Life and Death 2 - The Brain
 

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

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At last!!! :Brain:

Have fun :ok:

Ok this is scary, I decided to "make" my patient have a subdural hematoma so I could practice this is pretty bad in it's self. I didn't examine the patient but this is the scary part, the patient DID! have a subdural hematoma and even more scarily I correctly guessed the correct side! And I performed the operation successfuly! Im gonna go hide in the corner now in fear of this creepy guess.

Hehey I love this game for one reason - you can carve your own name in a patient's head.

Fine, this is totally sick, but it's good for some amusing pictures!

Hi ! this is a cool and strange game, but it has a number of flaws in my view. The procedures are much to schematic and always pretty much the same (of course in real life, doctors are not supposed to make experiments either, but well, this is a game). There exists a third version of Life and Death where you have to be
a hearth surgeon.
It is funny to be a bit sadistic though, like sticking a pin in the patient's eye or
drilling around in a patient's brain. Too bad that you are caught quickly.
Greets,

uhhhhhh... i don't have the stomach for this game :sick: ewww.... I tried operating and... jesus christ it was a bloody mess. Oh well, just another reason I'll never be a doctor I suppose. :D :D

that third version isn't anymore life and death series, it is virtual surgeon: open heart.
if you mean't that. the life and death series and the virtual surgeon have same designer though... the desingers name is Dr. Myo Thant... and virtual surgeon isn't abandonware..... :D

hi i think this game is brilliant but i cant get the sound to work properly
i am running it on win xp but in dosbox i have also tried to run it in vdm sound but the sound doesnt work in that either
anyone got any ideas how i can get the sound to work properly?

Hot Time, Said Bubs. :ok:

Hey, ok how come everytime I load the game the mouse like stops after 1 second after I choose someones name...its so messed can someone help me or has anyone else experienced this?

Well George I will write this quicky just to answer the question. I have had this problem and I solved it by not using windows xp and trying the game on another computer with just windows 95 and using pure dos.
It's a common problem. Try using dosbox and if that doesn't work, make a boot disk with dos and a mousedriver. =) Happy incising.

My friend and I BOTH had this problem. When we downloaded LND2, and tried to play it, the whole game froze a couple seconds after you load a profile. Neither of us know what to do. Can anyone help?

My friend george already asked that :P nevermind

The whole freeze-up thing happened for me, too, until I loaded the game using dosbox. try it, and if it still doesn't work reply.

:help: Ok thanks for that I got DOS bot, and I read the Z:/help thing...and i still don't get it, can some one jsut do a step by step THANKS :sniper: (sorry that just looks cool)

I'm having the same freezing problem. the only way i have been able to get it working is restarting the game over and over. but it freezes about 5 minutes in. please help!!

yeah im having the same problem, freezes after one second, ive tried it in my machine running xp sp2 and an other machine p1, 200 running 95 same prob, any help would be hughly appriciated, as i really wanna play this game

ps i read the post about making a boot disk with a mouse driver, could somone please talk me through this

Ok people here is how you fix it i had problems with this my self.

The mouse stop working after you sign in because of a problem with the sound all you have to do is load it in DOSBox by draging the L&D2 EXE file onto the DOSBox EXE file then go to your office and turn the sound off using the clipboard on your desk then exit the game by click at the top of the screen.

After this load it up and it should work fine, hope it helps. :)

OK, step by step:

1. Install the game into a folder (for examle c:\LifeDeath\)
2. Install DosBox
3. Run DosBox
4. Type into dosbox (without the quotes) "mount p: c:\LifeDeath\"
5. Type (without the quotes) "p:"
6. Type (without the quotes) "ld2"
7. Enjoy the game

Hope that helps.
- :angel:

It works! :ok:

Thanks for uploading it guys :D I really enjoyed messing around with the first one, and this one is a whole lot better.

hey there. okay... i know all the dosbox stuff, but the sound is all garbled when i play it in dosbox. the music is fine but the digitized sounds are really crappy. soooo crappy. craptastic. when i ask them to say alice the say alishhhchh. and that's when they're healthy when i comes to that respect. the ekg meter blip is all scratchy, as well as all intercom speech. like i said all digital sound is weird. any fixes?

Even in dosbox i can not get sound to work

it's turned off by default. you gotta turn it on by using the clipboard in your office.

As i said before :ok:

i have the same problem
the sound is switched on but it is garbled
anyone know how to fix this problem?

Yes mine freezes up too. I am running in dosbox, tried with sound on and off. Everytime when cutting through the dura it freezes. I get some weird lines across the screen and then it locks.... oh well was fun while it lasted.

Hey I'm a new member, just today and all, but I have this weird problem. Whenever I play Life and Death 2 (although the sound is rather bad) the game always quits when I'm operating on a patient. Whenever I have to open the skull for tumors, or stuff like that, it quits. So I drill the 4 borr holes in the scalp and remove the scalp piece, then use that drill bit to clear up the edges, and then use the metal plate and the fine drill piece to drill 4 separate small holes and put the string through them, but then I think (from what I remember) I'm supposed to use the scalple to cut along the edge of the bone, but everytime I start to cut at all along the bone edge the game suddenly quits, displays about 6-10 lines of text really quickly and then dosBox closes completely.

Has anyone else had this problem or is it just me?
Thanks guys

I've had a similar problem... the game works fine and performing a hematoma surgery is no problem, but whenever I try my hand at an aneurysm or brain tumor, the game crashes as soon as I get to the point in which I have to drill small suture holes in the skull plate I remove.

More specifically: I flip the skin flap, drill the burr holes, I dissect them, I saw the line between them, I remove the bone plate, bone-wax and cauterize the bleeders, smooth the sphenoid ridge, bone-wax the bleeders again, place the metal ribbon, make the small suture holes on the skull, then I place back the bone plate into place to make the suture holes in it as well, I drill the suture holes, but as soon as I pick the bone plate back up to place it on the tray, the mouse disappears and weird lines of color appear wherever I move it. If I actually manage to place the bone plate on the tray, the whole tray becomes nothing more than a series of strings of messy colors, and I have no other way to solve the issue than exit the surgery.

I'm running the game on DOSbox 0.63 installed on a Windows XP operating system... anyone else had the same problem?

Game doesn't even start in dosbox... Complains something about 'illegal command' and Unable to change to: (location of the game in HD). Help please? Same thing happens with Life and Death.

ok well looks like some problems I will take a look and see what I can do to fix it.

For DOS box you must have at least a 1.5ghz CPU and 256MB ram to run it and a bit more for music & sound, but as all games like this is I recommend you run it in pure DOS not DOSBox.

And your meant to remove the metal ribbon before you make the suture holes.

The screen going black with funny colors I will have to look in to.

I neeeeed sound to preform my operations properly for the blips of the ekg and more importantly the pitch of the drill (I keep drilling my patients brain into mush)

my game didn't allow me to drill when i had the sound on... it just drilled and drilled and so on.....
and you dont even need the sound to make drilling holes complete. when there comes a hole you just stop. you dont need sound for that.

This game is Heavy Metal! But while the diagnostic are too easy (and boring),
the actual operating is too hard. But, after being thrown out many times (Get out, you Quack...) I got it right and it RULES!


thehe...the warning when exiting the game is funny, too.

I already thought of looking into my cat's brain.....

No, just kidding, I love cats and wouldn't do that to ANY animal....

