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26-12-2017 09:44 PM
Kümmel
Optimal 52400

Its rule exploiting to the edge of cheating. But it is quite possible to win a perfect game scoring 52400 points. You need the Sorceress on impossible difficulty. go to saharia early, get dragons or other strong troops, conquer the world without losing troops, leaving arech. but do not let the king promote you beyond mage. at that point you will be horribly rich and able to command about 750 to 800 elves and one other weak c morale creature, like a sprite. the trick is the combination of the rather cheap instant army spell that will yield elves for the mage, and the fact that giving up a battle will not cost score. 750 elves may kill up to 6 dragons in one shot. do that and use the sprite's turn to press 'g', forfeiting the battle prior to Arech's turn. daemons and vampires fall prey to your magic or expendable archmages or druids. repeat the instant army exploit until the dragons become managable. the fortune i built when conquering the world was lost. but also a score-wise perfect victory was mine. note: this is as tedious as it sounds. only for hard-core fans wanting to prove something.
12-09-2017 01:24 AM
Mystvan It is cool that the first King’s Bounty still has fans.

I have not played this game yet, but I must admit that 1C Company did a pretty good job in sequel games. Beautiful songs, interesting history, fantastic graphics and, interestingly, the battle was of the type Strategy.

I am also amazed that some players here have excelled in their decisions so that they have had impressive results.
06-08-2016 11:15 AM
gleb2005
i got 52032 point

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kümmel View Post
Hey people! Anybody out there to beat my high score ? I offer

51960 points with but 110 followers killed (2 dragons died against Urthrax, 108
demons, giants and dragons died against Arech. Sorceress, impossible difficulty)

I reckon 52400 would be the theoretical maximum score but it seems to be
impossible to beat the last two villains without suffering casualities.
i got 52032 point
(i used raise control, clone speel, and Sorceress, impossible difficulty)

26-07-2015 11:00 AM
Kümmelmonster
Bowing to the Master

[quote=King Bountiful;463114]52400 is possible to get - I've done it twice - but it's time-consuming and the way to do it is definitely high on the wuss scale. (.. insidious completely immoral way of rule abuse ..)]

Why... that is ingenious (even though I pity all the elves who truly have to feel like the potted plant in "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy."). So... the sorceress is 'solved'. What about the other characters? :-)
26-07-2015 10:25 AM
Kuemmelmonster
Highscore

[quote=Kümmel;186419]Hey people! Anybody out there to beat my high score ? I offer

51960 points with but 110 followers killed (2 dragons died against Urthrax, 108
demons, giants and dragons died against Arech. Sorceress, impossible difficulty)

I reckon 52400 would be the theoretical maximum score but it seems to be
impossible to beat the last two villains without suffering casualities.]

Challenge accaepted and met! I offer 52332 with 17 followers killed. I reckon one might even whittle that down to as little as 2 (two) followers killed. Goes like this:

You need a town with Raise Control for the gig. And a sorceress.
Once she is a Mage and you have plundered all of the 4 continents (including all villains
but Arech himself) have yourself e.g. 1 sprite, 1 barbarian, 1 nomad and store them in a castle you
already conquered.
Then instant army a huge elven troop of not much less than 6500 elves.
Get promoted to Archmage.
Then have yourself 65000 Leadership using Raise Control spells.
Abuse instant army and clone to get around 900 druids and say 400 archmages as well as 1 dwarf.
Take these 3 Troops to Arech's castle.
Have the dwarfs wait and obliterate the vampires and the demons.
During the dwarf's move forfeit the battle.
Now grab the elves, token sprite, barbarian, and nomad and again abuse the clone spell in order to get
as ridiculously awesome a number of giants as you can afford.
Again attack Arech in his castle.
The tokens move in.
The giants obliterate the first smaller dragon stack. (Well, I wasted some money during my run and the giants left 2 dragons over which in the end ruined my score to said 52332, since the large dragon group got a whack on the giants -- even though I resurrected them right away they counted as dead! Still I think the principle of this way of play is proven)
The elves obliterate the second smaller dragon stack.
A token troop gets eaten.
Elves and giants have at the lot of dragons.
Another token gets eaten.
Elves and giants obliterate the large dragon stack.

You might accuse me of playing munchkin style here, still I truly believe that this strategy might bring a patient player up to 52392 points -- potentially leaving still room for improvement! Any ideas?
30-05-2015 05:21 PM
King Bountiful
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kümmel View Post
Hey people! Anybody out there to beat my high score ? I offer

51960 points with but 110 followers killed (2 dragons died against Urthrax, 108
demons, giants and dragons died against Arech. Sorceress, impossible difficulty)

I reckon 52400 would be the theoretical maximum score but it seems to be
impossible to beat the last two villains without suffering casualities.
52400 is possible to get - I've done it twice - but it's time-consuming and the way to do it is definitely high on the wuss scale.

The trick is to do it with the Sorceress. You can get up to the last two villains without losing any followers without too much difficulty, but you can't beat them straight up without losing dudes...unless you retreat a billion times. Here's how:

For this to work, you need to make relentless use of the Instant Army spell. With the sorceress, Instant Army gives you Druids once you get promoted to the highest level, but Druids can't shoot dragons, so you don't want that. Instead, you have to avoid being promoted for it to work; at the second-highest level, Instant Army gives the sorceress elves.

So...you enter Arech's castle with several thousand elves (via Instant Army and Raise Control) as well as one sprite. The elves take one shot, killing some chunk of dragons (most I got was 19), and then on the sprite's turn, you Give Up; this way, the dragons don't get a turn and a chance to tear your elves apart. Sad music plays, you lose all your troops and your siege engines...but your score doesn't suffer and you don't lose any followers. Buy another siege engine, one more sprite, and a ton of instant army spells, and do it again...and slowly, you kill all the dragons without losing anyone (Arech's castle doesn't get repopulated after your retreat). And voila...perfect score of 52400.
18-01-2014 10:08 AM
emaildave0421@yahoo.com
Dave- Yes I beat your score

Forgot to post. My score was 52,400.

Quote:
Originally Posted by emaildave0421@yahoo.com View Post
My army was 40 dragons, 360 archmages, 181 Demons, 240 Knights, 454 Calvary. o followers killed. I killed the demons with my archmage, then froze the vampire and killed it with my second archmage hit. Got lucky on my demon attack and halved the 104 dragons. Then attacked with my knights, Calvary and dragons taken no damage for second, third, and forth attacks. Continued using resurrection on my demon, while attacking the big dragon unit. Once he was dead, I had no one attack the last two dragon units, kept my demons near the two while using resurrection. I left the battle with 0 followers killed. The key is using the resurrection spell. Good luck, guess you posted this 9 years ago.
18-01-2014 10:06 AM
emaildave0421@yahoo.com
Dave- Yes I beat your score

My army was 40 dragons, 360 archmages, 181 Demons, 240 Knights, 454 Calvary. o followers killed. I killed the demons with my archmage, then froze the vampire and killed it with my second archmage hit. Got lucky on my demon attack and halved the 104 dragons. Then attacked with my knights, Calvary and dragons taken no damage for second, third, and forth attacks. Continued using resurrection on my demon, while attacking the big dragon unit. Once he was dead, I had no one attack the last two dragon units, kept my demons near the two while using resurrection. I left the battle with 0 followers killed. The key is using the resurrection spell. Good luck, guess you posted this 9 years ago.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Kümmel View Post
Hey people! Anybody out there to beat my high score ? I offer

51960 points with but 110 followers killed (2 dragons died against Urthrax, 108
demons, giants and dragons died against Arech. Sorceress, impossible difficulty)

I reckon 52400 would be the theoretical maximum score but it seems to be
impossible to beat the last two villains without suffering casualities.

In order to offer something useful besides showing off two nice hints:

My winning team against old arech:
-----------------------------------------
About 50 Dragons (general sucking and first punishment absorbing crew)
A clone troop of Giants (never mind their moral, they, too, absorbed
a lot of punishment)
A clone troop of Archmages (First Fireball finished off the demons, second
the vamps)
A clone troop of demons (I HAD a lot of luck with their "half" attack)
A clone troop of elves (great even with morale low)
1 Turn Undead (first battle round) and some Resurrection spells.
In preparation one single Raise Control (Could'nt buy more... I thought
for a long time that each spell is represented in at least one town. But
I was mistaken here)

Desser crossing:
-------------------
It is possible to pass desserts without losing time. Just use a time stop
spell. True, it will lose it's power once you step on the sands, but no
day will be lost. Simply cast another time stop and move on one more step.
Costs you 200GP per step but it saves time on continentia, forestria and
especially saharia.

General strategy:
--------------------
The earlier post about rushing through the continents before exploring them
and returning to continentia with much too much leadership and high end
troops to pester poor Murray is fine. Play the game this way if you do not
mind unbalanced battles.

General Thanks:
-------------------
Good job putting this old jewel on the site! (I myself bought it a long time ago
but I am happy that it is once again possible to get a hold on this game)
29-06-2011 11:25 AM
filemoore I started playing this since 1993 on an Apple II. A couple years later I picked it up for my Mac and have been playing it since. just moving it from one mac to the next.

What all have been saying about strategies for this game is great. I figured it out a long time ago, that a player can beat impossible in as many days as it takes them to find the town that sells the stop time and town gate spells. I got lucky once and stop time was in the first town. I beat the game in 5 days.

And as one player had stated earlier yes Knight is the hardest to play and sorceress is the easiest just with the fact that you have the ability to buy and cast spells.

the finial battles with dragons, demons and vampires. The had forgotten to mention one very powerfull piece, the Knight, a horde of knights with a teleport spell can take out a very nice sized pack of dragons, and be within reach the second round for the next pack of dragons. and even if they come up against alot of demons they can still do a lot of damage it half their ranks.

I will be honest i have even went to the extent (using Excel) of making a spread sheet grid that lists the towns and spells and i just have to put an x to make which town has which spell. I also did that for the castles and villians. (Oh yeah and I also mapped out all 4 contintents with colored squares for terrain.) (side note excel is a over thinkers best friend.)

There are also other ways of playing the game and really getting your armies up. Raise control lasts for one week. cast that on our self and then instant army. and this can be done many times over.

I have to stop. I babble too much. But this game really is designed to make a player think, solve puzzles, manage time, money, and man power. and can do this in one afternoon or over the course of a couple days.
15-01-2009 03:25 PM
tro81
you can fly

i had this game on the mega drive, and no matter how many times i completed it, i just kept coming back for more. One tip i found useful for picking up treasure chest etc with out the danger was to fly around. you must have only flying units in your army to do this( except sprites as they are too small). Also one of the only ways i could think of to beat the last boss was to give all the money i found away to build up my moral. then pick up loads of instant army spells for a 1000 each. that way you can get a really large army for text to nothing just before you go into battle.
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