft arenas around here. There's one paintball field, which is like 70km away, and from what I hear, it's not even good.

EDIT - I also ordered a case for my socom, for transport and stuff (yeah, I know it's sturdy, but I'm a freak ;) ). Will post pictures when it gets here (around weekend).

70 KM? :blink:

Next game I'll attend to with my new crew will require a 450 km trip to the north...
The teams "range" is 700 km when accepting challanges or just attending games.

About the case; Good idea. I have 2 trunks i just throw everything down in ;)

chainsoar: Have you tried "real" AirSoft guns? Not the plastic-wallmart-30m/s(100fps) but the "real" deal?
Fully automatic carbines with a 50 m (150 ft) flat bb-path?
The markers i've tried for PB has an effective range of 20 or so meters before you have to concider a balistic trajectory for the ball.
Few things beat the MG's that spews 30 bb's / second at 130 m/s or more.
It's a solid white line of death from the muzzle.
Or a regulare Assult Rifle with a RD-scope and a Beta C-mag. Keeping fully auto-cover for 3 minutes straight with spot on accuracy.
Or even a 200m/s sniper where you hit targets 80-100 m away spot on within a 10 cm area. shot after shot (indoor that is, where wind doesn't affect).
No annoing game-reffere that will say game on, just because your opponent whiped himself clean after the hit before the reff could inspect.
Instead players are HONEST, take theire hit and leave... If they don't they will soon have 20 or so ppl emptying a full clip on them and banishing you from all future games.

That's what AS is all about.

Not to talk about the gas-operated peices. A realy hard and solig blowback that kicks your hand...
My CAW has a decent about of blowback. It dumps the eqivelent of an entire 12 gram CO2 cartrige in one blast. Now that's some nice recoil for a toy. The same would be enough to drive 40 PB-balls from the marker.. mine uses it to power a single shot, accelerating +200 bbs to 100 m/s.

I love how the TM Chrome Desert Eagle .50AE Hard Kick looks. Question: What's the difference between CO2 and gas in terms of accuracy/energy or whatever?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Henning @ Oct 3 2006, 12:18 AM) [snapback]258994[/snapback]</div>"gas" is the term for a multitude of gases that all originates from different Propane/Butane mixtures.
Depending on the "expanding power" of the liquid when released into 1 atmosphere envoirement, they generate different speeds. Some names are Green-gas (most common) and HFC.
These gasses hold in liquid form around 80 - 120 PSI (Pounds per Square Inch).
CO2 (L) on the other hand hold 600-800 PSI depending on purity.

Quick math sais that CO2 are capable of propelling the bb much faster as it expands more rapidly also from liquid to gas.

Many guns however don't use the liquid other then generating gas at the top of the clip where the "exhaust" is located, and thus increasing the numbers of rounds / refil, but decreasing the power. A normal "gas-gun" fill fire at a speed of 80 - 110 m/s, with blowback-guns generaly lower muzzle velocity and higher consumption / shot.

If you compare it to my granades that run on massive ammounts of LIQUID CO2, that propells 204 shots to 100 m/s in one shot..... That's some power not to play around with, but handle with caution.

Well, I looked at some shops, most had about 3 times as much gas guns as they had CO2-powered ones. I am familiar with the terms green gas and red gas - red gas is stronger, right? ;)
Lower power is no problem for me, really. As long it's not a sniper rifle or DMR (my favourite type of gun), I couldn't care less about power.

Nice guns grinder I was looking at the pictures.

Well.. it seems the g36 is off and a new is inbound..

http://www.fireh.se/john/aug/Aug1.jpg

This is a TM AUG;
PSG1 pres. barrel @ 6.03 mm
Phantom-kit (makes it virtualy compleatly silent)
Marui bipod
a 3-9x50mm scope
600mAh 12v battery
Full Tune Up kit M150 @ 160'ish m/s muzzlevelocity.

Seems like i got myself a decent sniper with the fullauto-option if first shot misses..

tick... damn.. miss... tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tick.... got him :)

Whoah, Titan - is that the same AUG you had all along? I don't quite recognize it :max:
Jokes aside, that thing looks way cool. Is that silencer/RIS thing the Phantom Kit?

You know, I've had my 23 for more than a week now and I already want a SPAS12.
Out of curiousity, since I dream of building a semi-sniper rifle in the future (when I'm 18 :max:), have you seen the M4 S-System by TM? It would sure look good with a proper silencer and a PS44 or scope. Any recommendations on semi-snipers that are heavily upgradeable? I mean besides the AUG, I'm not a copycat ;)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Henning @ Oct 4 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]259332[/snapback]</div>Nope.. that's a NEW AUG i'm getting..
The entire barrel is silenced basicly. Also heavy internal padding and silencing.

