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Surgeon 02-07-2009 03:40 PM

AVATAR is coming!
 
Only months away before the completion of the greatest film in the history of mankind (James Cameron's Avatar)! :mischief:

_r.u.s.s. 02-07-2009 03:53 PM

a link? or something? who's james cameron? i don't even feel like googling such a name=P

punch999 02-07-2009 03:59 PM

Sitting through that E3 speech he made, made me want to tear my hair out.

Loe420 02-07-2009 04:15 PM

Trailer for Avatar :idea:
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Panthro 02-07-2009 06:30 PM

I'm a little bitter about Avatar, since I'll never be able to see it in the full-3d it's supposed to be.

The chances of an IMAX or similar type of cinema opening near me is exceedingly slim.

Although I do hear he is making a game side-by-side the film, and is putting a lot of effort into that, so it's not just a crappy cash in.

Ioncannon 02-07-2009 10:40 PM

looks interesting! Is there a exact release date?

Surgeon 03-07-2009 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s. (Post 373514)
a link? or something? who's james cameron? i don't even feel like googling such a name=P

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/

James Cameron is the creator of the Terminator films, Aliens, The Abyss, Strange Days, Titanic and a couple of fantastic documentaries.

Avatar employs more than 1,000 people in its film, with a budget of more than three hundred million dollers. A selected few have inspected a demo version of the film, and it's incredibly awesome! Or so Ridley Scott, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Peter Jackson and a few of others claim.

It uses revolutionary 3D technology, unmatched ever. According to the viewers, the creatures and ambients of the alien planet are as if completely alive. They make The Lord of the Rings' Gollum, Pirates of the Carribean's Davy Jones and King Kong's...erm...King Kong, look as if made on Commodore 64 using Basic. That technology itself is being improved/redevelopped by James Cameron.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ioncannon (Post 373577)
looks interesting! Is there a exact release date?

Belgium 16 December 2009
Egypt 16 December 2009
France 16 December 2009
Australia 17 December 2009
Germany 17 December 2009
Malaysia 17 December 2009
Netherlands 17 December 2009
Portugal 17 December 2009
Russia 17 December 2009
Brazil 18 December 2009
Bulgaria 18 December 2009
Denmark 18 December 2009
Finland 18 December 2009
Iceland 18 December 2009
Italy 18 December 2009
Norway 18 December 2009
Romania 18 December 2009
Spain 18 December 2009
Sweden 18 December 2009
Turkey 18 December 2009
UK 18 December 2009
USA 18 December 2009
Ukraine 18 December 2009
Japan 19 December 2009
Argentina 1 January 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 373552)
I'm a little bitter about Avatar, since I'll never be able to see it in the full-3d it's supposed to be.

The chances of an IMAX or similar type of cinema opening near me is exceedingly slim.

Although I do hear he is making a game side-by-side the film, and is putting a lot of effort into that, so it's not just a crappy cash in.

Well are you sure? Where do you live?

The game cannot even begin to be compared to the film, but even in the gaming industry - it stands on the place of the biggest video game project ever. James Cameron is looking over it. Here's a screenshot from the game (in-game!). It uses a similar (but naturally, considerably more primitive when compared to the filM) 3D technology:

http://www.bscreview.com/wp-content/...ts/avatar2.jpg

Tomekk 03-07-2009 09:26 AM

I haven't heard of this film before, but it seems interesting :)

_r.u.s.s. 03-07-2009 01:09 PM

from what i understood in the youtube link it's fake
but then again, it's youtube comments

Surgeon 03-07-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s. (Post 373694)
from what i understood in the youtube link it's fake
but then again, it's youtube comments

Yes, it's one of the 3 fake teasers. But one of the best, indeed:

Here's the other two:




Panthro 03-07-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surgeon (Post 373587)
Well are you sure? Where do you live?

I live in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, in the North of England.

According to imax.com, my nearest imax is 83 miles away.

Thats fantastically convenient.

Also, it seems there are only four or five in the entire country (of over 61 million people).

