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The Fifth Horseman 16-07-2010 04:11 PM

Since several versions ago, DOSBox supports running Windows 3.x inside itself. This way, you can run old Windows games via DOSBox - things like Stars!, Zombie Wars (etc.), which no longer work normally (if at all) on modern versions of Windows.
However, despite several existing guides, the process can still be confusing for new users - not least those who never had to deal with Windows 3 before in the first place.

I was hoping to test mine more extensively before making it public, but since I didn't receive any feedback on it for almost two months I guess keeping it under wraps is sort of pointless now:
http://files.abandonia.com/extras/Pr...r%20DOSBox.rar

List of contents

All you have to do is unpack the thing to the location you mount as DOSBox' virtual C drive, unless that location is the root of your system drive. You don't want to overwrite your copy of Windows, trust me on that.
From now on, all it will take to run Windows 3.11 in your DOSBox is - once you mount the directory you extracted the package into - entering windows.bat from the command line.

This is an experimental fix that should solve problems with games requiring a Borland DPMI server: http://files.abandonia.com/extras/Pr...DPMI%20fix.rar
Unpack to the Windows directory (the one from the above package, not the one where your computer's actual operating system is installed), optionally also the game directory and see if it works.

Notes:
* Again, do not unpack this to the root of your system drive. A subdirectory will be fine.
* This package is meant to be used with DOSBox 0.73 and newer. It most likely will not work properly in older versions.
* Dragging & Dropping the batch file over DOSBox executable probably won't work.
* You might consider disabling MPU-401 emulation in DOSBox. I found it caused some issues with MIDI music in Windows games.
* The display is set to a 640x480 resolution with 8-bit color depth (256 colors). If you want, you can change that under Main >> Windows Setup >> Options >> Change System Settings >> Display. Up to 800x600 the color depth can be set to up to 24-bit (16,7 million colors), up to 1024x764 to 16-bit (65 thousand colors), the higher resolutions (up to the highest supported 1600x1200) only permit 8-bit color depth.

nextinline 31-07-2010 06:01 PM

wow
 
Wow, a Win 3.11 for :DOSBOX:? I wonder how will the games for it work.

dosraider 31-07-2010 06:32 PM

Most Win3 games run flawless in dosbox/W3.
Only a few will need additional tweaking.

BTW, dosgames in dosbox/W3.x isn't a good idea (for those who presume they can use W3 as an easy to use GUY to launch dosgames in dosbox )

shoobashoo2727 29-12-2011 04:12 PM

I unpackaged everything just like in the description, but when I try to run windows.bat I get a message that says cannot find a device file that may be needed to run windows. Any ideas?

The Fifth Horseman 29-12-2011 04:50 PM

Not much from the extremely brief description.
I could possibly figure it out of I had a screenshot of the error message, a copy of your DOSBox configuration file and the information about your mounts (if they are not defined in the config file). Knowing the DOSBox version you are using may be important too.

Eagle of Fire 29-12-2011 05:18 PM

The error happen because shoobashoo2727 does not mount the content of the archive under his root c:\ directory in DOSBox.

If you mount a subdirectory and then try to make Windows 3.11 to run then it will not work.

shoobashoo2727 29-12-2011 05:40 PM

I unpackaged everything just like in the description, but when I try to run windows.bat I get a message that says cannot find a device file that may be needed to run windows. Any ideas?

The Fifth Horseman 29-12-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

I unpackaged everything just like in the description, but when I try to run windows.bat I get a message that says cannot find a device file that may be needed to run windows. Any ideas?
If it doesn't work, then you did something wrong.
As I said before, to actually troubleshoot your problem I need to have the following:
  • A screenshot of the error message
  • A copy of your DOSBox configuration file (if you modified it from the default one, including any changes to the [autoexec] section)
  • The information about your mounts (if they are not defined in the config file)
  • The version number of the DOSBox copy you are using
  • A screenshot of the directory you are mounting as your C drive in DOSBox
  • A screenshot of the Windows directory inside that

And yes, Eagle is a bit incomprehensible today. But he is right that this is a likely cause.

Let's assume you have a c:\dosgames you are mounting as the C drive in DOSBox.
If you unpack the archive to c:\dosgames, mount that as the C drive in DOSBox and then enter windows, the package will start correctly.
If you unpack the archive to c:\dosgames\windows, you are doing it wrong because the package already contains the required directory structure and will give an error message like the one you described.

Eagle of Fire 29-12-2011 07:57 PM

I am incomprehensible today? What make you say that?

What I did was download the whole thing and try to make it work myself on my own computer. I got the exact same problem until I realized (by myself, I guess I should have read the instructions here before hand but I was confident with my level of troubleshooting I'd find the problem myself) what I wrote in my last message.

