View Full Version : The Best Rpg's Of All The Time
FreeFreddy
10-10-2004, 07:47 AM
Now it's time for discussion about which RPG's were the best once, I guess. Not that only adventures can be great games. :sneaky:
My first RPG at all was WarWizard. It was shareware though, but it was such exiting, I played it probably around 15-20 times anew. Too bad I wasn't able to find the full version of it everywhere even up today... :rolleyes:
And the official site where they say they'll put the full version somewhere later up still contains just the shareware version and they seem to not care about that much... :cry:
Well, also there's another one, which became it's place in my heart the first time I played it. Lands of Lore - The Throne of Chaos (which wouldn't hurt to be put up on our site for download, btw.). As usual for Westwood games of that times, the graphics were drawn excellent and music was really catching. You can listen to 4 samples of it on the main site as an example, but many music tracks in the game sound even better. :wub:
Tom Henrik
10-10-2004, 08:23 AM
Just too bad that none of the RPG's on computers come anywhere close to the RPG's in paper & pen format :sneaky:
FreeFreddy
10-10-2004, 08:52 AM
Well, if you don't count good music, often nice drawn graphics and sound + speech (in some games) that add to the lively atmosphere of the games on computers that are missing in the pen & paper RPG's, then yes... :sneaky:
gdp2000
10-10-2004, 10:29 AM
I hope we can talk about non dos games on this forums, because my favourite rpg of all time is Ambermoon by Thalion on the Amiga. Windows users can try WinUAE, the best Amiga emulator and play the game.
You should really try this out. You'll be amazed.
c ya
gdp2k
Stroggy
10-10-2004, 12:17 PM
I have just begun playing RPG games so I don't really know.
I do know that, the part that I have played of Planescape Torment, was very very immersive (never finished it)
Betrayal at Krondor looks like fun... but not very friendly towards people who haven't read Raymond E. Feist's books (me, for example)
I can vaguely piece the story together from what I have heard of people who have read the books... but there are still a lot of holes which kinda ruin the thing.
Morrowind was fun, but not the best ever.
Knights of the Old Republic was very immersive, but its more of an ActionRPG than a regular RPG game.
Gothic and Gothic II are fun and all.
all in all I can't really say there is a game that deserves a title like "best RPG of all time" meinly since I haven't played enough of them to make a real opinion.
Some of the games I've enjoyed the most are (in no particular order):
Fallout 1 and 2
Ultima VII - Black Gate
Realms of Arkania 2 - Star Trail
Eye of the Beholder 2
Bard's Tale 1
Legend of Blacksilver
Planescape: Torment
All these are highly recommended.
There are loads more that I love.. Just can't bother listing them all here ;D
Tom Henrik
11-10-2004, 02:49 PM
HEY!!!!!
:bye:
IT'S ANTI!
(Just kidding)
I... er... uhm... I..
/me runs away
Tom Henrik
11-10-2004, 02:53 PM
Aaaaawwww......
Don't be afraid.... :lol:
Jumjalum
11-10-2004, 03:56 PM
Baldur's Gate is probably my favourite RPG. Great story, great world, lots of classes, great humour, great characters, interesting setting. It's also huge, but not as huge as it's sequel Baldur's Gate II.
Braindead
11-10-2004, 04:27 PM
Well I have to vote for Mordor: The Depths Of Dejenol here :)
Originally posted by underdogs review
One of the very best shareware RPGs ever made, with very high production value and longevity that rivals the best commercial games, Mordor: The Depths of Dejenol is an epic fantasy RPG in the best dungeon hack tradition set by Rogue. Mordor introduces a user-friendly interface and above average graphics without sacrificing hundreds of hours of gameplay. Despite the name, the game is not based on Tolkien's classic Lords of the Ring novels but an entirely original gameworld, populated by strange monsters and races that AD&D fans will find refreshingly unique. In addition to familiar character classes (called "guilds" in the game) such as warriors and wizards, you can play as scavenger (cross between a warrior and a thief), nomad (quick learner), or even villain (fallen thief). The same goes for races: you can choose to be a morloch (cousin of trolls) or osiri (distant relative of elves) in addition to human, ogres, trolls, and other typical AD&D races. Choose your alignment as Good, Neutral, or Evil, then off you go to the dungeon of Mordor for fame and fortune.