I am suprised that my nearest one is in Bradford, but thats the only strange one, since the others are in Glasgow, Manchester and London.

Given that Newcastle as a city has a population of approximately 190,000 people, and that combined with Gateshead, North Tyneside, South Tyneside and Sunderland (all very nearby) you could increase that to close to 1million, I feel we are routinely ignored except for a place to go and get wankered on a stag night. (figures from Wikipedia).

Surgeon 03-07-2009 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 373759)
I live in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, in the North of England.

According to imax.com, my nearest imax is 83 miles away.

Thats fantastically convenient.

Also, it seems there are only four or five in the entire country (of over 61 million people).

I am suprised that my nearest one is in Bradford, but thats the only strange one, since the others are in Glasgow, Manchester and London.

Given that Newcastle as a city has a population of approximately 190,000 people, and that combined with Gateshead, North Tyneside, South Tyneside and Sunderland (all very nearby) you could increase that to close to 1million, I feel we are routinely ignored except for a place to go and get wankered on a stag night. (figures from Wikipedia).

Imax.com does not contain the list of all movie theatres with 3D projections at all.

Luchsen 03-07-2009 09:15 PM

In Germany there are five IMAX cinemas, three of them 3D, for over 80 million citizens, and - funny like hell - two of them (one 3D) are only 36 (the 3D one) and 39 miles away from me, living my rural life, not wanting to experience lame contemporary inventions like 3D cinema. :bleh:

The trailer is divine up until 0:30. But I can't find out which song it is. :(

Panthro 03-07-2009 09:35 PM

If theres an alternative to IMAX in the UK, and specifically one near me, then I'd be all ears.

But theres no way I'm gonna travel across the country just to see a "real 3D" film. I'm sure it's amazing and everything, but it's not that amazing that I'll travel just to see a film, when I can walk into the city and watch in a regular cinema (or get a DVD).

Luchsen 03-07-2009 10:12 PM

Aha, it's The Drifters (or somebody else) with Up On The Roof! :music:

Surgeon 03-07-2009 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 373779)
If theres an alternative to IMAX in the UK, and specifically one near me, then I'd be all ears.

But theres no way I'm gonna travel across the country just to see a "real 3D" film. I'm sure it's amazing and everything, but it's not that amazing that I'll travel just to see a film, when I can walk into the city and watch in a regular cinema (or get a DVD).

That's kind-of the point - yah can't. :blush:

I'm myself going to watch in the Slovenian or Greek theatres (Colosseum or Ster Cinemas).

They don't go without 3D. :mischief:

Surgeon 13-07-2009 05:05 PM

Screenshot
 
Here's another screenshot from the game:

http://brutalgamer.com/wp-content/up...6/avatar_2.jpg

Nick 14-07-2009 12:36 PM

I thought it's about Ultima. :)

Surgeon 21-08-2009 12:26 PM

Trailer
 
Here it is:


Panthro 21-08-2009 04:53 PM

I've seen the trailer, and I have to say it's very unimpressive.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avatar/


It'll be decent enough I suppose, I doubt he's made a turkey. I also expect it to be successful, but not Titanic successful.

I just don't see anything that's going to be so amazing, so revolutionary, that it will change the way we look at cinema.

Now, you may think I'm being unkind, but this is the level of hype that is being pushed for this thing. I get the feeling they've overshot, and should expect a hype backlash.

On the plus side, I think my local cinema has shelled out for some 3D equipment, so I may actually be able to see it as intended, since I've yet to see any of these new-fangled 3D films. (even though 3D films have been around since the fifties.)

Surgeon 09-10-2009 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 380344)
I've seen the trailer, and I have to say it's very unimpressive.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avatar/


It'll be decent enough I suppose, I doubt he's made a turkey. I also expect it to be successful, but not Titanic successful.

I just don't see anything that's going to be so amazing, so revolutionary, that it will change the way we look at cinema.

Now, you may think I'm being unkind, but this is the level of hype that is being pushed for this thing. I get the feeling they've overshot, and should expect a hype backlash.