Humans, now..... :twisted:

MUAHAHHAHHAHA

it's true that the diagnosis gets too boring too fast. especially when you have lots of morphine or cocaine addicts...

hey im back on life and death 2 again wooo LOL Ok for the freezing problem if any of the previous suggestions dont work look on the life and death 1 forum someone uploaded a crack for me and the game works fine. HOWEVER one problem i have which someones mentioned is the funny colours when trying to put the flap back on it just makes the screen alot of funny colours and i havent found a way around this problem :(

From your description, that sounds just like the problem I described... except that in my case it is triggered when I try to remove the skull plate for the second time, after having replaced it in order to make suture holes in it (and of course, after having removed the ribbon).

I cannot play the game... !!! I need to play!! LOL
There is an error: something like this - "MS-DOS subsystem at 16bits" ... "C:\windows\system32\autoexec.nt. The sytem file is not the adequated to execute MS-DOS and other windows programs." Can you help me??


Sorry about my terrible english, but it's hard to translate word by word.

Tx :help:

yep Copy "autoexec.nt" and "config.nt" files from "C:/Windows/Repair" to "C:/Windows/System32".
hope that helps :) This also helps with games like red alert 1 for xp *in which the same error comes up*

and you should also make them to "read only" files

Somebody Knows how to do in the tumor op? When i have it located with the ultrascan, and try to succion it, they say me "haven´t you forgot something".
Please tell me what to do.
Sorry my english is poor

I had this problem too that mouse freze after1 second ! BUT! I ve restarted games 3 times and the mouse go normal!! U must start the game load the mouse freezes quit the game then try it again and again until the mouse dont go normal.

hey guys!

thanks for life and death, i am loving it!
one question tho... they keep asking me to look at the patients history,

where do i find the patients history??

if anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated
in the mean time i'll be in my room sharpening my scalpals!!

ferg

patients history is the the wooden thingy with papers on it (i don't know the correct english word :D ) above the patients head in the wall
i think..

hie....im using windows xp to play this game....after installing....i click at ld2.exe...the screen goes blank,....as in to start a ms dos game....but after few seconds.....it comes back to my desktop...can anyone tell me how to solve this?....or where to get and download this game at a good source...pls pls pls....i really want to play this game....thanks!!!!!

When I try to start the game, after the screen with the brain in a jar, L&D 2 freezes. I tried starting the game with DOSBox v0.63, but DOSBox quits after ~2 seconds. Does anybody know how to fix this ?

BTW, my OS is Windows 98 SE, if that helps.
:help:

The only thing I can suggest is that you try VDMSound. I hope it helps.

That said, this game is great, although I suck at it.

Doctor - "you chose to operate on wrong side of the brain"

Me - "Oh, crap. Not again" :D

LOL that happens to me too. It's also a bigger problem in the world than the medical authorities would let you know.

Did you also know that in around 15% of operations the surgeons accidently leave something in?

I actually had a sponge left in me after I have an operation for pluracy.

A sponge ! My god ! :sick:

I know how to help u :ok: in the game just turn of the music ok.I ve turned of the music and it doesnt freeze anymore.If u want to start the game u must start the game than fast click to skip intro some window should come out than dont clck on exit but something else i dont remember.If the window doesnt come out then quit game and start it again and again until the window doesnt come out.Next u know pick our name and the game shouldnt freeze until the next start.than click on your office than click on the files on the desk and there are options and click to turn music off.I hope it will work because it worked on my computer.I am glad to help :angel:

The game freezes for me too after i sign in.(I have xp) you just have to wait one or two minutes and then it works again. sound and every thing.

has someone successfully completed the aneurysm op?
that is, any hints what to do after the silvan-fissure cut and brain-retraction?

Nevermind, I've just made it.
For all the fans of LD2 out there, I've updated the Wiki-page with detailed images of the aneurysm op.

Hey there! I need some help operating the subdural hematoma! When I put the drain in the burr hole I can't suture it up! And also when I kill the guy and attend to the class the teacher tells me I didn't place the drain correctly! After all, how do I place the drain correctly? I'm doing this operation for the 1000000th time and can't get it right!
(If you didn't know, you can backup the file "doctors.dat" before the operation. If you screw up just close the game, overwrite "doctors.dat" with the backed-up file and re-open the game.)

I know subdubal operation first open skull u found a crack start irrigating on it and drill with the drill stop when u make hole when u make hole take scalpel and make incision in the hole.U see blood than drain it hold it until the blood is drained than open the first cabinet theres some another drain place it there u will se that is some drain in the hole on the skin wheres the drain place suction and close the scalp u know how right.Just read instructions in the class.ok

Place the drain with the *left* end in the hole, it will be then laid over the bone and the scalp. Then place one (only one!) suture on the drain some 3 mm below the rainey clips, a black line should appear if you've done it right.

It's me, the one who asked about the drain.
Gyuokuran, by "left" you mean I should place the "u" hook-like side of the drain in the hole? I could put only one extremity of the drain into the hole, because the hematoma is too right in the screen and the cursor won't reach it. I'll try to do what you said, but I'm not sure if i got it right. Thanks anyway. :Brain:

this games is hard

Nah... it didn't work. Maybe I should post a screenshot...

First off, this game rocks! Secondly, I think when you put the drain or something similar in you don't actually see it there. And for all the problems in installing/playing it, try this:
1.Get DOSBOX.
2. Make sure you have every file needed to run the game
3. Put the game somewhere like right in yout hard drive, such as the path would be C:/lifeanddeath2 so when you mount it all you type is "mount x c:/lifeanddeath2" and it will work.
4. If this fails, make sure you have a compatible system.

I have tried these and after months of this game not working, I finally achieved sucess with DOSBOX. Hope this helped! :D

I've added some hematoma images to the wiki. I hope that helps.

I'm running it in DOSBox, but for some reason it won't let me test arm reflexes. This is rather annoying as it means I can never complete a diagnosis properly.

Life and death 2 is easy once you know what your doing, as for this sound error READ the review it will tell you how to fix it.

some other errors i have found

after drilling suture holes in bone flap and go to put it back screen goes funny

after opening bone flap cannot stop bleeding have to go and remove fish hooks

oh and my guide for L&D2 is ready.

Cool, get it posted.

chickenman: happened to me too, the solution is to put the bone-flap back on during the closing procedure und bore the holes then. Works like a charm.

After removing the bone-flap you must use bone-wax (for the edges) and the cauterizer (for the dura).
After using the ridge-drill use only the bone wax.
During the dura flap incision use the cauterizer.
And there is a well made wiki already online.

i have tryed all this but once the skull is open i cannot stop the bleeding at all

By the way how are you running L&D2 ?
I am running it in Windows 98 SE DOS

(note: if you are having this problem with the bleeding put the bone flap back in and remove the fish hooks, then reopen and the bleeding should have stoped but blood in the IV will still go down.)

I will add a FAQ to the next version of my guide that will be out very soon.
And my guide also covers all the basics plus there is extra medical information in it that you will not find in the game.

I'm running it in DosBox (in linux).

The timing is very important when using the cauterizer - you have to hold it for a short time over the bleeder - sweeping it over quickly won't do it. After you've dealt with several bleeders use the cotton swab to see what bleeders pop up.

