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Kosta 11-03-2004 10:38 AM

SimCity 2000
 
Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and download (if available)

LotharGR 04-04-2004 11:23 PM

i never understood the real goal of the simcity series of games... allright you build a city, watch grow etc... but what is your goal ? :P The game never ends if i am right :P

Titan 05-04-2004 02:33 AM

It ends allright.... It ends when you start hitting the "Monster" and "fire" option.. muhahaha.. DIE!!!!!

Omuletzu 12-04-2004 04:17 PM

hmmm... now that sounds REALLY stupid; i mean you build your city only so you can, in the end, destroy it. :|

Titan 13-04-2004 04:39 AM

You have to play it to enjoy ruening 3 hrs of work ing 3 mins with massive destruction *L*

LotharGR 21-04-2004 09:50 PM

Its like Disaster-movies... You have to see a very mediocre movie for 1-2 hours, only to watch the meteor or anything else falling to earth in the last minutes :P

Danny252 22-04-2004 07:00 PM

IMO SC4 was a real let-down with the disater aspect. The fire burns out in seconds!

Stroggy 22-04-2004 07:37 PM

I believe the trick to get a fire running in SC4 is to continue setting buildings on fire (not just click... but keep clicking and dragging across a neighbourhood)

Danny252 23-04-2004 07:58 AM

Half the time they just go 'puff' or burn out in secs even then dragging! But powerstations..

Havell 09-06-2004 04:20 PM

I think the oblect of SC2000 is just to build a really big city with lots of Launch Arcos (If you build enough they will actually launch). Plus, they burn really well. :twisted:

JJ 23-06-2004 01:40 PM

SimCity 2000
 
1993? God I feel old. I remember lusting for this while playing SimCity.

I just wanted to mention, for those that might not know, SimCopter is a cool game that is pretty easy to get. With it you can actually FLY (and walk) through your own SimCity2000 cities (I never get them past the village stage).

Happy flying

JJ

eric10051981 24-06-2004 09:04 AM

it's fun to watch your city grow from absolute nothing into a big living city.. watching the countryside houses, farms, big company industries, factories, apartments rising everywhere, skyscrapers, etc etc etc.. (i think i made myself clear..) :D

BUT, it's much much more fun watch that city crumbles by the fires, earthquakes, and UFOs?? whew.. just don't forget to save first.. or else.. :twisted:

Danny252 24-06-2004 07:07 PM

and it dosent change in number 4..
meteors, flying robots and volcanos with lava..
MWUHAHAHHAHAHA DIE YOU ANNOYING SIMS TAKE THE WRATH OF A GAS POWER PLANT

blade 25-06-2004 12:10 AM

This is a fascinating game. I was first introduced to it when I took small business class in Russia (it's free, kind of like.. a school workshop). A company donated some that workshop. It was my firist time I've ever worked on a computer. At first game confused the >hot place< out of me, mostly because it was all in English.. lol (stupid idiots didn't get Russian version.. or didn't bother to mod it if there's no Russia version). Anyways, after few weeks of playing it I was pretty good. We used to have little tournaments between schools and stuff... it's a good game.

I own a copy of SimCity 3000 and like to play it occasionaly... I still didn't buy the newest one.. gotta do it one of these days...


~Blade


EDIT: Can an admin please delete the above 2 posts; I totally have no idea how that happened... sorry... :cry:

Tom Henrik 25-06-2004 05:18 AM

You can delete them, yourself :)

Just click on the delete button in the top right corner in your message.

(Or you could just let them be... Noone cares if you screw up and places the same post several times. Unless you do it in an attempt to Spam! :wink: )

eric10051981 25-06-2004 06:27 AM

IMO, simcity 4 sucks.. i prefer simcity 2000 or 3000. as for simcity 1, it's fun to play.. too bad the empty space are so limited and no neighbours around.. but i liked it.. i remember spending hours and hours just figuring how to get the rank of metropolitan.. or is it metropolis??

Quote:

Noone cares if you screw up and places the same post several times. Unless you do it in an attempt to Spam! *:wink:
well, things happened.. just try to be careful next time.. :)

Dream 26-06-2004 07:45 AM

Simcity 2000 is good, but since I have 3000 I don't play 2000, not because it would be worster just that it gets old after a while.

BrokenAngel 07-07-2004 04:30 PM

im a big fan of sim city 2000...i play it for hours and hours looking at every detail of my precious precious city :lol: . so happy looking at the little cars so bz in the hi-way when suddenly a plane crashes and burns 75% of my city to the ground :blink: !!!! sigh....accidents do happen tsk tsk tsk!! :cry:

unclefester 05-09-2004 12:48 PM

I think the worst part in simcity 2000 was thesub. If you did not do it ne way through but one by one the pipes won't match. Is there a way i can get rid of a tornado?

Stroggy 05-09-2004 01:43 PM

I liked sim city 4
but it was damned hard compared to sim city 3000

Sim City 2000 Network Edition was one of the first games I ever played (this was one of the games included in a package of aging games like Return to Zork, Broken Sword, Master of orion 2, jagged Alliance)
I had to mess around with the computer (trick the game into thinking I had an internet connection) so I could play it in singleplayer.
ofcoarse the network edition depended on you making contracts with other players so its was much more difficult than the singleplayer game.

Red Diablo 06-09-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrokenAngel@Jul 7 2004, 04:30 PM
so happy looking at the little cars so bz in the hi-way when suddenly a plane crashes and burns 75% of my city to the ground :shock: !!!! sigh....
Hehe, I know the feeling ! You've put in so much work and organized everything perfectly, and in a couple of seconds you'll have to start all over...

If only I knew what "skadeglädje" is in english...?

Seabass 15-09-2004 01:47 AM

[quote] If only I knew what "skadeglädje" is in english...?

I think that roughly it means leave the poor goat alone or we'll notfiy the authorties!

Guest 02-10-2004 04:06 AM

I remember when this game was released. I did not (nor had I ever) own a computer though I was able to use my cousins old 286 now and then. It had the original SimCity on it, in all it's EGA glory. Then I was in a store one day and saw SimCity 2000 on the shelf, and I remember thinking how awesome it would be to own it but I might as well have imagined having a new Ferrari. Even if I could afford such an advanced, expensive game I could never afford the super computer it would take to run it (back then a 486 was an expensive super computer to me). Now I'm sitting here on a Pentium 4 loaded with games that make this look absolutely prehistoric. How times change... :D

Guest 18-10-2004 12:08 AM

:help: When I download that game from your site and extract it , then what i do install on anything else wont work! am I doing something wrong or is it the game.
thanks

THEEVILOFMEN 22-10-2004 12:33 PM

[size=14] Hey, how do I get people to come live in my city? what am I doing wrong? I have power, roads, comerical, industrial, and residentuial zones... what do I do?

gregor 22-10-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THEEVILOFMEN@Oct 22 2004, 12:33 PM
[size=14] Hey, how do I get people to come live in my city? what am I doing wrong? I have power, roads, comerical, industrial, and residentuial zones... what do I do?
the best way is build squares with roads about 5x10 big and then fill them with industry, commerce and residential. don't forget to give them power and water supply. then you need police, fire stations and the rest of necessary things. after that you can lower taxes to attract more people.