Despite what the lengthy background reading in the manual would have you believe, Mordor is a dungeon hack where the plot takes a (very far) back seat. The game can be summed up as: go down into the dungeon, kill monsters, search the corpses, find treasures, go back to town to sell treasures and heal, go down into the dungeon again (deeper this time). It may sound very boring to some, but as they say, the devil is in thedetails... and Mordor has got enough details to put Diablo to shame. There are dozens of spells, hundreds of monsters, items, and many detailed (bordering on anal) features Rogue fans have come to expect from Roguelike descendants. You can, for example, "bind" monsters to be your companions by casting the charm spell on them. Once charmed, these monsters will be your allies in battles, and you can sell them in the town of Marlith once you go back to the surface to heal and replenish supplies. The game literally offers *hundreds* of hours of gameplay, especially if you want to explore every nook and cranny in Mordor. If you are a Rogue or NetHack fan who wants to try a faithful Roguelike with good graphics, look no further than Mordor. It may not be the most charming or original game, but it's still one of the best dungeon hacks that deserves a lot more attention. Two thumbs up!
if you want to know more, well then... -> points to www button in my profile :)
Havell
11-10-2004, 09:02 PM
My problem with Mordor is that Ialways end up dying without enough money on me for reincarnation so I end up permanantly dead :huh: last time this happened I just created lots of new characters, transfered the gold to my main person and deleting the characters until I had enough money, I did this once before getting bored when he died again.
Nosam
11-10-2004, 11:08 PM
I loved Lands of Lore.......those were the days! Throne of Chaos(the first one) was the best one in my opinion.
Eagle of Fire
12-10-2004, 06:07 AM
The best RPG I ever played is Chrono Trigger.
'nuff said.
Braindead
12-10-2004, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by R Havell@Oct 11 2004, 09:02 PM
My problem with Mordor is that Ialways end up dying without enough money on me for reincarnation so I end up permanantly dead :huh: last time this happened I just created lots of new characters, transfered the gold to my main person and deleting the characters until I had enough money, I did this once before getting bored when he died again.
Well it ain't an easy game, especially in the early stages, best is to start with a fighter with high strength for your first character...
You made sure a hard way of reviving your character.... If you want to cheat there are easier ways you know, you could just 've used an editor.... :)
FreeFreddy
12-10-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Nosam@Oct 12 2004, 01:08 AM
I loved Lands of Lore.......those were the days! Throne of Chaos(the first one) was the best one in my opinion.
Part II is also pretty good. Especially the digital (not midi) music there is sometimes awesome, especially at later levels, when you enter those icy mountains (don't remember the name now), the place that looks like an alien UFO fortress (great music there :D ) and Belial's Living Place.
Though I still have to play the third part and buy it at E-Bay. :P
Stroggy
12-10-2004, 02:55 PM
I think the music was, as always made by frank klepacki
perhaps you can listen to a few tunes on his website: http://www.frankklepacki.com
FreeFreddy
12-10-2004, 03:00 PM
Not bad, the music there... ;)
Fawfulhasfury
12-10-2004, 03:13 PM
call me crazy
but
paper mario 1 and 2
super mario rpg
mario and luigi superstar saga
aaberg
12-10-2004, 05:43 PM
I don't know why, but I played "Might & Magic VII - Blood and Honor" a lot, and liked it very much. I have played some of the other Might & Magic games, and I have hated them!! But number 7 I liked. :huh: :D
aaberg
12-10-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Fawfulhasfury@Oct 12 2004, 03:13 PM
call me crazy
but
paper mario 1 and 2
super mario rpg
mario and luigi superstar saga
You are crazy :P
Iron_Scarecrow
12-10-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Jumjalum@Oct 11 2004, 03:56 PM
It's also huge, but not as huge as it's sequel Baldur's Gate II.
Oh that game gave me the shits. I played act 2 for 2 weeks until I forgot what the story was about or where I was meant to go. That game is just way to big to play. I'm not really fond of RPG's and out of all the ones I've tried (both baldurs gates, both diablos, morrowind, never winter nights, KotOR and dungeon seige), I have only finished dungeon seige and KotOR. But not 100% either kind of rushed through them.
Havell
12-10-2004, 06:12 PM
I have Lands Of Lore III, is it abandoned? Because I would be happy to upload it if it is.
FreeFreddy
12-10-2004, 07:53 PM
Even if it is (it's still little new), it's surely very large. At least 2 CD's surely. The largest size of the game's archive allowed to be uploaded here is at 30 MB. Sometimes the games can be little larger if they deserve it, but this one is by far much too big. :(
wormpaul
13-10-2004, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Oct 12 2004, 07:53 PM
Even if it is (it's still little new), it's surely very large. At least 2 CD's surely. The largest size of the game's archive allowed to be uploaded here is at 30 MB. Sometimes the games can be little larger if they deserve it, but this one is by far much too big. :(
Indeed...
And the game isn`t that good (IMO) to deserve such a huge space on the site :twisted:
I loved lands of lore 2 :) best rpg ever imho
LoL 3 was not as good though :x
and I think it was like 5 cd's, but im not sure.
Stroggy
13-10-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Oct 12 2004, 03:00 PM
Not bad, the music there... ;)
It has the music featured in all C&C games.
FreeFreddy
13-10-2004, 05:25 PM
And even 1 from Legend of Kyrandia and 3 from Lands of Lore 1. :D
The Cave - Lands of Lore 1
Chase - Lands of Lore 1
The Keep - Lands of Lore 1
Cavern - Kyrandia 1
Stroggy
13-10-2004, 06:29 PM
and coral hipness from Kyrandia 3
Braindead
13-10-2004, 06:40 PM
I wouldn't qualify Legend Of Kyrandia as an RPG though, it has way too much adventure elements for that...
FreeFreddy
13-10-2004, 08:05 PM
But it's true fantasy. And I love the music in it just as I love all the music from Westwood Studio's fantasy games.
Say, are you sure Lands of Lore 3 is worse then the second part? :huh:
humbaba
15-10-2004, 04:23 AM
This is a tough one. There are so many good ones through the years.
Sadly I've played most of them.
Ultima 5,6,7, Savage Empire
Wizardry (what got me hooked on pc games)
Wizardry 4(playing from the bad guy's point of view)
Wizardry 8 (its still fairly new and state of the art, not sure why it got no press)
Betrayal at Krondor was brilliant
Baldur's Gate 2 was an immense game and nice to play online with buddies.
Buck Rodgers (This was my favorite gold box game, underated)
Everquest (I was really hooked)
I probably have more but noticed there is an adventure game list. I'll have to check it out.
Blind Ryan
15-10-2004, 08:05 AM
If we're talking old then Quest for Glory is my fav (I know TEHNICALLY it's an adventure) and if we're talking newer then I say Ultima Online
Braindead
15-10-2004, 08:50 PM
I think it's strange Final Fantasy hasn't been mentioned yet. I personally prefer Chrono Trigger above the Final Fantasy saga but Final Fantasy is certainly a worthy second place.
Also who doesn't love Heroes Of Might And Magic? Does it qualify as an RPG, well maybe it doesn't as play is limited...
And what about Jagged Alliance, a great mixture of Roleplay and tactical combat!
.... :)
TheVoid
15-10-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Braindead@Oct 15 2004, 09:50 PM
I personally prefer Chrono Trigger
High five there :ok:
It's Awesome!
Stroggy
15-10-2004, 11:03 PM
Well I've been playing Fable which is quite enjoyable...
but I don't think i'll lable it as The Best until i've bought and played Baldurs Gate II
FreeFreddy
16-10-2004, 06:31 AM
Baldur's Gate II + Addon is the unbeaten champion of 2D-RPG's for me. So many options, so many items, so many monsters / NPC's - I could go on. Sadly Neverwinter Nights doesn't even come close to it... :rolleyes:
Stroggy
16-10-2004, 09:06 AM
Neverwinter Nights is a disgrace!
(i'm talking about the new 3d one... there is also an old old 2d game called Neverwinter Nights)
I bought it after I was overwhelmed by Knights of the Old Republic.
Characters were dull and static with NO depth
quests were linear and just no fun whatsoever (and the NWN-fans laugh at morrowind for its 'shallow' quests :blink: )
Locations were all the same (very few different tilesets)
and the main quest was just plain boring.
I know i've said this before, but I feel the need to press this issue: NWN is an average dungeonhack at best!
Iron_Scarecrow
16-10-2004, 05:41 PM
What about Morrorwind: Elder Scrolls 3. I had that for about a week. I liked it, or what I played of it. Excellent graphics.
Stroggy
16-10-2004, 06:53 PM
Morrowind is a great game (and an even greater game thanks to the mods)
but its too static.
They sacrificed dynamicness for scale.
Meaning that the game has A LOT of towns and cities... but nothing ever happens there and the people keep walking the same track over and over.
Good thing there are mods that now add travelling merchants, and adds random citizens in town by day, and decreases it by night (and does exactly the opposite for taverns indoor)
But all in all most quests are the same old thing.
The Bloodmoon expansion pack was good because its quests where diverse (not just dungeon romps)
plus both mainquests in Bloodmoon could be played from two different sides (good and evil)
Havell
16-10-2004, 09:11 PM
I have to say I was addicted to Morrowind for ages, then I lost the CD :cry: but I don't think NWN is that bad, perhaps it's not as deep as some games but it has exellent combat and some inspired ideas for quests (like the village trapped in time).
Jumjalum
16-10-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by R Havell@Oct 16 2004, 09:11 PM
I have to say I was addicted to Morrowind for ages, then I lost the CD :cry: but I don't think NWN is that bad, perhaps it's not as deep as some games but it has exellent combat and some inspired ideas for quests (like the village trapped in time).
The trapped in time village was the most clever thing in the whole of NWN. It's widely agreed that the original campaign for NWN was a bit poor, even if the multiplayer was always good. Much better is the expansion Hordes of the Underdark, which has a very good single player campaign.
Yamcha
16-10-2004, 09:20 PM
Have anyone heard of Hexplore??I was 9 years when i played this game:))It was in a magazine (full version)But i didn't make a copy:(((And now I'm searching the Full Version
Stroggy
16-10-2004, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Jumjalum+Oct 16 2004, 09:18 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jumjalum @ Oct 16 2004, 09:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-R Havell@Oct 16 2004, 09:11 PM
I have to say I was addicted to Morrowind for ages, then I lost the CD :cry:* but I don't think NWN is that bad, perhaps it's not as deep as some games but it has exellent combat and some inspired ideas for quests (like the village trapped in time).
The trapped in time village was the most clever thing in the whole of NWN. It's widely agreed that the original campaign for NWN was a bit poor, even if the multiplayer was always good. Much better is the expansion Hordes of the Underdark, which has a very good single player campaign. [/b][/quote]
I agree that was one quest that was really quite clever.
However that was still just one good quest in a whole sea of boring quests.
I've often heard Hordes of the Underdark has a better story... but how?
Is it just better told, does it contain a ncie plottwist, are the characters more fleshed out?
I'm going to cut back on spending money on games (I kinda overdid it these last few months... mostly to get my mind off of the miserable situation I'm in now)
which means I'm only going to buy games that I know for sure I'll enjoy.
Oh and next time i'm in the city I'll remember to buy Baldurs Gate II (Baldurs gate II is 'shadows of Amn", right?)
Iron_Scarecrow
17-10-2004, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Stroggy@Oct 16 2004, 09:31 PM
Oh and next time i'm in the city I'll remember to buy Baldurs Gate II (Baldurs gate II is 'shadows of Amn", right?)
That is correct. :Brain:
And a warning it is a very time consuming game. I read somewhere it would take about 60 hours to complete the story without doing any sidequests, but you would most likely have to do sidequests for extra money and experience. I gave up halfway through the second part. :wall: Now I dont know where my CD's went and I'm dying to play it. :ranting:
Stroggy
17-10-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow+Oct 17 2004, 07:33 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Iron_Scarecrow @ Oct 17 2004, 07:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Stroggy@Oct 16 2004, 09:31 PM
Oh and next time i'm in the city I'll remember to buy Baldurs Gate II (Baldurs gate II is 'shadows of Amn", right?)
That is correct. :Brain:
And a warning it is a very time consuming game. I read somewhere it would take about 60 hours to complete the story without doing any sidequests, but you would most likely have to do sidequests for extra money and experience. I gave up halfway through the second part. :wall: Now I dont know where my CD's went and I'm dying to play it. :ranting: [/b][/quote]
I know how you feel.
Make a search for posts about 'Planescape Torment' under my name and you'll see I've played halfway through the game three times already, but always uninstalled it after that...
and now that I WANT to play it... I can't find one of the CDs.
I believe most RPG gamers concider Planescape Torment as good as Baldurs Gate 1 and 2.
I don't know about Baldurs Gate, but Planescape Torment was pretty twisted.
It was ofcoarse very strange that you couldn't die... and in fact sometimes you HAD to die to escape from places.
And one part the character slits open his stumach and starts rummaging through it... very odd.
I played it till I became a member of the Festive Hall (or whatever its called)
'Birth of an Alleyway' was extremely strange
Iron_Scarecrow
17-10-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Stroggy@Oct 17 2004, 08:47 AM
And one part the character slits open his stumach and starts rummaging through it... very odd.
Sounds cool :D :kiddi:
TheVoid
17-10-2004, 12:53 PM
It is :D
I LOVED this game, it features a deepness I had never seen before.....
And the plot was so intriguing, and the dialogues were literature....only thing that bit disappointed me was the ending......just because I DIDN'T want the game to end! :cry:
Talking of "odd" features, there's a whole bunch of!
First of all, you can rip your eyeball and replace it with another used from a precedent incarnation of you (that somehow remembers what has seen that time), then you can be tatooed and, well, "share" your tatoos with your allies -maybe ripping them off your skin and gluing them into another's, I didn't want to investigate-also, although being a rotten carcass, you could eventually make two hot girls fall in love with you, and sell your friends as slaves......this game is such an experience. :)
The Niles
17-10-2004, 12:56 PM
Baldur's Gate 2 is the best RPG as far as I'm concerned. It has it all and better yet in all the right quantaties. I'm looking foreward to part 3.
Jumjalum
17-10-2004, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Stroggy@Oct 16 2004, 09:31 PM
I've often heard Hordes of the Underdark has a better story... but how?
Is it just better told, does it contain a ncie plottwist, are the characters more fleshed out?
It's a more interesting story just because the premise is that a load of monsters from the Underdark are attacking a city so you have to go down to find out whats going on, which beats the opening of NWN. It gets rid of the 'We need 4 objects from these 4 different areas' style quests which were a very tiresome part of NWN. There are in-engine cutscenes now which are quite cinematic and tell the story much better. The dungeons are more interesting, the plot is more interesting, the new prestige classes are pretty cool, you can have 2 henchmen instead of just one and you can give them more complex instructions about using spells, attacking etc. The henchmen are more fleshed out, and often cut in on conversations or start talking to you and if you like romances then there is at least one for men and one for women. There is a pretty cool plot twist, and there might be more since I haven't quite finished the last act yet. Overall HotU is worthwhile even if you didn't like the original campaign.
Havell
17-10-2004, 09:48 PM
All this talk of Planescape Torment has caused me to dig it up again and I now think this to be the best RPG. There is very little comnbat within the game, there dialogue and writing is impeccable, every person you speak to has a different set of dialogue options and some of the scenery is breathtaking.
TheVoid
17-10-2004, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by R Havell@Oct 17 2004, 10:48 PM
All this talk of Planescape Torment has caused me to dig it up again and I now think this to be the best RPG. There is very little comnbat within the game, there dialogue and writing is impeccable, every person you speak to has a different set of dialogue options and some of the scenery is breathtaking.
And I completely agree with that. :cheers:
Two thumbs up for Planescape Torment!!!
Stroggy
18-10-2004, 02:44 PM
damnit
now I'm getting frustrated about it again
WHERE IS CD3!?
I'm sure my cleaninglady hid it in some other cd-case
Mad-E-Fact
27-10-2004, 02:51 PM
For me the best RPGs of all times are the old ones, out of nostalgia, although newer ones surpass them in many ways. Namely that's Ultima 6, as I spent hours and days just to make this game run on my Amiga (one of the disks had an error, couldn't find a replacement copy, took me long until I actually find out that LB wants to know something from the manual as a copy protection, etc...). And as second the AD&D RPGs from SSI, especially Pools Of Darkness. The other SSI games were mainly crap, but I loved them anyway. :D
theres one game not mentioned here: FALLOUT!! ive got Fallout 1 and 2 and played the baldurs gate pc games and fallout clearly beats baldurs gate (IMO)
the best console rpg was chrono trigger as well (snes had all of the best console rpgs)
Razor2
30-10-2004, 07:19 AM
Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 + expansion
Best RPG ever made, closely followed by Fallout 2 (the first was a bit short andd too linear)
Also one of the bests is Arcanum, made by the guys who made Fallout. The idea of combining guns and magic is reallly cool.
Havell
30-10-2004, 02:00 PM
I too liked Arcanum, the combination of Magic and Science was a briliant idea, as were some of the issues this brought up, Such as the rivalry between the two but the game itself sometimes was lacking as I was often left wondering where to go next and a lot of the places in the cities all look the same (which is realiztic but still hard to find your way around).
BlackMageJawa
30-10-2004, 03:14 PM
Neverwinter Nights is my favourite. Although it does have some downsides compared to the other greats (Fallout, Baldur's Gate), the huge masses of fanmade content (especially that by Stefan Gagne) gives it the edge for me.
And if we're counting Console RPGs, then my fave is Star Ocean: The Second Story is easily my favourite, followed by Final Fantasy VI, then Star Ocean 1, then FFIX.
Fenris
30-10-2004, 03:26 PM
Icewind Dale II is also a very good Roleplaying game. It may not have such a great story as Baldur's Gate but the atmosphere is brilliant.
MasterP
31-10-2004, 02:00 AM
All the Bioware infinity engine games are brilliant.
Baldur's gate 1 was my first PC RPG. Was excellent in it's own right, but was really great because of what it established, and left open for the second installment.