Check this out:
http://gameinfo.wikicities.com/wiki/Guide:...h_II:_The_Brain

Gyokuran, thanks for the screenshots!

i try to play ld2, but can :not_ok: so what i write is:
mount f f:\oldgames
f:
dir
dir lifean~2
cd ld2
but its no starting :tomato:
i'm doing behind the intro says, but cant get any game to start with "cd (a game)".

the "cd ld2" command only changes the current folder to the correct one.
you have to launch the game by typing "ld2" and pressing enter afterwards.

yeah for life and death 2 : the brain you HAVE to run it in pure DOS to get the sound and the mouse to work properly

And if you ever decide to try Life And Death 1 , here's a fun thing , start making an incision on the patient WITHOUT turning on the anesthesia . As soon as you remove the scalpel , the patient SCREAMS , even though it's PC Speaker sound it's still cool.

As for Life and Death 2 : I can do the hematoma surgeries well , but I always seem to kill em when it comes to the aneurysm and tumor surgeries , the drill goes Nuts. :bleh:

oh yeah I forgot to add , if you decide to play life and death 1 on your comp , you will need Moslo or another slower utility for the game to function properly for sounds , etc (Pentium 1 and above since it runs at normal speed on a 486)

Excuse me for the off-topic...where i can find Virtual Surgeon: Open heart?
I make my best to find it but unsuccessfull!
Thanks a lot...

I don't think that one's abandoned. Somebody mentioned in another thread it was still being sold.

Yeah, as far as I know, it's still being sold. It'll be good to have it when it gets abandoned, though.

I tried to buy too...but nothing at all, I didn't find it!
It was published in 1997, the software house went bankrupt...I find only this site

http://www.interactivemktg.com/content/ind...45/SectionID/67

but I thing I'm going off road...

Bye

I still like the old one! This game is nearly as good though. When people talk about not having the stomach for it, I think they should give it ago. Computer animations are never as bad as the real thing.

A little help with the old one: :help:
How do you return Calls as I can't figure out how.

:angry: I get the game to work in DosBox. I can successfully go throught the checkup with the patient but as soon as I go into the OR to perform surgery, the game skips it, and goes on.
Even if I diagnose it right, the game will perform the surgery for me and go on.
All I get is a goofy black screen and no cutting-the-head-open fun.
What the hell?

I play this on my Win95 machine, and when you are say... drilling the skull, or maybe sucking out a subdural hematoma, the game kinda locks up, and I end up smashing the keyboard for a key to stop the drill/sucky thing/whatever... but I end up getting the patients brain sucked out yay! Other than the sound being crappified, it freezes heaps, and sucks, it's great! :D

I found vitual surgeon on a torrent site! erm.. mininova, erm

Yes, you can download "Virtual Surgeon: Open Heart" by using the torrent system link removed but note that it is very not legal to do so.

Aw, what am I afraid of :bleh:
Where I come from (not US), we download alllll the time.

Posting illegal links here could get this site into trouble, don't - Havell

cool i've always wanted that :P *starts downloading*

On Windows XP, the game freezes just when the hospital plant is displayed... any tip to fix this?
Many thanks

Could I ask an admin to kindly remove this link?

Yes, you could. But in future please don't quote links or you make extra work for mods - Havell

errrm it's not a direct Link it's a link to a torrent site so i don't think it needs to be removed

The site is still hosting illegal downloads and so a link to it should not be on this site - Havell

hi!

i've tried to find virtual surgeon: open heart at mininova, but, there's nothing there.. could anyone help me with it? maybe someone has found a place to get it?

thanks

i can operate hematoma in less then 3 minutes now, but i have problems with the other two operations..

when i need to drill holes in the middle of bone edges, i put the ribbon, but i just can't make those holes.. assistant tells me that i miss the bone flap, but i don't want to drill it now due to the bug.. i can "make black spots" only on the ribbon, but when i try to do it on the bone edge -> flap is missing.. and when i thought that i did make holes, i could put the sutures.. :( and i can't continue the operation..

i'm using the wiki guide..

can anyone explain me how to make those holes?

thanks!

Did you read the posts above yours? No. Sorry, but no.

Yes I did, I just wanted to see if there is an "update"...

What do you mean by "update"?:huh: As far as I know Virtual Surgeon is still for sale.

I was thinking if maybe someone has found a place to d/l it..

This is a respectable site. If the game is still being sold NO ONE here would post such a link even if one might find it. That would just be wrong - so if you want the game - BUY IT!

Actually, I did contact interaktive marketing, and this is what they said:
--
The game was published in the mid-1990's. Very few copies were ever manufactured. I doubt that you would be able to find one.

Carl Knoch
--

It's maybe possible to find it --somewhere--, but I don't think that anyone would be damaged if it would be dowloaded..

My intention is not to brake the law or do anything that would give this great site a bad reputation..

I've got a really strange problem... from the CD I burned the files on, the game seems to work perfectly well, but when I try to start it after copying it to the HD, I just get a crash because of a "stack overflow" in win95 and running it from dos mode, it shows me the "intro" stuff and then dies displaying an hourglass in the upper left corner of the screen and I have to restart the system by pushing the power button... does anybody know how I can make it run?

Why does the 'Oldwarez list' say this game is ESA protected (and so is part 1)?

Because it is.

Software Toolworks is an ESA member, but as with a couple of other games ESA is looking through their fingers that we have that game.

***, L.O.L. LOL

I find it amusing how almost every unregistered user says that.

Disabling music & Fx solves the problem..but it's a little bit harder without sounds to prevent death during surgery :whistle: ...

Okay. Question and answering time! Yay. bye1.gif

Let's start.

Freezing at startup --> If you have it set to "RealSound" when you install it, it'll freeze in lots of places, but as far as the starting up one, just give it some time and it will eventually "unfreeze".

Sound problems --> Don't know about the sound problems in this version on Abandonia (Because I got my copy from someplace else), but you can disable sound by clicking on the Desk where the Receptionist is and clicking the Clipboard, then disable Music and/or sound.

DOSBox quitting on startup --> Although my Windows 2000 box runs LND2 fine in Windows it won't run it in DOSBox because for some reason it believes CONFIG.DAT is corrupted. The only fix I've found for this is to reinstall the game EACH time...which sucks. Better way to do it: Get the instalation files and install it fresh, then you can run it in Windows.

Screen garbling issues --> I apologize, I didn't catch if you were using DOSBox or Windows?

Random quitting errors such as "Incorrect instruction passed to parser, etc." --> Disable Sound or reinstall LND (From the copy on the site above) making sure "RealSound" and/or "PC Speaker" is not selected.

Any others I missed?

Sorry to double post but I don't think I can edit my "Guest" posts..I'll download the Abandonia version now and see if I can root through any more of your problems and see if they're any different.

Sorry, I just edited your post - you can tell me what you want to be re writen (I'll return the post in the previous status, but without the link to that other site).

Oh, very sorry -.- I forgot that I probably shouldn't be inadvertenetly advertising for other sites. Oops :whistle: Anyway, I'll see what can be done to rectify the scratchy sound problem and report back :D

Hey all, after rooting around on the web for a solution to our mutual dodgy sound problems, I found the following fix:

http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?...38e313c3d3bc875

Hope this helps!

i wish

will someone please tell me how to get this game working??? i have the download from the site and i have dosbox now what do i do?

I had Life and death II years ago, and now I have found it again. Thus, I have no words regarding this game (only failed to perform the cerebral tumour surgery)

I have just discover Virtual Surgeon, that´s someone before said is not abandonware. If not, is there any web I could download a demo to try this game? It looks well...

Hey! :bye:
CAn someone pleease help me! I cna;t hear anything at all on Life and Death 2! I have gone to the clipboard turned the sounds on and off and it still odsen't work, and i really need it cause i keep gatteing removed from surgery cause i cant hear the persons beep beep beep thing???!!! PPPPPLLLLEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE Help :cry: :cry: :cry:

EDIT: There's no need for huge red letters (which I changed). If people who can help are here, they'll help you. This is an active forum. If you don't get help that simply means no-one knew something helpful to tell you.

Are you playing the game directily from WinXP? Many older games are playable, but without sound. You should probably try out DOSBox (the game works flawlessly when using it).

Ok sorry for big red font :cry:
Well i downloaded it from abandonia and ran it. How do i run it in dos box?
thanks for helping :D

Please someone help me!?

please please please!!! see this is why i wrote in big red font!!! :(

Well, there's a DOSBox tutorial... but here's the shorter version.

You have the game in a "LnD2" folder right (if not rename it)?

Put the LnD2 folder directly to your X: drive (X can be either C:, D:, E: - depends on your hard-disk).
Now install DOSBox.
Run DOSBox!
Type:
mount c X:\LnD2 <press enter> (X is the drive you put the folder on)
c: <press enter>
LD2 <press enter>

And there you go!

If you want full screen press alt+enter (also to go back to window mode again).

BTW - you really should get to know DOSBox - it's THE tool to play good old games like this one :ok:

oh ok thanks if i have any problems (which i probably will knowing me!) then i will let you know! LOL! Thanks :)

it says X:LnD2 dosen't exsist?

maybe if i download life and seath 2 form somewhere else it might work is there anywhere else i can get it from?

*death

This version works perfectly (I've just re-tested it just for you).

Instead of X put in the drive letter you use.
and don't forget the \

This always works! :ok:

Right this is what ive done please tell me what i have done wrong....

I downloaded Life and Death 2 from abandonia and put it in my documents
I opened up the Life and Death 2-The brain.zip and that took me to a life and death 2 folder i double clicked on that and then double clicked on LD2.exe.
Then when i pressed "run" it didnt work so i pressed "extract all files" i did that and then ran it again and it worked........without any sound.
Then i downloaded Dosbox-0.63 from a website.
Then i copy and pasted the Life nad death 2 folder to my c drive
I then went back to DOSbox and typed in
mount c C:(backslash it wont work on this reply)LnD2 and pressed enter nad it said it didnt exsixt?
Now you knoe EVERYTHING! LOL! Please help?

do i have to copy and paste life and death 2 folder into DOSbox.exe??? please help i really dont undrestand???

Extract the contents of the zip to your desktop. There is now a folder on your desktop, called Life and Death 2.
Go to c:\program files\dosbox 0.63 in Windows Explorer (or where ever it is located).
Drag and drop the folder on your desktop into the dosbox exe.
Now it should be mounted correctly.
Type in: ld2.exe
Now you're ready to slice some brains!

OK, the other method:

rightclick on DOSBox.exe and select copy
go to the folder with your Life and Death 2 game
rightclick and select paste shortcut
now click (and hold the mouse button) on the LD2.exe file, and drag that file on top of the Shortcut to DOSBox.exe file (the one you just made), then release the mouse button
this should also start the game

when i drag the LD2.exe over the DOSbox.exe it dosnrt do anything???

Yes it does?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/MasterMC/ld.jpg

OK, last try from me:

1. Download DOSBox.63
2. Install DOSBox.63
3. Download Life and Death 2 - The Brain (from this site)
4. Extract the downloaded file (you'll get a folder)
5. Make sure this folder is named LnD2
6. Move this folder to c: (so it's only C:\LnD2)
7. Run DOSBox
8. Type the following (and press enter at the end of each line):
mount c c:\
c:
CD lnd2
ld2

And there it should be!

omg omg omg it worked!!!!!!!!!! :D

Thank you for being so patient with me! :)

btw - how do you make it full screen?

Like I said before ALT+Enter (it switches full screen on/off).

Ok, this game totally rules.
It is a huuuge improvement from the last game, becouse now everything gets explained. In the first one, you kind of had to just try and hope.
Huge thumbs up :ok:

I can do the first operation fine, but when I try the any of the other two operations I can't drill the burr holes. The drill never stops. (I AM letting go of the mouse button). If I move the drill it skids....If I don't it drills the brain

activate the drill with the enter key, *not* the mouse button.

Ok...I don't get it. I'm following the info on the wiki. I'm still not able to get these stupid bone hole sutures to work.

When I try to drill a hole it just tells me I missed the bone flap.

What am I doing wrong? I can get to the part where I pull off the bone flap easily enough. However once I get it removed I have all kinds of bleeders that I can't stop, no matter what I try.

I can stop a few of them with the bone wax, but the ones on the dura mater won't stop. The electrocauterizer doesn't seem to do anything. I can't even tell which end of the thing I'm supposed to use. It has two prongs on the left side, and I guess I'm supposed to center it over the bleeder, but that never does anything.

The only way I can stop the bleeding is to cheat and put the bone flap back in, close the skin flap and then reopen it. That seems like it tricks the computer into forgetting about the bleeders.

AFter that I smooth out the rough edges of the bone, drill away the sphenoid ridge and all is well up to this point.

I put the needle drill bit on, slide the metal ribbon under the edge of the bone and try to do what is shown on the wiki.

I can't for the life of me get it to let me drill a hole that is actually all the way on the bone. It just says I've missed the bone flap...but that can't be right because the bone flap is on the tray!

The only side I can get is the upper left side, as it has a fairly exposed piece of bone on the edge. The other 3 sides don't show that "white part" though.

I can drill holes close to the edge, but as soon as I remove the ribbon, 90% of the hole goes away and I'm left with a little black speck on the edge of the bone. I can't get sutures through them. I can sometimes get a suture into the one on the upper left, but nowhere else. Not even in the middle of the dura mater.

Can anyone advise me a little here?

The original game poster of this game in magazines across the UK had a cartoon of a typical english Yorkshireman performing an Autopsy on a sheep, very apt. Sold very well in england due to this.
Game runs smoother without sound pause in parts using realmode dos 7.1

I answered my own question. There is a bug in the version of this game as posted on this site.

It has to do with the sound card of all things. I followed this link which another submitter already has posted:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?...38e313c3d3bc875

And I followed its instructions. It requires you to locate an uncracked version of this game. They mention where you can find it, but do not specifically link to it, nor will I.

You need to use the following command to mount the folder with the game installer as a floppy disk within dosbox.

mount a <path to directory> -t floppy

mount c c:\dosbox

Note: instead of c:\dosbox you can use whatever directory you want.

Then you run the install.exe from the A: drive, and install the game using the PC Speaker rather than soundblaster audio. You also have to use the EMS/XMS option for graphics. The problem with the cracked version of this game is that it is set up for soundblaster audio, and DOSbox doesn't do well with that apparently.

You do still need the original LD2.exe from this site, however, as it has cracked the copy protection. Just replace that one file after installing the game and you'll be all set. Mine is working perfectly now.

I can drill suture holes just fine...although I havne't successfully completed the operation yet...I forgot to induce hypotension before I manhandled the brain...doh. Oh well, it works now, and the audio is MUCH better.

Rant:
Dang, am I the only one annoyed with the glaringly terrible mechanic? The whole point of the "diagnostic" part of the game is to get better at recognizing illness. So why does the game NOT reward you for increased skill by letter you skip the boring parts of the diagnostic? If I think he's a cocaine addict, I I'm going to want to spend my time poking his foot with a needle, I want to treat him and move on! Sure, by jumping to the treatment I might miss something critical and misdiagnose him. . . I WANT the option of failing!

Arrgh, just got sent back to class because I didnt test her knee reflexes. Thats it! I tested her arm reflexes and everything else! GEERR!

Bad designer! Bad!

Here's what I did, step by step, exactly, for utter newbies.

Step one- Download the abandonia version. Dont bother with putting it into your DOSBox directory, all you need from the download is a single file; the LD2.exe

Step two- Get the "other" version of the game, in addition to abandonia's. The "other" version is a zip file inside an RAR file. Extract the files inside the ZIP into a non-compressed folder.

Three- Go into dosbox. Type "mount a <the address you extracted the "other" file to; for example c:\hotu\LD2>

Four- In dosbox, navigate to the folder you extracted the "other" files to. Run "install.exe" by typing "install" into the dosbox prompt and hitting enter. It'll ask you some questions. Yes, you have VGA. PC Sounds, please. Load the sounds into XMS/EM. Install to hard disk. Install from the A drive. I dont think it matters what size of disk you say. It should ask you to insert disk 1, disk 2, etc. Just hit any key to continue. WHen youre done, it should be installed into "c:\LD2". . . actually it will be whatever folder you told dosbox to mount as your C drive. For me, I told dosbox to mount my (actual) c:\DOS\CDRIVE folder as my C drive, so the "other" version of the game got installed into my (actual) c:\DOS\CDRIVE\LD2 folder. Make sense?

Now, in windows, go back to the first file you downloaded, from abandonia. Take the file install.exe and copy it into the (actual) folder that the "other" game installed to. For me, I took the install.exe from the abandonia version and copied it into c:\dos\cdrive\LD2. REPLACE the existing file with the new one you're copying over.

Now, to run the game. Get into dosbox. In your default directory should be a folder "LD2". Open it, and type LD2 to run the game.



... I think. :ok:

Thanks to Alkarion at http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopi...8e313c3d3bc875 and defeodation here at abandonia for the instructions.

I've already had all the other problems everyone else had and I was able to fix them all per your instructions. Now I have a new problem.
Whenever I am performing a tumor/aneurysm operation, when I get to the part where I have to cut the dura mater with the scalp (after I've drilled the holes e did the sutures) the game simply freezes and I can't do anything. What now?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Paula @ Jun 18 2006, 06:35 PM) [snapback]237659[/snapback]</div>I was encountering the same problem. It still happens to me occasionally, but I've found that I can avoid it by going into the game options (from your office in the hospital, on the desk, on one of the clipboards) and disabling the audio. I also mute the audio on my computer, but I don't know if that's necessary.

It was freezing on me almost every time exactly as I cut most of the way through the dura mater.

Also, I still have the same problem as many others on this forum about putting the bone flap back on after drilling suture holes in it. The easy work around has already been mentioned, but all you have to do is not put the bone flap back in until you are closing. As long as you have put suture holes and suture strings into the skull, you can drill the holes in the flap when you put it back in to close up.


I just finished my first brain tumor surgery a minute ago. Can you believe the only thing that kept me out of the honor roll was a messy application of iodine?!?!

Tumor surgery isn't too hard. I used the wiki as a general guide, but the in game instructions are pretty good. First time through I accidentally went to +24, -12 instead of +24, +12 on the microscope. They kicked me out after I sucked half the patients brain out trying to find that damn tumor.


Here's a neat trick that I haven't seen mentioned here, but maybe I just missed it. If you fail a surgery, don't go to class, just close DosBox and start the game over. It will tell you to go to school once you're back in, and after you click through the slides it will tell you that you're wanted in the OR. Go into the OR and you get to repeat your last surgery.

Ok...I took a little hiatus from this game cause it was driving me nuts, but I couldn't stay away...I had to finish every operation successfully. And I have...but the game is still trying to thwart me.

I finished the tumor op no problem...took a few tries and I accidentally sucked the guys brains out of the wrong spot once...but I got it and I am in the hall of fame. Hematoma operation is a snap...no problem at all.

I can get the aneurysm, clamp it off, close up the skull same as the tumor operation...but when I get done I get this message: "Shouldn't this operation have taken longer?"

Then I get booted out, and the chief tells me that if I hadn't been so worried about what I was making for dinner that night, or something, that I would have remembered to clamp off the aneurysm. But I did that! The clamp went on! I didn't get any message saying that I had done it successfully...but I did it! The clamp goes on and you can't take it off again. So I just removed the retractors and closed. Every time I finish the operation this is what happens!

So I've beaten this game...yet I haven't...because it's still giving me crap about not finishing the aneurysm. I want the satisfaction of having my name on that hall of fame plaque.

Has this happened to anyone else?

this happened to me during surgery also, i turned off the sound and music and it worked perfectly :)

I really enjoy this game but now it just keeps locking up at the same time. I'm doing the tumor op, and when I begin cutting the dura, I loose all mouse control. Im using dos box, and i can actually get it to work a little bit byusing the arrows on the keyboard to control the cursor, but your really need mouse control on this game. Any advice?

This topic is probably long dead, but I followed the special installation instructions to fix the garbled sound... now I get a stack overflow error! What's the solution to this?

You are using DosBox, I presume?

Indeed I am. In fact, I'm using d-fend to help me along... any special settings I should use?

Try running it without D-Fend. From what I've heard, D-Fend can sometimes introduce crashes and errors which do not occur when running "pure" DosBox.

Nope, didn't work. It simply showed the opening disclamer, then the screen that appears after you quit the game, then Dosbox closed itself.

What exactly did you do? Step-by-step, please.

I installed the game by downloading the "other" file that was mentioned earlier, then mounting that folder as a floppy disk on Dosbox using the -t floppy command.

I installed with all the settings mentioned earlier, most importantly using Realsound and EMS/XMS memory for graphics.

Here's where I ran into my first problem: The folder that the game installed to was named LD2. This prevented me from moving the exe file from Abandonia into the folder, because it said it was already in use. And because the above folder was write-protected, I was unable to rename it.

So I reinstalled the game using the "other" files into a folder named LD2G. This allowed me to copy Abandonia's exe file over the installed one.

Then I set up the new profile with D-fend, and got the stack overflow error. I tried using loadfix, just to be safe, and it totally froze my entire computer.

Then I dragged the LD2 file onto dosbox, and it crashed.

I tried doing it by myself, mounting C:, going into LD2G, and running the game. It crashed Dosbox as well.

So... yeah, that's all.

I really need help. I can perform Subdural Hematoma operations fairly easily but once I try my hand at brain tumour or aneurysm operations I fail.

I open up the scalp and then I hook up the irrigation but as soon as I pick up the drill and try to drill on the so called "extreme right" it says that i skidded the drill, but i didn't actually. Am i drilling the wrong place? Can someone post a screenshot so i can know where to drill?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeaneai @ Nov 12 2006, 03:31 AM) [snapback]266476[/snapback]</div>I'm getting a similar problem, but it's that the drill doesn't stop drilling when I release the mouse button and I drill through the brain. Are there any alternative mouse drivers which may solve this?

P.s. I'm using DosBox.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dalillama @ Dec 5 2006, 11:29 PM) [snapback]270440[/snapback]</div>I'm getting a similar problem, but it's that the drill doesn't stop drilling when I release the mouse button and I drill through the brain. Are there any alternative mouse drivers which may solve this?

P.s. I'm using DosBox.
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I was having this exact same problem and read back several pages through the forum for the answer. You can activate the drill by pressing and holding the enter key. If you use the mouse and it doesn't stop, try tapping enter also. Sometimes I forget. Hope this helps.