scorch3000 23-10-2004 09:57 AM

the goal of all simcity games is to build a lot of nuclear stations and watch them go kaboom. :help:

TheVoid 02-11-2004 10:33 PM

You can find all you need right here, chez Gamefaqs:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/game/11616.html


Mr. X 03-11-2004 12:52 PM

SC2000 is a really great game just like playind God
built lots of things and destroy them afterall
maybe thats the reason for all this disasters today
the bible says sth like humans are built like God :Brain:
explains lots heh :angel:

the only problem i have with the game is that it crashes after
saving it. but its not really a problem cause it doesnt take long to
restart it

i mean the goal of this game is to get 500.000 or 1.000.000 people
in your town but i was never abled to do so cause in the
end their was no more room left and my city was a dirty hole
I try to make some more hills this time and not a completly flat
terrain like in former times

the best thing was to get one skyscraper with 18 squares :w00t:
SC4 doesnt have this feature anymore :tomato:
but they are both nice games :bye:

Mr.X 07-11-2004 07:53 PM

I think i was wrong.
Sim City 4 got this feature two, but in a different way. :whistle:
nevertheless SC4 makes it really hard to make money
and you need at last 512 RAM to play it with fun
thats all i wanted to say :bye: :bye:

Sempf 07-11-2004 08:44 PM

I liked the old Sim City more
because it has Godzilla instead of a supid alien crap monster
and if you had a coast he normally came out of the water
and smashed half of your city (if you had enabled disasters)
:Titan: :Titan: :Titan: :Titan: :Titan: :Titan: :Titan: :Titan: :Titan:

kleine777 13-01-2005 04:59 AM

help! how do i build a power plant?

Eagle of Fire 13-01-2005 05:02 AM

Click on the lightning icon and hold it for a second or two, a second menu should appear. You can actually do that with other icons too.

goblins 13-01-2005 08:18 AM

another point certain powerplants occour at specific dates if you start at 1900 only gas, coal and hydroelectric (youll need a waterfall to do hydroelectric)

After 2050 all 9 powerplant types are available even fusion.

That said i prefer to add the hydroelectrics as i need it - it means more regular updates but early in the game its cheaper and they dotn need replacing every 50 years

Start off by building lots of industry and residential with good road access. Up to 30,000 residents industrial and residential are most important (inner city as dense and outer areas as light) then once you hit 30,000 pop you should concentrate more on commercial zoning.

Dont place subways until traffic starts hitting 50+ cars on areas of road and then place them only in busy areas - bus depots are better for smaller outer areas.

Make sure you have water supply and pipes that go to areas - be careful as you will need to work the pipes around subway tunnels as they dont cross each other as they do in Sim City 3000

Ensure you get at least 1 early road connection to a neibouring city as it raises immigration and industry.

Expand rapidly with industrial and residential early on but dont start introducing police stations etc until it becomes a big need - they can drain taxes do the basic you can always go back once the coffers are overflowing and redesign areas to accomodate them later on.

John Watts 21-01-2005 09:52 PM

*You Run A City
*You Get To Be A Mayor
*You Continue Till The Map is Full
*Then Blow It Up!

Havell 21-01-2005 09:55 PM

It blows itself up if you get far enough :sneaky:

Jimrock 31-01-2005 01:25 PM

I like sim city. i wanna build a ghetto with liquor stores and gang members... and black people yha.. :ok:

well this is jimrock bbh party crew in san diego sayingw as up. I like eye of the beholder too.... geocities.com/alwaysdaygo

MadMax_FMM 31-01-2005 01:33 PM

Yes... SimCity 2000... great game, although i've to admit that there's no real goal (ok... destroy the city at the end etc. :D)... but it was fun nevertheless. ;)

pfxaq 31-01-2005 07:01 PM

Ok, not sure how to make my own post or w/e, so I'm just going to click a reply on someone elses........I need help! .......I downloaded the game but it wont work!
theres 3 install things : One with a white page and blue border that just says "INSTALL", a second one which says INSTALL...MXS File 12KB, then the third is INSTALL ....shortcut to MX-DOS Program 1KB , i clicked them all , the first one comes up goes to a black screen then flashes to this pop up "C:\DOCUME`1\Adam\Desktop\SimCity\INSTALL.EXE .........Invalid Startup directory, please check your pif file. Choose 'close' to terminate the application." the second one when i click it says windows cannot find INSTALL.EXE .....the third is the same as the first except it says .PIF instead of .EXE i have windows XP Professional, and when i downloaded the file i saved , and extracted it all into one folder, if thats of any importance. Hope this is enough information so someone can help me ANY!
-Adam

tarly 01-02-2005 05:41 AM

hey guys. im sure your gonna think im a moron but i just cant seem to do anything right with sc2000. whenever i try to build a city all that eva works is the industrial section. ive zoned areas for commercial and housing, but no one loves my city enough to live there? what am i doing wrong? ive added all there is to add... school police, fire brigade, libraries zoos etc. but they just wont stay!!!!??? ive linked my road to neighbouring towns and im pretty sure ive got power and water although that may be an issue? whadda you think?

ill probly neva check this site again so email me if you think you know what im doing wrong.... its [BUZZZZ]@yahoo.com
taa

from an aussie cityier

lala 18-02-2005 12:08 AM

i think the newspaper needs some recognition it is a work of comic genius !!

i got sc3000 and 4000 as well (and sc1, which i played on atari st before) but i never played them much... i didn't like them as much as 2000 which was my fave!! thinking about it i might give 3000 another go, i didn't really give them much try... i was dissapointed there wasn't as great humour as the newspaper, llama obsession and so on :D

even though the game mightn't have a 'goal', i always just enjoyed the 'process' of building the city... not burning it down at the end... i never did that :D but i couldn't understand why people played with disasters turned off, that takes away half the fun !

Centurion 23-02-2005 05:33 PM

Reading through 5 pages of this thread...
I want to play SC 2000 all over again. :ok:

N17R0 23-02-2005 05:44 PM

hehehe, SC2K, pretty sure I still have that cd laying around somewhere. I used to rock that game, every city I built was a megalopolis.

Brent (The PC Nerd) Mc 03-03-2005 03:58 PM

I've got a Centrino 1.4Ghz max, Intel Extreme Graphics 2 Integrated, 1 gig of ram.

When I open sc2000.exe it corrupts the graphic display then windows recovers from a serious device failure.

Same on anybody elses laptop (we have 200 of them)

Game Phre&#124;&lt; 16-03-2005 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xineoph@Feb 24 2005, 04:57 PM
What vesion is this anyways?

Mac, DOS, Win3.1, Win95?

I wanna know what cheats you can use in this version...or you can tell me here, plz. :)

Ok this is what I have from my records.
But remember Cheaters never prosper! :bleh:


OIVAIZMIR:
This enables the Debug.. It gives you all the new structures and you can get endless amounts of money. It also lets you have new disasters. Enter this code when you open up your city or when you're starting a new one.

CASS:
Each time you do this you will receive $250.
Careful!! If you do this many times in a row, eventually a fire storm will start.

FUND:
When you start a new city, don't do anything until you use this cheat. Enter the word two times and click OK. Now go up to your window menu and go down to the budget window. Click on the Bond payments, then issue another bond from the bond payments. You should have a bond that says .%. Do this and you should have 1 million in the first year then maybe 5 million in the second.

