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SpiDoL 11-08-2011 06:59 AM

Community Outcast
 
Let's say that there's this game you really like, and you're a fan of it. However, you have to exclude yourself from the main community or fanbase for the game and become an outcast, because you feel the community is corrupt or something bad like that.

Have you ever had to do that? Because I had to. And with one of my absolute favorite games, Mortal Kombat:

I live in America, the land of the free. As such, I have the right to like a game series my own way and own style. Which is what I need to do with Mortal Kombat, because there's a lot in the new 2011 game's storyline that I don't agree with. I had to become an outcast from this series's fanbase for a very good reason: They relish communism.

No joke. They always force you to like the series their way. And they deny you the right to choose for yourself. Two examples:

1. They force you to hate Midway Arcade Treasures (which has arcade emulations of Mortal Kombat 1, 2, and 3 on it) because they think it's not "arcade-perfect", and deem the only way you're allowed to play the games is through MAME (which I hate using for several reasons). Rubbish. Midway Arcade has always been a good way for me to play the arcade versions of those games at home, on my computer (better than MAME IMO), and on the go thanks to my PSP.

2. Basically, the only games you're allowed to love and cherish under their evil dictatorship is Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and Mortal Kombat 2011, with the reason being that they're the only two that are used for high-level tournament play. More rubbish. Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 may not be tournament fighters, but they're the two games that got everyone into the series in the first place. The PS2 trilogy of Deadly Alliance, Deception, and Armageddon was also worth playing despite the "brokenness".

I had to endure totalitarian rule from this community for a long time. I finally got fed up with it and fought back standing up for what I believe in. Unfortunately it didn't get me very far, as they ridiculed and banned me for not embracing their hateful tyranny.

I still love Mortal Kombat, but now, like I said, I love it my own way. With Mortal Kombat II my favorite game in the series, and owning several copies of Midway Arcade Treasures across several platforms. I may be an outcast, but it's better to be free than to have no rights.

Lulu_Jane 11-08-2011 07:32 AM

I don't think communism means what you think it means.


Anyway, if you like something who cares what other people think :)

TotalAnarchy 11-08-2011 08:34 AM

I've witnessed several communities like that. At the beginning they were ok, but as they started growing, a sort of majority formed itself, and this majority always tried to impose their own view on things. For example, I was part of a local community, and after 2-3 years of existence they banned all discussions related to some free MMOs like Mu and Lineage 2 or online FPSs like Counter-Strike, because they "cause" addiction etc. While I agree that game addiction is a bad thing, I'm against people imposing their will on others just because they think they're right. That was around the time when I found it appropriate to leave the respective community.

SpiDoL 11-08-2011 10:39 AM

My point exactly.

My local buddy likes to call these communities and people "Opinion Nazis", and I think that's the perfect term for them.

RRS 11-08-2011 02:37 PM

Two words: Star Wars. I reject the new trilogy and nearly everything that was released in the recent years. This can also put you in the minority...

Lulu_Jane 11-08-2011 02:44 PM

The minority being the people who are correct.

SpiDoL 11-08-2011 03:20 PM

This shouldn't be considered off-topic, but the following is my own interpretation of the Mortal Kombat storyline, which the community scolded me for creating which in turn led to my revolt against them:

Quote:

Before I state my take on the story, I want to explain why I'm doing it:

-Because I'm more of a retro gamer and mostly like classic games better than new games.
-Because this way I don't end up hating Mortal Kombat 2011 and fearing the direction the series is going.

There are three versions of the Mortal Kombat storyline:
1. The canonical story of Mortal Kombat 1, 2, 3 + Ultimate + Trilogy, and 4 + Gold. The story progresses as it originally did, and when Liu Kang defeats Shinnok at the end of MK4, Earthrealm is saved forever, and everyone lives happily ever after. The End.

2. The "What-If?" story of Deadly Alliance, Deception, and Armageddon. In my view of the canonical story, Quan Chi is captured and killed by Scorpion at the end of MK4, thus Scorpion truly avenges his family and clan. But since I consider MKDA a "What-If?" story, Quan Chi is allowed to form the Deadly Alliance with Shang Tsung in this new timeline, thus starting the chain of events that lead to Armageddon and Earthrealm's impending doom. Which leads to...

3. The "Alternate Take" of the "What-If?" story, a.k.a. Mortal Kombat 2011. In my view, the Alternate Take can't really be the canonical story all over again, partly because things were already messed up BEFORE Raiden messed things up. For example: Nightwolf, Kitana and Jade, Sektor and Cyrax, Jax, Quan Chi, and Baraka were never part of the original tournament. So I base it on the "What If?" story, because that's where it fits better.

That's my take on the storyline. You're welcome to disagree with me, but just remember: I've loved Mortal Kombat ever since I was a child, and by doing this take, I'm trying to defend that love and keep it going, whether the series goes for better or for worse.
I felt in the new game's storyline that Raiden, when he altered time, did too much damage and not enough healing. This especially affects my favorite character, Sub-Zero, who was turned into a robot, killed, and turned into an evil slave thanks to the tinkering with time. I was going to switch to Scorpion as my favorite character, who I'm equally good with, but I ultimately decided not to, because part of the reason I don't like the new game's storyline is that Netherrealm Studios (formerly Midway Games) like to play favorites, and they abused that privilege tremendously with this installment. For example, Ed Boon (the creator of Mortal Kombat). His all-time favorite character is Scorpion, and he abused the privilege of having a favorite character by having Scorpion beat up and kill Sub-Zero in all the promotions and merchandising for the new game.

