Hmmm???
Ok, list a graphic novel (if you know of any) and a actual book, as in one with words, and no, picture books do not count, take that Buzz the Bunny goes Home guy!
So....
Whats your favorite?
And notice that its favorite, not best meaning that, "great" books like the Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men aren't necissarily, the best choice, sure they are good books, but some of em can be ind of borring, in my opinon of course, I'm sure there aree tons of people out there who love them.
And say the authors name also.

Mine:
Graphic Novel:The Watchmen -Alan Moore
Book: Not sure yet....

Graphic Novel: Haven't read many, I wanted to buy The Watchmen a few days ago as I'm a fan of Moore's but then I found it was ?18 which is bloody extortionate. As for my favourite, that would probably be From Hell my Alan Moore, it's scope and the picture it painted were brilliant. And there's also Superman: Red Son, it's what it would be like if Superman had crashed into the earth 8 hours later than he did and so ended up in the Ukraine as a communist. I strays dangerous near US flagwaveing but it's still pretty good.

Proper book: Don't know really, I've read lots of good books. I like 1984, A Clockwork Orange (bet you didn't see that one coming). I'm also a fan of James Clavell's I've read King Rat, which was superb, and I've in the process of reading Shogun, it's good so far and apartenly the true cleverness of the book only comes to the fore once you've made considerable progress through the book. I'll probably think of a brilliant book that I loved and forgot to put in here a bit later, but oh well, that's what I thought of at this moment. Oh, and I'm also a Discworld fan :whistle:

Oh yes, Shogun....I love that book, I just got Gai-Jin yesterday, Jappanese culture is always interesting.
The Watchmen is really good, but I don't think is worth quite that much.

Hard to say for normal book... close call between Expedition Kon-Tiki, by Thor Heyerdahl, and Nightwatch, by Terry Pratchett. As for graphic novel, I'd go with The Scorpion, by Marini-Desberg, or One Piece, by Eichiiro Oda.

I just read Michael Crichton's Prey. That's a cool book about nano-technology and it's A thriller! couldn't stop reading and spent some loooong evenings reading it!

errmm ... what's a graphic novel ? a comic ?

"graphic novel" is a term used by people who write or read comic-books but think this sounds too embarassing or not sophisticated enough ;)

Favourite books?

- A Clockwork Orange (don't care much for the movie, though)

- The Short Timers

- The first three "Hitchiker"-books

- American Psycho

- Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (in this case, the film is ALSO very good :ok: )

- The Dirt

- Michael the Finn by Mika Waltari (not really sure if that's the correct english title, though)

- "Rumo und die Wunder im Dunkeln", "Die 13 1/2 Leben des Käpt'n Blaubär" & "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher" along with other Stuff by Walter Moers (including some "graphic novels" :bleh: ;) ).

There are indeed quite a few more, just too lazy to list them right now...

EDIT: as for "graphic novels"... don't really care too much for those, really... though I still kinda like the old ORIGINAL "Ninja Turtles"-stuff by Eastman/Laird... :max:

Not every comic book is a graphic novel... there's a big difference

BTW my favorites graphic novels are:

Batman: The Killing Joke and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns

I never said that. But every "graphic novel" is basically just a comic book :D ;)

I enjoy Shakespeare a lot. King Lear, Hamlet, Romeo & Juliet :D
Farenheit 451 (by Ray Bradbury...also Martian Chronicles by him was really cool), Heart of Darkness (by Joseph Conrad). I REALLY liked reading Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton. :ok:

As for "graphic novels" or whatever you want to call them...not much of a fan :whistle:

Graphic Novel - Optic Nerve by Adrian Tomine

Literary endevour - Dreams with Sharp Teeth by Harlan Ellison

You're right, but most of the graphic novels are intended for mature readers, and that's the difference with ordinary comic books.

You're right, but most of the graphic novels are intended for mature readers, and that's the difference with ordinary comic books. [/b][/quote]
Indeed, from example, there is a huge differnece between From Hell and The Amazing Spiderman...

And Swiss, I read Prey quite a while ago, its a verry good book, but I'm not sure if its my favorite, Micheal Chrichton is a good writer though.

fav book is either Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, or Stars My Destination.

I think Stars My Destination is the greatest science fiction story ever written.

Graphic novels would be maybe the Sandman series - particularly Fables & Reflections - or Lucifer: Mansions of the Silence (listen to Ship of Fools while reading that one :D)

As for actual books, erm, maybe Flowers for Algernon, Nineteen Eighty-Four or A Series of Unfortunate Events. I really like Pratchett's Soul Music and Moving Pictures too.

If we're talking non-fiction, I can't recommend Richard Dawkins' The Ancestor's Tale (or most of his other books in fact) enough. That man is a genius.

That's just why I so much like to make fun of it LOL
I mean, everyone calls a movie a movie, no matter if it's made for kids or adults. To me, it's just nitpicking because some people fear to be laughed at for admitting to read comic books... ;)

Book, I would say Plato's The Republic, but I doubt it is the kind of book we are talking about, so I have to say John Green's Mystery of B 29. BUT, the problem is I had this book in greek, and now I can't even find a mention of him or his book anywhere... spooky.

For graphics novels there are two, unfortunately I do not remember titles. :-(
Both of them had EXCELLENT art. Far better than anything I had/have ever seen before.
The one had a "knights of the round table" story only that it was set in the future with aliens and space etc. Where earth has been invaded and only the UK is still free, or that the UK is capture and the rest is free...perfect graphic novel.
The other one was again a sci fi, with aliens in it and cities that had use of huge huge walls and one main hero I think.
Both of them had similar art and I am sure they were published by the same people. They were very very violent (with limbs flying around) and also very cool stories and characters. I wish I could remember any names/titles :-( I am looking for them again for years now without any luck.

Oh yeah, in one of the two the alien invaders had another alien species working for them that looked like skeleton warriors in size, but had meat and blood and all, they were green in colour and they could remove theyr limbs to contruct bridges and things. (meaning piling up and using theirs as lego or something).

OK.....I found the title of the first of the two graphic novels, spooky too! After all these years I found it on my own....
Camelot 3000 http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/4273/general3.html

I don't agree with him/her on the score, but the book is very good :-)

Now, any leads for the other one? Hmm.

Book of Magic Missile! :D

I prefer the Book of Golems, but that's beside the point.

The Carpet people is quite good, I'm not really sure what my favourite is though.

I liked the recent version of the Fantastic Five though (the film was cloying donkey shite, the 'comics' were really good)

Ack, I didn't really care for that one, it was ok I guess, but I guess after all the hype you hear about it I expected it to be a bit better...

Favorite book hmmm, that's a tough one. I'll think on that one. If you mean any sort of book I'd have to say Deadlands: Unity... or did you mean actual literature? :whistle: :sneaky:

Favorite comic though is a tie. I love both Millers 300 and Ennis' Preacher. They're both cheesy schlock, but I kinda like cheesy schlock.

But do you call porn "movies" movies, or just porn? Just because one medium draws the line in one place and another draws the line in elsewhere is no reason to disparage the line. Not that I disagree with you, but I just felt like playing devils advocate.

I read Plato's "Politeia" as well. Besides that I have read, "Symposium", "Euthyfron", Sokrates' Defence, "Kriton" and "Faidon". But I'm more of a Machiavellian. His well known, "Il Principe" (often mistranslated as "The Prince", it should be "The Ruler") is worth reading and takes only an hour or so to get through. Less well known, more volumes and more worth the effort however is "Discorsi" (full title, "Discorsi sopra la prima deca di Tito Livio"). A treaties of the first ten books of Titus Livius.
All these books are favorites of mine and anyone interrested in the art of the state cannot do without reading these. They are very complicated and you do need someone to explain it all (I certainly did) for you but once you are through it all the world will make more sense to you.

My favorite book is "1984" from George Orwell...

I agree, the above books are a must for anyone willing to learn more about how things work.
I studied them for good only when I first went to the university, and they are still some of the best time spent in my life.

