Baldur's Gate
 

Do you own Baldur's Gate? The very first one so not number two.

I supposed to own it, together with the addon, in the Black Isle-compilation, but instead got Baldur's Gate II + Addon, and for Baldur's Gate I only have the addon without the game. Not that I repent to have Baldur's Gate II instead :wink:

I do, a friend sold his PC and bought a PS2 (fool!) and he gave me all the games he couldn't sell. Baldurs's gate on six ( :shock: ) CDs was among them.

I have a PS2 and computer, although I like the computer much better for most things...

I have the six CD version as well. The Sixth CD is for the "tales of the Sword Cost" add on. Bloody brilliant game this is.

yeah i own it
do u own planscape torment?

I have Planescape - Torment! :D Very good game, too, although still not that good as Baldur's Gate II.

Interesting question :P .
I don't have BG1, nor BG2, but i eagerly want to play them both!
As for PlanetScape Torment, it looks fine i'm going to play it sometime soon!

Doesn't this thread belong to Favorite Oldies, btw.? So I'll move it... :)

Yeah I was not sure where to put this so I placed it in requests.

Planescape Torment is Torment indeed. Far too dull. Icewinddale is better but it lacks the storytelling element of Baldur's Gate. Baldur's Gate is precisely what a game like this needs to be. Plenty of action but also mistery and adventure.

yes, i own it. The only good thing about it was creating the character, then the fun stops.

(in other words, i hate it)

Yes I own the 6 CD BG1. I really enjoyed it. But for me Planescape: Torment was much better. Quite linear - especially at a bit later stage, but man I loved that storyline! For me, PS-T is the best, than BG2, directly followed by BG1.
I didn't like Icewind Dale 2 too much. Too much just combat, and nothing else. IWD1 I never tried.

That is the best game ever!

I have:
BG + ToSC
BG2 + ToB
Planescape: Torment
IWD 1&2

Picard, I'm sorry you think that way about Torment. It's definitely the most original of these games and the total opposite of dull.
The only one where your attributes like INT or WIS really affect the game.

What I said before, I also loved Planescape. But I think it helps if you have played AD&D (pen&paper) in the planescape setting.

But, unlike in Baldur's Gate II (perhaps 1 too), your alignment there doesn't affect anything when it changes to evil one - same dialogues, same options, so this one point is not that good.

Torment for me was too slow. It took ages for your character to even cross the room. Then there was the endless conversations with everyone about nothing in perticulair. Occasionally something would end up in your journal and that would be important.

There is talk of Baldur's Gate 3 being in the works. Since the story has been finished in ToB I wonder what it will bring? Black Isle is not developing this one though.

Yes, it seems to worked upon, but if it comes out, I doubt it will be the same Baldur's Gate game - other story perhaps, not the same feeling...

That's because your actions determine the alginment... so it's the otherway around. You do get alignment-specific options in the dialogues, like:
1 [promise] 'I'll kill you if you don't answer'
2 [lie] 'I'll kill you if you don't answer'
3 'Please answer' ;)
4 'If you don't answer, I'll be pissed'

Which ones are the evil ones...

But it only affects the dialogues (like in NWN too, btw.) and nothing more. In Baldur's Gate II there are more possibilities / restrictions with being evil. For example, being evil allows you to get the quest from one side of the demons for killing the other demon's side in the Watcher's Keep in the addon Throne of Bhaal. If you are good or neutral, there's no such possibility, they just attack you then.

I have every Baldur's Gate game, although I much prefer Planescape - Torment over them. I love the dialog aspects of the game, and I really don't like the combat system too much. Torment was such a deep game, I REALLY loved it, it's one of the best games I've ever played. Baldur's Gate was okay, but it really just wasn't my type of game. I don't know what it was, it was decent, it just wasn't great like Torment was. There was too much emphasis on combat, I think.

