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yoga 17-12-2019 06:37 AM

What is better: Win 8 or 10?
 
Hi, all,

Hmmm..
i have Win 7 Pro, but You probably know that

Microsoft will stop 7 support at I.2020 .

Would be so kind to share Yr thoughts conc. 7 and 10.

Thank You very much in advance for Yr time and help.

yoga the RPG gamer..

Scatty 17-12-2019 04:46 PM

I'm a proud (actually sad :p) owner of Windows 10 on a new gamer's laptop. On previous one I had Windows 8.0. I gotta tell you, I don't much like Windows 10, because of it's inevitable updates - speak, forced. At least they are forced in Home edition, Pro should have some options to avoid them I think. But many new updates can break things, there's often many bugs introduced with them, which have to be fixed later with (you guessed it) another update!
There are a few options for Home edition to mitigate that, mostly setting internet connection to Metered, so you can avoid a few that way,


It's not a big deal, but I just don't like forced updates on my computer, without having any option to deny them. With Windows 10, Microdaft took a firm control of your operating system on some levels, and you've got no say in it.
Personally, if your hardware was supported just fine with Windows 7, I'd recommend you get Windows 8.1 instead, that way you should remain fine for some years yet, while having no forced updates.

Mystvan 17-12-2019 08:02 PM

I used Windows 8.1 for a short time that I could not accurately report which one is “the best” Operating System. But compared to Windows 7, Windows 10 is far superior in aspects of OS stability (Blue Screen of Death), program operation, ease of use, Drivers, etc.

Regarding Updates, I’ve come across several times when Windows (Microsoft) Updade on Windows 7 sucks. :sucks: The reason is that Microsof Update does not work intelligently and optimally. :headslap: :palm: I will give some examples:

• It turned out that Update Check errors occur in Windows Update. I needed to use Acronis True Image to restore the OS image :sick:;
• If you are installing Windows 7, Microsoft Update will offer several patches versions of Internet Explorer, Microsoft Office, etc. Regrettably, it already happens to me that Microsoft Update installed Internet Explorer 11 before and subsequently tried to install Internet Explorer 9! In other words, Microsoft Update does not distinguish which patch to install first! :headslap: :palm:
• Installing patches so that the Installation was unsuccessful. :sick:

It would just be my personal opinion that differs from Mr. Scotty’s. :dunno:

Capo 17-12-2019 11:04 PM

Yoga!
Win 10 is much better

yoga 18-12-2019 10:54 AM

Viva Italy!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capo (Post 484390)
Yoga!
Win 10 is much better

:OK:
Mille grazie caro Capo!

Once more time THANK YOU for recommendation to play

Pillars of eternity 1&2. Real masterpieces..

Cosa sarebbe AB senza il Maestro Capo?
(What would AB be without Master Capo?)
Nothing and nothing


:smile2:

yoga 18-12-2019 11:12 AM

conservative yog
 
:smile2:


Thank You very much, mates, for Yr competent advises.

You are very generous..

In fact i am little conservative person.

But i have 30 days to fatal date.

Scatty 18-12-2019 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 484392)
In fact i am little conservative person.

But i have 30 days to fatal date.

Don't you just wish back Windows XP :p
Anyway, yes, I gotta also agree with Capo that Windows 10 has it's good points over Windows 7, maybe the 8/8.1 one as well. It's newer, for one, and many drivers are defaulting to Windows 10 at least nowadays. It's stable as well, unless it introduces some nasty bug with some recent update (as it did a few times).


Now for the contras - like mentioned before, at least the feature updates are forced, smaller ones can be disabled via Windows troubleshooter tool, downloaded here (scroll further down to Choose your automatic updates) - if you don't want a particular driver forced upon you, or just an update which just came out and online news clearly say it's buggy.
Another contra is that quite a few services, at least in build 1803 and newer, will be grayed out for you in services.msc - you can not start them, you can not stop them, or set them to automatic or anything. Just greyed out, even if your account is Administrator. That includes the Windows Time Service, which for that very reason simply does not synchronize the clock on your computer with any server - as the Time service it on Manual, can't be changed to anything, and doesn't start with anything. At least you can manually adjust the time if you get to it through the classic Control Panel.