On the plus side, I think my local cinema has shelled out for some 3D equipment, so I may actually be able to see it as intended, since I've yet to see any of these new-fangled 3D films. (even though 3D films have been around since the fifties.)

You definitely are unkind. :D James Cameron would feel very hurt.

Panthro 09-10-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surgeon (Post 385135)
You definitely are unkind. :D James Cameron would feel very hurt.


Hmm... You're right! I never considered the multimillionaire James Cameron's feelings. Perhaps I should write him a letter of apology?

Mind you, I have recently got myself a nifty stereoscopic 3D gaming kit, so I'm not against this new 3D stuff entirely...

Surgeon 09-10-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 385138)
Hmm... You're right! I never considered the multimillionaire James Cameron's feelings. Perhaps I should write him a letter of apology?

Mind you, I have recently got myself a nifty stereoscopic 3D gaming kit, so I'm not against this new 3D stuff entirely...

Just let me direct you at this:







I'm just trying to note that it is impossible that thousands of people across the world, including people much more wealthier than James Cameron (Steven Spielberg, Ridley Scott, George Lucas,...), have all been bribed to give the image that Avatar is not only worthy of all this hype, but vastly underestimated. I also think that it is hardly possible that all of them are wrong.

Mind you, there is not a single individual of those thousands, not even one, which shows skepticism... :max: Therefore, no, I do not understand your own.

Panthro 09-10-2009 10:47 PM

Well, I never said I was against it, nor did I say it would flop.

I suggested it wouldn't live up to the hype, and we have yet to see if it will.

Those videos just showed that people are amazed by the technology, not by the story, not by the acting, just the 3D.

It may very well be the best use of 3D in cinema to date, but that still won't impress me unless he can put together a good film to go with it.

I found the third video the best though, it had far more thought on the film as a whole, rather than just the technology.

However, there were three quotes in particular I would mention.

"I never thought the storyline for jurassic park was all that great, but seeing those dinosaurs was amazing"

This was the impact the 15min Avatar 3D trailer had on him, that the CGI/3D is as advanced past current film as those dinosaurs were at that point in the 90s. This also highlights my concern for the story of Avatar, is this just a feature-length tech demo?

"I can't piece together a lot of the narrative"

Again, concerns for the story, despite the exceedingly high praise for the technological side.

"not a movie I would see... by a regular TV [or other] method"

Is this high quality 3D so important that it would be no good for DVD and TV showings? DVD sales are how the vast majority of films make their money.

I would imagine there is a good chance he's made a "Titanic" of a film. For Cameron, that would mean another success, and a good shout for an oscar or two. For me, that would be a disappointment, as I wouldn't want to watch Titanic more than the once (I have tried to watch it again on TV, but wondered what I'd seen in it the first time).

[edit] totally forgot to mention about one of my pet hates of the CGI film industry, which apparently occurs in this film. See further at TV tropes: Ink Suit Actor.

Surgeon 10-10-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 385142)
Well, I never said I was against it, nor did I say it would flop.

I suggested it wouldn't live up to the hype, and we have yet to see if it will.

Those videos just showed that people are amazed by the technology, not by the story, not by the acting, just the 3D.

It may very well be the best use of 3D in cinema to date, but that still won't impress me unless he can put together a good film to go with it.

I found the third video the best though, it had far more thought on the film as a whole, rather than just the technology.

However, there were three quotes in particular I would mention.

"I never thought the storyline for jurassic park was all that great, but seeing those dinosaurs was amazing"

This was the impact the 15min Avatar 3D trailer had on him, that the CGI/3D is as advanced past current film as those dinosaurs were at that point in the 90s. This also highlights my concern for the story of Avatar, is this just a feature-length tech demo?

"I can't piece together a lot of the narrative"

Again, concerns for the story, despite the exceedingly high praise for the technological side.

"not a movie I would see... by a regular TV [or other] method"

Is this high quality 3D so important that it would be no good for DVD and TV showings? DVD sales are how the vast majority of films make their money.