The problem is when you say to others that you not only like but agree with say Plato, then they say you are a fascist pig etc etc. Ah, who cares.

:D

I'm currently reading into Plato, so...

Indeed it's "porn movie". Even if not, you also don't call a drama a "drama movie" either. That's called "genre", but "graphic novel" is not a genre and especially not a different genre than comic book... ;)

Where to start...
There are so many books I enjoyed, that it's really hard to choose a favorite, but here are some that first pop to mind:
2001 - Arthut C. Clarke
The Case of Dr. Karpeta -Jaroslav Boček
Waiting for Godot - Samuel Becket
On the Road - Jack Caruac
Hitchhiker's Guide (first 4 books - right up the the Good-bye and thanks for all the Fish)
Antigona - Sofokles
The Name of the Rose - Umberto Eco

Favourite comic - undoubtably Asterix!

It's a play, not a book (which I have no doubt you know).

I agree, best, still known, play in the history of the world.

Well I know it's a play - but I still read it bound together as a book. The topic didn't say - your favorite PROSE, so I guess books with poems could count too (but there aren't really any I liked).
That's why I also put Antigona in there... I'd prefer not reading it as a book, but on the original scrolls though, but that can only remain a fantasy :angel:

I read Antigone last year, and thought it was excellent :D

:ot: True, but to qualify as a graphic novel it also must be a compilation of comic books, often covering an entire story arc. That is often the difference between a comic and a graphic novel (so I guess that my analogy would have been better if I had compared using a tv series and a movie).

Favourite book? Well, here are the first three I could think of.

- Master & Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov. The best book you've (n)ever read. Intelligent satire and tragedy.

- On the Road by Jack Kerouac. A splendid road-story with a high influence.

- The Poor Mouth by Flann O'Brien. A hilarious account on the poverty of the Irishmen.

EDIT: I'm not much of a comic reader, but the best I've read would probably be some of the Usagi Yojimbo stuff.

Well you're right - it's a good book, but unfortunately I have grown to dislike it. I was forced reading it - and interpreting it according to the teacher's political believes (it was still in the time of Communism in Yugoslavia when it was first translated into Slovene). That really killed every chance of mine to like it. Maybe I should try and re-read it again...

Also before I forgot to mention Hemmingway - I like most of his work!

I think you definitely should read it again, and try to see the other points of view it offers. The genius of Master & Margarita is that it can be intrepreted in numerous of ways, and still it stays fresh. You might want to try an English translation, too; the Finnish one I found was really inferior to the English edition I had read earlier, as it failed to emphasise the correct occurances and left the story impaired.

I read A Farewell to Arms a while back, and was very confused. I can't understand why it is regarded so highly, as I found the text very primitive (something a teenager could probably muster out at the writing class), and the story wasn't really much of a story. Of course the concept has been used a billion times since and thus has lost much of its effect, but surely there must be something else worth enjoying that I have missed in it?

Well Hemmingway was an author who distanced himself... I mean in Ferwell to Arms (BTW have you seen the old movie with Carry Grant) he's an American involved in the war before America joined WW1. He came for adventure, experianced the war only as a slight inconveniace and left when he was fed up with it.

There was no heroism about it, no patriotism, just a cinical drunk who came, stayed a while and moved on untouched by what was happening. I prefer his For Whom the Bell Tolls or The Old Man and the Sea...
But the main thing was - he's not emotionally involved.
Vompared to Camus - who wanted to control the feelings, by telling The Stranger what to Feel, Hemmingway has a real life cinic - who's emotionally almost untouched by the WW1 - which was a big shocker to the entire world.
It would be like if somebody wrote a book about a janitor in the WTC, how he survied the 9/11 and the only comment would be - at least I don't have to worry about that leak on the 180th floor... The concept was what made it so extraordinary and that perspective on the world (at least that's what I think).

Cycle of the werewolf count for a graphic novel?

I love that book, and it originally was going to be a calendar.

Regular book..changes quite a bit but I love the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings series