Where To Go?

[kajjj]

I am planning to go on holiday to Slovenia or Croatia this year. Anyone knows places worth seeing and staying there?
I know this is not a 'game' topic, nevertheless I believe this is a good place to ask - so many members come from thehe countries...
I will appreciate any info.

[Master MC]

Look around - almost the entire Blah section isn't about games!

[Tulac]

Depends really what you're looking for, are you looking for partying, sight seeing, or just plain sunbathing?

[#BlakhOle#]

Come to australia! its nice and warm this time of year. ish. But we got cool stuff here too. Like big rocks, and opera houses, and if you look hard enough you see my house. :ok: Ill be waving!!

[Master MC]

Are you from the part of Australia where the people descend from criminals?

Anyway, I heard these countries are really cheap. A friend of mine went there and he eat goulash all the time. Poor basterd.

[punch999]

Originally posted by Master MC@Mar 19 2006, 07:40 PM
Are you from the part of Australia where the people descend from criminals?

Anyway, I heard these countries are really cheap. A friend of mine went there and he eat goulash all the time. Poor basterd.
Goulash happens to be one of the best foods in the world.

[Kon-Tiki]

Dunno anything 'bout either countries, except that if you'd go to Croatia, you've got to see the National Theatre in Zagreb. That is, unless you don't like outstanding architecture :P

[Playbahnosh]

You might as well come to Hungary ^_^ My university is in Veszprém, I'm here most of the time, but I live in Zalaegerszeg otherwise. I can tell you quite alot of things to see around here :ok: And My dorm is also a great Hotel*** so so staying here would be easy, and you can stay at my place in Zalaegerszeg too :ok:

[gregor]

yes it really depends on what you want to see. are you more interested in historic buildings or natural wonders? and also depends how you are traveling (by bus or by car - i don't recomend the train in Slovenia).

Here are some tourist destinations in Slovenia that are worth seeing:

Town Ptuj and it's castle
Logarska Valey - but only if you are with a car. the road is bad, but if weather is good it's worth going there
Town Celje it's castle and regional museum (inside the town) (www.celje.si)
Ljubljana - because it's a capital and has some interesting architecture. there in you can go to the castle (i recomend the 3D multimedia show about history of Ljubljana there), visit the national galery and well see the sites. it's it's warm you might want to visit one of the cafes in old part of town. (www.ljubljana.si)

Bled - well pictures speak for themselves. (www.bled.si)

Postojna Cave - ride with the train into the underworld. can be crowdy from tourists but very nice and very big (www.postojnska-jama.si)

Coastal city of Piran - navigate the very narrow streets to reach the outer city walls and church. (www.piran.si)

If you have time and interested in history it is also interesting to see Kobarid 1st WW museum and surroundings (www.kobarid.si)

and if you want to relax a bit try one of many spa's - Therme Olimia (www.terme-olimia.com), Laško (www.zdravilisce-lasko.si), Moravske toplice (http://www.terme3000.si/home.php), Terme Čatež (www.terme-catez.si) and many more...

If you are interested in WW 2 history you might want to see Begunje concentration camps, Partizan hospital Franja (fully operational & never discovered partisan hospital) and Base 20 (HQ deep in the forest).

Croatia i recomend: Zagreb, Dubrovnik (old part of city), Split (emperor's palace), Pula (arena etc.) and i also susggest one of the islands. just for fun. :D

[#BlakhOle#]

Originally posted by Master MC@Mar 19 2006, 11:40 PM
Are you from the part of Australia where the people descend from criminals?
Wossat supposed to mean? :unsure: (suspicious looks)

[Grinder]

When Australia was a british colony, they dumped criminals there. When it became independent, they were free and became statesmen.

...aren't you from Australia?

[/arrogant_nerd_mode]

[Iron_Scarecrow]

Very little of the Australian population actually consists of those convicts or the descendents of those convicts.

[Luso]

Originally posted by #BlakhOle#@Mar 19 2006, 11:23 PM
Come to australia! its nice and warm this time of year. ish. But we got cool stuff here too. Like big rocks, and opera houses, and if you look hard enough you see my house. :ok: Ill be waving!!
Some day I go! :) :bye:
Wait for me!

Come to visit Portugal, we have here of everything!
We only do not have desert but already it lacks little! :cry:

[Iron_Scarecrow]

That's ok, deserts aren't all that great.

[#BlakhOle#]

Originally posted by Grinder@Mar 20 2006, 09:24 AM
When Australia was a british colony, they dumped criminals there. When it became independent, they were free and became statesmen.

...aren't you from Australia?

[/arrogant_nerd_mode]
Oh yeeeahhh... :whistle: I knew that. Nah but seriously i didnt know what he was talking aout at the start there sorry. :D And if im descended from a convict, well nobody told me. :angry:

[Rogue]

Originally posted by kajjj@Mar 19 2006, 05:02 PM
I am planning to go on holiday to Slovenia or Croatia this year. Anyone knows places worth seeing and staying there?
I know this is not a 'game' topic, nevertheless I believe this is a good place to ask - so many members come from thehe countries...
I will appreciate any info.
I was in Bohisnjska Bistrica and Bled in Slovenia, and it is great vacation destination for winter, but not so sure 'bout summer. (If you like hiking, it might be a nice destination)

As Slovenia is a small country, you can actually visit most of interesting places without driving to much.

Dalmatia is nice with many historical locations, so any place will have something to offer.

You can even decide to go to Bosnia, where in April will start work on site which supposed to have first European pyramid. (Near Visoko, 25Km from Sarajevo)

If there is a Pyramid belove there, European history require some fixes. :)

[gregor]

oh i forgot: Plitvice. althought i am not sure their current status i remember them as being quite beautiful (before the war).


sure Bled is nice in summer too. you can camp near the lake, take walks arround it, visit the castle, enjoy ice-cream with a view, row the lake with a canu, cycle arround...

[Rogue]

I think that I heard that Plitvice are nice attraction again.

Hm, you can go to Brioni and shoot a bear or two... :D

Only requirement: You have to have 'Cuba cigar' (Gift from friend Castro) and be called Tito. LOL

[Grinder]

Originally posted by #BlakhOle#@Mar 20 2006, 12:24 PM
If I'm descended from a convict, well nobody told me. :angry:
Those evil, evil scientists... :bleh:

[Sebatianos]

When are you coming? How long are you staying?

I'd be more then happy to show you around (and if you need a place to crash - Rainwife and I have some spare room to accomodate you).

But if you'd rather go exploring on your own, there are a few tours I'd suggest (for Slovenija):
- first take some time to get to know the capital (Ljubljana).

-from Ljubljana up to lake Bled (there you should stop to see the Vindgar gorge) with the pilgram church on the tiny island on the lake;
- next lake Bohinj and possibly the waterfall Savica;
- continue to the mountain pass Vršič and go down to the Trenta Valley (beautiful nature);
- once you reach Kobarid you should visit the WW1 museum (the Soča front);
- while near Soča you can decide to go rafting, canoeing... (if that's your sort of thing);
- continue to Nova Gorica (where you can do some gambling as well);
- next you should go to Lipica (where the famous white horses come from) and from there to the Postojna cave (and if you have the time to Škocjanske caves);
- now you'd probably be returning back to Ljubljana (the capital - to finish the first 2-3 day tour).

- next tour takes you south-east, where you should visit the castles on Dolenjska, deffinetly see Kostanjevica na Krki, the monastery Pleterje, Otočec, the monastery Stična, Novo Mest, castle Žuženberg...
- you'll probably end up in Brežice (Čatež) and enjoy a day at the spa;
- now go up to Rogaška Slatina and experiance the craft of glass/crystal making;
- continue up to Slovenska Bistrica (you should sneak a peak at the abandoned monastery Žiče when you're near) and continue from Slovenska Bistrica toward Ptuj (the Castle, the museum, the spa...).
- from there you should go toward Ormož, then Jeruzalem (excelent wine), Ljutomer (stop at our place for lunch - and end the second tour).

- the last tour should take you from Ljutomer to Murska Sobota and along the northern boarder towards Maribor (check out the city) and then head towards the Croatian boarder (passing Ptuj once again).

[_r.u.s.s.]

it sounds like walkthrough for indiana jones

[Rogue]

- next lake Bohinj and possibly the waterfall Savica;

I forgot this name. I saw them, and it is beautiful. I would add Vogel (if that's correct name) as from there you can have great view on rest of the Alps. :D

[kajjj]

I love your ideas. I'll be coming in August, by plane (intend to rent a car on place). And I will be coming with my husband and daughter, so we probably will stay in a hotel, but thanks for your hospitality Sebastianos! I really appreciate it.

@Playbahnosh, I have visited Hungary maaany times. It is a very beautiful country indeed. That is my second option. I usually stay in Siofok (or something like that).

And going to Australia would probably ruin my budget.

[Rogue]

I whish I have that great expirance from Hungary...

My expirance was: 14 days, 2 hours 45 minutes of horror. :blink: We were carantined and closed in old Hungarian army camp. Russian army camp was better, so Hungarian army moved out. (so you can imagine what kind of room we had)

Well, I was one of those who jumped from the second floor and got away for a day or two just not to be closed again. :D

[Glista]

There are a lot of fun paces in Croatia, try some of the islands or bigger cities on the coast, I recommend Rab, Rijeka, Zadar, Pula, or Pag. I dont know about Slovenija

[Tulac]

Istra, has a lot of nice places, pitoresque towns, they compare it to Toscany, also there's a good film festival in August in one of the towns there - Motovun, and Istra is close to Slovenia if you plan on visiting both countries...
I don't much about Dalmatia's beatuies because I haven't been there...

[Rogue]

When is 'Sinjska Alka'?

[Tulac]

Also in August, yeah that's a tradition worth seeing too I guess...

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by kajjj@Mar 20 2006, 06:56 PM
I'll be coming in August, by plane (intend to rent a car on place).
Well, if you're landing in Slovenia this may be a slight problem, but seeing as both Rainwife and I are free in August we should deffinetly work something out. I never knew you had a child (how old is she?). Depending on her age the itinerary should probably change a bit (it should be less full and at somewhat different location) - you should probably leave out the Dolenjska castles then (the monasteries and castles really wouldn't be too suited for a little child. If she's over the age of 4/5 then there's no problem!

With a child you should deffinetly go to Celje and visit Herman's brlog (it's a children museum - very popular) and probably have a stay at Aqualand (it used to be a thermal spa, but is now a water-fun park). It would be one of the locations on the way from Brežice (Čatež) towards Slovenska Bistrica.

There's lots of other things I could recomend, if you tell me what interests you (and I've been showing Slovenia around to many people already and they've all been very impressed with the country, so I know what's worth seeing).

If you wan't I can PM you my phone number just in case anything goes wrong (after all the furthest location in Slovenia is only a five hour drive away from where I am), so if you run into any trouble...

[gregor]

August, huh? crowded roads....

Istra and dalmatia is hot, hot, hot... be sure to take the swimsuit with you :)

[kajjj]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Mar 20 2006, 08:42 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Mar 20 2006, 08:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-kajjj@Mar 20 2006, 06:56 PM
I'll be coming in August, by plane (intend to rent a car on place).
Well, if you're landing in Slovenia this may be a slight problem, but seeing as both Rainwife and I are free in August we should deffinetly work something out. I never knew you had a child (how old is she?). Depending on her age the itinerary should probably change a bit (it should be less full and at somewhat different location) - you should probably leave out the Dolenjska castles then (the monasteries and castles really wouldn't be too suited for a little child. If she's over the age of 4/5 then there's no problem!

With a child you should deffinetly go to Celje and visit Herman's brlog (it's a children museum - very popular) and probably have a stay at Aqualand (it used to be a thermal spa, but is now a water-fun park). It would be one of the locations on the way from Brežice (Čatež) towards Slovenska Bistrica.

There's lots of other things I could recomend, if you tell me what interests you (and I've been showing Slovenia around to many people already and they've all been very impressed with the country, so I know what's worth seeing).

If you wan't I can PM you my phone number just in case anything goes wrong (after all the furthest location in Slovenia is only a five hour drive away from where I am), so if you run into any trouble... [/b][/quote]
My daughter is 5 so I don't think it would be a problem in walking around, especially that she got used to wandering around with us.
I absolutely love the idea of going to Slovenia after all that you have written here.
I am also looking forward to the possibility of meeting both of you, like a mini-abandonia-meeting :bleh:

What would be the problem with landing in Slovenia?

It would be great if you could show us around. Maybe if you plan to come to UK, we might give you a 'shelter' in our home and show what we think is interesting here...

[Sebatianos]

Well there could be a problem with transportation. The public transport isn't really all that good, so if you're not travelling organized you might have problems getting from the airport to a city. From what I remember there's no rent-a-car at Brnik (the main airport) and if you're landing in Maribor, there's deffinetly not one.

So unless you know you have a shuttle organized to take you from the airport (not all airlines have that) you might find yourself being stuck at the airport!

[Rogue]

Originally posted by kajjj@Mar 20 2006, 04:12 PM

What would be the problem with landing in Slovenia?

If pilot is not quick on the brake you might end in Croatia, Italy, Austria ... LOL :tomato:

[gregor]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Mar 20 2006, 09:53 PM
Well there could be a problem with transportation. The public transport isn't really all that good, so if you're not travelling organized you might have problems getting from the airport to a city. From what I remember there's no rent-a-car at Brnik (the main airport) and if you're landing in Maribor, there's deffinetly not one.

So unless you know you have a shuttle organized to take you from the airport (not all airlines have that) you might find yourself being stuck at the airport!
They have transport to Ljubljana bus stop. i think it's a regular line. isnt' it? i mean is saw it in Ljubljana.

Edit: like i said there is a bus

BUS:
http://www.lju-airport.si/eng/vsebina.asp?IDm=100

Rent-a-car (i don't know if they actually have it at the airport...)
http://www.lju-airport.si/eng/vsebina.asp?IDm=217

and Taxi:
http://www.lju-airport.si/eng/vsebina.asp?IDm=102

239 SIT = 1 EUR

[Sebatianos]

Well sure, you won't be stuck on the airport for days... you'll be able to get someplace - but I suggest taking a taxi to either Kranj or Ljubljana (there you will finally reach civilization).

[gregor]

they really ought to build some fast monorail train at least to Kranj if not even to Ljubljana.

yah the airport really seem slike it's in the middle of nowhere :)

but no worries kajjj. plenty of transport options. just avoid the train (unless it's the museum train).

[Romano]

I like Rovinj / Rovigno in Istria (Croatia) but I am biased :)
And it is close to Slovenia as well!

[Rogue]

That's nice picture Romano.

[velik_m]

Originally posted by gregor@Mar 21 2006, 12:22 PM
they really ought to build some fast monorail train at least to Kranj if not even to Ljubljana.

yah the airport really seem slike it's in the middle of nowhere :)

but no worries kajjj. plenty of transport options. just avoid the train (unless it's the museum train).
aren't all the trains in Slovenia museum trains? LOL