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12-04-2005 01:00 PM
mika Yeah, but you might not remember the name, so you might want to search for it in the body text. Or you might want to list all the games based no WAR. The reason for an advanced search is that you could mix and match certain criteria which you wouldn't be able to do with only one dropdown selection.
24-03-2005 06:38 PM
Havell I don't think a seperate page would be necessary, just a drop-down menu which is set to "Game name" by default. One thing I've noticed about the search box is that searching for part of a game's name yields no results (eg, searching for "Civ" doesn't work), this is kind of irritating and it would be nice if it were fixed so we can search for parts of game's names.
24-03-2005 03:42 PM
mika My 2c:

1. Kosta, if you want to build an advanced search (or maybe just improve the current search) check out MySql's Full Text Search Functionality.

2. On the keyword front (or rather themes as underdogs calls them) I think it would be brilliant to standardise on these. What I mean by that is actually have the same themes and make sure all games fall into the same themes as underdogs (and any other abandonware site that wants to participate). It would be much better if games on all the abandonware sites get sorted into the same categories, less confusions and easier to search for. Plus it helps as underdogs already have their games sorted and we could use that data to update our games (at least the ones that are the same).

3. I think it would be best to leave the search box at the top as is (as a quick search) and then have a separate page available from the left-hand menu which would have the advanced search facilities. This is how it's mostly done over the net and I don't see any reason to deviate from the norm (think google).

(Heh, I can just see the developer in me talking from points 2 & 3 )
22-03-2005 07:57 PM
BeefontheBone I think dropdown boxes look neater and more professional - you could have a "search by..." one with things like reviewer, genre and so on, and then another one for the compatibility (since there's only 2 or 3 options for it)

and maybe even one or two for category, depending on how long they'd end up being (which depends on the category) - you could then use the space currently occupied by the genre options on the left-hand side for it since that'd be incorporated.
22-03-2005 04:55 PM
Game Phre|< k: Outstanding idea.

I agree that the search shouldn't take up a whole page by itself (too much clutter ). However a drop down menu, or a java menu would work pretty well.

Check out the search feature at best buy Best Buy Simple but effective.
22-03-2005 08:32 AM
Flop
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Originally posted by Omuletzu+Mar 22 2005, 09:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Omuletzu @ Mar 22 2005, 09:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flop@Mar 22 2005, 09:22 AM
(it would be a bit stupid to have a genre if only two games fit in it).
Yes but it would be wise to do this now, then to do it a year later, when the site has 1000+ games [/b][/quote]
True, but you still have to ask yourself if a certain category is sensible to have, which I think is easiest done when categorising the games that are already on abandonia, since that's when you'll see how many actually fit in each of the categories you have already settled on. You can then modify the categories if certain of them have none or almost no games in them (or maybe split a category up if it has several hundred games in it). Of course you'll have to take into consideration that new games will be added, as you say, but you'll still get a pretty good picture of how many games of each kind there are, I think. Basically what I'm saying is, that it's kind of stupid to create a category just for the sake of the category, if no games fit in it.

It's true that new games will be added to the site, and that some of them may fill out a category that otherwise would only include a couple of games, but I still think you have to be sensible when creating the categories. For instance, a category like postapoc-scifi-horror, is pretty narrow, and odds are that no matter how many games are added it will never include more than a couple of games. I'd prefer to have a realistic number of main categories, that could then be combined, when doing an advanced search, to narrow down a few games (this would of course mean that some games would have to be included in more than one category).
22-03-2005 08:24 AM
marko river I already wanted to seee advanced search. Well, besides HOTU and their themes, take a look at www.lemon64.com

It is no extraordinary, it's just efficent.

And i like the idea of themes very much, since genres really wasn't good enough. When i was searching through the HOTU for a certain game, i searched using themes, since i wanted epic fantasy and so. Very very good stuff.
22-03-2005 07:16 AM
Omuletzu
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Originally posted by Flop@Mar 22 2005, 09:22 AM
(it would be a bit stupid to have a genre if only two games fit in it).
Yes but it would be wise to do this now, then to do it a year later, when the site has 1000+ games

22-03-2005 06:22 AM
Flop I like the idea about being able to search by year and user rating, but I doubt a function that lets you search by reviewer will be used much. As someone already pointed out, people mainly come here to get the games, not to read reviews made by a specific person. If it's all implemented in an advanced search, though, the reviewer search function might as well be implemented.

Personally I'd prefer if at least the keywords are implemented both in an advanced search function, and as categories in a seperate box in the left side bar (like the gategories of games that already exist). Also I don't see any reason why some games couldn't have several keywords attached to them. Example: Sherlock Holmes - Case of the Serrated Scalpel could be categorized both as a mystery and as a licensed game, the Space Quest games could be categorised as both science fiction games and humorous games, etc.

Obviously this depends on how many and how specific the keywords will be, which brings us on to what I think will be one of the biggest challenges of this project; deciding on some good keywords. I have a couple of suggestions here:


Fantasy
Historical
Horror
Humorous
Licensed (games that are based on books, movies, etc.)
Mystery
Science Fiction
Western

These are the most important ones IMO, but feel free to criticise or suggest more.

I think however, that the final categories to be used will be decided during the process of actually categorising the games, since that's when you find out how many games fit into each category and so you may have to make alterations (it would be a bit stupid to have a genre if only two games fit in it).

When the categories to be used have been decided upon and the time for categorising the games comes along, I wouldn't mind helping out if it's needed.
22-03-2005 12:26 AM
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