HELP: Two games are driving me nuts!!!
 

Hi guys.
I really hope you can help me with these two.

Game 1: You are a little yellow submarine, living at the buttom of the sea.
You are really small, so you earn money by collecting coins, with a magnet or cigaretes with a grapplinghock, or even pearls with a suction device.
You then have to drag it to some small undervater cities, where you have to dock. There are many of these cities and i think there are three factions.
So you are doing missions for each of the factions.
You start out with a small electrick beam, which you can kill fishs and pirate submarines.
Later in the game you can equip missiles and bigger beams to your submarine.

Game 2: Now this is hard....:wacko: I dont remember much from the game.
Its a 2d strategy game, that you see from the site. I cant remember how many factions you can choose between, but they are all alien. I think 3-5.
The game itself is really wierd looking and you dont get much help in how the resource system works, or even how you attack.
I think you have some specific point you can build your buildings, (also wierd looking and not much info).
The resource system, i think, was something with blue globes then you can invest...
I dont remember much more, other than its a really old game.
Before 2000 i am sure.. :doh:

Hope you can help..

Aqumupa:cry:

#1 is Archimedean Dynasty I think.
#2 ... might be WarWind, perhaps? Not 100% sure on that though.

No, #1 would be Sub Culture.

Spot on RRS :) Thx a bunch :)

Nope.. nr. 2 isnt warwind.. thx though..

When i said 2d, i ment its more platform like.. You see the game from the side.

Oh, like in Diggers?

Wasnt diggers :no:
.. Thx though
But ye.. You see the game from the side.
I know its not alot info i can give about the game. :doh:

Only two I could find that use a side view in the first place:
Diggles: http://www.mobygames.com/game/window...myth-of-fenris
Caveland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biI-nNHRSHk

Thx for the suggestions TFH.
But neither of them it was. :(
I dont know if this helps.. But I have tried to draw the game as i remember it. :palm:
Bare with me, its in paint :wacko:

http://tinypic.com/r/2mh8rcg/6

Is it possibly Master of Orion?