How make operation? I can't :( buuu I use scalp and....i don'n know :(

please send to me e-mail how make operation? [BEEEP]@op.pl

Zachowuj si?. Rodakom obciach robisz. :butcher:

Jakby? przeczyta? zasady forum - nie mo?esz pisa? swojego adresu mailowego.

when i play ld2 on windows part of the screen on the right is always cut off. how do you solve this problem?

By playing it in DosBox.

Is there anywhere you can download the original game manual?
you have it for the first life and death game but not for this one..

i had this problem too....try pressing escape a few times....it worked for me...

ok this thread is probably dead but:
I have a problem when operating a brain tumor or aneurysm.. when I get to the part where I need to cut the dura meter, I cut it and immediately after that I get funny lines on the screen and the game freezes..

I'm running this game through Dosbox, version .70 on Windows XP.
When I did the subdural hematoma, the operation went smoothly. Sound is a bit garbled, but I can deal with that. However, I have a far bigger problem. In both the tumor and aneurism operations, when I try to drill the first of the four burr holes, the drill doesn't stop! I have a choice: skid the drill, or turn brain into oatmeal, neither of which are good choices. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance!

Sorry for the double post, but I can't edit since I'm unregistered.
I followed the directions as to making the drill stop, and it worked. However, I have a new problem. When I take the skull piece off, it starts bleeding. The problem is, I can't stop the bleeding. I've tried bone wax, as well as the electrocauterizer, holding it there for more than 10 seconds and still having it not stop the cut. Thanks in advance!

Sorry, found the answer I was looking for. I also found the answer to a couple more of the problems. Thanks a lot!

(I operated for an aneurism, and when I opened the dura mater, it turned out to be a stroke. Whoops! :banned:)

Sorry for triple post, but it appears that this topic is dead. :unsure:

I have a problem when operating for an aneurism. When I open up the brain with the retractors, and cut the first blood vessel, the electrocauterizer has absolutely no effect. The result is a messy fate for my poor patient. :wallbash:

Any ideas on how to correct this nasty bug?

I am running Dosbox Version .70. I play with the sound OFF.

This topic isn't dead. Just have some patience until another person playing this game comes around.

I need some help, :sos:
I have been playing for a couple of days now and always encounter the same problem. :angry:
I am trying to do the Brain Tumor op, everything is fine up to the part where I have to incise the dura, as soon as i start to cut I get lots of bleeders and I can't stop them eventually the patient dies through massive blood loss. Am I doing it wrong or is this a game problem. :angry: I am following the walkthrough on wikia.com

Running game under DosBox 0.70 with full sound no other problems I have even completed the Subdural hematoma operation a number of times.

To start again I quit DosBox and restart at the operating Theatre but the same happens.

Great game if this op is successful, any help appreciated. :sos: :wallbash:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tekno_Fobe @ May 11 2007, 12:14 AM) [snapback]289878[/snapback]</div>I finally managed to complete the tumor op and got into the Hall of Fame. :brain:
When incising the dura using the mouse button it causes fatal loss of blood, holding the Enter key and using the mouse to move the scalpel still cuts the dura but not as many bleeders, they are easily dealt with using the cauterisor. :ok:

Next patient is an aneurism so I will try that tomorrow as its getting late now, will post how I get on.... :unsure:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dreg'atar @ May 9 2005, 07:17 PM) [snapback]105695[/snapback]</div>Please put a link to the website hopefully its not illegal.I want to see to see a type of surgery sim where you do heart operations.

HOTU has the only review of it I know of. No download there, so the game may not be AW.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Apr 8 2007, 04:46 PM) [snapback]286455[/snapback]</div>I have the exact problem!
I sometimes get funny lines on my monitor but sometimes the game only freezes. And this only happens when I'm incising the dura. I hope you guys can help me.
Thanks in advance,

Sparky

try disabling the sound in setup and after you do it, enable it again

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(_r.u.s.s. @ Jul 15 2007, 01:36 AM) [snapback]299455[/snapback]</div>first of all: thanks for the reply :ok:

I have tried that before but it didn't help.. :(
any other suggestions? :)

and try increasing cycles, that sometimes causes the game to freeze too. or use core=dynamic in dosbox.cfg

tried increasing cycles to 20k and modifying the dosbox.conf file... still no change :(
thanks for the reply though

no more ideas? :)

Use Core=normal, disable MPU-401 emulation, change sound emulation to Sound Blaster Pro 2 and make sure the game's sound setup has the correct IRQ, DMA and Adress values (7, 1, 220).

Life and death is here!?
Had the original on the amiga way back when :D
I was a pretty sucky surgeon as a 10 year old, but at least I had the manners to feel bad about the mountain of corpses and crushed relatives I left in my wake.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Aug 3 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]302569[/snapback]</div>ok I've done the other things you wanted me to do, but I'm stuck at this one.. how do I change the sound settings for the game? There is no "Setup.exe" or something like that :)

If there is no setup which requires them, ignore that bit.

Does the crash still occur?

unfortunately.. yeah.. and still at the time while I'm cutting the dura mater :/

Which version of DOSBox are you using?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Aug 7 2007, 01:07 PM) [snapback]303368[/snapback]</div>0.70

Try 0.65.

I'm getting the crazy colors everywhere and sometimes crashing after suturing the bone flap during a tumor or aneurysm operation. I've tried running it in both DosBox 7.0 and 6.5. Of the people who are not running into this problem, are any of you using DosBox or are you guys running it in Windows or Pure Dos? I can't for the life of me figure out a solution.

Did you try redownloading the game? Perhaps the copy you're playing got corrupted during download.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Aug 16 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]304803[/snapback]</div>Well, I've tried two different versions, sort of. I got the one from abandonia, and it gave me that problem and some sound problems too. To fix the sound problems, I downloaded a version from HOTU which I had to install, and then replaced the .exe file with the one from abandonia which fixed my sound problems. I don't think its a problem of the game being corrupted, since several people are having this problem, unless somehow the .exe itself is corrupted but there are some people who are not having this problem, it seems. I'm not sure.

Uhm.. This is such a stupid question. Is this game gorry in any way? Like, a lot, a little, or just plain gross? Because I don't have a very strong stomach and I want to play this game (because I like killing people =D ).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nikki @ Aug 19 2007, 08:32 AM) [snapback]305454[/snapback]</div>It isn't about killing them.....

And about your stomach, maybe you should play the game, you could learn what's wrong with that stomach of yours ...
http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/life-dea...ain/screenshots

Hey, everytime i'm in the middle of a surgery that i don't know how to do, i pause the game and minimize the window so i can look at a guide on the web. when i go back into the game, its going real speedy and there is no way to stop it. the seconds whiz by, and as you can imagine, that creates a problem. does anyone know how to fix this?
thanks

you could use dosbox, then you can even run your game in a window

Help
 

This is a pretty good game, only problem is, is that I can't make any operations--it just skips the whole part and takes me to the chief or boss--the one good thing about it is that he says I did a great job heh
But I want to actually operate, anyone know what problem this might be the result of? I'm using DOSBox-0.72

The reason you can't make any operations is because you don't have enough patience. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Haha, ok...you replied a long time ago, but if you're referring to me not having enough patience to figure this out, hey, be easy I'm no expert :P
It really doesn't even let me see the operating table. It just speeds up
I will try again on this on a new computer I got :)

it's a pun... patience = patients =D

also, i'm getting the fuzzy lines error now in dosbox when i replace the skull flap for suture holes. the HOTU download is gone :( any other advice where i can get an installable version would be appreciated.

cheers,
a bloody surgeon

mostly when weird errors occur in dosbox, try changing your core to full or normal

lol, I had a feeling that's what you meant, but wasn't sure. Very clever, it was both actually. I did get frustrated and quit months ago. But hey, good news! I got it to work! YAY Only problem is I kill my patients---whoopsie! I guess it takes patience :thumbs:

Help? :S
 

I like this game, it's really cool, but I have a problem at the aneurysm operation. When i try to drill the skull (i open up, irrigate and everything) the drill just WON'T STOP so i drill into the guy's brain :notrust:
WTF? can anyone help me? pretty please with a watermelon on top? :sos:

Maybe it's simulating real life? Anyway, don't pay with watermelons when talking about drilling a brain to sludge.