More cheats for Windows '95 version:

buddamus: Nuclear meltdown
gilmartin: Military base
imacheat: 500,000 bucks
joke: Tells you a joke
mrsoleary: Starts a fire
noah: Major flood
priscilla: Debug menu
More cheats for Windows 3.1 version:

buddamus: Lots of money and all the rewards
gilmartin: Military base
gomorrah: Nuclear meltdown
joke: Tells you a joke
moses: Stops flood
noah: Major flood
'damn,' 'heck,' or 'darn' - depending on version, will either make the computer say "Hey! Same to you buddy!" or it will turn all residential areas into churches.

MAC Only:
Type in porntips guzzardo and get half a million dollars. Then after that whenever you type ardo you get another half a mil. It works for Mac only.

Do this before you build anything:

Build a gas plant.
Open Budget, Open Bond Payments.
Issue Bond Twice.
Close Bond Payments, Close Budget.
Bulldoze the gas plant.
Repeat step 2.
Issue Bond w/ the .% interest.
Repeat step 4.
Viola, you are rich!, You'll get $1,500,000 every year.
P.S. Do not repay bonds.

Everything trick (DOS version):

Pause the game and go to the centering tool
Hold Ctrl and press F3
Rotate counterclockwise (the arrow that points left)
Click on the resize button in the lower-right hand corner
Click on the status window (the window with the weather and price of selected item)
Click on the population window button (the one with a picture of people)
Click anywhere inside the city
Click on the disaster menu and drag the cursor to the line between riots and no disasters. release the mouse button
This will get you $500,000, all technologies, and all awards
Magic Eraser:

Make a backup copy of your city in case you mess up.
Click on the water/tree icon.
Select trees
Hold down the shift key and the left mouse button.
Slowly drag the mouse cursor over the tiles you want to erase while continuing to hold down the shift key and depressing the mouse button. You will see your structures "disappear."
Make frequent use of the rotate tool to make sure you only erase the tiles you have selected.
If you release the shift key or mouse button, go back to step 2 and start over.
The population of the area that you erased will stay and you can build on that area to increase the population even more!

The Phantom Water Trick:

Destroy all water plants
Go to an area on the outskirts of the city with no buildings around
Dezone an area 3x3
Place a water pump in the center of the dezoned square
Power the pump without making the power plant
Do not let anything touch the water pump and do not create any more water pumps
You will get 100% water and you will never have to worry about water shortages again

dezinsektor 30-03-2005 02:04 PM

help!

Why does power plant (oil) explodes? I played the game 3 times and whenever citizens demand fire protection, my power plant explodes, and I don't have any money to buy another, so i start again :(
Anybody?

Frostvik 14-04-2005 10:32 AM

The power plant always explodes every 50 years and you have to build a new one. A fire station should also be built at an early stage of the game to prevent random fires.

Lithium 24-04-2005 01:06 PM

I'm not having a problem performance-wise except for no music. I have sound fx and music on Sound Blaster compatible. Oh, and, is there a way I can change the registered user to me? I tried deleting the configuration files and running Install but it tells me that it can't find the Copy directory or something like that... Help would be greatly appreciated!

hessekopp 01-05-2005 11:59 PM

Its a CLASSIC , nothing more nothin less!!!!!

like civilization or Giana Sisters!

i want it :ph34r: i will get it ........... :ph34r: right here , right now.....
you are on abandonia.com. nothing is impossible it seems.


YEAH BABY::::::::::::: :ok: :ok:
this side rocks!

djurre 06-05-2005 11:53 AM

of all those cheats, which are compatible with the version from abondonia ?
i tried some, but none seem to have any effect. with cass as an exception, wich burned my town to the ground.....

Guest 23-05-2005 03:42 AM

The SimCity series isn't generally made for the typical gamer. It's made more for those who want to create. The typical gamer wants to solve the puzzle, beat the bad guy, etc. The Sim series are generally more artistic. It's about the story, not the solution.

A. J. Raffles 23-05-2005 08:36 AM

Oh so that's why I never was any good at SimCity 2000, then. I'm just not an artistic type.;)

Coganthegreat 13-08-2005 03:17 PM

I love that game! I have it for PC and I play it all the time. The playstation verison sucks! Its very slow which makes it boring.

strangelove 14-08-2005 11:45 PM

:D Great game, far better than the sequel. I preferred the graphics in this version and it didn't have those utterly awful 'amusing' advisor pictures or the incredibly irritating scrolling ticker full of jokes that the developers thought were absolutely rib tickling but were incredibly unfunny. Being able to add in landmarks wasn't all it was cracked up to be, for instance they didn't actually do anything, though it was nice to be able to design your own buildings.

This is definitely the best version of the Simcity franchise that I've played, it's lean, fast and utterly addictive. It was also the first PC game I ever saw and made me decide that I needed a pc!

Atreides 26-08-2005 09:26 AM

Ah, SimCity 2000. One of the first and best games I ever played. I was probably about 7. 1997. Y'see? We had a computer a bit behind the times, but this game ran fine, and honestly, I must have played it for hundreds of hours. And then the way that you can fly in your cities in SimCopter, and drive in them in Streets of SimCity, it's brilliant. EA has kinda killed the original Maxis style with these new games, like they killed the Westwood style in the Command & Conquer games. The llamas are classic. Must dig out my CD of SimCity. Haven't played it in years and years. Bought Half-Life 2 recently with the 1998 Half-Life original. Still gives new games a run for their money in terms of actual story and gameplay, if not so much in graphics. Ah, nostalgia and reminiscences. Good stuff.

Guest_Mark 06-10-2005 12:51 PM

Arco's.....

I cannot recall ever seeing an Arco actually launch, but I was told that they do. Can anyone confirm?

Sebatianos 06-10-2005 12:57 PM

Yup, they can! I built a whole city with nothing but Arcos (but only one type can lift off) and at some point they simply flew into space (it took me 8 days altogeter to get that far - the computer was always turned on - 192 hours strait).

trick400 06-10-2005 12:59 PM

What are the conditions to get them to launch?

Thanks

Bobbin Threadbare 06-10-2005 01:20 PM

I've gotten bored of this game. All I like to do is load a default big city and stick the spider monster to kill everyone. Fun.

As for the Acros. Aren't they called Dark Arcos?

Sebatianos 06-10-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trick400@Oct 6 2005, 02:59 PM
What are the conditions to get them to launch?

Thanks

To be hones I don't know. I remember I had the whole city filled with the (only
Arcos and roads between them) - and at one point they simply took off. But it did take a long time. I know I haven't changed anything in the city for le last 6 hours of play (so after the city was full of arcos it took 6 hours to meet the conditions - whatever they were). The manual doesn't say anything either.
But all must be the same (the ones that look like they got a flying saucer on the top - others won't fly).

commanderkeen 07-10-2005 10:30 PM

I always lose in this.Any hints?
My city grows and everyone loves me,But I don't have any money when the power plant gets old so OH NO! No power.Like,I spend it all on the city and then I spend the $400 or so profit per year on expanding.
OOPS
forgot to say,I have the windows version.(in case it matters)

Havell 07-10-2005 10:34 PM

Make sure you have $4000 dollars (or the cost of your power plant) saved up, it only happens once every 50 years. Also, use ordinances intelligently, don't just enact everything, or do everytihng your advisers tells you to do. Just use the graphs to see your city's problems and do things in accordance to them. It also a possibility to leave your city runnig overnight so you get all the money you'll ever need (make sure that you ARE actually making a profit and you have "No Disasters" turned on :P).