Well, as semi-sniper i would got for M14 rather if you will PRIMARILY be a sniper.
If you want to have sniper OPTION, a fulllenght M16 is the choise.

But... for pure sniper, a good started would be a Tanaka M700 gas-sniper. It's Bolt-action but resonably fast to reload.

Aye, the M14 is the standard-issue DMR, after all. I thought about the S-System though because earlier you said something about hiding a precision barrel of your MP7 in a silencer. Which would after all give an M4 the same barrel length like the M16 without any silencers attached, right?
Anyway, one of my main concerns would be modifying it. The M14 doesn't have many attachment options, has it? I'd need rails for grip, bipod, scope, and a silencer option.
As for semi-snipering, I would be primarily sniping, but I'd need the option of at least semi-auto. If I was to get a bolt-action sniper rifle, I'd need an automatic Handgun. Glock AEP, MP7, MP5k maybe.....

Okay, cancel the M14, the position is taken on my "team". A friend of mine made some upgrades on his M6, including something with the body, a precision barrel (but I think more than 6.03), and a new scope. Plus, he got the TM Glock 18 AEP. So, the "primary sniper" position is taken.
Looks like I'm tending to a heavily modded m4/m16. But first, I have to save some money, this is getting expensive as hell.
Oooooh, but what about that SPAS? :w00t:

Gaaah, it's eating me up inside :angry:

Well... the TM SPAS12 and M3 Super 90 are exelent close/mid-range guns, as they have a steady bb-path aswell as the 3 shot-function gives it a bit more chanse of hitting something. They are both upgradable, but well..... 0.5.. not realy an option though.

Btw, the New AUG is looking realy good. It's on the team mechanics table right now, and he seems to be verry excited about it.. seems like i did a bargen. Bouthg it for 320€ but new it would be about 1400€. So if i where to strip it, and sell the parts, i would get more then the 320€.

btw.. the new one packs 2,4 J :whistling:
About 155 m/s with a 0,20 BB...... :tomato:

Well, the problem is, I'll have to stick with 0.5 for 2 more years. And the SPAS is just wishful thinking, the silencer comes first.
I remember seeing the Phantom AUG on GnG for like 1400$. Seems like a pretty good bargain.

Someday, you'll have to explain how changing a barrel works.

On AUG it's the easiest thing in the world.. Just turn the hopup-house 1/4 anti-clockwise and it clicks loose, and the barrel is attacked to the hopup-house, so just pull it out.

And how is it on the other guns?

More or like the same, but requires more disassembly to access the barrel/hupup :/

Good news - I have drawn another soul into the world of airsoft. A friend of mine just ordered some basic gear. TM spring gun plus mags and ammo. Nothing big, but it'll give him a good taste.

All i need to say...
http://www.airsoftevents.se/gallery/main.p...g2_itemId=48348

That guy was pwned... done from 2 m.. caused some collateral when i took out an teammate in the blast, but we made the objective none the less... Counted 53 visible hits on his arm alone. No picture of the torso :(

BANZAI! :titan:

That guy was pwned indeed. How can you sleep at night? :sneaky:
Seriously though, that's gotta hurt. Isn't it like 165 BBs at like 1 Joule? That's like just too much for me :D

L O L...

Got an email today as a reply to a question.
It's from a company called MadBull. They've manufactured the 'nades i'm using, and in the last mail, i attached the link to the gallery... I didn't expect much of a responce, as they appear to be a serious company and they guy i've had the exchange with had been keeping a more or less "official" tone.... up to now that is;

And i qoute:

What can you say? Even THEY love it ;)
I pwn!

btw, it's either 108 x 6 or 204 x 1 at the time in the GL.. they are both doing +100 m/s. Around 380 km/h ;)
Matrix THAT!

You do indeed pwn quite a bit. But I don't understand what that was about :huh:

LOL, I just randomly browse, and I find yet another reason not to piss off titan... hah!

Paintball
Shot my uncle in his bald spot once (hair)

Ummm.. did something nasty today... I modified one of the nades. Basicly it forces it to dump all the gas onto a single barrel....
A rough estimate said it to do about 250-300 m/s (number of soda-cans it penetrated fully) with a 0.30 ball... LOL.. that's over 1.000 km/hr..

Will be fun to see the real ressult next time i have access to a crono.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Danny252 @ Dec 9 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]271023[/snapback]</div> Get off his back already. Sheesh. ^_^

Have a TINY poor-quality video of me disscharging a drum..