I'm confident that's the exact problem shoobashoo2727 have, else I would not have mentioned it.

Edit: It is also noteworthy to state that starting the .bat file without DOSBox provide the same result. I didn't mention it though because it is very obvious in your resume that you need DOSBox to run it...

(Yes, I tried to run it under Windows myself too. :p)

DarthHelmet86 29-12-2011 08:06 PM

Just so everyone is safe and secure, I only just downloaded this and got it working right away. Unzipped it into my oldgames folder, which mounts as my C in Dosbox and Win 3.11 started up like a charm.

The Fifth Horseman 20-03-2012 09:07 AM

Replaced the archive with a revised version, adding QuickTime 2.1.2.59 (apparently required to run Frankenstein: Through the eyes of a Monster)

dosraider 20-03-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 440738)
Replaced the archive with a revised version, adding QuickTime 2.1.2.59 (apparently required to run Frankenstein: Through the eyes of a Monster)

Yeah, read that on Vogons, now lets hope it doesn't break another QT game.
Man, all those QT versions were a real pain in the a*s..... :palm:

BTW, moi is always in for some testruns, but: download link seems to be dodgy ....???? Can't down the RAR apparently, only get a lot of garbage.

The Fifth Horseman 23-03-2012 02:45 PM

Seems the MIME type wasn't set right in the directory. Fixed.

dosraider 24-03-2012 05:59 AM

THX.

punkyplatypus 09-04-2012 01:16 AM

I'm having issues unpacking the Windows 3.11 rar linked. I followed your steps in the dosbox tutorial (power dolls ran fine), then I found this thread and another for running SimTower. I follow your instructions in the latter, but am unable to find MAIN or File Manager mentioned.

I tried unpacking the Windows 3.11 file again and noticed that it was flagged as a failure. Thinking the extractor I was using might be the cause, I tried two others (free rar extract frog, the extractor, and winrar 32-bit). All failed.

I'm running Windows 7, trying to run SimTower. Files extracted cap, extractor error message cap, and dosbox illegal commands

Just wondering if I'm missing something or if there's a known issue or if I'm just SOL.

The Fifth Horseman 09-04-2012 02:00 AM

The error message means your download was interrupted before it could be completed. You need to redownload the archive. The correct archive size is approximately 14 MB (14*769*279 bytes to be exact).

punkyplatypus 09-04-2012 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 441420)
The error message means your download was interrupted before it could be completed. You need to redownload the archive. The correct archive size is approximately 14 MB (14*769*279 bytes to be exact).


I tried that before posting, but it didn't work. However the archive size wasn't correct, so I tried again. This time it worked like a charm. Too much porn in the background the first couple times, I guess. Anyways, thanks man :3:

Pbplayer 18-05-2012 09:18 AM

I tried to follow this guide, but when I type in windows.bat it just says it's an illegal command. Currently I mounted DOSBox to c c:\example\, then I unpacked this download to that folder. Is this not what I'm supposed to be doing?

The Fifth Horseman 18-05-2012 10:57 AM

This is what you're supposed to be doing.
Check if you're currently on the Z: or C: mount (the letter DOSBox shows at the beginning of the command prompt) - if on Z: enter C: to change to the C: mount.
If you are on the C: mount and the problem continues, enter dir /w and tell me what you get (or post a screnshot, either way works).

ufo2222 03-09-2012 01:37 AM

I am a noob for asking this. but is this legal?

The Fifth Horseman 03-09-2012 09:01 PM

Not much more or less than abandonware itself.
Read: it's not, but it's not likely to get anyone in trouble either.
If the owners of this piece of software have a problem with us hosting this specific package and let us know, we will remove it immediately.
We wouldn't bother hosting it if it was not the only real solution to running many old Windows games, particularly those that predate Windows 95. Backwards compatibility only goes so far.

pcpro178 23-12-2012 03:28 AM

I installed the Windows 3 archive using DosBox 0.74. It seems to work fine, except for the mouse, which seems to only want to point to the corners of the Windows 3 desktop. Any ideas? Thanks.

Update: It's probably worth mentioning that I'm running DosBox inside Windows XP Mode - Windows Virtual PC. The host system is Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. The mouse seems to work fine running DosBox directly from the Windows 7 host.

dosraider 23-12-2012 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcpro178 (Post 448057)
Update: It's probably worth mentioning that I'm running DosBox inside Windows XP Mode - Windows Virtual PC.

Why? There is no reason to do this.
Dosbox works fine directly on Win7-64.