I would imagine there is a good chance he's made a "Titanic" of a film. For Cameron, that would mean another success, and a good shout for an oscar or two. For me, that would be a disappointment, as I wouldn't want to watch Titanic more than the once (I have tried to watch it again on TV, but wondered what I'd seen in it the first time).

[edit] totally forgot to mention about one of my pet hates of the CGI film industry, which apparently occurs in this film. See further at TV tropes: Ink Suit Actor.

We can't talk about things we don't know close to anything about. :no:

The preview begins with James Cameron describing the advanced technology and the 21st century and all, and then notes he will show a total of 4 (though not fully complete) scenes from his project, which follow it. Judging that Avatar might end up as a impressive visual but poor film e.g. Chronicles of Riddick is baseless, at least for now. It would be same as claiming The Hobbit would be (a) bad film(s). :D

Also, if you're in for some serious review of the Avatar Day, check out:

http://uk.movies.ign.com/dor/objects..._26082009.html

aarne 11-10-2009 06:30 PM

I was too lazy to read what it is...
What is avatar???

Surgeon 11-10-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aarne (Post 385307)
I was too lazy to read what it is...
What is avatar???

Rofl.

A most-expected film of today and the biggest film project in the history of the filming industry. :max:

Panthro 11-10-2009 10:55 PM

Also worth noting that it's James Cameron's next big thing, which he hopes will change cinema forever.

It also shouldn't be confused with "The Last Airbender", which is a completely different film based on a cartoon or somesuch. It's actually quite amazing over these past months how many times I've seen the two mistaken for each other... particularly by people who don't want to skim through a topic.

_r.u.s.s. 11-10-2009 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surgeon (Post 385311)
Rofl.

A most-expected film of today and the biggest film project in the history of the filming industry. :max:

and why is it so much expected? does it produce smell or what?

Surgeon 28-10-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _r.u.s.s. (Post 385315)
and why is it so much expected? does it produce smell or what?

Because of the revolutionary 3D technology.

Think of it as the expectations of The Wizard of Oz.

Oh and here's the cam trailer:

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00028394.html

aarne 29-10-2009 05:31 PM

hmmm....this is like albion...

Surgeon 30-10-2009 03:16 PM

Trailer
 
Here's the trailer itself on youtube:


Tomekk 30-10-2009 04:47 PM

This looks amazing :D

Surgeon 31-10-2009 08:25 AM

Featurette
 
And here's the featurette:


Luchsen 14-11-2009 07:11 PM


aarne 16-11-2009 05:59 AM

Whahaha, Hitler always owns all other videos XD

Surgeon 21-12-2009 11:28 PM

My thoughts
 
Well, this film is far from flawless, but is absolutely stunning. This experience to the theatre was definitely worth it, one of the best to date - and will definitely be the topic for decades to come. :thumbs:

8.5 out of 10 is my rating

Titan 22-12-2009 07:29 PM

For me it was a total turnoff.
Sure, good animations and so on.. but that was expected after all the hype, and that movies made 2009 are supposed to be better then Matrix.
Quite a few time lip-sync went to have a coffee-break, and it looked like some old HongKong Kung-Fu movie.

For me it was a 5 or 6 of 10.. not more.
It was too predictive. No surprises. Another movie in the Hollywood-jungle.

Vain Vair 22-12-2009 07:44 PM

I hate to repeat what I'm sure most of you have heard but my review can be summed up with 5 words

"Dances With Wolves... In Space..."

And that's all it was really, sure it looked good but I wasn't "Blown Away" as most of the hype was saying about it. I don't see it as changing the way movies are made, however it's not a really bad movie, its just a movie that was left under a photocopier.

3 out of 5 for me.

Surgeon 22-12-2009 10:53 PM

Did you watch it in 3D?

Halindir 23-12-2009 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surgeon (Post 391630)
Did you watch it in 3D?

I did, and it was pimp

Vain Vair 01-01-2010 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surgeon (Post 391630)
Did you watch it in 3D?

I did, was alright but Coraline's 3D was much better IMHO.


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