This video won't help you.

EDIT: Nevermind, i got it. I found this site where the guy had the same problem. He just turned off the sounds and it worked! It worked for me, too.

Here's the LINK to that site.

This is a very good game! I have 3 sucess surgerys of 7! I think its a good stat from a newbie:D

Yeah, the mouse is screwed up for this game. So, instead of using the mouse, press "Enter" instead. That should help.

I've converted the surgery guide into PDF format and the new one also covers all the surgeries that you'll need to perform.

It works well as a substitute manual as it not only has a step-by-step guide to each surgery but the locations and descriptions of all the tools, liquids, procedures, etc... that you need to be familiar with.

There's also a section on what to do if things go wrong. That's very handy.

I think it needs to be noted in the game review that the game-time when in surgery is way too fast to be able to successfully complete any of them unless you lower the cycles. You'll be five minutes into an operation before 30 seconds is up otherwise and as soon as you notice a bad situation is coming on, your patient's dead...
They need to be really low (system dependant) so that the game-time is real-time - as it should be.
Running the game like this, however, means that the rest of it (like diagnosis) is far too slow. So, you need to change it accordingly.

This was the major reason why I wasn't getting anywhere...

Here's the link to the surgery guide pdf until it goes up on site:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/trg...uide.pdf?hl=en

Arrrgh!! the Drill hates me!!!
 

Hey!

I love both life and death games! took me nearly 50 odd patients just to pass the 1st operation!.. but now i cant do a brain or anuresym op because everytime i go to drill a burr hole the drill wont stop drilling.. I click and it doesnt stop.. its killed loads of poor patients and I am yet to finish one burr hole, without drilling the brain. It always tells me that i have drilled into the brain or i skidded my drill and then I get told off!!

driving me crazy!! I am determined to get this operation done! I have tried doing it with the sound on and off.

Helpppp please!!???:(

Just noticed this post...will try that on the next one!!! :)

I'm having the exact same problem. If someone knows how to fix this, please post!

A lot of these problems (the operation not working, the drill not stopping) are fixed by setting Dosbox's cycles lower, until the in-game time is the same as real-time (1 second = 1 second and not 1 irl = 10 ingame).

If you don't do this - you can't do everything fast enough and so can't complete the trickier operations.
As soon as you notice an emergency problem, if it's not fixed, you lose. That can be really annoying if you have a load of bleeders to look after or have to irrigate constantly.
The drill and other things, like the scalpel (big problem :D) get stuck at too high cycles, too. That's even more annoying - especially when doing something intricate.

I hate to plug this again, but have you followed all the steps in this guide?
http://trgt.googlegroups.com/web/LAD...uide.pdf?hl=en
idk if it's ever going on site, but I need to add the cycles thing to the pdf guide.
I was pretty much set to beat my record of 10:39 for an aneyrism. I got to the bit (right at the end of the hard bit) where you have to take off the retractors and the brain closes back up and you do - what should be the NURSE'S job, I may add - the closing the scalp back up bit...

...AND THE FREAKING MOUSE STUCK AND I SCALPELED THE GUY'S BRAIN!!!
:flame:

They ate pizza off his body.

I went and chatted with the psychologist computer about my failure as a brain surgeon being due to faulty equipment.
He kept asking me the same annoying questions, though.

Could've made less than 10 minutes, easy...

lol
is there nothing at that page? or is that only for me?
Maybe I should make it later... :mhh:
Anyone want to help? Or, we could just put a link on the wiki to AB's LaD2 game page.

This: http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Life_an...in/walkthrough ?

Subdural Haematoma - 2:59 min - :rocks:

Personally, I'm running this in Windows XP, thus I don't know about Vista which I presume is why you are using Dosbox in the first place. Here is my contribution as I'm having the same issues as you. The trick is to do the suturing for the bone flap after you're done with the operation. Put the bone flap back, then suture. It's not too late and the operation will still be considered a success.

What a great punk band name :p

I've played hours since discovering this game and I have been searching lots of sites where the game is discussed and finally I have a few hints and one big question. But first things first:

It is still possible to find a copy of this game with installation files in it so that you can install life and death but its a bit tricky. Have to rename the given disk in the folder... After installing you download the game from abandonia and copy the .exe into your installed version. Thats the way to fix the sound problem. Works fine for me. Now I can hear the heart-rhythm of my "victims" and react quicker.

Then I tried different versions of dosbox to run the game and I have to say that 0.73 is not the best choice. On 0.65 it runs quite fine while on 0.73 I always had problems with my mouse

But I'll have to check out older versions of dosbox because there seems to be a major problem: whenever I try to cut the Dura Mater my game crashed - on dosbox 0.73. Every time I got to the final line for the diamond shape dosbox closed.
In 0.65 dosbox seems to be more stable, so no more crashes - but the mouse begins to behave crazy when I try to put the final cut. I can't control it any longer... And it's impossible to operate on with the keyboard because you have hardly control with the arrow keys...

Any suggestions to that matter?
Maybe an older dosbox version may help...

I've never had problems on PC or Mac, on all versions of Dosbox and Boxer I have ever used, except for tweaking teh cycles.
Maybe run it in windowed mode instead, but decrease Window's display resolution so it's still big enough to play.

Wait - sometimes the mouse sticks and you drill into brain or skid it across the bone (and they let them die and HUMILIATE their corpses, just because you put a tiny ding - that they'd never even know was there if you didn't tell them - in their cranium?! Their head's gonna be sore anyway!).
That could be because of the dramatically reduced cycles, tho.

Use WinXP and latest Dosbox.
Vista sucks and Win7 scares me.

Under XP I can't get it working. The screen is immediatly freezing.

It's not the problem with the non-stopping drilling in head, it's a problem which occurs when cutting the dura mater is nearly finished. on dosbox 0.73 the games simply crushes, on 0.65 the mouse isn't controllable any more and on 0.63 (which I just tried out) the screen freezes.

Doesn't matter if sound is enabled or not - every time the same result. Seems as if I may not see what's inside dura mater...

www.dosbox.com ;)

Great hint arete

Last question: under how many cycles do you run dosbox?
I lowered them down to 1000 but still seems runnig too fast

try selecting full core, then it'll get even slower

I'd try in order 700, 500 and 300 cycles.

Jesus... too fast at 1000 and no mind to lower it further? Have you tried underclocking your computer? It will make it quieter and consume less power too, so it's a win-win for you and the environment.

On a Macbook, at 200 cycles, the surgery is just below real time. On my PC laptop, it's between 200-300. On my big PC, it's 266.
If the mouse is messing up, turn off the trackpad or switch to a ps/2 one.