Should you absolutely want to continue running an emulator inside a VM : disable joystick.
(dosbox -> manual)

Also:
Quote:

Originally Posted by dosraider (Post 411262)
............
It's been a while now, had time to test a lot of things with XP mode under Win7.
Have to say it's a great soft to run old applications or use old printers that refuse to run-work in Win7, but for gaming it's a let down. Not that surprising, after all it was never meant as gaming platform......


The Fifth Horseman 23-12-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcpro178 (Post 448057)
Update: It's probably worth mentioning that I'm running DosBox inside Windows XP Mode - Windows Virtual PC. The host system is Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. The mouse seems to work fine running DosBox directly from the Windows 7 host.

Do you have a specific reason to run DOSBox in XP mode instead of directly? If yes, what is it?

azzizzle 12-02-2013 03:51 AM

Hello there and thank you for all of the help so far!

I was able to install windows 3.1 correctly using your file (thank you SO much for that!).

I can log into windows using DOSbox just fine and am able to play free cell and some other games that came with your files. However, how do I add more games to play into your files, so I can play it through your windows? I have the files ready to go but apparently MUST do so through windows, not just DOSbox.

dosraider 12-02-2013 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azzizzle (Post 449539)
.... However, how do I add more games to play into your files, so I can play it through your windows?....

Good morning (yep, morning here ....)

It's pretty simple:
Let me assume that you got the whole W3 stuff in .....\oldgames\
Simply put (unzip) the game's folder into it, something as:
....\oldgames\yourgame\
When launching W3 within dosbox you'll find ....\oldgames\yourgame\ as
c:\yourgame\ in W3

Keep in mind that many W3 games will need to be installed, usually it's done by running setup.exe from the game's folder (some are still using 'install.xxx', but most will use setup)

[optional]
A good idea is to backup your whole ...\oldgames\ folder where you have installed W3 before installing other stuff (games, whatever) into it, as in those days it happened that programmers would overwrite some sysfiles with older or not so compat versions, completely screwing up other games/softs in the process, ah those were the days..... if happens it's simply a matter of putting your backup back to solve eventual probs.

Paladin045 13-03-2013 06:06 AM

I'm getting an odd error... at least, I think it's an odd one. It's not one I've seen yet on the forums, anyway.

When booting 3.11, it gets to the following point:

Creative DOS Multimedia Architecture (v1.00)
CSP Physical-Level driver (v1.14) for Sound Blaster 16.
Copyright (C) Creative Technology Ltd., 1992-1994. All rights reserved.
Error CSPSYS1006: Could not detect the CSP.

Driver initiation failed.
Quitting program...

Creative DOS Multimedia Architecture (v1.00)
CTMMSYS Integration driver (v1.00)
Copyright (C) Creative Technology Ltd., 1993-1995. All rights Reserved.

[screen automatically clears]

The selected display driver does not support the installed graphics chip.

Run the Setup program to select the proper display driver for the graphics
chip installed.

Press a key to continue..._





If it's pertinent information, I've got an ATI Mobility Radeon 5650 graphics card. Any help would be appreciated.

dosraider 13-03-2013 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin045 (Post 450647)
.................
Error CSPSYS1006: Could not detect the CSP.

Driver initiation failed.
Quitting program...
.............................
The selected display driver does not support the installed graphics chip.
.................

Means you're not launching W3 (from the provided archive by Fifth) *(FYI: you can not 'boot' W3, it runs on top of Dos)* within the right emulated hardware, in other words: you ain't launching it through dosbox 0.74.

Reread carefully the instructions in the first post. And apply them.

The Fifth Horseman 13-03-2013 10:24 AM

Let's go through what have you done - step by step - before you received that error message.

Paladin045 13-03-2013 01:00 PM

I got the Windows 3.1 .rar from the first post, and extracted it to C:\oldapps. That's the folder I keep my abandonware in; each program in there has its own folder, but the 3.1 extraction is sitting in the main directory.

I open DOSbox 0.72, mount the oldapps folder to a virtual C drive, and give it the following command:

C:\windows.bat

It then proceeds to partially boot and display the error I posted above.

Japo 13-03-2013 01:36 PM

I'm not familiar with Horseman's tool, but try
Code:

C:
Windows

Two commands, Enter in between. In case the tool needs the current directory to be set. You are calling it from Z: if I got you right.

The Fifth Horseman 13-03-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin045 (Post 450653)
I open DOSbox 0.72, mount the oldapps folder to a virtual C drive, and give it the following command:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 433350)
* This package is meant to be used with DOSBox 0.73 and newer. It most likely will not work properly in older versions.

The most current DOSBox version (as of May 2010) is 0.74. Consider upgrading.

Moose_of_Abandon 24-08-2013 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 433350)
I was hoping to test mine more extensively before making it public, but since I didn't receive any feedback on it for almost two months I guess keeping it under wraps is sort of pointless now:
http://files.abandonia.com/extras/Pr...r%20DOSBox.rar

Worked perfectly for me - first time. :smile2: :OK:

For anyone having problems, here's *exactly* what I did:
(1). Create a directory on my harddrive, in my case: d:\DOSBOX2.

(2). Download and UnRar the above archive (with directories intact !) to d:\DOSBOX2

This gave me the following files and directory structure in D:\DOSBox2

<DIR> WING
<DIR> SB16
<DIR> WIN32APP
<DIR> WINDOWS
windows.bat
Devlod.com

If you don't have this, then you have *not* extracted the RAR file properly (make sure you extract the RAR completely and with paths / directories intact).

(3). Run DOSBox v0.74 and in DOSBox's command window type the following commands:

mount c d:\DOSBOX2
c:
windows

and that's it. Piece of cake. :max:

Yelrihs36 15-09-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose_of_Abandon (Post 456423)
Worked perfectly for me - first time. :smile2: :OK:

For anyone having problems, here's *exactly* what I did:
(1). Create a directory on my harddrive, in my case: d:\DOSBOX2.

(2). Download and UnRar the above archive (with directories intact !) to d:\DOSBOX2

This gave me the following files and directory structure in D:\DOSBox2

<DIR> WING
<DIR> SB16
<DIR> WIN32APP
<DIR> WINDOWS
windows.bat
Devlod.com

If you don't have this, then you have *not* extracted the RAR file properly (make sure you extract the RAR completely and with paths / directories intact).

(3). Run DOSBox v0.74 and in DOSBox's command window type the following commands:

mount c d:\DOSBOX2
c:
windows

and that's it. Piece of cake. :max:

That's weird because I did EXACTLY what you did (my DOSbox directory is d:\DOSBOX and that's where I pasted all the files after unzipping the archive) My directory structure is exactly the same as yours and this is what I entered:

MOUNT C D:\DOSBOX
C:
WINDOWS.BAT

And then Windows starts, but then my Program Manager is completely blank. There's nothing in it, it's just completely white. I'm trying to play SimTower on my laptop (Win7 64-bit) and there was a video tutorial I watched but I'm not pretty much stuck because there's nothing to click in the Program Manager.

Scatty 15-09-2013 07:40 PM

You might need first to copy/install games to a sub-folder in the D:\DOSBOX\ folder, since the DOSBOX folder is essentially a complete drive, mounted with DosBox, and you can't access any other folders on drive D: while in DosBox (and with Win 3.11's Program Manager at that), with that mount command.
If there's nothing at all shown in Program Manager, maybe it's because all other sub-folders in DOSBOX are marked as Hidden and/or System and not visible normally.

The Fifth Horseman 15-09-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yelrihs36 (Post 457085)
And then Windows starts, but then my Program Manager is completely blank. There's nothing in it, it's just completely white. I'm trying to play SimTower on my laptop (Win7 64-bit) and there was a video tutorial I watched but I'm not pretty much stuck because there's nothing to click in the Program Manager.

Screenshot, please.

Check that d:\dosbox\windows contains several GRP files: ACCESSOR.GRP, AUDIOSOF.GRP, GAMES.GRP, MAIN.GRP, NETWORK.GRP, QUICKTIM.GRP and STARTUP.GRP
Also verify that PROGMAN.INI contains:
Code:

[Settings]
Window=33 21 590 323 1
Order= 1 7 6 8 2 3 5 4
display.drv=S3TRIO.DRV
AutoArrange=0

[Groups]
Group1=C:\WINDOWS\MAIN.GRP
Group2=C:\WINDOWS\ACCESSOR.GRP
Group3=C:\WINDOWS\NETWORK.GRP
Group4=C:\WINDOWS\GAMES.GRP
Group5=C:\WINDOWS\STARTUP.GRP
Group8=C:\WINDOWS\AUDIOSOF.GRP
Group6=C:\WINDOWS\ZOMBIEWA.GRP
Group7=C:\WINDOWS\QUICKTIM.GRP


Yelrihs36 17-09-2013 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 457091)
Screenshot, please.

