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Tulac 01-01-2005 11:16 PM

More and more I see people using firefox, so why is it so good?
I can understand that it's better than IE but what makes it better than Opera and In my case MYIE2, it can also block popups,activex,keep tabs and alike, so would somebody please tell me is it worth those 10 minutes to switch to Firefox or it doesn't matter , there's no difference anyway?

Wael 01-01-2005 11:18 PM

You left out Lynx

Tulac 01-01-2005 11:20 PM

Oh you're right, well Admins should add it , but there is the OTHER option you know...

mouse31e 01-01-2005 11:23 PM

I use (and voted for) Firefox.

I personally prefer Firefox and that is why I use it. It does have excellent adblocking features but only if you download the plugin. I like the download manager but it doesn't always remember to ask me about my downloads which IE always did. Also, Firefox seems to give me more unnecessary messages than IE did.

My verdict - If you are really comfortable with IE and would be uncomfortable changing, stick with IE it's not as bad as people make out. However, if you are confident with changing browser, try Firefox, it's a tiny download, it's free and you'll probably like it more than IE. :D

Firefox vs Opera.

Firefox is free. Opera is only free if you have ads taking up most of your browsing space. No contest. Firefox wins every time!

Wael 01-01-2005 11:23 PM

Yes but,
Lynx truly is such a big hit among all :sneaky:,
that it should be counted /-

jag 02-01-2005 12:08 AM

I've only switched from IE to Firefox recently and I can say it is was a good decision. It has so many advantages over IE, especially in security.

I have also used Opera in the past. It wasn't bad, but it's no Firefox.

Borodin 02-01-2005 12:18 AM

My preference is for Opera: easy to use, great configurability. Each to their own.

bjbrains2002 02-01-2005 12:30 AM

I prefer Firefox because of security, ease of use, tabbed browsing, and support for my search plugin (<- shamless plug).

Titan 02-01-2005 12:44 AM

Contiki webbrowser for C-64...

now beat THAT!

bjbrains2002 02-01-2005 12:58 AM

The only browser named after a forum member! LOL

Kon-Tiki 02-01-2005 01:13 AM

And you all better be using that from now on, as I'm rigging all other browsers :ph34r:

bjbrains2002 02-01-2005 01:23 AM

LOL kon-tiki, i don't own a c64!

Eagle of Fire 02-01-2005 01:30 AM

What's that? I voted IE but the vote got to Firefox/Mozilla instead??? :blink:

Well anyways, I wanted to vote IE because I never tryied any other browser other than Netscape (and that's because I had to) and I never could be bothered enough to change. I worked hard enough to try to get IE kind of safe, I seriously don't have that kind of time to do it with another browser again.

Borodin 02-01-2005 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Jan 2 2005, 02:30 AM
Well anyways, I wanted to vote IE because I never tryied any other browser other than Netscape (and that's because I had to) and I never could be bothered enough to change. I worked hard enough to try to get IE kind of safe, I seriously don't have that kind of time to do it with another browser again.
Check out the features on the others, though, if only to see what you might be missing. ;)

Rogue 02-01-2005 04:47 AM

I voted IE.

I am using Netscape and Opera too (just to be able to check web develompent of site), but most of the time I use just IE, with spybot protection (locked host list, locked home page, and IE preferences and couple of other goodies)

JJXB 02-01-2005 05:09 AM

i abandoned IE as soon as i could for firefox (tried opera as well but i didn't like it)

Puffin 02-01-2005 06:38 AM

I've got Firefox, and I really like it.
The main reason I got it, is because my school forum looks f**ked up in other browsers, and I'd heard great things about Firefox. And I really like it, especially the tabbed browsing and ad-blocker.
But I have to say, I've only tried Firefox, IE and I tried Netscape many years ago. Can't say much about Netscape, I wasn't much into computers back then..
I don't really like IE. Well, I have nothing against it, but I think that the tabbed browsings and Ad-block that i have on Firefox is really comfortable, and I hate it when I have to use IE on some other computers.. But I'm just so used to Firefox. And there seem to be more and more sites that support Firefox, like my school forum does. Everything is messed up in IE, pics are dislocated etc. And there seem to be more and more sites like that. I really reccomend Firefox ;)

feminista 02-01-2005 06:48 AM

I've got an answer for another reason not to use Opera: a totally screwed up rendering engine. Now, I'm not saying that it's not standards compliant, it probably is (though the fact that it is affected by the IE bug with CSS is pretty weird), but the fact remains that a great many sites render incorrectly with Opera, and correctly with Firefox. Firefox, on the other hand, remains the most standards-compliant and speedy rendering engine I've ever seen. I've gotten all my friends to use an alternative browser, and they thank me constantly and share my despair whenever we're forced to use IE.

