Elder Scrolls - Daggerfall, The
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one of very little bethesda's products that are worth playing |
A small, optional tip for the installation. Instead of choosing the "huge" install size, as the guide by Bethesda says, choose the minimum one.
Also if you do this, when you apply the patch it will install a new big file on your virtual hard drive. You can move it into the virtual CD, making sure you overwrite the likewise called un-patched file that's already there. I have tested this for a long time now and the game works the same. You'll save some disc space and there are no disadvantages whatsoever. Since the virtual CD is actually in your real hard drive just like the virtual HD, there's no performance advantage in bigger installation sizes. On the other hand the patch duplicates that file because it assumes it can't modify a file on a read-only CD, but since that's actually on your real HD you can write on it. The game will find it the same. |
I never managed to finish this game. Very hard :cry:
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My heart-felt thanks to Bethesda for kindly releasing old titles for free. I wish all game companies were as considerate.
This is an excellent game, though, IMHO, Morrowind is better (and is the best of the series so far). It is huge, flexible, expansive... The only main downside of the game is the fact that most dungeons are both huge AND random, and sometimes the quest-object is stuck in a non-accessible location due to a bug, and you have to give up the quest after spending hours on searching the dungeon in vain. |
Cool, might get around to playing this sometime.
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Just my 2 cents. |
I already mentioned this back then when the freeware announcement came, but I'm really looking forward to DaggerXL. It's coming along very nicely, and is simply awesome :) Be warned, you need a fairly powerful computer for it (if one can classify a single core Athlon as one, because that can already run it).
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Played this for some very short time when it became freeware, I just can't force myself to seriously play any older Elder Scrolls game, after Morrowind & Oblivion it just seems pointless. :cry:
Maybe this DaggerXL will change that some day. :) |
Cheat
Create a custom class, and max all attributes out until you have lots of negative points to distribute. Then press the U key and presto, the points are back to 0, you can have stats as high as you want--up to the starting maximum. (It works too during character creation after you've picked a class, but you can't make it work in your favour then because you can't get the points below zero.)
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I hope DaggerXL will be more than just "alternative to dosbox". I really hope they are gonna restore missing content. From what I recall, there are stuff like disguises, deeper politics (including countries attacking each others, which would start sieges) and prostitutes that got cut.
Here's also a good alternative download place. http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/...erfallSetup_EN I couldnt figure out head or tails how to get Daggerfall to work, even with clear instructions and help from someone else. This is a basic installations which install Daggerfall, ready-to-play and patched (official and fan-made). Comes with dosbox and gives shortcuts for immediate use. No hassle or editing. |
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Seriously, I think Skynet was fantastic, quite ahead of its time. I bought the game when it first came out, but almost no one I know ever heard of it. |
Thanks so much for the link TC, i was about to force someone to give me clear and easy instructions to installing the game cause i had no idea how to make it work, i couldn't even get the Patch to work ><
a green bat thing in he privateers hold keeps killing me. Also, is there a way so the game only appears in DosBox and not in the full window via the install that TC provided? Also, I SEE MALE GENATALIA |
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Personally I find the interface and movement of Daggerfall to be a bit too clunky for my taste, but ither than that it's good and pretty unique game.
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Thanks for the link to DaggerXL, looks like a good project!
One of my favourite exploits is the random loot, you can save/load and get different stuff. Worked better in Arena though, the level system in DF means you're unlikely to get top gear early on. |
i'd like to see someone rebuild daggerfall as a mod for morrowind or oblivion.
i played daggerfall some months ago and the second enemy i faced already killed me, because somehow i couldnt use melee weapons and my mana was used up way too soon. also the controls didnt work great. maybe i just didnt know the controls, but thats because there isnt a manual included, so can someone please find a manual and upload it here? |
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Maybe a link to UESP's Daggerfall page on our gamepage would be nice. If Beth dont want their manuals laying around at repdocs or any other site, then UESP provides a great deal of valuable info on gameplay.
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Just making the map itself would take an extremely long amount of time! also calm down Dos Raider, it was a simple question, no need to blow a fuse over it. |
w00t, i am questing, though, some people won't talk to me at all for some reason, which is sad, because i went in a house for Sale in Longing, daggarfall and there was a naked lady that i couldn't talk to :(
also i walked into a bank and some thief attacked me, why is that? I didn't do anything wrong.. |
The fact that you can't "interact" with all these naked women is disappointing.
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http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Reputation |
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Too bad I don't remember the name of the website and I can't find it. :( It was small but very select, there was some other very curious content. |
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Here you go :) |
It is amazing the amount of time people have spent around this game, and the volume of lore and rumours it has generated.
For me, it is one of my favourite games, and probably the one I've played for the longest time (maybe World of Warcraft), but taking a look at the links you guys provided, it is clear that I didn't discover many of its features. Maybe I'll try to install it again, as I still have the original. I hope the guide provided by TheChosen works fine, as I remember it was quite a boring process to set it for running under XP. PD: My main character, the one I finished the game with (no cheating) was, I think, a level 28 knight. |
Im having trouble running the game. After following all the instructions for installation i finally type "dagger" but it says "ERROR: looks like you inserted the wrong CD".
I have no idea why it says this, iv followed all the instructions and have mounted the dfcd folder as my cdrom. The only changes i made was selecting soundblaster pro instead of autodetecting but the tests past and i dont think this shouldv been a problem. Any suggestions? Thanks |
Anyone know if Daggerfall is like Morrowind, where you can join one of the political factions? I remember joining House Hlaluu (or however you spell it) in morrowind and being sent on a political mission, but then my HD died and i got a new pc and didn't pklay morrowind after, but i always like covert-ops political stuff, ti's fun!
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Quest from guilds and temples are generated from randomly selected templates with random names, places, NPCs and dungeons, just like every other quest outside the Main Quest. The only specially interesting quests are the ones in the Main Quest, but those are hard-coded. |
I fondly remember spending a summer playing this game. The spell creation in Daggerfall was the most robust of all the Elder Scroll games, as the spell creation systems in the later games were limited to a small variety of effects. I would remember creating a teleport spell, setting my target inside a store and then wait till night outside. Once it was night, I would cast my spell and get inside without needing to break in and I could take everything. Money and items were not a problem after that. :)
Also, if you take the time to read the various books, you can learn about certain rituals that fall on certain dates each year. FAQ's also have the information but it was a nice little touch most people didn't pick up on, and dates in general were removed from future titles. |
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I should really get into this again. I played it a bit when it was first announced as freeware. But I screwed up the main quest and then lost all interest. Still the size of the world never ceases to amaze me, 15000 freaking towns.
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I hate magic in most RPGs (yes I'm weird). So I created a custom class that's both unable to cast (without items that is), and greatly resistant to enemy magic:
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...ustomclass.png That took a lot of needless frustration out of the experience. :) |
yea to be honest im never a mage or magic thing in any RPG game, i HATE magic! But if it'll help me in my thieving en-devours, then Ill use it :D
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Dear Fubb, without magics YOU can not make a single step in Ravenlof 1 & 2.. Believe me, I just finish this saga. Ty.
A simple question of simple yoga: --I just DL the game DF.. Before start can You be so kind to advise me for some vital tings. Ty v. much.. |
This game is hard.. :cry:
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The game is very hard..
I just started and meet problem to kill simple skeleton warrior. I am using magics mainly, being Mage.. Still I am asking for Clue book link and maps. Now I am in some dungeon walking up-down as real idiot.. Lol ha ha yoga :OK: |
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On the contrary. I find it incredibly easy playing as a strait up hack and slash warrior. The only hard part is finding my way around the dungeons.
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He meant it's difficult playing a pure mage, not a pure warrior.
It's a piece of cake, anyway wait until you start coming across ancient lyches. One crazy thing about magic in this game is that it has no casting time requirement, if an enemy can cast several fireballs it will cast them in under a second. I HATE magic. :( I hate RPGs where you just need magic or else you're toast. I quit playing Baldur's Gate II once every enemy was casting invulnerability at the start of every combat... ¬¬ Too bad, I liked my character, a female two-axe welding berserker with Charisma 18 called Dee Dee. <3 The 3D dungeon maps in Daggerfall were a good idea conceptually, but a bad one in practice at that time, specially considering how garbled they look in 320x200. I quit playing Daggerfall without finishing it because beating those huge dungeons with those crazy maps was starting to feel like work, and because of the super-powerful magic-casting lyches and vampires I had started to come across. I guess in the long run you have to find some kind of magic or items or potions that give you resistance to spells. |
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Well, well
OK.
Many mates advise me to create Custom class character and I will follow this instruction. ..Still I will play little more as a pure Mage, because I found balance to kill the creatures. Yes, still Sceleton warrior killed me, but a good magic Shock and/or Snowflake will destroy it. .. In fact I use a very simple tactic yet: Magics and run away. Relax, pump my characteristics and again.. Still no meeting with magic caster enemies, but I am in the very beginning.. Well, rats, bats, thiefs and archers are no more problems for brave yog. ..I beg You, friends, for simple Clue book. Ty yoga - the brave Mage (I like the Mages, because in my last game Ravenloft 2: The Stone Profhet....the Mage was the only alive hero after the terrible attack of Ahnketpot in final battle).. :smile2: |
There is a walkthrough here, if that is what you mean by a clue book,
Walkthrough Found Here However alot of the fun from these games comes from not knowing what is coming so don't read too much unless you have too. :OK: |
Walkthrough
Yes, walkthrough is same Clue book.
TY, Darth Vader 86, YOU very kind. I will use this book and maps. I need a partner or comrade to play DF together.. Cold German beer and more.. :hihihi: |
SOS SOS
Pls, help me!
Where is my fail: I am unable to take any object(s) from the floor or in corps of killed enemies. I tryed Grab mode and Steal mode pressing left or right button. Last moment: I am in a hall with 7 skulls-like candles and a table. When I press the table, some cabinets in the hall angle moved, opened weapons or like. I try to take these ones, crouching, jumping - in vain.. Rats!! Maybe You know howto.. Grateful yog Ah, forget to inform that I am custom made character. Yes, the Mage is very weak in the physical contact combat. But now my magic points are just 30, in Mage class were 130. If I have my team of 4 members - Mage/Fighter, Cleric/Paladin, Thief and Troll from Ravenloft 2... ha ha ha |
Who plays DF?
Hope not me only.
.. Report: Custom Hero, some like Fighter/Mage Level - 20 Grade - Champion Missions acc. - 8 Mainly Easy. I very carefully choose offered mission, because there are some very hard.. Magics points - 42. All 3 magics want - 40, 21,20 points. So I am able to repeat Snowflake magic. Money - 5400 golds Weapon - 3 pieces State - Will start training, but it is 1800 golds for Short Axe Q: Can I steal some weapon , without be arrested? Howto? QQ: What to do with these notes, which some invisible sends me? Why some of citizens answered non corectly? Ty Have a good time and Let the Power be with You.. yog :OK: |
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the inventory is really difficult to use. i already poposed to make it a mod for morrowind, which would work. what i like is the combat, where you can assign from where to chop... atm i will stick to morrowind, as oblivion was getting boring way too fast. i havent come far enough to say if there are children present in daggerfall, but i know they were missing in MW and Oblivion. |
DaggerXL
children present in daggerfall
I am level 30 and still no children seen in Daggerfall. ..DaggerXL is very colorfull and nice. But still demo version. DF is huge game. There are 227 quests in the game.. My problem: I dunno who and where will give me MAIN and required quests? YOU know? yoga aka Master in Fighter Guild :hihihi: |
Not finding any help online on how to run this
I noticed no one answered the person who was unable to get the game mounted in DOSbox. I'm having the same trouble.
Have managed to get the install and update to work fine. However both manual "command line" running and "drag and drop" onto DOSbox returns the no cd message. I still have all the original material and having the original CD in the D: drive and mounting that as a CD drive in DOSbox doesn't seem to work. mounting DFCD directory doesn't either. What am I missing? I suppose I could just reinstall from my old CD but don't remember ever getting that to work as I have had the urge to play it again before. |
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Drag 'n drop mounts only one folder as HD, you need to use commands to mount the CD also. Make sure the folder path you're passing to the mount commands is the real one, not virtual. For example if you mount the game folder as virtual C:\, still you can't use "C:\DFCD" to mount the CD, use the real path. Place those paths between quotation marks. When mounting the CD, make sure you pass the additional arguments "-t cdrom -label Daggerfall" (without quotation marks) after the folder path. If you want to play with your original CD, you still have to install it from within DOSBox. (You'll also want to use the patch after you're done.) Mount the folder you want the game to be installed as virtual drive C; mount the CD as virtual drive D (with "-t cdrom -label Daggerfall"); run the installation program in the CD now mounted as D:, choosing C:\DAGGER as the destination directory. Make sure you have "memsize=32", you can enter in the command line Code:
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Please Help!
I followed the instructions for installation word for word. I made no mistakes and the entire process went smoothly... up until the point that i typed "DAGGER" to run the game. At this point it says "Oops, looks like u inserted the wrong disk".
Iv mounted all the necessary drives and i feel i have a good understanding of how dosbox works as i have used it for years. I also did the memsize thing. Also, i know the correct drive was chosen for the "CD" because i installed it with no problems. Sorry if i cant be more specific but i usually dont have problems and as far as im concerned I'v followed the instructions perfectly. Its really strange that it fails at the final moment. And really frustrating!! Any help will be greatly appreciated. Im dying to try this game. |
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file is pointed to the proper drive letter and path where your Daggerfall CD is, then run daggerfall with the fallowing command: Fall.exe z.cfg" This should work, it did for me. |
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Thank you very much that worked for me too :) |
Odd, I had heard that before, but dagger.exe works for me. :mhh:
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z.cfg paths go where?
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My Daggerfall files are in C:\DOS\DAGGER and the CD is in C:\DOS\DFCD. Could you tell me what I should type into the z.cfg file? Thank you in advance. |
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*snuggles Daggerfall*
god i played this game so much when i was younger, so much to do! |
daggerfall has detected the error 0
well, at least it wasn't a long error code... oh and now it says fatal error, delete and reinstall. fun |
For Yoga
Well some tips for ya:
In custom creation of ur character, if u insist on using magic, u should pick the ability "3x INT in spellpoints" means, ur total intellect score miltiplied by 3 is ur total spellpoints, definite must for a caster, even if ur not mainly casting dmg spells. Few other things in charcater creation, tak as many disadvantaging abilities as u can, prohibited weapons, materials, even maybe weakness to paralysis or so, if u will be caster, then it won't cause u any troubles. Note: The more limiting disadvantages u will take, the more advantages u can take, in a matter of game difficulty. Playing a non-spellcaster in DF, well, sucks, not having ability to easily loot stores, levitate or defend urself against Liches/ Ancient vamps, makes the game almost infinshable. Note: Always when i hear the specific sound of Vamp ancinet, a shiver comes across my spine, as this creature is prolly most powerful in game and just without ability to shield urself with a spell absorb/deflect (u pretty much need both) u gonna die in a second, even with those spells on u can die, since he has MUCH mana, to fill up ur mana and still killing u, in better case he kills himself off ur deflect. In fact having much gold doesn't quite limit u, in case u don't need to buy houses or ships, without which u can live too =), on the other hand, looting shops makes u find some very good armor/weapons, in the sens of material quality, which u r very unlikely to find on corpses. Easisest way to loot stores is to create a spell "Open" with the least power so it costs few spellpoints to cast, since the doors in town don't have any difficulty rating on them, u always success in opening them with the weakest open, unlikely in dungeons, where u can just bash them. As for maps of dungeons, main quest related dungs have hard pattern on them, UESP wiki should provide them. As for other side quest dungeons, they're always random, but with a certain pattern in them too, i think that was on UESP wiki too. For mor questions, I'll check basck every now and then. G'day 2 ya all. EDIT: Later in game, it's almost a complete must to have "Teleport" spell, coz if u stumble on a very large dungeon, without having anchor at the entrance, it may take u a shi*loads of time finding the exit, event tho u can rotate the map and look for the exit. |
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Something about training skills:
To train runnig is pretty obvious to run always =) To train jumping, go under door, and press J (jump), if ur standing correctly, then u should't see urself jumping, but u can see ur stamina rapidly falling, coz u actually jump constantly (best done in tavern). To train magical disciplines (mysticism, restoration, destruction, etc.) create a spell of each of those with the lowest manacost (example: restore fatigue with lowest magnitude 1-2, im not sure now if 1-1 is possible, then go to tavern, spend ur whole mana on casting it and rest, repeat for how long u want/with any magic school u want) NOTE: to train destruction u need to create a distance spell, if u create a "touch" range spell, u will have no target to launch it on (in case it's done in tavern, which is best), and again with the least cost of spellpoints, best works with damage fatigue. To train weapons ofc go nad hack'n'slash some abominations. To train weapons u do not use as main, the best is to go to castles in major cities, it's a dungeon like location with many guards in it, which u can kill. (best done in a castle of Wayrest or Sentinel, im not quite sure which one, but the guards there do not defend, so u can go hack'n'slash for how long u want, simply keep re-entering) To train pickpocketing, find a bat or rat, go to steal mode and pickpocket on them for how long u want. |
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Thank You for your detailed and experienced answer concerning Daggerfall. Yes, I play this game day and night and have some progress. I am Nord - 31 level, well trained and experienced. Because I am lazy player I did not create magic but simply buy from some magicians. About 30 magics are in my possesion. .. But it is a dark night in small Bulgaria, yoga is tired and is bed time. Soon I will give more info 'bout my game and ask for some hint. :hello: yoga I see you are experienced gamer reading yr advises in Wizardry VII - Crusaders.. Following the smart Scatty I played above game 2 hours only and stopped. OK.. |
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Hi, dear Wardencz,
Thank You for all the hints, y provided so kindly. - I will continue with my gaming. It so nice to meet comrade in this hard game. Well, My gold is about 130 000 pieces. My level is 31. Nord. My Int is 156 My magics: Shock, Wizard rend,Far silence,Resist cold,Resist fire, Resist shock,Wizard fire,Light,Orc strenght,Troll blood Cure disease,Sleep,Paralyse,Spell reflection,Spell resistance,Jumping,Resist poison,Spell shield,Ice ball Fireball,Free action, Invisibility, Levitate, Recall, Open, Balune Autidor, Heal, Slowfalling, Chamelleon I finished -Privateer Hood -Lady Brisienna -Mordiah Wedding -King of Worms - Soul of Lich The present task is -Prince Lhotun of Sentinel had asked me to investigate the dead of his bro B'oth, who was supposing kidnapped by the Underking years ago- OK. I am around Castle Sentinel, walking up-down and asking every citizen about any news for B'oth. The answers: ..to receive public funeral.. ..B'oth likes books more than swords.. .. came down with fever and die.. ...scholar prince? Well, no one to give me some note or clue to go to some cave nearby? It is my problem.. Any idea? Any help is welcome.. Ty for the help and time in advance.. Grateful yoga :ph34r: :OK: PS: Still no meeting with Vampire. Thanks God!! All good hearded gamers are invited kindly to help stupid yoga.. |
Drunkard yoga
Hi, all good AB players,
How Y doing? Nice. Bravo.. A little help for yoga , pls. - OK. Level 31. Well trained with many magics. Task: Lhotum prince missing brorher - B'oth. I have no problem with game progress. But.. You know, always has one BUT - xa xa My But is My hero started moving as drunked russian Cossack. I swear - not a simple alchohol drop.. Well, I direct my hero for exampe to Nord. He refuses and going to East.. This is very confusing esp. in cave - I do not enter the doors, walking as idiot round door. I check myself - healthy status. No virus, nothing! Maybe some players ( hunvagy) will support yoga. Thanks indeed. :headslap: |
Hmm, maybe you got your movement keys re-mapped in the game so when you press UP arrow to go forward, you slide instead to left / right? Look in the options if that is the case, hopefully it helps.
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Yes, Scatty, yes
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Aber (but) I was so glad I found the dead certificate of Lhotum bro - B'oth than even with drunkard move I hurry to inform the unlucky prince Lhotum. :lol: Scatty, I dunno how do You feel playing some game as alone in the world, but I hate to play alone. I always want to have a partner and in a hard moment to say " Cover me , amigo". For above game to walking arm to arm. Ty, Scatty. :hihihi: PC - What about a duel between me and YOU in Master of Magic? Psst - Paco is around. :whistling: |
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But I know what you mean with playing alone, in a game like Daggerfall where NPC's, buildings and terrains are rather repititive and don't exactly "fill" the huge world with diversity, I often felt the same. |
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I am joking with my offer for duel in MM. Know that this nice game has no net variant. I am glad to say that after one levitation my move is OK. God is Bulgarian again! Today all the day I was in Daggerfall. I resqued Princess Medora, but was stopped by some torch on the wall (cant find it still) it is actualy a key for closed door. (Today I have a strange moment - I played the DF. When I play, my phones are on, music is on, normally I use a net radio, named Ja-go. I am alone in the room, phones are very good, room light is off , yes very quiet atmosphere. Suddenly, my girl friend opened the door. I am deep in cave and game and no react. She just touch me. Wow! I jumped on the chair, crying in terror. I thought some vampire touch me after the corner. Yes, yes. So I stoned my face and very slowly said: - So what, my dear. Pls, never touch me when I am in the battlefield.- - Yes, darling - was the polite answer.) :lol: Greetings! :hihihi: |
Go Yoga! Tamriel need a hero like Yoga! Yoga FTW! :hello:
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Grazie di cuore, amico Capo!
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I will never forget your sweet cry "Hooray, Lord Yoga" when overcome evil Lord Xeen. Then polite Paco and Scatty helped me and shown me that the weapons had to be stuck and not be worn. Well. But this game seems more difficult than Clouds of Xeen. Will you help me in the game UW2 - Labirint of worlds from time to time? I reached level 8 - some moving squares up-down and failed. 4 years ago. Grazie, Capo! yoga :ph34r: Pls see that YOU and me has same postings number - 322. :OK: Ha ha |
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Probably I am wrong (as usually)
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This happened a hundred years ago, Scatty. Maybe that polite gentleman was Kmonster, another expert from Germany. I remembered that I sent my save file and he was so kind to start game and solve my problem. Then Lord Xeen defeating was a cake. But I am in Daggerfall and speaking bout Xeen. Pls excuse yoga, dear admin. Ha ha ...I am happy because Man United beated Wolves with score 2:1. Well. Daggerfall - I must bring Miss Medora some Horn... But can not find even armed with detailed help of Wiki. Y'know DF is a typical RPG and all action are in deep, dark caves with suddenly appearing vampires, liches and other monsters. BTW with 78 magic points yoga is stable and victorious gamer. Level 31. My battle tactic: If vampire appeared before me, I use 2 spells-Spell Reflection or Spell Shield. Then with my magic knive attack the enemy. 3-4 hits and over. Same with lichs. Es gibt keine problemen fur yoga. Even paralysed from attack behind, I am able to neutralize the spell- --How, yoga? --Very easy. Every spell has some short duration. So I use spell Heal 2-3 time (it is about 10-13 magic points) restoring myself and this way the enemy spell end and powerful yoga returns and beat the monsters. I am armed with magic items only. I am very lazy to visit some blacksmith and order him to repair my item(s). He want payment and repair them for 1 or more days. No problem with money but as I say I do not like these delays.. But DF is so huge that one gamer may play it 2-3 years. I did 6 main quests already. But where are You, DF players? Is yoga the only DF player in AB? Hunvady? :lol: Once again, pls excuse my mistake bout Xeen helper. Cant remember. |
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The mission is accoplished
Yes,
I find this Horn and sent to Prinsess Medora. Oh, it was not so easy. How? Well, thanks to Arete advice I wrote in Google -Where is the horn Daggerfall? Many helping sited appeared. The first offered nice WT. Now all is cake. 7 missions ready and 32 level. 80 magic points. I feel that DF starts to enjoy me. Ha ha I play day and night 200 days already. Scatty, TY for moral support. Off Psst!! Can someone tell me bout Additional bonus levels - 4 and 5 for Heretic - Shadow of serpent riders? I finished 1,2 and 3. I am expert in this game. I may beat every opponent even with closed eyes. I know the game is not AB.. |
7 main missions ready
Hi, gamers,:smile2:
The first main 7 missions are ready: 1-Privateer's Hold 2-Lady Brisienna 3-Edysana Robe 4-Blackmailing Prince 5-Prince Lhotun missing brother 6-Freeing Medora & Unicorn horn 7-Dust of Restful death Note: You will find the dust in Mummi. Achtung!:OK: Now I am in Mission 8 -Lysandus Revelation - waiting when Medora will finished the mixture and ask me. All main missions are 23. I plan to play only main missions. But now I started UU2 and will play 2 games at once. (I play Prince of Persia 3 also but this game is not AB). :max: |
11 of 23 mission finished
Hi, gamers,:smile2:
The first main 7 missions are ready: 1-Privateer's Hold 2-Lady Brisienna 3-Edysana Robe 4-Blackmailing Prince 5-Prince Lhotun missing brother 6-Freeing Medora & Unicorn horn 7-Dust of Restful death + The powerful yoga has the pleasure to announce that careful check shows that he finished 3 more main missions, mainly: 8-Barenzian's book 9-Morgian's wedding 10- King of worm-soul of lich and yesterday he finished one more 11-The Wayrest painting I will give some tips according this mission. 1. You are send to find above painting. It is in Wayrest. You start in hall. Right side of up stairs to the King. You will see a man on the table. OK. You have to open right side door. Do not hurry. -Why, brave yoga? -Because opening of this door will result of attack of nearby Knight, another 2 Knights after door and female Battle mage - 10 meters from the door. Even one of both Knights are unable to attack You (no place), the another 3 are very dangerous opponents. My battle tactic: Fully equipped I attack first female Battle mage. She has no support from the Knight. NO any spells usage! Keep the magic points for spell Heal only. OK. I beat the female Battle mage. Pls use Heal only when yr life meter is about 10-15. Save the game. Now same tactic to Knight.He is very strong but yoga is Master. Gone. Save. Yr magic points are not 82 but still enough if you are clever. Open the door. Now face 3-th opponent - again Knight. Battling. Use Heal if necessary. Ready. Save fast because last Knight is attacking you. Now is the real battle. Do not save Heal now. After his dead you may restore. Fair yoga finished the enemy, but live meter shows 3 points!!..Bravo, brave yoga. Y are the pride of AB! - Yes, you may rush out of Wayrest and restore in some inn, but I do not test this tactic. 2. Now reduce your loading. Why? Because the Painting is not 1 kg and I was forced to drop down 10 000 gold to take Painting. Do not worry. When back you will take this stuff. 3. Use spell Recall when you are in one Torture room. I failed and then cried all the way back.:smile2: 4. When in sewerage use my tactic. Do not hurry to jump in the water and battle with very strong opponents. No. Go to edge of water, incline yr position, the way you see the monsters. Then spell Fireball. Killing 6-7 enemies and you now may jump in the water. Down thru the channel. Be very fast and ready to use spell Levitate. Hit the locked door with spell Open. My next mission is Lysandus's Revelation. - The only problem I met is with the cart. Cant menage it.. :max: My present status. My level is 33. Magic points - 82. Gold - 128 000 . Equipped with magic weapons only. See my last post why. :OK: |
Breaking news
12- Stronghold of the Blades - finished
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Amazing, I've never been that far in the main quest progression in Daggerfall :OK:
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You very kind
Danke,
:mischief: Aber I played the first 6 mission about 6 months, and then as a flash I started to accomplish 1 mission per day. Now I am in 13 Mission.. ..But now I will beg all DF fans to be patient because I am in another battle field - UW2 severs (moreover PP3 want to run and pass one difficult passage) Well, for a while yoga stops this DF project.. Anyway...:smile2: Last word - --If You are in bad condition in the game - no magic point to heal, enemies around, no place to hide, Remember , folks that You may rest on upstairs.. Yes, yes, believe me. --And if You beat Wrath from close distance, it has no chance to hit you by magic Paralyze or like.(Wrath is black monster with red eyes, usually semi visible, at 1 meter high in the air before you. --In this very moment the harder opponents for me are: ancient vampires and knights. But I am Master and max 10 hits are enough to send them in better world. --Last tip: If you want to pass a distance without being disturbed, spell the spell Spell sheath. Now even been hit by monster you have time to meet enemy full ready for friendly welcome. :OK: |
13-th Mission is over.
My next mission is Lysandus's Revelation is finished. :whistling:
..Resting after my fail in UW2 ( I can not find the switch on the right wall) I decided to restart 13-th mission. Easy.. But I have difficult problem with my...... mouse. It begins strike. I politely ask it to return to its duty. No. Nein. Even increasing of the salary not help. So, after all mutual ways were exhausted I showed the door of this mouse. End. -Yoga, you do not finish the mission. -What? You want to say yoga is not fair! -Prove. - OK. When I reached Lusandus sarcophagus ... -Stop.Stop. What do you or the dead king do? -Well. I used my magic Dust of Restful Dead on the sarcophagus and click on it. Suddenly the sarcophagus opened and a skeleton emerged. Then it appeared before me in human shape and explained who kill him. It was lord Woodborne in Wayrest. It was covered with red fires. If you do not end the mission you will not know this dramatic end. Only 12 missions left. But I must find this fuc-ed switch or Scatty will laugh at me.. Anyway...:smile2: yoga :OK: |
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Yes, but Scatty let go to UW2 thread,
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I'd kind of like to play Daggerfall now, seeing all those missions described. I used to play it but I would just go fighting random encounters. The dungeons got very boring very quickly. How can you manage to keep playing it for so long without getting bored? I'd love a few tips so I could actually finish it.
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14-th Mission is over. Lysandus' revenge
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Hi, Aramazon, welcome to the best game thread. Moment, pls. ...Yes, betrayer and killer Lord Woodworne was found and killed by brave yoga. Now the spirit of noble King Lysandus is ready for resurrection. When You kill this lord, a short video will show the King and his army. Just 9 missions left only, but because the game is not linear I dunno what to do. Will wait and try something. Dear Aramazon, with all my respect to YOU, allow me to disagree with yr words the game DF is boring game. As you know RPG are mainly in caves, castles or like. It is not out door games like Doom2. :ph34r: Yes, in the very beginning till you starve to increase yr level status you must visit monotonous places. But this way you training for bigger challenges. Start the game and for me will be pleasure to direct you and help you. Soon the game will became one wonderful adventure. Enjoy ! :OK: |
15-th Mission is over. Concern for Nulfaga.
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Well, Yoga, you seem to be a hardcore player =)
I thought that after I posted some of the tips on character creation u will start over again, I think that by that time you weren't far from begnning anyway, but no, you just kept playing on, thumb up for that :OK:. One of the things I'm wondering about is actually how you manage to kill vamp ancient with barely 90 mana. I remember my hard times defeating one with 250 mana, yet u manage to do it with 90 =) As you are speaking of using magic weapons and stuff, I guess u have them identified and are well aware of their abilities, since most of magical items are "use me and cast something", other, with constant effect are getting worn way much faster than normal, even if it isn't a weapon, just because of having it equipped. As for your lvl of 31 or so, I guess you are fully daedric equipped with daedric dai-katana(in case that you are using swords) used as a tool of destruction, if not, I suggest geting one ASAP =). As for UUW2, I played and finished it too, but it was years ago. Won't be much of help there. Anyway keep fighting a good fight :OK:. |
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Train all magic skills that way up, after which you can create even combined spells with good values like shield + spell absorb together and they would mostly still cost only 5 mana to cast. With such skills and spells even ancient vampires will be rarely any threat to you, which makes the game maybe even a bit too easy. As for the items bit, there's a variable in Daggerfall's config file that can be set and allows with the latest patch, while creating own items in magic guild, to add Repair property on them which repairs everything in your inventory just the same way as if you would give weapons or armor to a smith to repair, though the property repairs only if you rest, not during traveling. Use the capture soul spell to store souls of Ancient Vampires or Daedra Lords in soul containers to allow much more being added to an item. Ancient Vampire souls even have no disadvantages but huge point bonus. Easy to become overpowered with all the strategies above. |
It's actually really fun, but my biggest issue right now is my save files keep getting corrupted and then I'm losing time I put in. Do you guys have this problem too or what? When I try to load the save file it will say some random error or the last time it was some kind of character error. Any suggestions?
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Never had that happening, though there are quite a lot of (also game-damaging) bugs in earlier versions of the game. Do you have the latest patch for it installed? Also just in case you're not playing it in DosBox, you should. Last but not least, it might have something to do with problems on your hard drive, run a Scandisk and see if there're any errors.
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Hurray!! Once again for brave yoga
Hey, amigos,:hello:
Ty for yr questions and conversion. Well, my gamer friends named me Bulldog. Y'now what it means. Some more info, if Y dont mind: -Few years ago I started here in AB the game The world of Xeen.I played and played but was impossible to kill bad Lord. I started game 6 times, till a friendly gamer ( maybe this was Kmonster) informed me that my mistake was that I just carried the weapons not wear. After this help the dead of bad lord was piece of cake. Little note: One good hearten gamer here advice me to attack a lava area with very strong, very strong monsters. And stupid yoga attacked. Wow!! What was my surprise found myself among not 1-2 monsters but 7 !!! and more approaching. But yoga is yoga..I killed 3 and vanished as a spirit. Vo-vo. I will not betray this gamer, he is very good man. :)) Then I finished the game Anvil of down. Again Scatty was my mother Teressa. Then I leave AB because of problems beyond my control. After my return I started Ultima 8 – Pagan. I started the game 6 times – nice Paco and Scatty helped me non stop , but something was wrong and reaching the Pit of Dead I give up. Then I finished the saga of Ravenloft: 1- Strahd' Possession 2- Stone Prophet. During these adventures I played the game Heretic 1 (maybe I am the best world player of this game) and Prince of Persia 3. I started Doom 3, but do not liked in single version. Now I finished Daggerfall. Actually there a some more missions (2 or 3) but this depends of the game.. I started the game DF at 15 May 10. First 6 months I accomplished 5-6 missions. Then suddenly I started to pass 1 mission per day-two days. If You do not mind I will give You more details and some trips for new comer. My parameters: Level - 35 Magic points - 86 I am Nord, custom character, some mix like Fighter and Magician. My equipment: Accessories: 1 amulet 1 bracelet 1 magical ring 1 magical emerald 1 magical diamond Dresses and weapons -Red helm +10 -Daedric right cauldron +10 -Daedric left cauldron +10 -Daedric left pauldron +10 -Daedric boots +10 -Daedric greaves +10 -Steel Cutlass +4, magical -Fancy Armbands , magical -Khajiit suit magical -Towered shield +4, -Daedric dagger 13-18, magical Numbers, starting from my Helm to clockwise – 25,25,21,4,9,21 (on my portrait) Others: Gold – 230 000 pieces Fatique – 153 Health – 260 Encumbrance: 145 Strength – 97 Intelligence – 172 Willpower – 88 Agility – 58 Endurance – 56 Person. - 57 Speed – 86 Luck 62 Spells: I have 31 spells, but I will show the best ones and required magic points: 6 Shock 15 Troll blood 15 Cure disease 27 Paralyze 20 Spell resistance 28 Spell reflection 33 Spell shield 5 Jumping 7 Fireball 9 Invisibility 5 Levitate 15 Open 6 Heal 8 RECALL I DID NOT make spells. I bought. Where yoga? Search Magic Guild, join and then buy the spells. Moreover I am lazy beggar. (cont.) :doh: |
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I have no any bug in the game. Only I do not like the pose of killed opponents - (with open legs, like prostitute, a little cynical, sorry):sucks: yoga moralist |
Part 2 - Some 20 tips
Some tips of DF: :OK:
Greetings. Please, be advised that brave yoga will concentrate on game UW2. TY :smile2: |
Maybe, that my hero felt the fear I felt so he rather died =)
EDIT: Or maybe I'm not as skilled as it may seem =P |
Thanks for the tips Yoga! I've got my game up and running and it's quite decent. I haven't had any problems with save files for a while now...I did find though that I get a crash when I try to use an "area around caster" spell too quickly.
Anyways, I've got a battle mage character, level 6 now, I've been training him up a bit. He's good with a sword and his magic skills are 40+. I just got destruction to 60. I'm just getting started on the main quests...I haven't actually done too much with them. One thing does make me sad though, as a battle mage my character can't wear any plate armor...so he's stuck with leather. It's okay though because when I make a custom character I feel like I'm cheating because I can make my character so strong. |
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I am feeling YOU are very nice and brave gamer. Would be so kind to help me in my new UW2? Diky mnoho! yoga:whistling: |
Do not worry
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:hihihi: Yes, this is the price we pay for Mage character.. Do not afraid..Maybe in the future Y will find magical leather? Do you enchanted yr equipment with Smithy in Magic Guid? It is free. My friendly advise is to concentrate on spells. Avoid physical contact with opponents. Kill them with power spells. Sadly the power spells required more mana but mana is depending on yr level. So, you have to evaluate is yr Hero strong en.? I did created new character in my beginning because I was so weak that all opps killed me without any problem. Do not hurry. It is better to create balanced hero. You have all the time of the world. ..And feel free to ask me for help when You need. Ty. Good luck!!:whistling: yoga Dont forget Button + ! ha ha - good button :hello: One polite question if Y dont mind: - You are in AB from 2005 but have 6 posts only? Merci. |
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As for the UUW2, I might try, but as I said, it's been a long time =) |
Yes, you need to have done some randomly chosen quests for the guild and have a certain level to be promoted to a higher / highest rank (something above 10 I think) and only after that you can use the services of the magic smithy. Depending on what / how many properties you add to an item it also costs a lot of money, so it's in no way free.
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Yes, I have done many randomly chosen quests for the guild and have a higher rank (something above 10). Well, to be fair I want to tell You bout some my fails. - I finished game without understand the system of this cart and horse. Their weights are 0 kg, but how to use the cart no idea. - Do not know how to write down when map is open on specific zone and condition. - Will be nice if someone explain this matter for new comers. :whistling: |
When you enter the inventory, in the upper right corner you can click on the icon for the inventory and it switches to the cart inventory (750 weight capacity) if you possess a cart. When you select an item and drop it, it doesn't drop on the ground as usually but instead gets transferred into the cart.
One only needs to enter a dungeon which has monsters very close to the entrance door and keep slaying them, picking up items and storing into the cart, exit the dungeon, re-enter and repeat the procedure to hoard loads of good items. Then sell them all in the town, store the money at the bank and withdraw as a credit letter. Sure way to get rich quickly. |
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You mean, like when in town having map open, to find something or to write down notes, or do you mean the world map, then you can't search for continents itselves instead you just have to find it manually, but when you are viewing certain continent, then you can search for towns, dungs etc., if you know the name ofc. You can't make notes on the world map. |
for the info (source uespwiki)
Rank 5 Access to Item Maker Rank 5 Enchanter: Reputation:50 Highest skill:55 Lowest skill:24 Required skills: Alteration Destruction Illusion Mysticism Restoration Thaumaturgy |
Hmm, what is this horse for?
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I mean when open the usual map (not Lilac bay map), left to sleep fire down, to write down that this zone is passed already or like. Or to marked the location. Y'now what deep and difficult caves we entered. So a little info is very handy for tired hero. Many times I was so deep, that I was very upset and only the nice spell Recall back me to the surface. Yes, I played hardly to increase my level in the beginning. One more my fail: I think this is specifically for me only.. I do have black Optical mouse. Nice. But suddenly this mouse starts to have tendency to move my hero as drunken Russian Cossack! Believe me.. I have serious conversation with Missis Mouse and after it refuses to obey me, just fired it.. Now seriously: This is no good for mouse control at all, but I found solution. Just start the spell Levitation and all is 6. (In my BG 6 is highest school score - 2 is bad record.) Of course yoga has diploma with scores 4 (University). In the special school my diploma is 5.49 (I am the forth student in rank). In the primary school my diploma is of course total 6. You see how in progress yoga understands that is better to catch fish, play football and beat lord Xeen instead of sleep on the dusty books. I am lazy beggar.. Ha ha :whistling: |
@ Yoga:
The whole thing about school is the same for me. I used to be a good student, now I'm taking a year off from university. And yeah I know, I've been a member for a long time cause I've been playing old games for...a good amount of time, but I just didn't find anything to talk about. So not too many posts. I gotta say though, my character is starting to get really kick butt. My destruction is 100, so I can use fireball like no other, and I can also use the disintegrate spells which I name KILL, they insta kill everything. My big problem now though is the use of distance spells...I find they like to explode in my face instead of going where I want them to. I'm going to get a spell reflection artifact soon because there are a lot of Vampire Ancients...and they kill me very easily. Anyways this game is too great! My eyes hurt from playing it too much!! |
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The first ones only damage the targeted enemy if he's hit and cost less mana, only 5 with careful designing and still strong enough to insta-kill with high level of the respective magic skill(s). Radius damage spells are pretty pointless in my opinion since enemies are rather rarely close enough to each other to be affected all by them. Spell with disintegrate effect costs more and is therefore also rather pointless with high enough magic skill(s) to kill just with one single-target ranged spell. |
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In fact, for just the ranged spells I find they rarely hit the enemy. Even when it goes right into him it rarely seems to work. At least the area effect spells work every time. |
Yes that happens quite often, I noticed it too. What I found often helps is to point the spell just below the feet of the enemy, more or less adjustment is needed, and it mostly hits the target instead of the ground. If pointed directly at an enemy the spell very often just flies through him, doing nothing.