Check that d:\dosbox\windows contains several GRP files: ACCESSOR.GRP, AUDIOSOF.GRP, GAMES.GRP, MAIN.GRP, NETWORK.GRP, QUICKTIM.GRP and STARTUP.GRP
Also verify that PROGMAN.INI contains:
Code:

[Settings]
Window=33 21 590 323 1
Order= 1 7 6 8 2 3 5 4
display.drv=S3TRIO.DRV
AutoArrange=0

[Groups]
Group1=C:\WINDOWS\MAIN.GRP
Group2=C:\WINDOWS\ACCESSOR.GRP
Group3=C:\WINDOWS\NETWORK.GRP
Group4=C:\WINDOWS\GAMES.GRP
Group5=C:\WINDOWS\STARTUP.GRP
Group8=C:\WINDOWS\AUDIOSOF.GRP
Group6=C:\WINDOWS\ZOMBIEWA.GRP
Group7=C:\WINDOWS\QUICKTIM.GRP


AH, I think I know what the problem is now... I opened PROGRAM.INI and while the [settings] part is correct, there is nothing under [groups].
This is what I see:

Code:

[Settings]
Window=33 21 590 323 1
Order=1 7 6 8 2 3 5 4
display.drv=S3TRIO.DRV
AutoArrange=0

[Groups]

Should I just add those in myself and save?

EDIT: I added those things into PROGRAM.INI and now it looks okay. Thanks for your help :)

PinkyPoo 20-11-2013 01:31 AM

Hey, I came across this when I was searching for ways to play my old Sim Tower game. I just can't get your link to work on the original post so that I can get the files. I tried on a different laptop as well as different browsers and neither of them worked. Any help would be lovely!

The Fifth Horseman 20-11-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkyPoo (Post 458181)
Hey, I came across this when I was searching for ways to play my old Sim Tower game. I just can't get your link to work on the original post so that I can get the files. I tried on a different laptop as well as different browsers and neither of them worked. Any help would be lovely!

Try this link: http://ge.tt/3hVItQ01/v/0

PinkyPoo 20-11-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 458192)

Worked like a charm, thank you!
One more question for you if you don't mind! It all works perfectly, but when I try and bring my mouse back out to my actual computer screen rather than windows 3 in dos, it disappears. Is there a way to prevent that? It also disappears when I close out of windows 3 and goes back to the dos box screen. Thank you so much!

Japo 20-11-2013 08:06 PM

See first question:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Japo (Post 422047)
Q: My mouse doesn't work in DOSBox, or it doesn't work outside of DOSBox.
Q: I want to play in full screen, why is the game inside such a small window when using DOSBox?
Q: The game is too fast or slow in DOSBox.
Q: How can I capture screenshots or video from DOSBox?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Japo (Post 330293)
  • Ctrl+F10 Switch mouse control between Windows and DOSBox.
  • Alt+Enter Toggle between fullscreen and windowed.
  • Ctrl+F11 / Ctrl+F12 Reduce / increase the game speed, if it's too fast or too slow.
  • Ctrl+F5 Capture a screenshot ...
  • Ctrl+Alt+F5 Capture a video clip ...



The Fifth Horseman 20-11-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkyPoo (Post 458193)
Worked like a charm, thank you!
One more question for you if you don't mind! It all works perfectly, but when I try and bring my mouse back out to my actual computer screen rather than windows 3 in dos, it disappears. Is there a way to prevent that?

No way to prevent it in the way you want, but all you need to do is press CTRL + F10 to unlock the cursor or just ALT+TAB to another application.
Quote:

It also disappears when I close out of windows 3 and goes back to the dos box screen.
That's normal. The command line interface won't display the cursor as it has no sue for it. If you used Norton Commander you'd find it still there.

PinkyPoo 20-11-2013 11:04 PM

Ah, thank you both! :)

Auridon 06-04-2014 05:23 PM

Okay, I need some definite help on this whole thing.

I downloaded dosbox .74 and it went into

C:\Program Files (x86)\DOSBox-0.74


Now, I have read through every post on this thread, and still can't seem to figure it out. ( I am new to dosbox, except i had it once to play treasure mountain, but it was much simpler)

Anyways, I read somewhere that dosbox needs to be on c: Mine is currently saying Z: before everything.


Can you please help me on exactly what i need to do to get 3.x installed. I am worried because of what the main post said

"All you have to do is unpack the thing to the location you mount as DOSBox' virtual C drive, unless that location is the root of your system drive. You don't want to overwrite your copy of Windows, trust me on that."

I am not sure what he means by that, I am not sure what a virtual c drive is, and how do i know if the location is the root of my system. please help!!!

The Fifth Horseman 24-04-2014 02:24 PM

This package is targeted towards users with at least basic experience running and configuring DOSBox without frontends.
The beginner's guide should get you up to speed and answers all of the specific questions you asked.

ultimate11 06-05-2014 04:35 PM

Question 5th, what build of DosBox (Either vanilla or an enhanced build, like Ykhwong's build) are you using?

Edro 11-05-2014 04:49 PM

Hi, I've downloaded and managed to run Win 3.1 through DosBox like it says in the first post. But when I try to run Zombie Wars I get an error message saying "Invalid Path The working directory is invalid".

What should I do?

