Peta Vid

[TheGiantMidgit]

the show is "bullshit". It is informative, entertaining, and very profane.

a shortened episode on the subject of PETA (http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1136361024/Penn_and_Teller_-_PETA)

[SirPeter]

I dont care if PETA sends money to that Rodney guy.
I dont care if ppl die becaurse some medicine wasn't researched on animals. Test it on humans if its that important.
Nothing wrong with being against animal cruelty. I hate it though when PETA makes it a left hippy thing with their protests in hippy cloths.

[TheGiantMidgit]

Oh, I hate animal cruelty as well, I just hate the methods PETA utilizes (that, and alot of their hypocritical stuff). There are better ways to attain worthwhile goals than firebombing things.

[SirPeter]

Bombing stuff isn't that bad :P
I always hope they will sink whaling ships with the full crew on it on mid sea. That would be fun. Also I hope they will get something organised in Afrika to hunt and kill pochers :)
Extreme maybe but hell I dont care if those people with no conscience or no feelings die.

[TheGiantMidgit]

...but, um, isn't blowing people with "no conscience" up basically displaying a lack of moral conscience?

[SirPeter]

Well they dont have any (moral) conscience so why should I have any moral conscience for them. I dont want to see inocent creatures die without any moral reasons whatsoever.
Plus I dont care :D

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by SirPeter@Jan 11 2006, 03:19 AM
Plus I dont care :D
You sorry hypocrite.

Well they dont have any (moral) conscience so why should I have any moral conscience for them.
Do animals have "moral conscience"?
I dont want to see inocent creatures die without any moral reasons whatsoever.
I'm curious what "moral" and "non-moral" reasons are...

As for the vid: Just shows how estranged from the real world those PETA-nutjobs are... one of my ex-gfs was with that club... showed she never thought so far as what the result of "total animal liberation" would be... not to mention that she worked in a medical lab... :wall:

But I really despised this "holocaust"-campaign... PETA made it look like the Nazis had been doing something bad... :tomato:





















(Just kidding, but I couldn't let THIS one slip :bleh: ;) )

[omg]

Originally posted by TheGiantMidgit@Jan 11 2006, 02:09 AM
...but, um, isn't blowing people with "no conscience" up basically displaying a lack of moral conscience?
when people of an arabic background do it its called terrorism innit.

[SirPeter]

Then its also terrorisme to lock up animals just for food. Its all a matter of perception.
Im not a hypocrite Chuck. That statement was based on nothing.

And Chuck you probably think that animals dont have feelings do you. Animals act out of instinct(sp) humans have lost most of its instinct and have more brainpower (well some of us though).

[Toxik]

Originally posted by SirPeter@Jan 11 2006, 05:11 PM
Then its also terrorisme to lock up animals just for food. Its all a matter of perception.




Animals kill animals for food.We are technically animals,so whats the point?I agree that animals shouldnt be used for testing commercial products though.


SirPeter
"I dont care if ppl die becaurse some medicine wasn't researched on animals. Test it on humans if its that important"

Its about survival of species,its basicly the only thing animals do-theyre surviving.Humans do the same thing,only in different ways.

[SirPeter]

Ok lets kill off all animals ans see how far we will get with the servival of the species thing.
We are smarter and we can think and 'see' more clearly things then they. We can make choices, that makes us responsible.

[Chuck the plant]

Well, as you said yourself, killing all animals (which is not a thing anyone wants to do, ridiculing your statement already) wouldn't help in the survival of our species. So that arguement ist kinda contradicting itself.

And yes, if you claim that it's ok to kill someone who killed you ARE a hypocrite. Wanna know why? Well, just think this circle through and maybe you'll get an idea...
BTW: ever had the idea that most people don't kill animals because they're sadistic bastards, but because they have to make a living, earn some money, mabye a family to take care of? You know, there's only so much money you can make with tofu...
Oh, and another, purely hypothetical question: What would you say if an increase in meat-production worldwide would be capable of ending hunger and starvation in the third world? Would you still rather free the animals and let them people keep on starving?

P.S.: "Total Animal Liberation" is a fine thing... I always wanted my city to look like New Dehli...

[SirPeter]

First comment was ment sarcastic.

About all hunger in the world: You only see animals as meat when you state it like that. Whats wrong with increasing non-meat products in 3rd world countries.

Btw I heard an interesting thing about Tofu. Its made in amazone areas were trees are being removed for the Tofu fields. So f*ck Tofu. :P

*edit
Ow and there are other means of making money and feeding your family without having to kill animals.

[omg]

Originally posted by SirPeter@Jan 11 2006, 03:11 PM
Then its also terrorisme to lock up animals just for food. Its all a matter of perception.

the perception being that animals are humans... or the perception being that they are our equals? check those incisors (unless you are a total animal loving crazy veggie and have had them removed) funnily enuff we evolved them so we could eat meat, under the laws of nature, we eat meat. if you make the choice not to eat meat then fine. is your choice. a bit unatural though.
put all of peta alone in a room with a hungry tiger. put a gun in the other end of the room. see how long untill the gun is reached for and if any of the peta get eaten first. would be a well interesting experiment.

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by SirPeter@Jan 11 2006, 08:07 PM
Ow and there are other means of making money and feeding your family without having to kill animals.
Only so much. And believe it or not: Meat processing IS a large industry. There's unemployment in every nation already. Without this industry, there will be even more. Especially in the costal regions of most nations, people are simply reliant on things like fishing. In the rural areas, it's lifestock and harvesting. Simply because there isn't much of anything else. No industry, no nothing. You think endangering the life of people that aren't even cause of the problem will change anything about that?

Whats wrong with increasing non-meat products in 3rd world countries.
There's certainly nothing "wrong" with it. It's just even more unlikely to happen. Didn't even happen HERE so far. BTW: Meat is a valuable part of human diet, already because of the proteins. Think about it: Would we have (albeit atrophied) FANGS if we weren't supposed to be eating meat? Would the human body be able to digest it? You know what happened to cows which were made to eat meat, which is a thing they are NOT supposed to do?
Oh, and please don't come up with fish, because that's also an animal which would be killed. Eggs, milk, cheese etc, are out of question as well, because in order to supply even a small part of the world's population with these there would still be need for massed animal farming.
Its made in amazone areas were trees are being removed for the Tofu fields. So f*ck Tofu. :P
Which leaves us with exactly WHICH variety of possible things to eat? Please consider the obvious limitations above.

[omg]

hey lets eat humans! :D
maybe thats what the upper echelon of peta members are doing with that 10ft square freezer :whistle:


sweet site midget :ok:

[Toxik]

Originally posted by omg@Jan 11 2006, 09:37 PM
hey lets eat humans! :D


Yea! Eating humans proved to be succesful method of getting much needed nutrition in cases of famine-there are always supplies of human meat.

[The Niles]

This has gone far enough.

We of abandonia do not condone the call to or support of violence.