I still play Mortal Kombat 2011, but deep down, I'm extremely disappointed with the direction it had the story go. However, with my custom interpretation of the MK storyline, I don't have to fear what happens to Sub-Zero anymore. Like I said, IMO only the first four games are canonical, and every other game (including the 2011 game) is a spinoff. I honestly think it works well this way, and I'm sure you guys would agree.

Tracker 11-08-2011 05:51 PM

Yeah, well actually... I just don't get it why would anyone be so serious about a fictional universe. I mean, I haven't seen these kind of things on forums before (banning certain topics) but I'm sure those administrators who commit such deeds are criminally insane. And this has nothing to do with MK, it's general. I can pretty much imagine your situation, so I understand your problem SpiDol.
Well, all I can say is, that you don't really need those villains to enjoy the games, do you? It's not that it would be on-line only.

Lulu_Jane 11-08-2011 06:08 PM

Tracker has been banned*








*Just kidding!

arete 11-08-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRS (Post 432314)
Two words: Star Wars. I reject the new trilogy and nearly everything that was released in the recent years. This can also put you in the minority...

Prequel trilogy? What prequel trilogy? :sick:

Seriously, SpiDol, good for you. Look up "thought police" and trust your own instincts. No one should ever tell you what to think. So ignore everything I just said. Or don't. Or...aarghnevermind.

The Joe Man 11-08-2011 07:13 PM

There are people that actually care about fighting game storylines??!?


You're not going to like this but: MK in any iteration (even 2011) is a joke as far as tournament level play goes. Floaty as hell, terrible character designs/movesets, hitboxes that make no sense. It's basically one step above Smash Bros. but that's not saying much.

If you're into fighters, at least go with something that's not terrible, like SF4 (SSF4AE now). It's designed for the casual player (not as casual as MK) but if you like it, then try out SF3: 3rd Strike.

There are actually a ton of great fighters out there right now, it's kind of a renaissance. MK is not one of them. :max:

arete 11-08-2011 07:37 PM

Arguably, though, MK codified the genre.

RRS 11-08-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arete (Post 432336)
Prequel trilogy? What prequel trilogy?

Yeah, but I've learned from my mistakes and to this day I haven't seen Indy 4. Don't want to ruin my most cherished memories, thank you.

TheChosen 11-08-2011 10:07 PM

Pfffff, they're all at least okay. Stop crying that "Ooooh, oooh, my childhood is raped". Its annoying and I get enough of this nostalgia crying by reading Youtube comments.

SpiDoL 11-08-2011 11:44 PM

@The Joe Man:
Why are you trying to do what this topic is ranting about?

I'm a casual gamer. I'm not cut out for tournament play and never will be. That said, I enjoy the original four MK games more than any other fighting game I know (I've played a lot of them, including SSFIV: AE). Plus I can beat the original MKs (and not just on the novice tower in 3 & 4 either).

RRS 12-08-2011 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChosen (Post 432344)
Stop crying that "Ooooh, oooh, my childhood is raped".

And I'm annoyed by people repeating the "Stop crying that <<Ooooh, oooh, my childhood is raped>>" thing. It doesn't make those movies better, neither does it make me like them more. As I said in other post somewhere, the world is full of slaphappy people with no taste nor style who are satisfied with just anything, but I'm not one of them.

Eagle of Fire 12-08-2011 03:20 AM

Quote:

It's basically one step above Smash Bros. but that's not saying much.
Pfff... Smash Brothers for the GameCube is the best fighting game ever created. Period. :p

Tracker 12-08-2011 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lulu_Jane (Post 432332)
Tracker has been banned*








*Just kidding!

I know you couldn't do that, ma'am. We're just too good together, you'd never leave me! XD

Lulu_Jane 12-08-2011 07:37 AM

Hahaha :D

Actually, I really don't like Star Wars, I have literally zero childhood nostalgia for the original films. I just think the new ones are bad movies. But that's the thing, people having different opinions is fun. It would be a boring world if we all agreed on everything.

hunvagy 12-08-2011 08:58 AM

In a fit of nostalgia, and because this topic is related, I invoke the name of the dreaded underworld monstrosity, that which could only be whispered in hushed tones on the Underdogs forums:

Derek Smart!

There, I've done it.. lawsuit incoming in 3..2..1...


(in case you are from way before that, he was the one that draconically enforced that his games are perfect on his forums, and anyone trying to say otherwise was banned/mocked/at times even hit with a lawsuit)

Lulu_Jane 12-08-2011 09:16 AM

Never hear of him, but after a little googling I realized this is because he made games I wouldn't normally play.

Got to say, his wiki page makes him seem like a massive knob.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT DEREK, I WENT THERE. LET'S DANCE!
:)

Professor Oak 12-08-2011 12:01 PM

Sometimes people take discussions too seriously. By the way SpiDoL, nice theory in regards of the timelines, I always love to hear video game theories.

Eagle of Fire 12-08-2011 01:45 PM

Well, I'm going to take you to your own game because in my lifetime of discussing on forums on the net I'm starting to be very tired of people who don't take discussions seriously enough.

And this has a lot to do with the fact that I usually don't speak much IRL with people who are never serious. They really bother me and they usually never do anything good of their life either.

Professor Oak 12-08-2011 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle of Fire (Post 432386)
Well, I'm going to take you to your own game because in my lifetime of discussing on forums on the net I'm starting to be very tired of people who don't take discussions seriously enough.

And this has a lot to do with the fact that I usually don't speak much IRL with people who are never serious. They really bother me and they usually never do anything good of their life either.

The Internet is Serious Business!

SpiDoL 12-08-2011 06:40 PM

I appreciate your comment Oak. At least one person likes my interpretation.

EDIT:
On the Internet I mean. All my local friends agree with my interpretation.


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