I think it has to do with a mediocre made collision detection of Daggerfall. Better forget those area effect ranged spells, they only hit yourself as you noticed. Touch range spells always hit though if close enough. |
I always hated damage spells, I only used protective/healing spells, instead a good old magical daedric dai-katana was my best friend.
OT: I was attending uni too, sadly only for 1 year, I never was into studying too, highschool was piece of cake, first semester of uni was cake as well since it was a repetition from highschool, but then I said goodbye education and now I'm happily working for almost 3 years, yay. Time goes fast.. |
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[quote=wardencz;417774]I always hated damage spells, I only used protective/healing spells, instead a good old magical daedric dai-katana was my best friend.
:whistling: Hi, mates, Yes, I was badly injured from the spell Fireball. So I recommend you ,Aramazon, to use this spell only when you slightly inclined, had to kill water monster in one of last missions. -I will tell you my spell experience: 1. Recall - very, very handy spell. You have to have this one at any cost! 2. Heal - No comment 3. Spell reflection - Use it when cross corridors, and bad Lich and Wrath will be killed at once. Ha ha very nice. I recommend you to use this spell always + 4. Invisibility 5. Levitate 6. Open - some doors are open when hit with dagger or sword 7. Cure poison - in the very beginning and 2-4 more. May be Jumping and Troll blood. Do not buy too much spells. I bought too much and then I was confused to scroll all of them to find wanted one.. I am abs. agree with Wardencz with his opinion concerning type of spells used. Note that with increasing of yr level their cost in mana decreased. Again I am surprised with problem with this Ancient Vampire - Repeat - I used Spell reflection and 4-8 dagger hits are enough. Do not rely on the spell to kill opponents. No. Main factor is yr brain and good old magical dai-katana or dagger. Dear Aramazon, I am glad you begin to realize how nice is DF. Believe me I started many years ago the first game of the saga but do not finished.. DF is better. Always save before taking new task and keep this save in a slot 4 for example. In case you meet very strong opps and timeless cave, You may back and ask better and easier task. And keep every day gaming in for example Flash memory. Yes, this will prevent you from fatal mistake.. (Ha ha - one day I was so angry that entered a general story and start robbery as real gangster. Immediately 3-4 knights appeared. But I took good position after the rack this way allowing only one knight to attack me and killed them all. Ha ha). Keep in mind you may climb even you have no Levitate still . Enjoy!!:max: End -- button + |
Well, I used spell absorbtion and deflection against A. vamps.
I never bought spells, for a couple of reasons: 1.Most likely from the beginning if you have low mana and low casting skills, there will be many spells that you won't be able to cast 2.I always lolled at the spells names, if you have many bought spells then you get pretty confused while trying to find desired spell -- I've always created custom spells to perfectly suit my needs(manacost, power etc.) and always named them whatever I wished(for instance: "train restoration" and i know it means: restore fatigue 1-2 for 5 MPs, not the kinda name you get by buying spells like: Satans burning flames) |
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I spent many many hours playing this game. I bought it when it first came out because I loved Arena so much. I can still remember calling tech support to complain how the game crashed after playing for 10 minutes. The guy said "you're lucky, some people can play for 5 minutes before that happens." I didn't even have a modem back then and they had to MAIL the patches to me!
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Performance issues
For my umpteenth adventure into daggerfall , I ventured into abandonia and snatched me up a copy. To my surprise it turned out to be an exe and not a .zip. ( I am accustomed to a little dosbox tango to run my df)
I was quite surprised ny this and pleased, at first. However, the performance of daggerfall is pitiful at best. I tried different .conf settings yet it seems to hurt more than help. I remember playing this sucker on my p1 phenomenally and I had no performance problems running older downloads of the .zip with dosbox. Though today, it runs at a snails pace. Please help a Jeff kind Sirs and Misses! :cry: |
The reason this is an .exe file is because it is a setup file provided by Bethesda when they made the game freeware, normally hosted on their webpage but after the change for Elderscrolls 5 it got removed.
It is still running in Dosbox and as such you might need to fiddle with it a bit more to get it to run right. Sadly there is not a lot we can do to help, I recomend that you fiddle with the config a bit more. Or have a look around on Google to see if others have had the same problem. |
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First of all, if you're playing Daggerfall in DosBox 0.74, try it in DosBox 0.73. Some games have troubles running in 0.74. Second, the recommended settings (in dosbox.conf file):
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I use the same setting as Scatty, but for the CPU cycles =max, works just perfect for me. (but it really depends on your computing power)
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Btw, I have machine set to svga_et4000 and memsize 32, I would like to optimize this also. My scaler is normalx2, I would really like to use the hq saler. Do any o' you cats use a nice shader or do they vamp up the resources used by dosbox too much? |
I never used any other scaler than normal2x though I tried others, as this one looks most normal and least blurry from others, at least at my notebook with set resolution.
Maximum memsize that DosBox accepts is 64 (63 only though if typing mem in DosBox), more doesn't increase it. Instead of svga_et4000 I would recommend vesa_oldvbe, or vgaonly in case of trouble from some games. vesa_oldvbe should have best compatibility with most games using high-resolution modes, while others can be used for games that used to specifically hardware-access certain less-widespread cards like Paradise (svga_paradise) and provided special or better enhancements / resolution modes with those, like Moraffs Dungeons of the Unforgiven for example. |
Does anybody know if it is possible to increase the resolution in Daggerfall? I have a 28" 1920x1200 screen and it looks extremely pixelated.
It wasn't as much an issue on my old 19" screen but on the 28" it looks really bad. Thanks. Edit: I changed the scaler in the DosBox options to 2xsai. It looks a little blurry now but overall a little better, I think. Now I downloaded "Daggerfall WinXP Edition(DOSbox)-TLN". It should run Daggerfall in resolutions up to 1680x1050. I followed the installation instructions by the user shreddog here: Do not Link to Torrent sites! Still it does not start. When I double click the dosbox.exe it opens for half a second and closes again. I have Win 7 64 Bit and Win XP 32 Bit installed. I tried to run it on Win7 64 Bit and Win XP 32 Bit and it doesn't start on both. |
Spyware?
Wonderful game, just like I remember it. I don't know if this has been brought up before, because I didn't read the whole thread (sorry :headslap:), but after full installation my malware scanner picked up and removed a piece of spyware. The infected file was called "eyeofargonia.exe". I doubt it was a false positive, since the game seems to be running just fine without the file. Has anyone else run into this and can explain it, or can we see about getting this file removed from the download somehow? With the upcoming new ES release, it's possible and even likely that the number of downloads of this game will increase, and this infection could spread that way, if it's a positive.
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Seems a false positive to me, happens with old games. Maybe it's a crack or similar. I've scanned it using Avira and nothing has been revealed. Maybe other will tell you more.
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Thanks, Dave. It is entirely possible that it might just have been a crack or something, but the name of the infected file makes it sound like it was an adventure pack - whatever Malwarebytes didn't like, it was in an executable file, and that worries me.
Can anyone offer any more insight? I'd really appreciate a few more opinions and thoughts about this before I make the decision about what to tell people about this download. |
This .exe setup file is (from what I know at least, all the copyrights and the like are there to see when you run the install.) the one provided by Bethesda, I got it from a different source after the Bethesda site took down from the page it was on (the site I got it from was the one Reloaded linked to I think).
Microsoft Security Essentials sees nothing wrong in it at all. It is possible someone hacked it and put a virus in it, but I doubt it for now. We are talking about this in the updaters forum at the moment. |
Allegedly, the file is an editor meant to change the view distance setting in your saved games.
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Thanks everyone. Sounds like it's getting more and more likely that it picked up a false positive, but better safe than sorry. DarthHelmet86, please let me know what you come up with over in the UL forum.
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UL forum? Do you mean the Updaters Forum. If so we have found that this is a repackaged version of Daggerfall to include some fan made patches (all clean and such but not the orginal being hosted by Bethesda). One of our members is creating a preinstalled version of the Beth version to host when we can.
To be clear, the version we have is virus free, but isn't the orginal version but a repackaged one to include some Mod/patches. A new preinstalled version will be up soon. |
you mean a new version without the additional good stuff like the patches and mods? why'd you do that? o_O
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For archival purposes?
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..i thought having the originals plus all the extra goodies was a good thing. it's not like it were a 1:1 clone cd image anyways. seriously, why remove it?
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Darth - yes, that's what I meant. I meant to hit UD, and somehow ended up with UL. That's what I get for not reading my own posts.
Seems it was a false positive after all. Good to know. Thanks once more, all. |
Does anybody know how the weapon skills, besides HtH, in Daggerfall work?
Hand-to-Hand increases damage and chance to hit but what do the other weapon skills do? Do they also increase damage or is damage solely increased by the weapon in use(+str modifier) and the weapon skill increases only the chance to hit? How do they work? Thanks.:zoidberg: |
Well if the skills hold true to Morrowind, which I think they do in most ways, then increases in the other weapon skills increases the damage of the weapons related to that skill.
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The archive has been replaced, since at Abandonia we aim at preservation. If you look at the files inside the CD image included, their last modified date attribute is set at 1996. That comes from Bethesda and it must be legit. :)
After a thorough examination we have every reason to believe that the files discussed above are harmless. We do not want to discourage in the least their usage, you can find the fan-made Windows-friendly installer with mods at: http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/...erfallSetup_EN |
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Does anybody know where to get Soul Gems, to trap souls to enchant items? |
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I must say, I always loved the Elder Scrolls games and this was one of my favorites. ReDLing for a good time!
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I am level 22 with 789 hitpoints, 250% hth, 250% critical strike, 250% dodging, etc... You can easily ruin the game balance with the item maker. |
Daggerfall
When I downloaded this game last year it took you to a different website where you were able to download. Now it's right here on Abandonia. The website I was taken to had detailed instructions on how to get Daggerfall working with a CD mount.
Now it looks like that website is gone. Someone here posted a link to instructions and all I get was a '404' message. When previously I was able to go there and follow the instructions. This CD Mount command I was using worked on another game that needed it. Today I can't get anything to work and that is because I was stupid enough to lose the instructions to get Daggerfall to work. The other game I got to work (that I bought ages ago) fails to run also. I find that the website no longer exists. Once I get some simple commands I'll be able to refresh my memory. |
Hi Guest13, good news:
- There game is now far easier to run than with the original instructions. Just read the download and review webpage under http://www.abandonia.com/files/games...andonia_18.png - The original instructions are still available as an extra download at the top of the same webpage. But really they're unnecessarily complicated. Here they are: http://www.abandonia.com/files/extra...l%20extras.zip |
Did your archive change? Seems like it's messed up. There are a ton of files missing from your \arena2 directory compared to the \arena2 directory on the iso. Also, I'm having missing file issues when I play (113's). Coincidence? Yes, I do understand that occasional 113's are normal for this game, but for me they start as soon as I get out of the starter dungeon and receive a message in my pack that's supposed to warn me that I have lycanthropy.
That's another wierd thing: I've restarted with new characters 3 times now, and ***every time*** I've gotten the lycanthropy quest as soon as the first time I hit "W" to go to daggerfall. This last start I gave myself disease resistance and was careful with my fights (and save/restores) so that I took not one single point of damage from any bat, rat, bear, skel, human, imp, nor that lonely orc. Where am I picking this disease up from??? The last wierd thing is that I get the 113's when I click in my inventory to read the message telling me that I have lycanthropy. You might well ask how I know what the message says, if it crashes the game when I click it. Well, it turns out that if I restore and try it again about 10 times, one of those times will let me read the message. Which seems like another impossibility to me: I mean if the file is there for me to see, ever, then it should always be there. And if I find it once, it shouldn't disappear (and then come back once in a while). And yess, I did try the fixsave program which is supposed to help with some of the 113s. No joy. I'm tempted to copy the arena directory from the iso over the one created by your archive, to replace the missing files. But you warn me that the iso is an unpatched version. Not sure how to procede. |
Did you follow in the instructions below the review?
It's normal that there are tons of files on the CD not on the HD, the installation is minimal, and everything else would be duplicated (since the CD is already in an image file on the HD). Better than copying files by hand, you can try erasing and re-installing from the CD (ISO). You can then patch it to the latest version by downloading the "extras from the Bethesda release" (link at the top of the review, to the right of the main download link) and running the patcher in it. |
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"mount c "c:\users\danny\desktop", which does not make any sense, and does not work. I'm not sure where the shortcuts have to be and/or where dosbox has to be to make it work. Instead, I: 1. manually launch dosbox, 2. "mount c c:\dagger", 3. "c:", and 4. "dosbox". I think this is equivalent to what your drag&drop accomplishes when it works. If not, let me know. Quote:
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Main problem with installing DF from CD is issue in DOSBox itself: it cannot recognize label of disc, so if you made "clean" install, it will say "no CD". But as this issue can be avoided with no-cd install, well, I cannot remember anything else. Simply made "full install", apply patch (still with "CD" in DOSBox), made game no-cd, and play! At least, it worked for my my last three installs of it. :)
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The archive is prepared to run it exactly as instructed, to the letter, or alternatively it allows you to re-install the game since it includes the original CD. If you re-install it, you will have the same constraint about the virtual path were the game must be run from. If you installed it in a folder mounted as "c:\", you must always run it from the DOSBox virtual path "c:\", or you will get an error. If you install it at "c:\dagger\", you must always run from "c:\dagger"\. Etc. Quote:
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I see. Your instructions were a bit on the general side. I have an obsessive personality and I like things organized properly. Typically, I install dos games to c:\games\classics\.... In this case I looked ahead a bit into the dagger.bat and dosbox.bat files and got the feeling that this thing needed to be at c:\dagger, and (begrudgingly) that's where I put it. Your instructions were also a bit general at the part about drag&drop. You should have said something about launching Windows Explorer, finding the \Tes2 Dagger folder and dragging the bat file from there. This procedure is pretty ineffecient anyway, in my opinion.
Never-the-less, I have now: 1. removed c:\dagger, 2. deleted the dagger.bat shortcut from my desktop, 3. unzipped he \Tes2 Dagger folder to my root directory, 4. launched the game by drag&dropping, 5. started a new game with a new character, and 6. grinded through the starter dungeon for the 5th %$!!%!!! time. Upon exiting the dungeon and hitting the 'w' key, I get the "blah, blah message blah blah backpack blah blah written in a flowing hand" message. I open my backpack and click the message and it comes up to announce that Andy Woodsy (or whoever) insists that I go somewhere and get my lycanthropy cured, blah, blah, and blah. Then I get out of the backpack and hit 'w' again. Instead of the map I expect, I get the "blah blah flowing hand" message a second time. I don't think I've seen this variation before. So I go to my backpack and there are now 2 messages. Clicking on the second one gets me the lycanthropy note. Clicking on the first one crashes the game with a 113. I think I'm over this game for the time being. Maybe I will try it again in a year or so. It is a shame. |
That particular error is very strange. I have beaten the game once and gotten very far another time, and I found occasional glitches, but nothing like that, specially so reproducible.
Have you tried re-downloading? And re-installing from the CD, patching or not afterwards? The drag 'n drop method is advised only for beginners who don't know how to use DOSBox otherwise. The rest of people need only take into account that this installation needs the game to find itself at "C:\DAGGER\". |
Or get the game@DBGL
http://members.quicknet.nl/blankendaalr/dbgl/ Pre-configured and ready to run on DBGL. If you can't get it running with this one, forget the game, it really doesn't like you. |
Good idea.
There's also another installer for Windows, mentioned earlier in this thread: http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/...erfallSetup_EN But I don't really understand what happens to you Alcaray, unless you have modified the game files by hand as you said. Try DBGL or the other package. |
i installed this game from abandonia yesterday and i got the same lycanthropy problem as alcaray :(
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Aw man I'll have to look into it. How can I reproduce it, does it appear always the first time you try to look at the region map?