RedHeadSebbe 21-10-2005 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by R Havell@Oct 8 2005, 12:34 AM
Make sure you have $4000 dollars (or the cost of your power plant) saved up, it only happens once every 50 years.
I got some luck then......When it sais it needs replacement, it "refreshes" by it self......And I got another 50 years for free :P

Havell 21-10-2005 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by RedHeadSebbe+Oct 21 2005, 10:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RedHeadSebbe @ Oct 21 2005, 10:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-R Havell@Oct 8 2005, 12:34 AM
Make sure you have $4000 dollars (or the cost of your power plant) saved up, it only happens once every 50 years.
I got some luck then......When it sais it needs replacement, it "refreshes" by it self......And I got another 50 years for free :P [/b][/quote]
Check your bank account after this happens, you should find yourself the cost of one power plant poorer :bleh:

wade 486DX266 LAPTOP 10-11-2005 08:18 AM

:bye: Hi i got this game on around 2-3 floppies in 92 i think and they work fine
I ALSO GOT RARE UPGRADE FLOPPIES THAT ARE FOUND IN 1 IN 100.000 COPIES!!!!! i heard threr worth 100 bucks (aussie) :tomato:

Tito 10-11-2005 03:16 PM

What do those upgrades mean? Is it worth looking for them?

wade 486DX266 LAPTOP 14-11-2005 05:41 AM

the upgrade is a floppie where you get all the extras and towns.
like an expansion pack like the sims.
Does any 1's accounts get broken into around here? :tai:

Eva02Soul 05-12-2005 12:45 PM

Simcity 2000 was probably my favourite, although I haven't played number 4 yet. It seemed to have something more which 3000 just couldn't match

Calabite 11-12-2005 05:43 AM

SimCity 4 lost a lot of character in its modernisation. 3000 is good and I really can't choose between it and 2000, I still play both.

A good tip for 2000 is to build a lousy city in a good grid. This gets you high cash and population and makes it easy to upgrade quickly. If you build police stations and hospitals, etc, into the city as you go along but set the funding to nil people will still move in to your buildings as long as the tax is low. You can raise funding and place beautiful commercial resorts and your city will be godlike. Then tax goes sky high and all the ordinances get set.

I've tried perfectionist cities which start, and stay utopias, but these never get off the ground as quickly.

Hmm... I got off the point there I think. Oh yeah, Sim2+3 fantastic! Sim4 not so good, but very cleverly done.

Mike

Bp103 11-12-2005 10:15 PM

sim city 2000 My favorit sim ever. I Filled the map it took 3 MONTHS!!!!!!!! Its grate if you have nothing to do for a long time. (Relly easy to kill time on)

Joschka 14-12-2005 05:39 AM

Hello. n00b here.
I just got this, and I was wondering if it was possible to download a manual of this game from somewhere? I used to play this all the time when I was a kid, but now I've forgotten how to do the important stuff (ie. Build a powerplant, highways, etc.)

If not, can anyone tell me how to do the forementioned stuff?

Any help would be appreciated

another_guest 14-12-2005 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joschka@Dec 14 2005, 06:39 AM
Hello. n00b here.
I just got this, and I was wondering if it was possible to download a manual of this game from somewhere? I used to play this all the time when I was a kid, but now I've forgotten how to do the important stuff (ie. Build a powerplant, highways, etc.)

If not, can anyone tell me how to do the forementioned stuff?

Any help would be appreciated

It's been ages since I played it, but this is what I remember:
- design plots according to the blue-green-yellow graphs on the left side of the screen: those tell you what type of plots is most wanted/needed at the moment.
- for the road layouts I always started with a straight road with 2 rows of plots on either side of it
- power plant: I seem to remember I started with a coal burning station, cheap but with a decent power output for early in the game. hydro power is a valuable alternative if you've got waterfalls nearby, but you'll need a lot of those to have the same power output. Later on switch to more powerful and less polluting power plants, once you've got the money...
- connect your power plant with the first buildings that pop up (otherwise you'll see red lightning icons flash on those buildings, as an indicator that they are without power)

It always took some time before anyone arrived at my city to live there, so there might be a faster way to attract people, something I overlooked. But at least this should get you started.

By the way, I don't have the game with me right now, but isn't there a help function (like in some other sim games from that era)? You could quickly leaf through that as well.

Guest 15-12-2005 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by another_guest+Dec 14 2005, 09:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (another_guest @ Dec 14 2005, 09:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Joschka@Dec 14 2005, 06:39 AM
Hello. n00b here.
I just got this, and I was wondering if it was possible to download a manual of this game from somewhere? I used to play this all the time when I was a kid, but now I've forgotten how to do the important stuff (ie. Build a powerplant, highways, etc.)

If not, can anyone tell me how to do the forementioned stuff?

Any help would be appreciated

It's been ages since I played it, but this is what I remember:
- design plots according to the blue-green-yellow graphs on the left side of the screen: those tell you what type of plots is most wanted/needed at the moment.
- for the road layouts I always started with a straight road with 2 rows of plots on either side of it
- power plant: I seem to remember I started with a coal burning station, cheap but with a decent power output for early in the game. hydro power is a valuable alternative if you've got waterfalls nearby, but you'll need a lot of those to have the same power output. Later on switch to more powerful and less polluting power plants, once you've got the money...
- connect your power plant with the first buildings that pop up (otherwise you'll see red lightning icons flash on those buildings, as an indicator that they are without power)

It always took some time before anyone arrived at my city to live there, so there might be a faster way to attract people, something I overlooked. But at least this should get you started.

By the way, I don't have the game with me right now, but isn't there a help function (like in some other sim games from that era)? You could quickly leaf through that as well.[/b][/quote]

LOL
I was actually referring how to specifically build the different stuff in the sub categories. I played around with it a bit, and worked out that you have to hold the mouse button on the icon and move off it and a list appers.

Anyway, thanks for the tips. Much appreciated. As for the help option, it's pretty useless, so I was hoping there was a place where you could get game manuals. If I can find this game, surely I can find the manual.....

laiocfar 16-12-2005 07:01 AM

Anyone readed the readme file, there is a real crasy file :w00t:

Snake_Plissken 09-04-2006 01:30 AM


Now that is what I call the masterpiece!!! I saw the game for the first time 10 years ago! And, when I got it again 2 years ago, I realized the richness of SC2000! The laws, the people, the overall complexity... A MUST HAVE!!! Maybe the best game I EVER PLAYED

The Fifth Horseman 24-10-2006 01:46 PM

I'm kind of wondering if anyone else managed to get their city size over 9 million. My own record was 9m 170k, with all the land built up, including artificial resizing of the riverbed and coastline. Took me a while back in 2003 and I dug up my old save just a few days ago.

chainsoar 24-10-2006 02:02 PM

I've been playing this game quite a bit recently, and my city is up to something like the year 2321, and I still can't figure out how to achieve a state of economical and financial harmony. It's so bad, in fact, the treasury is rarely more than about $800.

