I just received it. First I tought It was great and then I saw that here is only the lesson DIsk without the program :ranting: :ranting: :cry:

And Is VB6 a good language for your first time?

They teach it as a starting language, along with Java. There're enough basic tutorials for VB, and if you're stuck, I'd be happy to help out (more practice for me, too, then :ok: )

If I'm right, you don't have a VB but some tutorials. :) I had somewhere student version of VB (got it with the book). It does not have all features of full product.

But again, you should get VB.NET.

Yes I've beem fooled. I asked my father if there is a CD and it was there. The problem was that the Cd contained only the tutorials and not the Program :cry:

:(

I can check if I got that student version still around. Only thing you have to agree when you install it that you will not make comercial stuff with it, and that you will use it for educational purpose.

VB.net standard or academic is not that expensive around here.

No i got a friend who buied the Full version ill just ask him

That's even better. :ok:

Have a fun. :bye:

It might be nice if you post your progress here.

Yes but first the vacances must be over so i can get it or ill just buy it

As i understand it it's the easiest to learn and use among the powerful programming programs.
I learned the basics quickly, but i got bored with the complicated(advanced) stuff

And I'm still trying to figure out how to do animations, for the Tamagotchi I'm working on in there :D

Yea i also encountered this problem:
How do you make animations animate during a VB program???

I got to the point of using the gdi library and bitblt function, but I still don't see how to use that one for animations.

I'm busy writing a rpg in VB6 using the DirectX 8 libraries. I'll post a link when I have it on my site.

.EDIT.

Download it here:

http://vbstuff.siteburg.com/index.php?acti...d&file=yrpg.zip

BTW making games with the DX8 SDK is much more faster than bitblt and stuff.

Yeah, but everybody who uses it would need to have DX8 or higher :D

You can do it with DX7 too... But you'll have less effects then if you want to program 3D apps. (For DirectDraw, you can even use DX3, and that's on every windows computer...)

btw, DX9 is impossible in VB6. It's only possible in VB.NET

Well, what I want to do, is animate a Tamagotchi. Not so much 3D in there, so got no need for 3D animation.

LOL :D

I once made a tamagotchi-like program in quick basic... :P

It's not too hard to make that using the DX7 SDK, if you have a bit of VB6 knowledge.

Indeed. Only two problems I see: The animation and saving the critter to a file, so you don't have to start all over every time you close it (and which could allow more than one pet)

Well, you could put all animation graphics in one file, but you need some knowledge of binary writing for that. For my RPG, for example, I put all graphics of the player in one .CHR file. In-game, I let it unpack to a temporary directory (this all works very fast). It's like zipping/unzipping without compression...

Animation is not too hard. You let the program load all animation frames at the start in buffers, and animating the thing isn't that hard anymore after that.

I can make a little program of my RPG char walking on screen if you want using DX7. Maybe you can use it.

Doesn't hurt to learn it, so go ahead, although DirectX for a Tamagotchi...

Yey I got thnx Tiki :kosta: :kosta: :kosta: :kosta: :kosta:

I got my first lucky seven :bannana: :bannana: with some modifications :angel:

What's your lucky seven?

The normal but I just added my name and avatar :D Anyway this VB programing looks very :sick: I mean that the program is cool but the graphics :not_ok: Is there anyway to boost them up? :help:

The buttons and such? In their properties, set the mode to Graphical, then load a picture in them. To change the picture, use this:

Where is the mode oprion?

If you put the properties as Categorized, it's under Appearance, at the option: "Style"

OK...lets try it

No its not. In the Picture line I put the file then i change the style
In the code i change the name of the file and still nothing.
Only the button is white and the text is down

Wait i got it wrong. If im right this will change my button after I click. the thing I need is that my button looks in another way when he's stopped. Or change his form. I mean not to be the rectangle but the form i want or if this is posiblle that the form is a picture that i made.

Ehmm... Koen? :whistle:

Or maybe I should finish the to step by step books and then asking questions :huh:

Btw
Tiki, which book you used?

Three or four tutorials, to learn the syntax. No real good ones. One went waaaaaaaaaaay too slow, the other finally got me to the coding part after 'bout five chapters on how to make the form (which I skipped, as it's point'n click and reading whatever the tags say :D )

Yeah sorry. I finally got holiday now, and between christmas and new year's day I'll do it... :tomato:

Ok here it is! Learn from it, and tell me if it works...

BTW, there is a way to draw all this in a window, but I don't know how, because I've only been making full-screen apps with directdraw...

Also try searching for SnowEngine. It's an DX engine for VB6!

What would you suggest for anyting 2D in DX9 since dd is gone? Good, low level tutorials for managed dx seem to be hard to come by.

Oy, didn't know VB was so flexible as to allow structs. This opens whole new dimensions :D The DD specific things're still a bit unclear though. Should experiment with it, and find some tutorial on it, I guess.

Visual Basic can be very complex if you want, but is so very much slower than other languages if you use complex language... :cry:

Slower than Java? :bleh:

If you move to .net you'll find that VB.NET is as fast as C# wich is "Almost" as quick as C++

Compatibility on multiple systems comes with some cost. :crazy:

The slowness is too noticable. You know that Java-assignment I had a couple of weeks ago, right? The one that was kinda a complicated Sokoban... well, just moving was lagging from time to time.

I have vb.net already, but I didn't like the fact that the whole vb language was #*$% up... Maybe I should try programming in vb.net...

I have vb.net already, but I didn't like the fact that the whole vb language was #*$% up... Maybe I should try programming in vb.net... [/b][/quote]
Well it depends on how you feel it was #*$% up'ed. It's moved to a more object oriented design without loosing "Much" of the syntax. And, eventhough i know people will say it's not, it is cross platform compatable, if your making web apps or the like. The mono project has done a great deal in bringing .net to the linux platform, they just have'nt moved any of the Windows.Form namespaces.

I reinstalled vs.net 2003 now, and my harddisk is full! :cry: Why can't they keep it small... :crazy:

You've got to have the latest and greatest bells and whistles!! :D

Then just ring the bells from a distance... Let me download what I NEED... :cry:

Can some1 plz help me with this. Is the first program that I made from the book. The lucky seven. I just wanted to add something, so when one of the numbers is 7 and the sum of the three numbers is bigger than 15 the message shows.the problem is that once the message shows but not every time. Sometimes it shows even if the sum of 3 numbers is less than 15 :help:

The problem is the location of:By putting that at the top of the sub, you're setting those three variables to whatever the labels are before you generate the new values. That means down the bottom when you display the message box you're actually testing to see if both of the following are true:

• One of the three numbers generated this time is a 7; and
• The sum of the three numbers that were in the labels before you pressed the button is at least 15.

To fix that, you need to move those three assignment statements to below the lines where you set the labels to random numbers, ie:

As I see it, the values of First, Second and Third are set to the values of Label1.caption, Label2.caption and Label3.caption from the last time it ran. Can't be sure without seeing the function Val() though, although my bet is that that's the problem. Besides, you don't really need to add that ;) If you're already using with the caption-properties as variables (which I don't really recommend in bigger projects), you can keep using them for the counting up :ok:

A few tips on improving that code...
You can put the checking for 15 as an extra if-block within the if-block that checks for a 7.

Try to put the End If on the same indention as the If... like this:
It greatly enhances readability for both you and those who read the code after you... or for you when you reread the code in a few months or so.

@tuttle
That help a little bit, Thanks :ok:

@Kon Tiki
Yes I know that this isnt nescesery to add, but I just wanted to be more functional. But there is still a problem: ex: the results are 7 0 4 and I still get the message. I dont understand the separation. I mean I want that if one of the numbers is 7 and the sum of the 3 is more or = to 15 the message shows. By separating I think that this will became two different functions.
1 if 1 number is 7 the message shows
2 if the sum is >= 15 the message shows too
My goal is to combine those too things.

being only experienced in some java and wbasic, I can understand this and my probably useless idea is(excuse the commands in captials, thats Qbaisc for you):
Hope that helps. also >= might be affecting it. I always thought it used => in these things. but oh well ;)

Danny's suggestion's pretty damn useful. If it's not because of it, then at least for readability. The => won't work, though. It's >= for sure. As for combining the two ifs into one block... Danny's got the idea right, and the code too (except for the =>), although I'd put the First + Second + Third between brackets too.

Danny forgot the End if and if i put this it will separate the actions - the think i dont want

Nope, two If statements and two End Ifs... on the right spots.

oops havent saw

Edit:still some carzy results. 7 0 3 and i get the message :blink:

well, it is a descendent of basic.. but still, wow, I did something useful outside of school for once!

Yamcha, could you post your full code here? Well, the code you have now.

I think that I muist remove something but im not sure what :help:

Nope, nothing needs to be removed, just moved. As we said in the beginning, the position of
First = Val(Label1.Caption)
Second = Val(Label2.Caption)
Third = Val(Label3.Caption)
makes them take on the value of Label*.Caption from the last time it ran. Put those three lines under the randomizing of the value of Label*.Caption and it'll work fine :ok:

The mistake was that i havent saved the think. And when i strarted again the thinks were like this :D Now it must work :D