Just so you know what to expect with Windows 10. It's not bad per say, but there are a few unpleasant things with it, where you get no choice.

Smiling Spectre 23-12-2019 06:26 AM

Win8 is far inferior to Win10. And they have forced updates as well, so is not better even in that aspect. Pro version of Win10 allows you to install updates in your pace, so if you can acquire that - I recommend it.

Smiling Spectre 23-12-2019 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scatty (Post 484394)
Another contra is that quite a few services, at least in build 1803 and newer, will be grayed out for you in services.msc - you can not start them, you can not stop them, or set them to automatic or anything. Just greyed out, even if your account is Administrator. That includes the Windows Time Service, which for that very reason simply does not synchronize the clock on your computer with any server - as the Time service it on Manual, can't be changed to anything, and doesn't start with anything. At least you can manually adjust the time if you get to it through the classic Control Panel.

I checked my Win10 Pro - not confirmed. Granted, I have 1903, but I didn't found "blocked" services with the first glance. Time service at least can be manipulated as usual.

Mystvan 23-12-2019 11:30 PM

I do not know if it is pertinent information... :dunno:

One good and bad thing about Windows 10 would be when restoring an Operating System Image using Acronis True Image, as it would be a more complex process than on Windows 7.

I have no experience using Acronis True Image with Windows 10. I only know what I was told by someone experienced on the topic.

However, I have experience using Acronis True Image with Windows 7 and apparently, the Operating System Image Restore process is much simpler.

Some people say it would be important that when formatting the Hard Disk to Install Windows 7, there are 02 Partitions, one of which would be Hidden Partition.

I assume this Important Hidden Partition would be needed to store essential files and data primarily for Windows 7 Ultimate or Business (and Professional), that allow you to Restore an Operating System Image. :dunno:

It would be something similar with Apple, which backup by storing the Tablet / Smartphone iOS Operating System Image in the cloud (iCloud).

On Windows 7, you can “cheat” using Acronis Disk Director to eliminate this Windows 7 Hidden Partition before installing Windows 7. I have never had problems doing this since I have always used Third Party Program like Acronis True Image. *shrug*

And on branded PCs like Dell, Compaq have a Hidden Partition that also allows the User to do Original Factory Restore, Image Restore on a Date, etc.

However, it seems that this “cheat” using Acronis Disk Director to eliminate this Windows 10 Hidden Partition is not possible anymore. Because Windows 10 does not allow this “cheat”. Thus, any and all Hidden Partitions must be kept on Windows 10. *shrug*

Another thing, for some reason, looks like Windows 10 has 02 Hidden Partitions. :dunno: Thus, at the time of Operating System Image Restore, you would need to restore the 03 Partitions (being 02 Hidden Partitions) correctly.

I would need to analyze, or rather identify, the 03 Partitions, and then Restore the Operating System Image. Thus, on Windows 10, the process is a bit more hard or complex than on Windows 7. *shrug*

Scatty 24-12-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre (Post 484418)
I checked my Win10 Pro - not confirmed. Granted, I have 1903, but I didn't found "blocked" services with the first glance. Time service at least can be manipulated as usual.

Might be something on my end, although I'm positive I've not played around with any of services, some of them just became entirely greyed out after some update or another, long time ago, meaning any button to Start, Stop, set to Manual or Automatic dropdown, all greyed out and not clickable.
I searched Google thoroughly about that issue as well, but couldn't find any obvious solution anywhere, while actually it seemed many people had those issues as well.



Didn't have anything of such problems on my previous (burned out) laptop with Windows 8.0, and I had that one for about 3 years. Only thing I can do for now is push that issue to the Microsoft and Windows 10 end.
So dunno what's the deal with that /shrug.
I'm on 1903 as well btw., it's just that the issue started when I was still on 1803.

Smiling Spectre 28-12-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystvan (Post 484420)
Another thing, for some reason, looks like Windows 10 has 02 Hidden Partitions. :dunno: Thus, at the time of Operating System Image Restore, you would need to restore the 03 Partitions (being 02 Hidden Partitions) correctly.

Not confirmed.
http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/att...1&d=1577524970

Win 10 happily live without any hidden partitions.

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Originally Posted by Scatty (Post 484422)
Didn't have anything of such problems on my previous (burned out) laptop with Windows 8.0, and I had that one for about 3 years. Only thing I can do for now is push that issue to the Microsoft and Windows 10 end.
So dunno what's the deal with that /shrug.
I'm on 1903 as well btw., it's just that the issue started when I was still on 1803.

I can guess only some right management problem. But it's too complicated issue with Win8/10, so I have no easy solution for you. Except obvious one: try to check disk integrity with chkdsk, then base system image with Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth, and at last, the individual files with sfc. (All that done from command line with Administrator privileges). Sorry, I am not proficient enough to give you direct registry links.

yoga 14-02-2020 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystvan (Post 484420)
I do not know if it is pertinent information... :dunno:

One good and bad thing about Windows 10 would be when restoring an Operating System Image using Acronis True Image, as it would be a more complex process than on Windows 7.

I have no experience using Acronis True Image with Windows 10. I only know what I was told by someone experienced on the topic.

However, I have experience using Acronis True Image with Windows 7 and apparently, the Operating System Image Restore process is much simpler.

Some people say it would be important that when formatting the Hard Disk to Install Windows 7, there are 02 Partitions, one of which would be Hidden Partition.

I assume this Important Hidden Partition would be needed to store essential files and data primarily for Windows 7 Ultimate or Business (and Professional), that allow you to Restore an Operating System Image. :dunno:

It would be something similar with Apple, which backup by storing the Tablet / Smartphone iOS Operating System Image in the cloud (iCloud).

On Windows 7, you can “cheat” using Acronis Disk Director to eliminate this Windows 7 Hidden Partition before installing Windows 7. I have never had problems doing this since I have always used Third Party Program like Acronis True Image. *shrug*

And on branded PCs like Dell, Compaq have a Hidden Partition that also allows the User to do Original Factory Restore, Image Restore on a Date, etc.

However, it seems that this “cheat” using Acronis Disk Director to eliminate this Windows 10 Hidden Partition is not possible anymore. Because Windows 10 does not allow this “cheat”. Thus, any and all Hidden Partitions must be kept on Windows 10. *shrug*

Another thing, for some reason, looks like Windows 10 has 02 Hidden Partitions. :dunno: Thus, at the time of Operating System Image Restore, you would need to restore the 03 Partitions (being 02 Hidden Partitions) correctly.

I would need to analyze, or rather identify, the 03 Partitions, and then Restore the Operating System Image. Thus, on Windows 10, the process is a bit more hard or complex than on Windows 7. *shrug*

:smile2:

Sorry, sorry, OFF.

Please, may some German speaking mate, translate the word Drakensang?
Danke, thanks, spacibo. I think Draken= Dragon, sang=song but i am going wrong direction.. :OK:
.. In fact Drakensang The Dark eye is real Masterpiece.
I am 2 minutes before fatal battle..
130 passed games already.

yoga 14-02-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by yoga (Post 484581)
:smile2:

Sorry, sorry, OFF.

Please, may some German speaking mate, translate the word Drakensang?
Danke, thanks, spacibo. I think Draken= Dragon, sang=song but i am going wrong direction.. :OK:
.. In fact Drakensang The Dark eye is real Masterpiece.
I am 2 minutes before fatal battle..
130 passed games already.