The Fifth Horseman 24-10-2006 02:24 PM

You have the Ordinances to use - 1% Sales & Income taxes, Legalized Gambling (warning, this ups your crime rate) and Parking Fines.

Also in the Budget screen you can change the tax rates for each type of sector (Residential/Commercial/Industrial), and then there is that window from the tool pane where you can set different tax rates on different types of industries.

Also, if you are severely lacking cash you can take out a bond.

laiocfar 25-10-2006 03:03 AM

The game isnt that hard is you play at easy levels. Or you can change the speed of game, so the few buckets that you hardly earn will become many.

Guest 25-10-2006 03:11 AM

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I've been playing this game quite a bit recently, and my city is up to something like the year 2321, and I still can't figure out how to achieve a state of economical and financial harmony. It's so bad, in fact, the treasury is rarely more than about $800.
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7% taxes accross the board work fine, if you're city's thriving you can go up to 9 or 10% and still have demand sky high.

The simple trick to a thriving city is to pay attention to these ratios

Early on in the game (up to about 60000) 3 parts residential 2 parts industry 1 part commercial

After this gradually switch it to 3 parts residential 2 parts commercial 1 part industry

Use your city hall to see how close you are to achieving this, a little bit more than half residential doesn't hurt either.

Apart from this you should always bear in mind that you need to have at least two zones present in any area to keep the area from dieing. You can get away with having residential and industry on opposite sides of your city as long as you have small strips of commercial alongside or inside your blocks to sustain them.

Having perfect police, fire, education, hospitals, traffic etc isn't essential either, as long as they are 'adequate' your city can still thrive. It costs for example a huge amount of budget to have an 'excellent' police service and it simply isn't worth it until you are building archologies.

Icewolf 25-10-2006 06:54 AM

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Having perfect police, fire, education, hospitals, traffic etc isn't essential either, as long as they are 'adequate' your city can still thrive. It costs for example a huge amount of budget to have an 'excellent' police service and it simply isn't worth it until you are building archologies.[/b]
Uh, this has always been something I tuned my attention to... :unsure:

I try to grow that much, until I can afford one more station and have budget left.

Guest 26-10-2006 02:37 AM

You just have to do the math. It costs $100 a year to support a single police, fire or hospital (schools and colleges are cheaper). If you turn 50 such buildings into 30 you will be making $2000 more. As long as the sims aren't "demanding" more police etc in your newspapers then it won't actually effect zone demands. I've had many a city raking in $12000 a year with skyrocketing demand and my advisor telling me 'crime is out of control.' It is somewhat easier to keep hospitals and fire in the adequate bracket and the sims tend to be less happy if you don't as compared to police.

Guest 02-11-2006 10:00 PM

Just build, it isn't that hard ^^. The only way of me getting satisfied playing the game and to tell that i have finished it was build a city, get alot of money buy those insanly expensive big future buildings and place them on every empty space there is that is the way to get a big population =)

I think you only could fill half of the map with them though, some stupid bug :(

laiocfar 04-11-2006 12:23 AM

the cities with plenty of arcos are ugly.

The Fifth Horseman 07-11-2006 12:08 PM

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I think you only could fill half of the map with them though, some stupid bug[/b]
Nah, merely a limiatation in DOS and early Windows versions of the game.

Patched Windows version has this limit increased by over twice the usual count.

Laiocfar, I'm not a big fan of arcology designs... but I think that SCURK can be used to mod them around a bit. Which reminds me to have a go at it.

Tycoon 20-01-2007 07:41 PM

Did anybody ever get the sound or music working with this game under Dosbox? Never was able to get it going :)

The Fifth Horseman 22-01-2007 01:52 PM

I never had any problems with either.

Cosmonaut_Roger 24-01-2007 11:45 PM

Ah SimCity 2000. One of my all time favorites. I never could get into the newer games, I have no idea why. I play the game in Dosbox, but the sound is a bit sketchy. But I find that its much better than some games. Skipping and jumping sound in Doxbox seems to be inevitable in some games, all I've found to fix it is to try VDMsound or just up the cycles in dosbox until I've found an acceptable number.

grumpysmurf 18-05-2007 01:22 AM

Does anyone know where I can dowload a complete copy of simcity 2000 for free?

The Fifth Horseman 18-05-2007 02:30 PM

This game is still sold.

Therefore we cannot:
1. put it up for download on Abandonia
2. provide you with links to any source of download
3. send you the archive through e-mail or any messenger programs

If you want it... buy it.

laiocfar 23-05-2007 03:39 AM

But we can denvelope our own games.....
so i started to read a book "Advanced Programming of Simulation Games"
a few hours later i picked another "Game´s Programming"
later i changed my guide book again, this time "Manual for Programming"
but it wasnt my type so i changed to "Basics of Programming"
just a few time ago i started to read "Why computers doesnt react to insults, threats or hammer strikes" :D

Japo 23-05-2007 05:03 AM

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Why computers doesnt react to insults, threats or hammer strikes[/b]
Coz you didn't program them to react in the first place. :D

Sorry [/OFFTOPIC]

Icewolf 20-06-2007 09:03 AM

Hey guys!

I was wondering:
What benefits does the game technically give you when you build supply?

Altered growth? Is it a prerequisite for higher population density?

The Fifth Horseman 20-06-2007 12:50 PM

Erm... supply of what, exactly?

Icewolf 20-06-2007 01:43 PM

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Hey guys!

I was wondering:
What benefits does the game technically give you when you build WATER supply?

Altered growth? Is it a prerequisite for higher population density?[/b]
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Erm... supply of what, exactly?[/b]
Sorry, forgot the crucial point... LOL

The Fifth Horseman 20-06-2007 03:02 PM

It affects population density as far as I know.

And, of course, the land value.

Japo 20-06-2007 06:30 PM

Yes I never bothered to play without water supply, even though the manual says it's possible. But it says that you won't get past rural density without water.

laiocfar 21-06-2007 07:20 PM

Who can be so evil to leave ppl without water?

ah... politicians

DigitCruncher 03-07-2007 09:33 PM

I remember this, egad I feel old!!!!

Well, if the abandonia version is anything like mine, SimCity was AWESOME!!! Until... the late game *cue evil scary music*

The late game (duh duh duh duuuuuuuuuuh) was full of bugs. Population would fall for no reason. Milatery bases wouldnt grow. Disasters came in huge numbers, often 20 in a long series. (Leading to lots of "Phew. Half my city was destroyed by that flood. Oh cr** here comes a fire), I actually once spent 2 hours (not at once, I saved it several times) fixing hundreds of disasters, after which my huge city of several million people was reduced to less than 10000, and then I quit.

The second most annoying thing? Monsters.

Monsters in the early game (without the bugs) funtion differently than the late game (duh duh duh duuuuuuuuuuuh). In the early game, they move around and fire thier ray gun. Everywhere the ray gun hits, fire starts. This makes monsters the second most devestating disaster (after hurricanes, that blow up all but 10% of your city). Then, my first look at the bugs in the late game. The monster came, fired its ray gun, and no fire!!! I was like "Hah! Ur alien techonology is useless to my late game skillz" Then the monster disappeared. The disaster wasnt over, and I was confused. Then I saw it. Fires EVERYWHERE! But none were even near the monster. The bug: The monsters ray gun was being fired randomly all over my city!!!