Mailed the camera-guy to get a better one, but until then; here we go:

I just saw the full documentary. DAMN! You're the man.

There... i FINALY got the new barrel for the Phantom AUG... a Promethius PSG1 6.04 barrel..
Damn.. them bullets just keeps on going.. just extended the effective range with another 30 m *L*

http://terminator.se/Images/Aug1.jpg

I have also attached a stock to the RL.. might not look good, but it's realy good to have then taking aim on mid/close-range...

http://terminator.se/Images/P2110083.JPG

Update: 10 more shells incomming... Will post a pic of the "family" once i get 'em ;)

arent these airsoft things expensive?

They sure are, just check google and you can find out LOL!

EDIT:

http://www.007airsoft.com/products/htm/aeg-tm.htm

$470 CND for an MP5...

Around 200-250 € for a "stock" gun is normal.
Anything below that is usualy too bad quality to use for actual fighting.

So faar i've spend over 2300€ on the revolver alone.

It's like any hobby.. it can get just as expencive as you want yourself.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Titan @ Jul 20 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]300516[/snapback]</div>revolver like colt? pic plz :drool:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Titan @ May 15 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]290318[/snapback]</div>Got a ( TM ) Colt 1911A1 as one of my sidearm-options, so i do have a few pistols, but no "hand"-revolver other then the MGL-revolver.

ah nvm=/ i thought one of the "hand" revolvers. i always loved those weapons

Today i left the MGL with the teams wizzard, and he'll remove the "hump" by the stock and give it a nice paintjob... will get it back on saturday.. will try and take a family-photo.

The downside with owning a peice like that, is that whenever we go team vs. team, i usualy get put as "entry and sweap" just due to the massive firepower and chock from the disscharge.
I usualy carry 1 or 2 "blank" shells as chockers when we enter, as ppl tend to get stunned when they get hit with 2 x 500 lum lights and a 125 dB sound...


Last game we where with some locals at an old abandoned factory that we've never played with earlier.... I don't know why; But when i open my bag(s) and pull it up, and start loading it, i get ALOT of nervous looks in my general direction. When i head out during the "gearing up"-phase and disscharge an empty shell (this is to see if i have enough presure in the system to run the shells), the normal greeting when i return is; WTF?!

:tease:

Gotta love it......

ha, ha...

but the air is compressed by some gas or is it done manually like in some air rifle?

well too bad this didn't come out when i was younger and too bad this isn't cheaper. cause it sounds like fun.

ok not to sound dumb, but how does the shell thing work?

Paintball is the true man's sport. :P

Airsoft war games are too open for cheaters. "omg that never hit me noob, where r da proofz?"

No denying a clear hit in paintball. SPLAT

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chainsoar @ Jul 23 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]300963[/snapback]</div>that probably depends on a people you play with=) LARPs for example, are terrible with kids too i have heard, when they make up
but i would prefer paintball too

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Jul 23 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]300932[/snapback]</div>The "air" is 830 PSI CO2 that's stored in an internal chaimber that's released all at once when the hammer hits the trigger, and thereby expelling the gas via 12 barrels where the 108 bb's are located.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nirvrex @ Jul 23 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]300947[/snapback]</div>http://www.madbullairsoft.com/images...ts/XM108HP.jpg

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chainsoar @ Jul 23 2007, 05:50 PM) [snapback]300963[/snapback]</div>Well... that's why normaly there's an 18 yr limit, to get more mature players, and the sport is "self cleaning" in that aspect. A cheating player only does that once, and after that, invitations to games are scarce to say the least.
Smal and crappy clip of me in action with it can be found Here.

Fair enough. I still prefer paintball. Airsoft guns are fun for shooting at targets, but when it comes to shooting people, I'd have to go with the paint splatter everytime.

I prefere Full Automatic carbines all the way... a paintball-gun just looks ugla imho.

See if you can guess if I like to play airsoft...

I have a glock18, a WA, a M16A4, a MP5, and I've actually forgotten the name of my last gun...

Haven't played in over a year... Babies and all...

Oh well!

Ah, nice collection there.
The M16 and MP5, what brands are they? What's inside?

never tried paintball actually seem like fun though. I do however own 3 real guns that pack some punch, only it would be silly to use it in a paintball match considering noone i shoot will come out of the match alive. and that is kinda... not very nice :blink:

There... FINALY got around to take some new pictures...
Got a new coat and som more modifications to the stock, along with an ACOG reddot.

Here we go!

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