Baldur’s gate 2:SoA is my all-time favorite game. I must have wasted hours playing this in 2000-2001. Huge world - really, REALLY good voice acting and characters. It's excellent to have npc's that aren't generic like in Morrowind, for example. The gameplay was great, it was just pure fun to experience the different classes, and quests, as well as finishing a really challenging battle, which was immensely satisfying in it's own right. I think the last time I played this game I went from BG1 with a character right up to finishing Throne of Bhaal, finishing every quest I could find. Took me about a month of playing for 5+ hours a day(I really didn't have much to do in those days:max:.) The expansion, throne of Bhall, was also great and lengthy enough to be considered so, for an expansion. All in all, I LOVE this game. :ok:
Planescape:Torment was awesome in a sense that it was very much an individual amongst its counterparts. The setting allowed for a lot of weird and wonderful things to explore and experience. The story in this game was half of it's appeal, there was a lot less fighting and a lot more dialogue, which may or may not appeal to those of different temperament, but I personally loved it. Characters had their own dramatic back-stories, and the game focused on this storybook element in length. And while you did have less freedom with the protagonist (referred to as "the nameless one"), it still sucked you in on a personal level, really feeling for these characters. The game seems shorter than BG1 & 2, but it still is a worthwhile experience. Definitely one of the best stories in a game, ever. Check it out if you get the chance. :)
The Icewind Dale series is good fun also, if not as good as BG1&2.
I agree that NWN had it's problems. It was enjoyable and had some good aspects, but there still needs alot of work to be done for what they truley wanted to achieve with that game.
I still havent played KOTOR(I know, I know), I should probably be able to buy it for less now anyway, so I'll see before X-mas pops around.
Morrowind is alright. I really didn't see the long lasting appeal though. I disliked the characters and dialogue system in the game, I didn't feel sucked in enough to play it. I also thought the enviroments didn't differ enough from each other (like NWN also). But that's the issue about restricting tilesets.
As for Final Fantasy, well I'm not too big on the Eastern turn-based styles. Too slow and repetitive for my tastes. Strangley enough, I've only completed Final Fantasy 1 (yes, the NES original). I can play them, but It's choosing a toyota over a Ferrari (to some lesser extent)
FreeFreddy
31-10-2004, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by MasterP@Oct 31 2004, 04:00 AM
Planescape:Torment was awesome in a sense that it was very much an individual amongst its counterparts. The setting allowed for a lot of weird and wonderful things to explore and experience. The story in this game was half of it's appeal, there was a lot less fighting and a lot more dialogue, which may or may not appeal to those of different temperament, but I personally loved it. Characters had their own dramatic back-stories, and the game focused on this storybook element in length. And while you did have less freedom with the protagonist (referred to as "the nameless one"), it still sucked you in on a personal level, really feeling for these characters. The game seems shorter than BG1 & 2, but it still is a worthwhile experience. Definitely one of the best stories in a game, ever. Check it out if you get the chance. :)
It's just very bad there was no sequel. I really would love to know how, when and where the Nameless and Fall-from-grace would meet again, it was just really disappointing that their love story ended with the game... :cry:
All in all, the game had such a great, tragic story I rarely saw in other games.
Fenris
31-10-2004, 08:15 AM
The ending of Planescape Torment doesn't really allow a sequel. I don't think that a mortal would survive very long in the blood war.
FreeFreddy
31-10-2004, 12:22 PM
But if he would... ;)
Fenris
31-10-2004, 02:17 PM
Well, I would love a sequel as long as it would follow the good old ways of 2D and not like NWN. It is a shame that nowadays good graphics are more important then a well told story in with deep atmosphere. Original games with a depth like Planescape are rare and in think it even beats both Baldur's Gate games. It is of unique quality.
Captivus
31-10-2004, 05:04 PM
Well I think that the best RPG of all time was Planescape - great plot, nice characters and intresting world. I've played it 10 - 12 times and there's stil much I haven't done ....
FreeFreddy
01-11-2004, 06:27 AM
It's just like Baldur's Gate II - you can play it several times and still find everytime some new things you didn't notice before. Aye, it's a pity that the Infinity engine won't be used anymore and those games are past now... :cry:
MasterP
01-11-2004, 08:41 AM
Yeah, I really hope they can manage to capture that unique spirit in other RPG's down the track.
But for now, you can still savor the classics.
rjpogi
02-11-2004, 03:38 PM
Final Fantasy 7 is the best console RPG i ever played, great visuals at that time and has one of the best story, NeverwinterNights is the best RPG for the PC, it got epic material, from story to music, got addicted to it :ok:
Iron_Scarecrow
07-11-2004, 12:01 PM
Has anyone heard of Grom or played it. I saw it in a shop once and it looked quite intersting. Then I saw some screenshots a couple of days ago, and now I really want it. But I'd like to know if it's worth it from people who have played it.
baldur's gate 1 and 2
fallout series
-King Of Dragon Pass-
Sadly,
propably none of you have ever heard of it.
But still,
It´s the closest you can get to a Pen & Paper Rpg,
And the best one,
when it comes down to computer rpg;s
Maikel
08-11-2004, 02:49 PM
Eye of the Beholder 2
Final Fantasy 3 ( 6 ) --> Truly awesome
Stonekeep ( Not the BEST, but awesome back them)
Morrowind because of the freedom.
Milos
08-11-2004, 09:08 PM
Fallout 1 & 2
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2
Morriwind with all exp's
Gothic 2
Arcanum
Star wars:kotor
But baldur's gate and fallout rules :kosta: :kosta: :kosta:
Milos
08-11-2004, 09:11 PM
Has anyone played unofficial expansion(mod) for Baldur's gate 2:the darkest day.
It has dozen of new classes(about 50) and hundreds of new weapons,monsters,quests,events....
400MB
FreeFreddy
08-11-2004, 09:24 PM
I thought about trying it out, but decided to leave it be. Too many new things, especially characters, and I like the original game. So I didn't want to use a mod that could be almost as good as the game itself.
Milos
08-11-2004, 09:29 PM
The truth is the mod is a little spoiling, and i spent few hours making a character(to mani choices).
But I would't played it if i didn't finished game 4 times. :Titan:
Originally posted by Milos@Nov 8 2004, 10:08 PM
Fallout 1 & 2
Baldur's Gate 1 & 2
Morriwind with all exp's
Gothic 2
Arcanum
Star wars:kotor
But baldur's gate and fallout rules :kosta: :kosta: :kosta:
a fellow fallout fan :D nice to know that some people know of it, ive completed 1 and im playing 2 at the moment.
Milos
08-11-2004, 09:44 PM
A lot of people knows the fallout.
Both fallouts are execelent,but if you play 1 the 1 is better and if you play 2 th 2 is better.Than it could be said that they are equal :ok:
Try baldurs gate 1 and 2 it is made by same company who made fallouts
i know about the link (Black Isle Studios) and if i can get hold of them, i'll try BG 1 & 2 :)
Milos
08-11-2004, 09:53 PM
Smart people make wise choices :ok:
but i doubt there will be FO3 for ages as interplay took over BIS and at the moment, interplay are in deep trouble financially and the FO3 license is in the hands of bethesda (Elder scrolls III: Morrowind)
Milos
08-11-2004, 10:06 PM
That is true, I was reading on internet that Feargus Urkhart(director Fallout 1,2) separated from black isle and hi is continuing the work on fallout 3.
From screenshots fallout 3 looks very nice, but story and game play was my favorite in 1,2 so i hope that will be the same.Now it is 3D
Unknown Hero
08-11-2004, 10:44 PM
Well...My favourite RPG's would be:
Fallout 2 of course and not so world wide known Silver.
About Fallout 3....are you sure it will ever come out? :unsure:
Milos
08-11-2004, 10:47 PM
It should come out but date is unknown (probably next year).
Silver is a cool game but graphics is lame :crazy: :D
Unknown Hero
08-11-2004, 10:50 PM
Where did you hear that fallout will come next year! :drool:
:ot:
Milos
08-11-2004, 10:55 PM
I didnt heard, but it is logical since they are making it since fallout 2
Unknown Hero
08-11-2004, 11:10 PM
I was logical two years ago that it will come out next year, but still nothing! :not_ok:
Milos
08-11-2004, 11:20 PM
I understand you, but if you don't wait for it, it will come when you at least suspecting
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