LucasArt is not more ESA!
 

See, for example, http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...rts-leaves-esa : LucasArt is leaving ESA.

Does this affect the abandoned status of old LucasArt games?

what happened to everybody :weird:

:nuts: It's like having a second Christmas in the middle of the year...
Ho! Ho! Ho!

Yups. Any LucasArts game not sold/supported is automatically AW now. :cool:

Woho!! yeah!! *dances* :D

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What games would that be?

Monkey Island (one) ? etc?

don't forget that most of them are still sold so..=/

hey but i remember that lucas had "infinity" protection to their games. does that somehow relate to the lucas arts company itself, or it's just broken since they left esa? what was the deal?

Indiana Jones and the Faith of Atlantis.. :idea:

I dont really get the sold part. When is a game not sold...I mean I can always get the game at ebay. Isnt it sold then? :S Or is it when amazon dont have any "NEW" articles..? when is a game not SOLD?

Please say that its abandonware now. :love::love:

ebay is auction. there are still officially original-for-sale bought copies. still in packages sold on amazon, cdaccess and other places.

yeah when there is no "NEW" then it's second hand, therefore not sold

by the way do not double post please

Aha okey, so when amazon don't have any new copies == abandoware..got it :)

*sorry for dubble post. :/

What we need now is a single "Company's that Left ESA" thread note all company's (with discussion)
and wonder why ESA is slowly bleeding dry... :wondering:

Is ESA not doing it's job properly or what.?

Monkey Island is still sold!

Here's a list of which LucasArt's games AMAZON is selling:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...asarts&x=0&y=0

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...160_AA115_.jpg
The LucasArts Archives: Volume III by LucasArts Entertainment (Windows 2000 / 95 / 98 / Me) 1 Used & new from $200.00


They are JOKING Right?? $200!!

not only amazon! any store


by the way GTX. that's a used copy, we don't care :)

Two words: Collector's item.
But it's used so just like _r.u.s.s. said we aint gonna give a damn.

BTW, since this is a major event for us, I just added a news item on the subject.

Quoting me at Request forum:
Abandonia had serious problems with Lucas Arts, they directly told us to not offer their games for download...not sure if we can allow the download now.
They are no more ESA protected but this doesn't mean that their games aren't protected anymore.

I mean, some companies aren't ESA members but their games are still protected after years.
Are we sure? We should pay attention this time :oh:

Very good call! Hope to see as many of these grand games up on the site as possible.

The latest news are great news!!!
Please let us know the list of games when ever you will decide what became downloadable.:)

What about Indy's Desktop Adventures?

Had a quick look, and couldn't find it for sale. So is it abadoned?
And Maniac Mansion?

what, nobody read david's post or what?

Well, let's take it slowly. All those game packs have to be checked, because if a game is sold as a part of the pack it still is for sale (and those classic archives usually included Maniac Mansion) just like later packs included Yoda Stories and Indy's Desktop Adventures.

Of course, we'll have to be careful about that.

Lucas Arts has always been very very very VERY strict about protecting its property.

Some 10 years ago (well, 9), PC GAMER UK (magazine for the uninitiated) had an issue about the new Phantom Menace game (that was before the movie was released). Now, the editor, James Flynn, receives strict terms before he's allowed to print ANYTHING related to Star Wars. Yes, even though the magazine was basically giving free publicity, he still had to sign a contract. And one of those things in the contract states that every magazine sold with any content directly referring to Star Wars or any of its content HAS to have a notice ON THE FRONT of the magazine stating Lucas Arts (c) etc.

Now, this one issue I mentioned, he forgot to add this copyright line. Result? They had to print 75.000 stickers with the line and spent two days sticking them to all magazines before they were allowed to be sent to subscribers and news agents.

So yeah, Lucas Arts are hard asses.

This is great news, but something smells bed here if you ask me. (Hard Ass)Publishers are leaving ESA and maybe they are planing to invent some new shity organisation for protection of their software...conspiracy is everywhere! :unsure:

lol you should stop watching zeitgeist and lose change movies

I just can't see Lucas Arts changing their stance on anything just because they left the ESA. I smell trouble if you turn even their non-sold games on for download. You had better get the OK from Studentis before you try anything like that. They seem to be the vulnerable party here. Would hate to see them shut down Abandonia rather than deal with a pending lawsuit.

Good news! :D
I really hate ESA, they took me into downloading.. THE FIRST COMMAND & CONQUER (when it was completely free) it took me a day to explain everything out.

wait, what? you explained somethign to ESA?

I think he meant to say that he got caught by ESA for downloading a game ?

yes. and i meant, wait what?

Yeah, or more to my internet-"dealers" so they didn't blocked my access to the internet.
But i just posted them a link to a ariticle where they said it was free, and explained them the sitioution, never heard from them since.

Wow. can you tell me where do you ilve and what is your internet provider?

Denmark, Telia Stofanet. :)

That's right, Abandonia acctually put some LucasArts games back for download around last new year! Remember Tom Henrik being very excited and posting about several titles that got permision after he made his deal with ESA.

Not sure what that deal was, but after that the 15 year rule was put in use and even LucasArt games older then 15 years were proclaimed abandoned. The games from LucasArts (like Loom or Zak McCracken) were hosted for a very short time, before they became protected yet again, so either that deal didn't work out, or something else happened.

Do we have anybody to talk to LucasArts??? Sierra/Vivendi??? Other major companies that aren't (or even still are) ESA members (after all even if ESA is protecting copyright, if the owner of the copyright says it's OK, it's OK).

Not that I know of.

It's bullshit anyway, even if they aren't part of the ESA anymore, hosting a good amount of those games will probably invite some e-mails requesting that we pull them back down if any of those companies happen to notice, and they're fully within the power to do so.

Making a news post about this was incredibly premature by the way.

I don't even know what is that. :laugh:
My post was 1/4 a joke and 3/4 a deep concern...think about that. ;)

my post wasn't as serious neither =)

Sorry, my enthusiasm got the better of me. :)

Thinking about it, I really doubt Lucas Arts will ever grant permission to host their files for download. I dunno if you noticed, but of all big developers/publishers, Lucas Arts is about the only one that has never released any game as freeware. Sierra had Betrayal at Krondor and a few other games for example, but what has Lucas Arts ever given? NOTHING. Even their totally ancient games are still heavily protected while other developers (like Revolution) are making their games freeware! Beneath A Steel Sky is younger than the bulk of Lucas Arts adventures and became freeware years ago.

No, what we get is a company that knows that it no longer has the success they used to have, and is now trying to use their old successes to make some more money. There's a reason so many of their 10+ year old games are still being sold and that's because they want to milk it for as long as they can.

I got to say, my respect for the current Lucas Arts is not even a 10th of what I had for the Lucas Arts of old, when they would really try to create top quality games without selling out to consoles.

If someone asks LucasArts about this issue and they say no. I can understand their wishes. We can just hope that they will release these classic games again. Or even convince em to release these games again. I think it doesnt hurt to ask about this.

I'll see if I can get in touch with anyone at LucasArts and ask for their permission.

if you decide not to then tell, i could too. cause you know, more people contacting LucasArts at once could be a little annoyng

Ya I agree. You dont want to annoy them.

Good luck :confused: