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BonzaiThePenguin 18-12-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by marko river (Post 447959)
No problem... as you can see, you are natural for contributing :)

Haha, and you are a perfect fit for maintaining this community. Very patient and dedicated.

Anyway, review's up. I think I'm finished submitting this game, so I'll start going through the other games in the pack over the next few days. Perhaps I can use this newfound experience to get the games up and running.

marko river 18-12-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzaiThePenguin (Post 447960)
Haha, and you are a perfect fit for maintaining this community. Very patient and dedicated.

Anyway, review's up. I think I'm finished submitting this game, so I'll start going through the other games in the pack over the next few days. Perhaps I can use this newfound experience to get the games up and running.

Music for my ears, as well for ears of all retro gamers. You have support of millions... definitely :2thumbs:

BonzaiThePenguin 19-12-2012 01:11 PM

Alright, I was able to get the other games working sorta, but only with the CD-ROM inserted. Copying the files to the hard drive didn't work. :wacko:

To show how little effort was put into this software "pack", two of the games install different versions of QuickTime which are incompatible with each other. I had to manually delete the DLLs for both versions of QuickTime (as it does not include an uninstaller) and reinstall only one of them.

marko river 19-12-2012 02:37 PM

WTF??? That can't be right.... right? Damn, I have no idea how to handle it.

Well, if we put those games on site, we need a big flashing notice on review page... Actually, we could create some batch files to take care of those... But it's still a risk. How big is the ISO of the CD? And can remaining 3 games be played without this kind of hassle?

BonzaiThePenguin 20-12-2012 12:39 AM

I've been going through the various EXE files for Circus! to see if I can get it to point to the DLLs inside its own folder instead of installing it to C:\Windows.

Which brings up an interesting question: are you looking for abandonware that is bit-for-bit equivalent to what was originally sold, or is it okay to make some modifications in the interest of making it playable?

marko river 20-12-2012 10:56 AM

It is better to be playable, and we can offer original installer (or something) as extra.

I'm not sure how do you hack into EXE. Good luck. You need help (I can ask someone that might know something about it)?

Also, what about games that don't need QuickTime? are they fine?

BonzaiThePenguin 20-12-2012 01:46 PM

The EXE has the strings in plaintext, as in I can open the EXE in a text editor and see things like "SHOW\ELDANCE1.DIR". In theory I can change them to anything of the same length and just rename the files to match whatever I change it to. I also have some experience in "decompiling" and reverse-engineering DLL files, and the code for checking for the CD is stored in a separate DLL, so maybe I can come up with something that removes the check and lets me run it off the hard drive.

I'm working on Circus! first because I had never played it before and discovered that the music, graphics, and characters are all fantastic.

BonzaiThePenguin 20-12-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by marko river (Post 448009)
Also, what about games that don't need QuickTime? are they fine?

All of them appear to need QuickTime, but Math Ace Jr. uses the QT libraries included in its own folder. I'm not sure why the other games feel the need to sprawl the DLLs all over my hard drive when it's clearly not necessary.

marko river 20-12-2012 03:25 PM

Well good luck then, I hope your efforts end with success :OK:


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