Finish
:smile2:

Smiling Spectre 14-02-2020 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 484581)
.. In fact Drakensang The Dark eye is real Masterpiece.

Not very commonly known fact: first Dark Eye games trilogy was made in Germany in 1992. But as Das Schwarze Auge was not very known in the all other world, it was re-branded outside of Germany as "Realms of Arkania", if you ever heard this name. ;)

Scatty 16-02-2020 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 484581)
Please, may some German speaking mate, translate the word Drakensang?

Drakensang is not a real German word or combination, as such, but you're correct, sang is a part-variation of Gesang, translated as song, and Draken is a specifically game-oriented variation of the word Drache - dragon. Basically, it's the name of the end-game area in the game, mountain Drakensang, and a name for that place in the German Dark Eye universe.

yoga 03-05-2020 05:06 PM

Ja?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scatty (Post 484593)
Drakensang is not a real German word or combination, as such, but you're correct, sang is a part-variation of Gesang, translated as song, and Draken is a specifically game-oriented variation of the word Drache - dragon. Basically, it's the name of the end-game area in the game, mountain Drakensang, and a name for that place in the German Dark Eye universe.

:D
Thanks, dear Scatty!
:3:
Hast Sie dieses Spiel gespielt?
:D

yoga 03-05-2020 05:17 PM

Clouds of Xeen is the best
 
How are you good AB people?

In those times of plague.

I would ask those of you who have played the games Might and Magic 10 and Risen 2 which one to start first.

I am 5 minutes before the finish of wonderful MM8 game of the Cunningham series.

I did MM5, 6, 7, 8-now, 9.

:3::D:ph34r:

Scatty 04-05-2020 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 484861)
:D
Thanks, dear Scatty!
:3:
Hast Sie dieses Spiel gespielt?
:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 484862)
How are you good AB people?

In those times of plague.

I would ask those of you who have played the games Might and Magic 10 and Risen 2 which one to start first.

I am 5 minutes before the finish of wonderful MM8 game of the Cunningham series.

I did MM5, 6, 7, 8-now, 9.

:3::D:ph34r:

Yes, I've played both Drakensang and Drakensang 2: The River of Time with all their addons (GoG ♥), although I stopped playing the second game somewhere around the endgame, to be honest it just became kinda bit boring.
They're both moderately good games, although the replay value is rather low - the variety of things happening in both games is close to non-existant, different character class choices being the main difference to have fun with re-starting for a bit. The games just aren't as big as some other games, and they're very linear, not open-world but constricted area location based, and their colorful-cheerful, bit comic-like graphic presentation and music score wasn't exactly my cup of tea.
Besides the story in both games resembled only barely the serious & gloom world of Black Eye as it originally is, and couldn't really get a grip of suspension on me. Realms of Arkania games were the ones which kept that world feeling true to the original back then, but Drakensang had barely of that feeling.


Doing not bad, Germany had it easier with the m-m-m my Corona than many other places in the world, so it could be worse.

Capo 04-05-2020 04:53 PM

Hello, Risen 2 is shorter than M&MX :max:

Smiling Spectre 09-05-2020 03:45 PM

I played Might & Magic X, and while they tried to be close to M&M3-5 scheme, they made a tragic error with outdoor scales. So 30 km out of you looks like 100 m, and every tower, castle and mountain feels like scaled down toy.

The inside of dungeons is feeling quite right (just because it's not enough space to check the scales), but some more opened cities suffers from the same problem too.

Mechanically-wise, game is quite ok.

EricaR 13-08-2020 07:39 AM

I'd be interested in Windows 10 if there weren't frequent updates..It's very annoying

yoga 02-10-2020 03:21 AM

SOS -- Dark Souls Remastered
 
Hi, good men.

Please, help me.

Asylum Demon
Asylum Demon is the first boss encounter of Dark Souls.
I have to kill this demon.
Some INet wizards say:
Easy, yoga. Only 4-5 fireballs and he is out!
Easy maybe if i know how to cast fireball..

My problem is not difficult, but unsolvable at the moment: I play, but I don't know how to use a fireball.
Which button or combination of buttons to press?
I read, I read the instructions, but they are not for PC!
Damn it!!
Thanks in advance to all who took the time and help for your slave.
:smile2:

Smiling Spectre 02-10-2020 07:58 AM

Poor Yoga.

Sorry, I didn't play DS yet.

And welcome back. :)

Capo 02-10-2020 04:11 PM

You have an e-mail :OK:

yoga 03-10-2020 05:31 AM

Правда, I was the poorest man before 3 months
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre (Post 485239)
Poor Yoga.

Sorry, I didn't play DS yet.

And welcome back. :)

:smile2:
Здравствуй, дорогой SS,
(Hi, dear SS)
do you know who used this abrev.. during WW2?
Starting with E.
Btw do you play still this game LOGII?
When you finish it start another many games.
For example Dark souls remastered.
Ha ha
Слава, слава Матушка РОССИИ!!
(Glory, glory Mother RUSSIA!!)

Dearest Capo, I respect yr opinion because you are my game Master.

But perche I has to run around and around boss demon trying to go behind and hit till 4-5 Fireballs (Palla di Fuoco) are pretty good?
Yes, your tactic is very good. But you know me I am lazy gamer.

I need very simple answer:
Stupid yoga, press combination X+Y (for example) to cast Fireball and basta.
Having this advice I will bring you water all my life..

PC: All instructions are for PlayStation, Android and like. Not for PC

:OK:

yoga 04-10-2020 03:45 PM

Weak yoga give up today.. shame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 485244)
:smile2:
Здравствуй, дорогой SS,
(Hi, dear SS)
do you know who used this abrev.. during WW2?
Starting with E.
Btw do you play still this game LOGII?
When you finish it start another many games.
For example Dark souls remastered.
Ha ha
Слава, слава Матушка РОССИИ!!
(Glory, glory Mother RUSSIA!!)

Dearest Capo, I respect yr opinion because you are my game Master.

But perche I has to run around and around boss demon trying to go behind and hit till 4-5 Fireballs (Palla di Fuoco) are pretty good?
Yes, your tactic is very good. But you know me I am lazy gamer.

I need very simple answer:
Stupid yoga, press combination X+Y (for example) to cast Fireball and basta.
Having this advice I will bring you water all my life..

PC: All instructions are for PlayStation, Android and like. Not for PC

:OK:

:max:
Well, well.

I decided to give up.

DSR is not bad game but i do not like games which after 5 minutes send me before strong boss.
More over the game options Save and Restore are terrible.

Maybe Might and Magic X Legacy is better i hope.

What do you think, SS?

:smile2:

Smiling Spectre 05-10-2020 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 485244)
Btw do you play still this game LOGII?

As you would expect - no. Not for last 5 years or more. ;)

But no one noticed, and I don't have any desire to keep actual the info that needed to no one. :)

Quote:

Maybe Might and Magic X Legacy is better i hope.

What do you think, SS?
It depends on what do you want to get from the game. Worse than LOG2 in my opinion, for example. ;)

Capo 05-10-2020 03:56 PM

Told you that DS is not for everyone :max:

kemo 05-10-2020 09:34 PM

Dark Souls... is that the game responsible for memes like this?


yoga 11-10-2020 01:36 AM

Polite question
 
Hello,

RPG wizards, what do you think about the Korean game Lineage?

Is it worth it?

Thanks for your time and help.

:smile2:

yoga 13-10-2020 06:49 AM

Poor game
 
Well, i decide that this game is not my favorite at all.

Pls, note this is MHO only.

Sorry.

Smiling Spectre 15-10-2020 09:48 AM

You are too fast. :)

So far, I found only three online games that suit my tastes:

- Kingdom of Loathing. Distant relative of the old MUD "Legend of the Red Dragon". Gameplay is quite simplified: you have limited amount of turns per day, and your global task is to kill the Big Boss, ascend and get more skills and items, rinse and repeat.

Plus side there is the community, sheer amount of content and good writing.

- Gems of War. Simple match-3 battle in vein of old good Puzzle Quest (and from the same authors), only without plot, but with infinite amount of different units.

Nothing too much, but it can be played for free (really free, I mean, it's not required to pay for progress), and have enough mechanics to allow my brain juice ticking - and quite fast to play, so I can spent 15-20 minutes per session.

- Path of Exile. The best that happened with Diablo-like games from the times of Diablo 2 (and much, much better than D2).

Can be played _almost_ free. If you will never buy the extra inventory tabs, endgame gameplay became quite cluttered with all this good items that haven't any place to put into. Refreshes each "season" (roughly half-year) with new mechanics and items.

Everything else I seen either too expensive, or looks free - until you hit soft wall of infinite time for progress.

yoga 30-12-2020 03:59 PM

Path of Exile - have to play
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre (Post 485277)
You are too fast. :)

So far, I found only three online games that suit my tastes:

- Kingdom of Loathing. Distant relative of the old MUD "Legend of the Red Dragon". Gameplay is quite simplified: you have limited amount of turns per day, and your global task is to kill the Big Boss, ascend and get more skills and items, rinse and repeat.

Plus side there is the community, sheer amount of content and good writing.

- Gems of War. Simple match-3 battle in vein of old good Puzzle Quest (and from the same authors), only without plot, but with infinite amount of different units.

Nothing too much, but it can be played for free (really free, I mean, it's not required to pay for progress), and have enough mechanics to allow my brain juice ticking - and quite fast to play, so I can spent 15-20 minutes per session.

- Path of Exile. The best that happened with Diablo-like games from the times of Diablo 2 (and much, much better than D2).

Can be played _almost_ free. If you will never buy the extra inventory tabs, endgame gameplay became quite cluttered with all this good items that haven't any place to put into. Refreshes each "season" (roughly half-year) with new mechanics and items.

Everything else I seen either too expensive, or looks free - until you hit soft wall of infinite time for progress.

:smile2:

OK.

What do you think about Diablo 3, 4?

Some russian game wizards stated that D3 is abs. bad. True?

Pls,tell me have one to pay money to Blizzard browser to play both above games?

TY for yr time/help.

Smiling Spectre 30-12-2020 05:13 PM

You cannot play D4, as it not exists yet.

I heard good things about D3... but it looks just as Path of Exile, only paid and with less variative mechanics. If not "paid" part, I would check it, but as it is, I can live without it.

Scatty 05-01-2021 12:33 PM

Never played Diablo 3, but I've looked around quite a bit for recensions about it. Most of them agree that the game is quite good, but never reached neither popularity of Diablo 2 - LoD back when that was very popular, nor the actual gameplay fun of it. Also Blizzard seems to have done some questionable things with the game, which many people didn't like, and which didn't help the popularity of D3 as well as it otherwise could, online shop (removed a while ago again) being one of the things.
As for D4, I agree with SS - just go Path of Exile, don't think you can go wrong with that one.

Mystvan 13-01-2021 04:20 PM

Ugh! I really do not have many expectations, but I sincerely hope that Blizzard will be able to release the last Diablo (Diablo 4) to conclude the saga. I think it would be worse and inglorious for the series if the Developer leaves the saga inconclusive and open... :dunno: :oh:

andy0087 25-02-2021 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoga (Post 485270)
Hello,

RPG wizards, what do you think about the Korean game Lineage?

Is it worth it?

Thanks for your time and help.

:smile2:

Have been playing Lineage2 for so long time. When I was like 10-16. It was awesome time spending. And sometimes I even didn't go hanging out with my friends. So if you want to be playing at home all the time answer is yes. :smile2:


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