The first most annoying thing? Fire engines and police people (the people who save u from disasters)

Normally, one fire station gives u one fire engin, and one police station gives u one police person (and a milatery base gives u 2 tanks) These are REQUIRED to stop the advancement of floods and fires (not tornados or hurricanes though :(). However, in the late game (duh duh duh duuuuuuuuh) U get a limit of fire engines and police people. The limit? About 5. So u could go from having a disaster relief team (fire, police, and tanks) of around 50~60, to 5 (7 with tanks). Those 5~7 people cant even cope with a normal fire, if u let it expand any longer than 30 seconds with no help. And when the bugged monster comes, u better hope u didnt terraform the river, and use that as a fire break. Otherwise, u need to take to ur city blowing up huge tracts of ur city with ur bulldozer.

Other than the bugs (that actually are huge and devestating), SimCity2000 is a great game. finally, I think u need 364 launch arcos in order for the arcos to lift off (whereupon they give u HUGE amounts of money (around 14~30 million dollars a year) Just remember, if SimCity2000 hasnt changed, NEVER build near the coast (unless u have disasters off), as hurricanes come about once every 30 years, and destroy practically your entire city.

have fun!! (Ive never left a city without water)

Icewolf 04-07-2007 08:46 AM

I know this might sound slack, but I always turn the disasters off. They occur far too often IMO and actually where I live we have a storm or string rain once in a while but nothing else. So I transfer this to the game. ^_^

andy_blah 24-08-2007 07:04 PM

I do that too, untill I have the map toofilled and I cannot build anything anymore >:)
Also I wanted to show you all something that I found on Youtube. It`s a theme from the credits of the game played on a piano, sounds so neat ^_^

Here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=w0yknDAki4M

RettMikhal 12-08-2008 01:43 AM

What the deus! I was playing SC2000 with Dosbox for several days and now when I load my city, it's a blank slate. Strangely, I have my population but the terrain and everything I built is gone. Bullcrap.

I even had the actual CD! Though I couldn't get it to run even in 95 compatability mode and ended up using Dosbox. I thought this was the 95 install Cd but it didn't feel like working. Did they even make a Dos CD or does this thing just hate me?

The Fifth Horseman 12-08-2008 07:11 AM

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Strangely, I have my population but the terrain and everything I built is gone
Are you sure you haven't switched off the building etc in view options? There are a few buttons for that on the bottom of the toolbox.

RettMikhal 12-08-2008 10:17 PM

Nope, even the terrain, hills, trees, bodies of water, they're all gone. Literally the only thing left is a plane circling looking for a runway (I didn't even have an airport), one never-ending tile of fire and some glitchy signs that don't say anything.

I tried to make a new city, and it did the same thing! It seems as soon as I close Dosbox the game forgets my city. Most non-non-heinous.

The Fifth Horseman 13-08-2008 06:23 AM

Sounds like a corrupt copy of the game, then. Find a different one (and try loading those savegames with it)

RettMikhal 15-08-2008 04:30 AM

I fixed it. I installed it via windows (because I thought it was the 95 version) and that lead to the problems. This time I mounted the CD in dosbox and installed. Works like a charm, even has the sound effects sounding mint. It's just not as fun bulldozing or laying wires without the sound effects.

camanay 03-06-2009 11:38 AM

where do i download this game on this site??

Icewolf 03-06-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by camanay (Post 368187)
where do i download this game on this site??

You don't.

It's illegal.

Check our FAQ for more info.

The Fifth Horseman 03-06-2009 12:24 PM

According to our information, it's still sold.
This one is due for a re-evaluation shortly, though.

_r.u.s.s. 03-06-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Icewolf (Post 368192)
It's illegal.

this whole website is illegal :p

gumpy 17-06-2009 06:33 PM

Fun follow up to the orignal Sim City. BTW if your city gets advanced enough, you can send buildings into space (!).

The Fifth Horseman 17-06-2009 09:14 PM

This actually happens automatically - but only if you have 250 or more Launch Arcologies.

CrybKeeper 18-06-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 368193)
According to our information, it's still sold.
This one is due for a re-evaluation shortly, though.

I'll be watching for that Horseman. I have the game. Don't have the box, but have CD cover.

Also, have the Skurk/Urban Renewel kit, where I designed and named an entire building set Household Furnishings. When I loaded my city, the parks were throw rugs and tile, the buildings were couches, chairs, tables, stove, etc.
I also have Streets Of SimCity Racing game. When attached to SC2000. You can race in the same cities you build.

IRNotAmused 23-06-2009 01:22 PM

scurk
 
Quick question???
Is the scurk (for simcity2000) abandonware or do i half to buy it :(
If it is abandonware, where do i find it???
thanks :)

PS: if this has been covered already, sorry for the repeat.

dosraider 23-06-2009 04:01 PM

IRAmused.
 
http://www.abandonia.com/en/faq <<<<<<<< click and read.

WilliamC23 19-09-2009 08:57 AM

How about the scenario expansion pack?

Rymdolov 23-09-2009 12:59 PM

It's ok to laugh, but please answer this question:

How do I build a power plant? I can't figure it out. :embarassed:

Saccade 23-09-2009 01:19 PM

See the yellow icon that has a power-line on it..?

Click and hold the button - there will be a small pop-up menu that will let you choose a power-plant.

You have to click and hold on a lot of icons (like the hospital one for schools and roads for trains and stuff) so it's an essential thing to learn.

I always go for green energy, but I always use the money cheats and "everything is free" cheat.
Cos I'm a big cheater :)

questionaire 24-09-2009 03:53 AM

I got a question:
The game keeps crashing on me in dosbox (afaik the recent version), anyone else have this problem?
Or anyone has an idea why?

Luchsen 24-09-2009 12:24 PM

Any error message?

Rymdolov 24-09-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccade (Post 383596)
See the yellow icon that has a power-line on it..?

Click and hold the button - there will be a small pop-up menu that will let you choose a power-plant.

You have to click and hold on a lot of icons (like the hospital one for schools and roads for trains and stuff) so it's an essential thing to learn.

I always go for green energy, but I always use the money cheats and "everything is free" cheat.
Cos I'm a big cheater :)

Thanks! I didn't try that...

In your honor, I've named my first town Cheatsville. :-)

questionaire 27-09-2009 06:16 AM

yeah I get a whole set of error reports in the dosbox' game window and in fact the whole dosbox freezes.
as soon as I can reproduce it I post it (ironically it didn't happen again since I posted...)

arete 28-09-2009 09:38 AM

Grrr. I can't get past the point where my first power plant explodes :( I just get my city in the black, and I'm making about $200 a month, when pop goes the weasel. And I just don't get waterfall tiles either. Maybe I shouldn't start in the early 1900's? :mhh: I must try figure out a way to get skyscrapers more easily, too. And how to get an airport to work :(

The Fifth Horseman 28-09-2009 10:38 AM

Airports need large areas of space.
As for power plants, if you have enough cash to replace it, the plant will not blow up but the cash will be automatically substracted from your pool.

questionaire 29-09-2009 03:01 AM

so I was (finally) able to reproduce the error I run into from time to time:
dos/4gw professional error (2002): transfer stack overflow on interrupt 08h at 170:001ef75a
and then a whole bunch of dos mumbo-jumbo...
any ideas?
Dosbox crashes to a complete freeze at this point although it shows me the command line thing at the very end of the message

The Fifth Horseman 29-09-2009 06:51 AM

Change the game's soundcard settings to match DOSBox' sound emulation settings. See if it helps.

arete 29-09-2009 10:13 AM

Good news is, I got an airport working :D With two runways.

Now I shall have to try the whole thing again, but with more space for expansion and a more centralised area for public buildings. Ever used subways? Are they any good? Bus stations don't seem to be used much...

peedee 29-09-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by arete (Post 384231)
Good news is, I got an airport working :D With two runways.

Now I shall have to try the whole thing again, but with more space for expansion and a more centralised area for public buildings. Ever used subways? Are they any good? Bus stations don't seem to be used much...

Bus stations work very differently to other public transport. :)

Train and Subway stations will take sims from within about a 3 square radius to another station on the network. I never found them very useful because you need to build so bloody many of them to get people around!!!

Bus stations however seem to have an area effect of reducing traffic in the local area. The buses don't actually travel from station to station, one bus station will work on its own.

Place bus stations at busy junctions/sections of road and you will notice that the traffic decrease noticably!!! :thumbs:

arete 29-09-2009 07:26 PM

Tks, I'll do that. I should build a prison too, but I hate prisons... Atm I'm enjoying my very own seaport :3: And I'm trying to build a rail network but it's difficult with all the mountains in the way. I prefer this game to SC 3000; it has so much charm ^_^ Once I've got the whole map full of city, I'll start turning on disasters :D /ebil ... Or try get archologies that'll launch into space :mhh:

The Fifth Horseman 29-09-2009 10:27 PM

Arete: Can send you a copy of my "perfect" city, if you like. :)

arete 02-10-2009 07:19 AM

That would be nice. Did you name it Coruscant? :3: Or Jerusalem? ^_^

The Fifth Horseman 02-10-2009 02:07 PM

Mega-City One, actually. :p

Lenor 28-11-2009 05:22 PM

This game is so great,it's better than the newer simcity games...dunno why.I enjoy this better.

Thank you Abandonia

laiocfar 30-11-2009 12:07 PM

Yep, many times an old game is simpler than a modern one but it makes up in gameplay and speed.

Jam-ez 24-12-2009 02:44 AM

Help
 
I downloaded the zip folder from the link on the site, but cant get it to work. someone help please

dosraider 24-12-2009 02:01 PM

Tutorials enough here to get them ol'games running on modern hardware.
Happy reading.
.... and should you still have problems, "IT DOESN'T WORK" won't help you here.
We need moar details if you really want help.

And AB has a nice Troubleshooting sub.
.... Just saying.

supa_mario 24-12-2009 07:44 PM

I spent many hours of my childhood destroying the pre built cities. I could never quite get the hang of building.

I still have the windows deluxe CD version if anybody wants me to share it.

Ribon 01-01-2010 01:04 PM

Oh man... the only city that really developed in my SC2k game was Charleston (after like 50+ restarts). The hurricane destroyed nearly all my power plants and building new ones would cost me a fortune.

Very difficult game, maybe even more difficult than SC4.

supa_mario 01-01-2010 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ribon (Post 392201)
Oh man... the only city that really developed in my SC2k game was Charleston (after like 50+ restarts). The hurricane destroyed nearly all my power plants and building new ones would cost me a fortune.

Very difficult game, maybe even more difficult than SC4.

Sim city 4 is far far easier in comparison.

Ribon 07-01-2010 02:57 PM

Yeh, once you get the hang of it. :) Although I'm kinda disappointed with traffic in SC4; even with Rush Hour it's impossible to prevent traffic congestions even with one-way roads.

Anyway, I think I might give this game another try. Who knows, maybe I was too young and inexperienced back then to really make the most of it.

Momentarythought 20-01-2011 11:50 PM

I'm hoping someone can help direct me to where I might get a copy of SimCity 2000 for DOS to install. Not the pre-installed version here. An actual /install/ copy that will let the user input name and company to show in the beginning of the game? I know I found a clean install copy a few years ago online, but can't figure out where in the world it is now. All the copies I can find now are already installed and set up, and there's no way to change the name and company name that shows at the beginning. As to why I want to be able to do that, it's for a personal copy for someone who has fond nostalgia of the original game, and I want their name and title on it when it starts up as a gift.
Is there anyone who can help me?

captain38 25-01-2011 05:59 AM

Sorry can't help. Craigslist? eBay?

The Fifth Horseman 25-01-2011 07:10 AM

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I can get you floppy images. Give me half an hour.

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Momentarythought 25-01-2011 09:36 PM

That's just what I needed, super. Thank you very much!

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 421529)
I can get you floppy images. Give me half an hour.

EDIT: Here.


salisbury 14-02-2011 12:15 AM

I first played SimCity on my Mac desktop soon after its release and like some people I couldn't see the point of it. Now I'm a teacher and believe it or not this game is a great teaching aid. My students use this game to actually see how the infrastructure of a city comes together and it's a lot of fun as well. Cheers.

tristanzz 25-05-2012 09:00 AM

Hard Mode (No Disasters)

I wanted to share my experience giving this game a go on Hard mode. People are saying NEVER to issue a bond in Simcity 2000. They never pay off, and you'll go deep into debt. Well, screw that. We're going to try and issue a ton of bonds and build a resplendent (though highly leveraged) city!

Starting out, we check out our budget menu and click on the bonds to see what is going on:

http://i46.tinypic.com/153mpgi.jpg

Loan rating is your eligibility for another loan. You start out with 1 good 3% bond for 10 grand. The Fed Rate is the rate at which the SimFederal Reserve is lending monkey to banks; these banks could inflict us with a much higher interest rate depending on our credit rating. With a Credit Score of "F," we don't even qualify for another bond. But having a high city value increases your credit rating. On the surface, it would seem that our credit score dictates that we have to start on 10k and nothing else. More on that in a moment. It's worth bearing in mind that this game I played is just sort of Hard. The land is flat and ready to serve the will of the Sims, and the heavens hold their peace with the earth (disasters are turned off). On the other hand, the year is 1900, so only the barest basics are available for our use. In the year 2050, I will either be out on my ass or— hopefully— literally lightyears ahead of a city founded in 2050.

First off: the City Value ($0, pictured above). The bank officers love power plants, for some reason. Coal plants and Hydro Dams, in particular, drastically boost the City Value and can vault us into a AAA credit rating. They add 1000x their cost: each Dam adds $4 million to the City Value; each coal plant adds $40 million. Placing these will enable us to get more loans at competitive rates, immediately. If you are building in harsh terrain, feel free to drop water squares on the slopes and dam them up, or on the plains create patterns like this one, pictured below.

http://i50.tinypic.com/34gm5p2.jpg

Alternating water pumps and Hydro Dams like so, the water tiles you place on slopes do double-duty. In the picture, the 12 little Hydro Dams have added $48 million to the city's net worth. The 17 water pumps have also added $1.7 million. The credit score is now AAA, and we can get some bonds at the rate of 4%.

For this map, though, it's probably better to just use our first 10k to build 2 Coal Plants. In fact, we're going to issue lots of 4% bonds, merrily building Coal Plants as we go. And then before the interest rate hits 5, we stop and sneak in... a vast city!

http://i49.tinypic.com/oirc0h.jpg

Surely we wouldn't want to see those Coal Plants go to waste...