I remember quests in NWN where the enemy would act according to your class.For example:
You are given a quest to kill some outlaws.If you are evil, when you meet them, they will say something like "don't kill us, and we'll share the loot!"I f you are Paladin they would attack on sight

Im quite surprised you dont like torment it was such a great game, i wont go on about execpt to say that i cant see how u consider the diolouge dull when u consider that at one statge you RIP YOUR EYE BALL OUT OF YOUR SOCKET AND REPLACE IT WITH A PREVIOUS EYEBALL FROM A SEPERATE INCARNATE. classic fun man

well becuase alignmnet was such a swinging pendulum it was one of the games best part imo. ur being a nice guy the whole game till suddenly you just absoultly lose it and sell your other party members into slavery to get a good spell, i mean you actions wernt limited by what the computer told you your alignment was, ur actions were limited (or enhanced) by the morals that you actully lived by. i dont know if im making sense here so ill stop, different strokes for different folks i guess.

yeah i actully read an interview with the guys that are planning it basicly its not going to be about the bhall spawn what so ever, there just making a new game about totaly unrelated stuff and using the previous games good name to increase sales. which i dont have a problem with as long as they make a good game

Only some rare exceptions (at least in the original NWN - didn't play the addons yet). There are many more such possibilities in Baldur's Gate II than in any other, I guess.
But let's return back to the topic. :wink:

Okay have you played NWN??
Almost all the side quests in the game are influenced by alignment or class.
Regarding to the curent topic, i can't wait to try BG, especially the first part

You really should. If you love NWN, then I'm sure you'd also thing BG1+2 are great! I would suggest to start really with BG1, and then BG2, since it really is a contineous story-line.

I did not say there was nothing to laugh about. I did find many things to laugh at but it was not enough for me to save the game.

I don't mind another storyline either. The last one was ended with ToB anyway. I just hope the game as a whole lives up to the Baldur's Gate Moniquer.

i hope the put servok in number 3 - he is the bomb

I own all the infinity engine games too, great stuff. My take,
Baldurs Gate 1 &2-Great games all around, great story, great game mechanics, and you were never limited to following the storyline.
Icewind Dale 1 & 2- Good games, but only for a little while. The hack and slash gets repetitive, and lack of story hurts, but I really enjoyed being able to make your whole party.
Planescape Torment- Great game, amazing storyline, just in general a lot of fun, it lacked a wide selection of party members, also the ending was waaaaay too easy.
Neverwinter Nights-Blah, that's all I have to say. My interpretation, two big execs sitting in an office, "Hey, I got an idea, we'll make a game that's based on the D&D setting, and instead of using the amazinf Infinity Engine like in the last games we made, we'll make an entirely new system similar to Diablo II!!"
-Sean

With the new 3D-graphics! This would bring us money!
:wink:

yeah nwn sucked :(
anyone ever play bg 2 multipalyer? was it good omg post ur experiences!! ;p

I wish I could play Baldur's Gate 2 in Multiplayer, but there was no one to play with at that time... :rolleyes:

yeah i once played BG 1 mulitplayer with some guy on gamespy, he didnt know about the cheats and i lv'ed my char in front of him to prove there was cheats and hes like oh my god can you do that to my charecters


lol, its been a while sense ive played ToB and im going to replay it sometime, i might see about making it a multiplayer game

I actually still play it once in a while, it's making much fun even after playing it for 7-9 times... ;)

u still play BG 1?
did u ever look at the modifacation that made both bg 1 and 2 liek one game?
its a 700mg download it seems interesting, from what i gather u might be able to use the charecters form bg 2 like the monk, that arnt in number 1
number 1 would be alot better with the feats and stuff, ill have to check that out

Nope, I meant I still play Baldur's Gate II + Addon, I don't have Baldur's Gate 1 (yet), but I will buy it someday too. ;)

I recently started a new Baldur's Gate game. That's why I placed this topic up. BG2 is better but this is still nice.

the day i found the ring of wizardy under the tree @ bergost was totally amazing, one of the best rings in the game totaly free and right at the start
(obvisly i found it with a walkthru i didnt just stumble upon it)

I'm not sure I ever saw that one. Which tree would that be and how fo you get the ring?

lol find a walk though or somthing (ill take a look around too tho) the only way u can find it is if u know EXACTLY where to find it, its located in a container that is invisble and u have to put ur mouse over the perfectly right pixel to see it, bascily the walkthrough says mouse cooradinates X and Y and then u use the console to see where ur mouse is and then move it accordinly.

the ring istelf only works for wizards, its like for ever X number of levels you have u get X number of extra first level spells. I think thats it anyways, ist lev spells arnt anything to brag about but you end up being able to cast about 16 magic missiles so it can be pretty powerful

Hmm, such a ring doesn't appear in Baldur's Gate 2... And I thought all items from first game were implemented there... :blink:
Actually not all for find or buy, but you can insert the missing with the console - and that Ring of Wizardry isn't there... B)

Its in the second one RING08 add it try it out its pretty kool

"Ring of Wizardry: 'Reaching Ring'
This ring is masterfully enchanted, allowing the wearer to memorize more spells than normally possible. It was originally commissioned by spellcaster <CHARNAME>, apparently at great monetary and personal cost.

STATISTICS:

Spells: Gives one extra fifth level spell, one extra sixth level spell and one extra seventh level spell"

altho thats a different description and statistics to the first game its prolly more powerful in number 2

also you know how when loading a charecter from number one u lose ur items well if u pause the game right as it starts up and at the right moemnt u can go into ur inventory and drop all ur stuff, so this way u get to keep all the good stuff u had from the first one

Yep, I know that trick, but I usually play the game rather in Multiplay-mode, so I can import characters every time again.
Yep, that ring I know of, I used it often enough, too. Just didn't thought it's the same one, as it has other specs like it has in the first part...

Yeah its a bit weird how they changed it i guess they never relly intended ppl to have the ring in the first place without cheating as u would ever noramlly find it

Well, in Baldur's Gate 2 you get it, after you do that Planar Sphere quest from Valygar. When you finally bring the necromancer out, he'll die and leave the ring among other things behind, so this ring is legitim in the second part. :D

relly? i dont remember that, its an odd description then cause it says u had it made how'd the lich get it

Yep, I always wondered too about the weird description, as I didn't play the first part yet. But this is where you get it. ;)

I remember having it in the second part and also in the first game. In plain Baldur's Gate you get a ring of Wizardry in Baldur's gate itself. A great ring and the only way you will make some use of your wizards since they are so powerless in the early game.

I tried finding a walkthrough already but could not find anything about that ring in the ones I found.

It's from Dirty Little Helper, a cheats-without-end dedicated program and also you can visit their website at: http://dlh.net/

Thanks I'll try that right away.

Do you know where that guy stood when he said directly east?

Here it's more detailled:

Ahh, thanks. Now that helps.

Have fun! http://forum.giga.de/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

Is that relly an adaquate description of where to find it, i remeber it being a total pain in the ass to find personally

I found the ring of wizardry easy enough but the other one I still have not found. I'll try again when I have some time to spare.

okay whats your favouite npc in bg 1 or 2?

mine is jan jansen, he is relly relly funny, i never get tired of listen to that guy piss of the others

I can't remember who I thought was the most fun. Noober who kept following you around was a good laugh.

Which you can meet reincarnated in Baldur's Gate II, too. He's in the Trademeet and his name this time is Neeber.
He also torments you there, but when you give him a chance and let him bother you, he'll leave then and leaves 1000 EXP and some sling-stones as a reward. :P

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okay whats your favouite npc in bg 1 or 2?

mine is jan jansen, he is relly relly funny, i never get tired of listen to that guy piss of the others[/quote]
Mine is Korgan Bladefist and Mazzy Fentan, which are both good fighters. I prefer Mazzy more often, though, because she has higher AC through her high dexterity. This is helpful further in the game where the enemies become more touch.

The best NPC by far is Minsc. Give him the talking sword (Lilacor) in BGII, they will be a goofy team.

The other, altough not an NPC is the imp in TOB, Cespenar. His dialogs are the best. :D

Minsc is cool enough said.

Baldur's Gate 2 had more humor in it then 1. I think they got bolder after making 1. At first they feared ru?ning the atmosphere of the D&D world with too much humor but after 1 they decided it wouldn't. They were right.

Icewinddale is different in that there is still the trademark humor but much less and I think that also works well with the atmosphere they tried to create in that game. Too much humor would have ruined the mistique of the North that surrounds the game.

i did like the Minsc`s pet ...

You mean the one he carries or the one you can insert? :sneaky:

Luckily they only make one rude joke about that and that is at the very beginning of the second game.

Yeah Baldur's Gate III is in development. I hope Atari has good judgment on passing it to a developer with some quality and hopefully no rushing them!!! Somehow I still hope that Bioware would be doing it but I know its impossible since they already have their hands full. But most developers starts from a nobody (Blizzard, BioWare) so some trust is important.

Again with the resurrection thing. For discussing this game, you should try this thread:

Baldur's Gate

It is quite more recent, and not full of already dissapeared members.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tito @ Feb 15 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]279313[/snapback]</div>now that you mention it...some even dated back to 2004...