The Fifth Horseman 14-05-2014 08:08 AM

Ultimate11: Vanilla.

Edro: The shortcut was left in by accident, the actual game is not in the pack (which is why it doesn't start). The game can be downloaded from Abandonia separately.

Edro 19-05-2014 12:29 PM

How can I run the game using Windows 3.11 if it's not in the pack? I download it and what do I have to do next?

The Fifth Horseman 20-05-2014 11:42 PM

Unpack the game to somewhere within the directory you're mounting as DOSBox's C drive.
The File Manager (Windows 3.11's version of Explorer) can be found in Main -> File Manager . Use it to navigate to the game's location and run Zwars.exe.

It's possible to update the shortcut (click it once, then File -> Properties) to make it run the copy you've unpacked.

Edro 23-05-2014 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 460183)
Unpack the game to somewhere within the directory you're mounting as DOSBox's C drive.
The File Manager (Windows 3.11's version of Explorer) can be found in Main -> File Manager . Use it to navigate to the game's location and run Zwars.exe.

It's possible to update the shortcut (click it once, then File -> Properties) to make it run the copy you've unpacked.

It works!:OK: Thanks a lot Fifth Horseman :)

rallymoose 19-11-2014 10:16 AM

Is it possible to use a language other than english?
 
Hi.
I wonder if it is possible to use another language version of windows 3.11 other than English and if if i can, how...?
I have the setup files for the Swedish version, but where do i go from there?

The Fifth Horseman 24-11-2014 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rallymoose (Post 461576)
Hi.
I wonder if it is possible to use another language version of windows 3.11 other than English and if if i can, how...?
I have the setup files for the Swedish version, but where do i go from there?

It should be possible to use any version of Windows 3.11.
You need to install it inside DOSBox first, then install the drivers and other software add-ons. The first post in this thread holds a list of what I used originally, most of those items should still be online somewhere.

tileyon 31-03-2015 09:50 PM

Many thanks to fifth horseman
 
I just discovered your work. It is excellent. So great to run win3.11 from a directory instead of a disk image in true color and complete sound blaster 16 installation and win32s. I can now access all my mounted folders and images from win 3.11. Basically I am running a virtual clone of the machines I ran 20 years ago: intel 486 66 Mhz with 64 MB ram with Adobe photoshop 3.0, Delphi 16 bit and Corel 3 from all major platforms (Windows, OSX, IOS, Android and Linux). The best thing is that the virtual machine described above runs with the same performance level (speed, color depth, stability, functionality) I had on the physical machines of yesteryear. I even get these results from Android phones and tablets running as low as 1.2 Ghz. Thanks again for your wonderful work. By the way the hackers keyboard makes the experience complete and dosbox4sk (a free port of dosbox turbo) makes it almost painless and flawless on Android.

jayarrtoo 28-05-2015 04:40 PM

Heh, now once DOSBox gets a network card emulator by default... I can then browse teh interwebs with Netscape Communicator in 3.1 glory!

pola 15-08-2015 10:21 PM

Hi, I've just downloaded the pack and unpacked in my dosbox games folder, but I get the same message as mentioned by someone before:

"Cannot find a device file that may be needed to run Windows.

Make sure that the PATH line in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file points to the directory that contains the file and that it exists on your hard disk. If the file does not exist, try running Setup to install it or remove any references to it from your SYSTEM.INI file.
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\windpmi.386
Press a key to continue"

Upon pressing any key the message pops up again, and again, and again into infinity, so the only thing to do is close Dosbox.

Steps:
1. I run dosbox as admin
2. I mount d d:\games\dosboxgames (where I unpacked both the windows pack and the game I want to play, without any subfolders)
3. I go to d:
4. I run windows.bat
5. I get the error message (above)

The game I'm trying to run is Ace Ventura, I've read that I need Windows 3 to run it. My Dosbox version is Dosbox-0.74. My Windows version is Windows 8.1. If I try to run the game without calling windows.bat, I get the error message "This program requires Microsoft Windows". It seems like a vicious circle - game doesn't recognize I have Windows, Windows doesn't recognize I have the game. What am I doing wrong? What can I do to run the game? Many thanks!

The Fifth Horseman 16-01-2016 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 433350)
unpack the thing to the location you mount as DOSBox' virtual C drive

Quote:

Originally Posted by pola (Post 463762)
2. I mount d d:\games\dosboxgames (where I unpacked both the windows pack and the game I want to play, without any subfolders)
3. I go to d:
(...)
What am I doing wrong?

You're trying to mount the directory where the package is as your D drive. Mount that directory as your C drive.

luciferret 05-03-2016 07:28 PM

I got HIMEM.SYS problem with this setup. My old games dir is mounted as c: and i copied the WINDOWS directory there as instructed. Got the batch file and other executable at the c: root. When executed, error says that im missing HIMEM.SYS even tho its included in windows directory. Because of this, smartdrive cannot be loaded and apparently that prevents windows from starting.

The error says i should check my CONFIG.SYS for wrong path but there isnt one.

edit.
My mistake. I had all the memory options set to false because i was trying to get SimEarth working, with no luck :( Windows works now tho :)

arete 05-03-2016 08:57 PM

Whatever you did, you're still braver than me. I have yet to try this because I'm almost certain I'll do something stupid :picard:

fozza87 25-03-2016 01:14 PM

Hi guys i have a problem trying to play Simtower and install windows 3 without a problem.
During the Simtower setup i am unable to enter a name and therefore it wont install.
I've followed the beginners guide and have norton commander running in dosbox0.74
I've downloaded and unzipped windows 3 into its own folder in my c:\games folder
I then click on windows.bat in NC and am told by dosbox that ;
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...35&oe=574B8400
I then type and enter 'a' two times and am then told;
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0d&oe=574BF903
I enter 'a' again and windows 3 then begins loading.
I then receive several of these pop-up messages;
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...ccc9647669a7fd
I then click yes several times and then windows seems to run o.k. cool whatever i just want to play simtower.

I then excitedly use the program manager and click 'file'-'run'-'browse'-navigate to simtower -'setup.exe' and then simtower setup begins to run, it then asks me to type my name but i cannot type anything!

I am unsure if this is a simtower problem or a windows 3 problem
Windows 3 registers my key strokes however
P.S. apart from mounting an iso image this is the most extreme computing ive ever attempted

Smiling Spectre 25-03-2016 09:51 PM

Well, first obvious problem is wrong mounting. As your path clearly shows, your system expects Windows be in C:\Windows (It can be achieved by mounting mentioned c:\Games as C:)

I cannot confirm/deny your inability to print - I tried it just now in my copy of Win3.1 (got it right here) and Abandonia's copy of SimTower - and both worked. :)

fozza87 26-03-2016 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre (Post 465164)
Well, first obvious problem is wrong mounting. As your path clearly shows, your system expects Windows be in C:\Windows (It can be achieved by mounting mentioned c:\Games as C:)

privet Smiling Spectre, I believe I have mounted my games folder as my C drive.
Not using NC I type 'cd windows' and then 'windows.bat' and it boots windows 3 as it would with NC. As in I have the three 'unable to find device file' messages before it boots windows.
However in my dosbox status window i have just noticed this
https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.ne...21bddd3a67c690

Smiling Spectre 26-03-2016 10:19 PM

Hmm, so your system cannot create swap file. Interesting...

1. You didn't mount games as CD, right? CD cannot be written...

2. Is there anything else that could make your files read-only? Or maybe, something limits your free space?

3. Did you get Win3 from this discussion? Do you still get previous "cannot found" messages, or it's gone? Are you able to type in SimTower _now_? :)

ksawery 02-04-2016 08:15 PM

Hi all,
I'm using your version of Windows 3.11 - DOS BOX but when I try installing some games I get this error:
"Cannot change the properties of the file named C:\Windows\System\WinG32.dll"
Thanks

DaveTheMan 06-09-2016 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksawery (Post 465215)
Hi all,
I'm using your version of Windows 3.11 - DOS BOX but when I try installing some games I get this error:
"Cannot change the properties of the file named C:\Windows\System\WinG32.dll"
Thanks

I get same sort of Error's too

mariic 16-10-2016 01:13 AM

Chromebook
 
I'm running Dosbox on a Chromebook, how do I install win 3.11 on there?

zirkoni 16-10-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariic (Post 466328)
I'm running Dosbox on a Chromebook, how do I install win 3.11 on there?

The same way you'd do it on any other platform using DOSBox:
you only need to extract the archive you download here in your DOSBox's mounted C-drive (so that in DOSBox you have a directory C:\WINDOWS).

mariic 17-10-2016 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zirkoni (Post 466330)
The same way you'd do it on any other platform using DOSBox:
you only need to extract the archive you download here in your DOSBox's mounted C-drive (so that in DOSBox you have a directory C:\WINDOWS).

I tried, but I got "Error: no Modification Allowed Error", or something like that.

zirkoni 17-10-2016 02:53 PM

Sounds like a file permissions problem. You must have full read/write permissions in the directory that you mount as the C-drive in DOSBox.