There is one goal in a hard mode city: INCOME. Fast income. Education takes many, many years to return income. It's the lowest priority. Health is nearly as slow coming on. Other things that boost demand and land values though— police, fire, Road & Rail connections, and a few cheap Parks— are instantaneous effects and can help so long as we don't go overboard on them. Raw RCI development is the fastest income and the thing on which everything rides, so almost all of the money not spent on Power and Water has gone into laying down as many zones as possible. It doesn't matter at the start if the Sims are unhappy, unhealthy, uneducated, and beset on all sides by criminals. They come to this horrid city... to live, labor, and die under the shadow of the 10k Bond, and our job as Hard Mode Mayor is to squeeze them like fruit rinds. Zone dense, to save on transportation and amenities.

Next up: another thing about Hard is that SimNation will probably go into some deep depressions. What this means is that your Industry, the products you export to the rest of SimNation, will get absolutely hammered and accordingly turn your entire city into a ghost town. Prepare for this. Zero the industry tax as soon as you see it suddenly start dropping off. The good news here is for your bonds, though! The Fed will cut interest rates to try to get easy money flowing again. Get in on the action. Roll over the bonds. Issue low interest bonds and pay your higher-interest bonds off, completely.

Here we are grabbing up *2%* bonds in 1904, right when the depression hits. (Also note how industry demand, the yellow bar, went into the toilet.) God's own interest rate, these things only cost $200 a year to hold. $10,000 worth of zoning beats that by miles.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2lbcqx0.jpg

Wrapping up: once we weather the depression, we'll see our RCI demand stabilize. I would recommend holding onto loans rather than paying them off, as long as there are still flat tiles on the map to develop. Keep the bonds working hard! Remember, INCOME is the word, and we can probably get more income by developing every square on the map than by repaying the bonds, at least if they are cheap. Expensive loans, say 6% and up, are a different matter and need to be eliminated as fast as possible.

DarthHelmet86 25-05-2012 10:47 AM

All I can imagine is this is a mayor who likes taking loans from loan sharks. In fear of getting knee capped he works his sims to death desperate to pay off his loans, but sadly like an idiot he takes out more and more loans to pay them off. Until one day he gets some new cement shoes.

Keep this up I am much liking the idea...and the way I am reading Loan Shark into it.

Japo 25-05-2012 02:55 PM

Well you've got to admit that it's a true simulation of political reality. :P I guess he may be onto something, though.

tristanzz 26-05-2012 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthHelmet86 (Post 442734)
All I can imagine is this is a mayor who likes taking loans from loan sharks. In fear of getting knee capped he works his sims to death desperate to pay off his loans, but sadly like an idiot he takes out more and more loans to pay them off. Until one day he gets some new cement shoes.

Keep this up I am much liking the idea...and the way I am reading Loan Shark into it.

Yeah, that's the basic idea for Hard Mode. Build a pile of SimMisery and yank as much out of the wretches as possible. Fortunately, if we vault our credit rating, we will avoid getting sharked and end up serving our own coffers rather than CitiGroup's.

In 1911 the north side of the river was fully conquered. I built a bridge across it and started getting slaves in place on the south side.

By 1937, the entire map was covered with glorious, ugly urban sprawl and making money hand-over-fist. (pictured below...) The 150k worth of bonds was able to be paid off 6 years after this point.

http://i50.tinypic.com/zivvyf.jpg

The neighboring towns remain in the stone age. Health spending on this map is still trivial. I put on the junior sports ordinance and made a couple hospitals so that kids would be healthy. But the old people must all die. They don't work, so they don't give much of a kick to the Res/Com demand structure. Look at how high the residential & commercial property taxes can be without them!

Looking now at the little zone map, note that the city is very densely zoned and uses only roads— no mass transit. There are 16 longitudinal roads on each side that serve as the commuting arteries across the zones. No one bothers using the stupid bridge I built. Sims automatically realize that the other side of the city is just as disgusting as theirs.

</Hard Mode>

another_guest 05-06-2012 09:02 AM

Very interesting take on SimCity :OK:
And like Japo said, it's quite realistic too, I bet some people are getting their inspiration from such as sim...

tinyturtle56 10-03-2013 02:15 AM

Help
 
Will anyone help me i'm very confused and really want to figure out how to download this SimCity 2000! I don't see any download option so if u know how please show/explain what i'm supposed to do.

dosraider 10-03-2013 04:27 AM

You can't download it anymore, game is sold again@ GOG
Hence the 'buy it' option.

Game page is kept on AB for informative reasons.

sportyjeans 31-03-2013 11:12 AM

Always loved this game, building a city for hours and send it down the drain in 2 minutes, using aliens lol

Unregisterededed 22-04-2013 11:29 AM

Combatability
 
Is there an edition of this that someone has, by chance made compatible with my x64bit OS? So far all I get is an error message stating incompatibility with my system. WHo'da thunk I'd ever regret my updated system???? Barring that, is there a x32 bit system emulator available anywhere? I REALLY loved this game, back in the day. Lol

The Fifth Horseman 22-04-2013 12:07 PM

The fun thing is that this game is not 32-bit. It's 16-bit.
Use the DOS version in DOSBox
OR
Use the Windows version in Windows 3.11 running inside DOSBox
OR
Buy a ready to run version bundled with DOSBox from GOG

align_left 15-05-2013 02:35 PM

Hi there,

i just found the Disk Version (German Version) in my basement and tried it.

Unfortunately it seems that the files on my disk are corrupted.

Is there anybody who also has disk version and could help me out with some files?


These are files on my disk's.
Disk 1:
AHEAD._
APPIAN._
ATI._
BOCA._
C_AND_T._
CIRRUS._
CITIES._
COMPAQ._
DIAMOND._
EVEREX._
GENOA._
HERCULES._
IBM._
INFO.EXE
INSTALL._
INSTALL.EXE
INSTALL.MXS
IRIS._
LIESMICH.TXT
MAXIS.CIM
OAK._
ORCHID._
PERFECTV._
POSTCARD.CIM
SC2000._
SIGMA._
SOUND._
SPIDER._
TECMAR._
TI_PORT._
TRIDENT._
TSENG._
UNIVESA._
VIDEO7._

Disk 2:
HEADLAND._
PARADISE._
SC2DAT._
SCENARIO._
STB._
WESTERN._

Could somebody compare the files and if there is no file missing send me the files from Disk 2?

Would be great! Thanks!

The Fifth Horseman 15-05-2013 03:57 PM

Filenames alone aren't much help - it would be possible to determine if files are missing with them, but not if they are corrupted.

The Fifth Horseman 15-05-2013 03:57 PM

Filenames alone aren't much help - it would be possible to determine if files are missing, but not if they are corrupted.

align_left 15-05-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 452672)
Filenames alone aren't much help - it would be possible to determine if files are missing, but not if they are corrupted.

I'm not sure if there is something missing. I don't have any infos about the files on the Disk's from the German release.

I compared my Disk's with the one's from Post 143, which is the English Release.

There are differences, but it could be that there are just because of the language. The Info.exe was missing on my 2nd Disk, i copied the file onto it and tried to install it again. After a while the setup wants the 2nd Disk and says that my one is the wrong one.

So dont have a clue!


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