I just downloaded the guide thing from here, as I lost my copy, and I see that you can't see:
Written by Tom "Tomcattowo"
Compiled by Teh_Saccade.

Just by saccade. I think that must be me making the text box too tall and not paying attention, as the font's stretched. Can I make a new first page and change it?

[ed]
Well, if you want me to do this - it'll be after I've done the rest of the stuff I've planned.
Sorry Tom, but if you're reading this, i didn't take yr credit on purpose.

Could some upload the hybrid of this version along with the one from the underdogs so I can hear speech in the game?

I'd really appreciate the effort if someone could do this for me. :)

Cheers.

This is happening to me, too, and apparently my friend has always had this problem as well. Any ideas?


I'm submitting this. It's actually just a pre-installed HOTU version, not a hybrid version, but it works fine on DosBox 0.74. As with all versions, you do still have to use the ENTER key to operate drills when sound is enabled, or they will not stop drilling.

I just did an aneurysm operation without sound. I didn't think it'd affect the outcome, but I figured it was worth a try anyhow. In any case, I still got the message saying I didn't fix the aneurysm.

By the way, a new version was uploaded that does have proper audio. It's PC Speaker, but trust me, it's very high-quality audio with speech and everything... only the theme music sounds like bleeps and bloops.

I need help, I am using DOSBOX and I am trying to get my Logitech extreme 3d Pro USB joystick to work, it works fine untill the operation starts, once that happens my cursor stops moving when I move the joystick.

Well, I don't know the answer to your question, but why are you trying to play it with a joystick? :huh:

Mouse just isnt fun enough :lol:

My game freezes when cutting into the Dura, any help?

I can't say I've had that particular problem. Are you playing using DosBox? Have you tried playing without sound? If it does work without sound, have you tried both the PC Speaker and SoundBlaster configurations? (Definitely take the PC Speaker one if you can, unless somehow you manage to get good sound out of the SoundBlaster version...)

I am playing with sound but I am using it with DOSBOX (newest version, 0.74)

It crashes when I am almost done cutting the dura mater, like about 3.7/4 of the way and the entire game locks up.

On a side note, I just noticed if you keep the spinal tap on too long the patient dies.

Well turning sound off fixed it, any way so I can hear sound yet still operate?

Or can leaving sound on and music off also fix it? (by the way, I havnt heard ANY music while playing)

Have you tried both the PC Speaker and SoundBlaster configurations? (Though the SoundBlaster sound really sucks on DosBox for some reason...)

The game has no music except on the title screen, as far as I can tell. I don't know why they made it an option... perhaps they intended to put more music in the game, but never did before shipping it. So I really doubt turning music off and leaving sound on will fix it...

well turning sound off fixed it, any way to make it I can hear sounds yet still play (ekg beeping is VITAL) Also can just turning music off fix it? (if there even IS music in the game)


Lastly, how do I get it to do soundblaster?

and can it be freezing cause of just the version of abandonia? What version of life and death 2 are you using?

I already said turning music off is very unlikely to fix it...


Depending on when you downloaded it from Abandonia, it may already be the SoundBlaster version. They didn't put up the PC Speaker one until maybe a week ago. If you hear "Welcome to Toolworks General" when you sign in, you have the PC Speaker version; if it's all muffled and unintelligible, it's the SoundBlaster version. If you do have the PC Speaker version, you can try the SoundBlaster version by downloading the "alternate sound settings" from the LD2 page here on Abandonia and overwriting the one you have now.


My copy is one I got from Home of the Underdogs a long time ago. I also tried the one from Abandonia from a couple weeks ago, before they put up the PC Speaker version, and if I recall, I didn't have any trouble cutting the dura.

When I sign in I hear "welcome to todolsds workass geneasral" *misspelled intentional to "emulate" how it sounds* (quite distorted.) it kinda sounds like Microsoft Sam, Maybe hes the new surgeon, but honestly, does your sound kinda like microsoft sam? as I hear patients saying alice just fine, and the drill and EKG sounds normal and not distorted.

Eh, maybe vaguely like Microsoft Sam. You probably do have the PC Speaker version, 'cause what I heard with the SoundBlaster version didn't sound anything like "Welcome to Toolworks General" (I didn't even know that's what it was saying until I got it working with PC Speaker).

Can you backup the version of ld2 you are using and then download the PC speaker abandonia version and see if you can cut the dura with sound on?

I noticed it ONLY freezes when the patient has a tumor, if he just has a headache or is an addict it wont freeze, so make sure sound is on and try a tumor op on the abandonia pc speaker version, if it DOES freeze for you can you upload the version you are using?


Admins: If my last statement about asking for an upload is AGENIST the rules feel free to tell me.

Note the status of the game: http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/494
If it was still sold, protected or supported, I'd have stomped on your post like a seriously pissed-off Hulk.
But it's not, so we have no problem with users exchanging alternate versions of the game.

ok, Furrykef, can you upload the version u r using?

I guess I could. I checked the rules carefully and there seems to be no restriction against uploading it right here, so... here it is.

I doubt it'll make a difference, but I guess it's worth a try. I've never had this version give me credit for an aneurysm operation, though (dunno if that has to do with the game version or what).

so guest, does this version make any difference? i might replace the archive then

I wouldn't replace the archive too readily. I've yet to try the one that's up now to see if it'll give me credit for an aneurysm operation.

any updates? did you try cutting it yet?

you will make my bookmarks folder have one bookmark less by replying=P

Sorry, I haven't yet. I'm rather busy right now :/

Quick question
 

In this game, whenever I perform a tumour or aneurysm op, it won't stop drilling!! With the hematoma op, it's fine; I un-click and it stops drilling once there's a hole. But with the others, it either keeps drilling until I hit the brain, or, if I try to move the mouse away, the drill skids and I get that consultant guy on my back for it.

Is this a problem with my laptop/game version or am I seriously doing something wrong?

It's just a bug in DosBox. It's been there for ages, unfortunately.

You can choose one of two solutions for this:
1. Turn off sound effects. (But what fun is that?)
2. Use ENTER on the keyboard to drill instead.

I recommend doing #2, not just because sound is nice to have, but because, if you take your hand off the mouse to press ENTER, it's impossible for your hand to slip (a very bad thing when operating a drill!). You can use the ENTER key on the numeric keypad, too, which is right next to the mouse if you're right-handed.

I have had the same problem too. i highly recommend drilling the suture holes in the skull AFTER you remove the tumor or treat the aneurysm. ONLY PUT THE SKULL FLAP DOWN ONCE IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT PROBLEM AGAIN.

I'm at the last line
 

I'm at step 8. I typed "mount c c:\" and pressed enter, then I typed "c:" and pressed enter, then I typed CD "lnd2" and pressed enter. Everything was proceding until I reached the last part. When I typed "ld2" and pressed enter, it just says "illegal command ld2" on the dosbox. The game doesn't start. Why is this happening??

Hi all! I've been playing this game for a while and love it. One thing I don't know is, what do the coloured buttons around the EKG screen do? When I press it, the colours change, but I have no idea what that does.

PLZ HELP
 

please help me when im in the part when you select the room the game freezes plz help

Is there an ending?
 

Is there an ending to this game? I've just entered the Hall of Fame in all 3 operations, but the game seems to continue as if nothing special have happened.

Must I change difficulty? I'm playing the default "Novice", LD2 is hard enough as it is ;). Or perhaps try Nightmare Mode?

So, is there any "formal" ending, with credits and etc? How?