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Please attach a savegame file from just before exiting the dungeon, checking that when you play from it you get the error.
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I have replaced the archive. I reproduced the error, and with this archive it's gone. Let me know if there are others, this game is quite special about everything. Thanks to Alcaray and Schurke for reporting.
It's now a full installation and it doesn't need any CD, but it needs to be run with "fall z.cfg" instead of "dagger", or else it will complain about it. It also needs to be mounted at "C:\DAGGER\". The cutscenes are missing. |
New to this
My girlfriend recommended this game to me and I was having the problem with the scroll that people have been posting about lately. I just re-downloaded the game and it is running fine, however I never got the scroll that was giving me the problem in the first place.
Should I just wait longer for the scroll to appear in my backpack or was it just taken out and I need to activate the main quest in some other way? Thank you very much, it looks like a great game! |
Well, if you never received the scroll through the bug in the first place, just let yourself be bitten and scratched by a werewolf or a werebaar (those two differ as does slightly the affliction of you becoming one or another) for some time, just see that you don't die, and you should become afflicted with lycanthropy, triggering the following optional hidden quests including (and beginning with) the appearance of the mentioned scroll.
Oh, and you don't become afflicted immediately, rest for 2-3 nights in an inn and you'll see a video, that's when you know it has begun. |
Main quest bug
I just started playing this game a couple days ago and I was having this scroll error that you just fixed. I just re-downloaded the game and I no longer receive the scroll upon exiting the dungeon.
Is there another way for me to pick up the main quest or do I have to re-load the game or go to a previous save inside of the dungeon? I would like to be able to do the main quest but if it is not possible with this version I will just play without the main quest. Thanks, this game is a lot of fun! |
I think I'll upload an easy-to-install ISO of Daggerfall to the ISO Cellar, where this bug with the scroll doesn't appear, or at least it didn't so far for me. My version seems like being slightly different from the one already linked to there. I would recommend to download the full CD ISO version from there in any case, if only for the fun of the game intros / videos.
Edit: see also the last post of Japo on the previous page in this thread. It's just that this bug with the scroll seems to be fixed, but the main quest should be pursued without any problems. Just that the version downloaded directly from Abandonia lacks the ingame videos. |
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Well wait until I upload a CD ISO of the game to the ISO Cellar tomorrow, there shouldn't be any problems with the main quest anymore if you install the game from it I hope. I'll see also if I can add anything to the readme.txt file provided with it for the easiest possible installation of the game. I never had any quest-breaking problems with that version of the game yet so far, so maybe it will help there.
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How long have you waited for it? Reportedly it takes two to three weeks since you exit the Privateer's Hold. |
I have tested the current archive and I do get the letter, some days after exiting the Privateer's Hold.
Let me know if you have other problems. The game complains about the missing CD if started with dagger.exe, but "fall z.cfg" works, and although the cutscenes are missing the game doesn't seem to crash because of it. |
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Is anyone playing with this version and does it work fine? |
Here one can find (and download) a great and useful FAQ for the game, which covers pretty much every subject.
Here also one can get the (to my knowledge) latest and last version of the small program Fixsave which scans Daggerfall savegames and repairs in case of possible bugs and problems. It's a newer version than the one provided with the last 2.13 patch. Both can also be downloaded here, along with many other useful things for Daggerfall. Look out especially for DFInstall utility, which installs the game from CD / full ISO under Windows XP + newer and automatically applies patch v2.13. |
I'm not sure about all that useful things but many of them are included in packadge from Japos post.
I tried it and I like it. Had much better experience with it than with the one from official ES site. |
Hello.
I see that the Size is still listed as being 161025 kb. Since you have changed the archive to have the Dagger.exe file inside instead of the Dagger.iso the new size is now only 99,513kb. Maybe the game page could be changed to reflect that. |
Thanks for noticing, fixed.
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Hi all, I'm new to the forums.
I've just installed Daggerfall but I can't get past the "select home province" screen. I click with the mouse on a province but nothing happens... Any advice? I'm running DOSBOX on Win Vista 32. |
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Travel map Right clicking on the Map icon on your character sheet brings up your Travel Map. Although it is possible to walk to any location in the Lliac bay (I used this option once- I was badly wounded and fast travel was impossible. I traveled about 35 minutes real time but reached home town-Wow.), this may take hours of real time, so it is often preferable to “fast-travel”. Click on the region you are interested in visiting. Your own region blinks. Once you get a close-up of the region, move your cursor over the dots to see the names of each of them. It can be difficult to get the arrow onto this dots. Clicking the right mouse button on the map will blow it up even further. Selecting FIND will allow you to type in the name of a place and have it located for you. In most cases you only need to type in the first part of a place name to get a match. Click the I'M AT button to see where your character is currently located. The 4 map legend items also act as filter. Clicking on one of them hides that type of place on the map. Clicking on it again revels them. Most regions in Daggerfall have hundreds of map locations. Late in the game, these filters will become very handy. Travel Options After a location is selected, press the OKAY button on the Travel Options menu to begin your trip. You have a variety of options, which will effect your speed, fatigue from the trip, and the odds of avoiding wandering beauties. Useful? Nice site is: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Daggerfall .. I wish You big success with this nice game and .... I feel gentle envy You are able to play this game.:smile2: yoga |
I think he/she means while making the character.
@Elishalai, are you clicking on the Imperial Province? You can't have a character from that one, you have to choose one of the others. |
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Anyway soon or later every player has to visit new provinces and towns, so my quotation is not useless, dear Japo. Greetings |
I encountered the same problem as elishalai. the problem seems to be that the mouse is not activated in the installed version.
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Try pressing Ctrl+F10
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To all the people having problems installing and running this game this is what I did to get it finally to run.
mount c c:\oldgames (oldgames is the directory where it is installed) mount d d:\ -t cdrom -ioctl -label Daggerfall I'm using the cd version which I got from someone Z:\C: cd dagger (always use the change directory command, never do mount c c:\oldgames\dagger) c:\dagger\dagger I found a lot of games which do not work on frontends and do not like their directories to be mounted. |
daggerfall error
trying to run daggerfall in dosbox but get the error message "daggerfall has encountered error 0" have i installed something wrong or not set the program up correctly? any help is greatly appreciated. thanks.
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Are you following the instructions on the review page, under the header "how to run the game"?
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Dosbox cheats for Daggerfall
Hi....thanks for the game (a small contribution has been made).
I'm finding some of the combat a bit clunky and difficult. Having checked the options, it doesn't seem as if the difficulty slider can be adjusted mid-game. I've found the z.config cheat and all seem to work except invincibility (CNTRL-F4) which does nothing. Ideally, I'd like to be able to toggle this on and off rather than grinding through as a frequently murdered novice!! |
First, I am not going to tell you how you should play a game, so don't read this that way but:
If you find opposition to be too tough, unlike in many other games, in the TES world there is no shame in running away to train and come back later for pay back time. Early on, there are few dungeons suitable for a low level character and while it's true, that even a hero can face horrible foes, it does get easier as you get better at fighting or casting those mean spells etc. When you start out, I strongly suggest spending time training your favorite skills and taking those small jobs found in cities. |
Thank you MM for your quick response and I did note it as intended and didn't take it as patronising.
The problem is that I was a bit enthusiastic and put the difficulty slider between normal and hard. On reflection, I should have made it easier as bats and rats are proving difficult to kill and the scorpions are handing me my butt on a plate! I'll take the advice on board but it took a lot of grinding to get where I am and don't want to start from scratch. So any cheats that can help me along would still be useful. |
I can't get my sword to swing. I have tried remapping it to other keys and everything but I just can't attack and it's really frustrating. Is there some kind of fix for this?
Everything else seems to work, I can cast spells and save, work my inventory, steal, and such. I just can't see to attack which makes it a pretty short game. |
Are you using keyboard alone or a mouse? Have you tried clicking and HOLDING the attack button while moving the mouse (not sure about keyboard but try the movement keys)?
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While holding the right mouse button pressed, move the mouse around to swing
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Daggerfall Unity has reached alpha milestone. It means you no longer have to run the buggy DOS version but can use the open source clone instead.
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