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Geezer 20-03-2009 05:32 PM

HOTU news on the front page.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the front page announcement on HOTU is a little out of place or a least over zealous? The whole long live HOTU thing sounds cultish and strange coming from our admins.

TotalAnarchy 20-03-2009 05:58 PM

Well, I never did visit this site when it was alive, so I don't know. My only complain is that it steals traffic from us, when people click that link. But generally, supporting the abandobrothers is a good a thing.

Geezer 20-03-2009 06:27 PM

My first reaction when seeing that was "Why should I care? And what does it have to do with us?" I thought our objective was to build up our own community, not sing the praises of other ones.

Chris 20-03-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMB (Post 357023)
My first reaction when seeing that was "Why should I care? And what does it have to do with us?" I thought our objective was to build up our own community, not sing the praises of other ones.

Well, for me it's also Abandonia first, but why shouldn't we take care of what happens to our neighbours. HotU was (and appartently stays) one of the best sources for abandonware related material on the net, besides us.
Maybe the newspost is a bit gushy, but I wouldn't want to argue phrases. It's a good message to see HotU alive.

Anyway, :abandonia!:

The Fifth Horseman 20-03-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

The whole long live HOTU thing sounds cultish and strange coming from our admins.
Gee, it was supposed to sound humorous and light-hearted.

Have you seen the place, anyway? In it's current state, the revived HotU doesn't qualify as any kind of competition whatsoever.
Downloads may be the primary attractor for Abandonware sites, but it's the community that makes people stick around for longer. While they can get some of the downloads back online within next week or so, a community can't be build with nothing but a snap of your fingers. Seeing as most of HotU's original community scattered to four winds long ago, they're back at square zero in this regard.

red_avatar 20-03-2009 09:07 PM

HOTU is the grandfather of all Abandonware sites. It became a benchmark for other sites. Other sites at the time (1997-1998) merely offered downloads and little else but HOTU was one of the first sites (if not THE first) to use its site as a library where you can find information on the game and not just a download. On top of that, they focussed on forgotten gems and not just on the typical Sierra/Lucas Arts/Westwood/Bullfrog games that nearly every shady abandonware site has.

I did visited the remake and it needs a LOT of work. For starters, it needs to move with the times and not stick to where HOTU got stranded. Its screenshots are horrible and there's too few of them. The info at the top takes up WAY too much space as well and line spacing needs to be more compact as well. They got a lot still to do and then they need to find a host willing to serve all those GBs of data.

Geezer 20-03-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 357026)
Gee, it was supposed to sound humorous and light-hearted.

Have you seen the place, anyway? In it's current state, the revived HotU doesn't qualify as any kind of competition whatsoever.
Downloads may be the primary attractor for Abandonware sites, but it's the community that makes people stick around for longer. While they can get some of the downloads back online within next week or so, a community can't be build with nothing but a snap of your fingers. Seeing as most of HotU's original community scattered to four winds long ago, they're back at square zero in this regard.

Maybe I took it the wrong way but HOTU has never been anything more than another abandonware site to me and I have been around a long time. :whistling: First or not. It hasn't been a going concern for quite some time and nothing that I saw at the link provided made me think it is going to be anything that special compared to what is available today.

The only thing that irked me a little is the impression it gives to first time visitors and newbie AB fans. We don't want to give the impression that this isn't the place to be. Right? We had already dedicated a discussion thread to it and now it takes a large part of the front page.

Panthro 21-03-2009 12:16 AM

If people have been here before going to the new HOTU, they may notice there are no downloads and check back here.

Those of us here aren't going to leave, and new people will have a choice of places to go. I hope that they choose Abandonia, but we will see.

I also agree that their website needs a lot of work. I couldn't even figure out how to find the "top dog" titles. Searching through was far easier in its deceased version.

RRS 21-03-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by red_avatar (Post 357031)
HOTU is the grandfather of all Abandonware sites. It became a benchmark for other sites. Other sites at the time (1997-1998) merely offered downloads and little else but HOTU was one of the first sites (if not THE first) to use its site as a library where you can find information on the game and not just a download.

Back then it even served more info than MobyGames (at least I preferred HOTU to Moby).

I just hope the revived project will get some face-lifting - their current site is not only ugly but also hard to read.
Makes my old project look even less amateurish...

Eagle of Fire 21-03-2009 03:10 AM

Maybe it is just me, but I like the new design tons more than the old one. :bleh:

_r.u.s.s. 21-03-2009 10:55 AM

i don't mind humorous posts on front page and i'm glad that hotu will be revived but "LONG LIVE HOTU" is just too much. no

it would discourage me from registring if i were a new member looking on our website and make me go to the HOTU instead of abandonia

The Fifth Horseman 21-03-2009 11:09 AM

Okay, then maybe the updated version will be more to your liking. :p

_r.u.s.s. 21-03-2009 11:10 AM

someone was apparently faster than me=P

Dave 21-03-2009 11:59 AM

I have appreciated the Announcement, I have learned the good news from there, glad to see they are working on it with passion :)

Quote:

it would discourage me from registring if i were a new member looking on our website and make me go to the HOTU instead of abandonia
This is exagerated :perv:

TotalAnarchy 21-03-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 357064)
Okay, then maybe the updated version will be more to your liking. :p

But you forgot the link!

Edit: How to do you add links to newspost? :weird:

Edit2: Found out how. Reiserted the link.

red_avatar 21-03-2009 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s. (Post 357062)
it would discourage me from registring if i were a new member looking on our website and make me go to the HOTU instead of abandonia

You'd prefer to go to a site that is still being set up without a single download than register on a site that has hundreds of games up for download? :whistling:

Dave 21-03-2009 12:23 PM

Fixed, select custom link and add the link :)

Geezer 21-03-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_avatar (Post 357081)
You'd prefer to go to a site that is still being set up without a single download than register on a site that has hundreds of games up for download? :whistling:

The point is that HOTU is a work in progress and the downloads will be there soon if I am interpreting the HOTU comments from that site correctly. We don't have to give an inch to HOTU in the future and our press should read like it. I doubt you will see any news on HOTU about how well we do at Abandonia.


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