One other thing I dislike about Opera, that seems a very minor complaint, but which bothers me to no end is this: Ctrl-~ doesn't cycle through your windows! You have to use Ctrl-1, Ctrl-2, Ctrl-3, etc, and hope to remember which is which! What could be more ridiculous? When I switched initially from Safari (mac user here), I found I could not get over this missing feature which I had taken for granted in IE and Safari. Luckily, I found it present in Firefox when I switched browsers again, and I'm now perfectly happy with my browsing experience. Thi probably matters to very few other people, especially since so many people use tabs anyway, but I'm EXTREMELY keyboard-oriented (can't stand tabs), and I MUST have a way to cycle between windows (on Windows you can Alt-Tab, but in hierarchical operating systems, we differentiate between programs and windows, optimizing processor speed (and dock space) by running only one instance of a program at a time, and using multiple instances of window objects instead). Rawr.

And as for our text-based friends, Links is far superior to lynx, because it supports tables, meaning poorly-designed pages will degrade better (doesn't matter with modern stylesheet-based design, but that's only about 3% of the internet). And furthermore, it has a stylish interface. And w3m looks good from what I've read, though I haven't tried it yet. Anyway, lynx is antiquated, and if you're into alternative browsers enough to use it, you should be using something else.

</rant>

Tulac 02-01-2005 09:50 AM

The results are odd.If you take a look at the sites statistics(there's a link a the bottom of the main page) , you can see that 80% of visitors use IE (or at least IE shells), I know that most of them aren't forum members and can't vote but still...

I would just recommend anyone who is still using IE , that it's really the smartest thing for them to switch, at least to MYIE2 or some other IE shell, because they can really make the browsing easier than in the normal IE , really people you'll see it's worth it!!!!

Eagle of Fire 02-01-2005 10:06 AM

Quote:

The results are odd.If you take a look at the sites statistics(there's a link a the bottom of the main page) , you can see that 80% of visitors use IE
That's not that odd, considering the question is about the prefered browser, not the one you actually use... ;)

Iron_Scarecrow 02-01-2005 10:10 AM

Or how about I use whatever I want.

Wael 02-01-2005 10:14 AM

Quote:

Or how about I use whatever I want.
Eh
"Missed the relevance"

But eagle as such is right,
We all like to use allways the worse brownser,
just for the kick of its /-

Iron_Scarecrow 02-01-2005 10:24 AM

That was for Tulac.

He pretty much told me I had to go and download Mozilla or Firefox. Anything But IE.

Stroggy 02-01-2005 10:50 AM

I like both Opera and Firefox.
IE is okay but clumsy to work with.

Danny252 02-01-2005 02:04 PM

IE is ok. gets me to abdnonia and back

Omuletzu 02-01-2005 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stroggy@Jan 2 2005, 01:50 PM
I like both Opera and Firefox.
IE is okay but clumsy to work with.

I agree with him, until the part with firefox, because i have never used it.Opera is great, IE is clumshy, and firefox is uncharted territory :D

@wael
poll fixed, lynx option added

JJXB 02-01-2005 03:29 PM

if you want it in nautical terms from me: firefox is sailing proudly, IE is at the bottom of the sea and opera is letting a lot of water in through the hull :P

Tulac 02-01-2005 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Jan 2 2005, 11:24 AM
That was for Tulac.

He pretty much told me I had to go and download Mozilla or Firefox. Anything But IE.

No I recommended it to you , but if you enjoy pop-ups , ads and unlimited trojan intrusions go ahead , there's no need for flaming.

Iron_Scarecrow 02-01-2005 03:51 PM

Well I never get pop ups or ads, and I've only gotten one Trojan thing since we last had our hard drive rebuilt, I think that was around March last year, March or April. So I'm quite happy with what I'm usuing.


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