I don't have a Chromebook so I can't really test this.

kamiledi15 09-12-2016 06:34 PM

Hi,
I would like to make a bootable Windows 3.11 on usb. I thought that maybe I can use your version for that. I made a bootable MS-Dos and it works. Then I copied your files directly to usb drive, which has bootable MS-Dos installed, without creating any additional subfolders, but when I type Windows in the bootable Dos, it says that it can't find hymem.sys file. Is it possible to use it that way?
And why I want to do it? Because I want to use internal PC Speaker in my computer, and Dosbox allows me only to emulate it. It works great in bootable MS-Dos, but it would be even better to use it in Windows 3.11.

hoopsdowntown12 06-03-2017 12:16 AM

Sys: RPi3 - RetroPie
Mem: 1 GB
Games: Civilization 2 (drive C or D), Storybook Weaver (drive C), but oddly not MSDogs (drive D)
Reproducibility of problem: Always with given applications.
DOSBox Version: DosBox 0.74
Solutions attempted: Attempted running 1MBFort.exe at launch with no success referenced here

When I boot up Windows 3.11 by calling windows.bat I can manually run Civ2.exe with no issues. When I attempt to run the command:

Code:

C:
cd windows
win c:\windows\runexit.exe c:\mps\Civ2\CIV2.EXE
exit

I get a memory issue "Insufficient memory to run this application. Quit one or more Windows applications and then try again," but only when attempting to run it with either win.com, winexit.exe, or runexit.exe, which is obviously preferable given I'm launching from EmulationStation.

I had 1MBFort running at launch to no avail, but I didn't change anything within 1MBFort.

Code:

win d:\DOGS.EXE
however will work

but,
Code:

win c:\windows\runexit d:\DOGS.EXE

gives me an error "Application Error Exception EGPFault in module SB16SND.drv at 0001:3193. General protection fault in module SB16SND.drv at 0001:3193." Do I have too many active drivers? Any way to check that out?

Not sure why everything works flawlessly with windows.bat opened with no launch commands but when I try to do it with runexit.exe it doesn't work. Thoughts? I'm stuck.:lame:


ETA: Calling a Civ2.BAT will work if I leave out the runexit part, but obviously doesn't close the program.

Code:

@c:\windows\smartdrv.exe
@SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\WINDOWS;
@SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
@lh devlod C:\SB16\DRV\CSP.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220
@lh devlod C:\SB16\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS
@SET SOUND=C:\SB16
@SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P330 T6
@SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
@C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q
@windows\win windows\runexit  d:\civ2\civ2.exe


The Fifth Horseman 13-03-2017 04:01 PM

You should have a shortcut to WinExit on your desktop - double-clicking that will exit Windows.

What is MSDogs? I'll look into testing the other programs you mentioned.

I see you were looking for assistance with this on VOGONS.
Most of the batch file relates to loading the sound drivers. It's been over five years since I did this, so I no longer remember the specifics of why I put certain things in there (smartdrv, for one) :mhh: . Probably was related to some game or piece of software I was trying to run in it.

tienkhoanguyen 31-03-2017 02:16 PM

It just occurred to me...
 
I remember a section in the DOSBox 0.74 conf file where you can increase your memory! Maybe that might help out? Not sure. Just a thought.

Turbo Beholder 27-11-2017 05:36 PM

Most of things that work under Windows 3.x at all will work under Wine.

Then again, USB/HID support in Wine is still under construction, so if you want to play with joystick, that's a problem.

succulent_club 31-12-2018 01:01 AM

Hey y'all,

First off: thanks, The Fifth Horseman, for providing this copy of Windows 3.11, and Eagle of Fire, for providing some troubleshooting tips.

For anyone who's using this forum post as an installation guide, I wanted to clarify some of the troubleshooting information that Fifth Horseman and Eagle so kindly provided.

Quote:

Let's assume you have a c:\dosgames you are mounting as the C drive in DOSBox.
If you unpack the archive to c:\dosgames, mount that as the C drive in DOSBox and then enter windows, the package will start correctly.
When FH says “unpack the archive,” they mean “after unzipping the .rar file, open the unzipped folder called Windows 3 for DOSbox, and move the contents of the unzipped folder to the folder you use as your virtual c: drive in DOSbox.”

I initially interpreted “unpack the archive” as “unzip the .rar file,” which, once you do that, gives you a single Windows 3 for Dosbox folder, so I just moved that folder as a single unit to my root folder. But, like Eagle said, you cannot run Windows 3 from a subdirectory, which the unzipped folder becomes when you move it into the root folder.

It isn't intuitive to non-programmers that you can't just move the entire folder as a single unit to your root folder, especially considering that DOSbox is generally used to directly run .exe files of retro games, and those can be run from subdirectories just fine. I hope this clears things up!

maiku 13-08-2019 08:46 PM

Just signed up to say thanks for this! Having a blast installing old software and stuff!


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