Computer Chip

[ReamusLQ]

Would you do this? (http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/01/09/chip.implants.reut/index.html)

I sure as heck know I would! I think it sounds so cool!

And cheap too, not over priced like most new techonology things are.

[Sebatianos]

Seen Logan's Run lately? IF not I suggest you watch it - great movie. It warned about this sort of thing long before an average mortal would even know what a chip is :sneaky:

[Quintopotere]

RFID chips could be useful to control (with a GPS) where your children (or your girlfriend) go!
I'm not so interested in opening doors or logging to my PC...

[ReamusLQ]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Jan 10 2006, 08:25 AM
Seen Logan's Run lately? IF not I suggest you watch it - great movie. It warned about this sort of thing long before an average mortal would even know what a chip is :sneaky:
Yeah I've seen it.

"Look! It's turned clear!" <laughter in Logan's general direction> "No, it has! Look!"

It also had that really crazy Cat guy who quoted the Cat poems.

[WaAn]

It's just a gadget. Not useful. But maybe, if they add some more useful things...

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Not yet I wouldn't. Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to create a portable reader that would grab data off of other people's chips without their knowledge - when you shook hands with them, maybe. Once you've got the data, it couldn't be too hard to duplicate the operation of the chip, and hey, you're in someone else's house/car/computer/etc. That's my biggest concern. If it's taken care of, yeah, I'd consider it.

EDIT: Typo

[omg]

1 step closer to sci fi land.
wont be long untill people really are chopping peoples hands off to get acsess to doors.

cool :ok:

[Sebatianos]

Well, all I can really say about this is the following:
The use of inventions to help people's lives is a common thing. That's what seperated humans from animal in the first place (inventing fire, weapons, cloathing, wheel,...) so with inventions we are mastering the world we couldn't at our current evolutionary level (we are speeding up evolution with technology). Is this good? Is this right? I don't know, but people have been doing this for ages.

But so the inventions used were more or less easily controlable and the user was the master of the things he used. Now, you're not anymore. Now you're using inventions to make using inventions (that are making your life easier) simpler. So you'd use this chip to make access to computers that you can use to do something with something. Soon people (at least the majority) will not even be able to function without a certain chip (and it's at that point that the world could turn into THE MATRIX).

[gregor]

personally i would like to see the chip that makes the blind see again come in to life.

They already did experiments and so far they managed to connect the chip with vision, so you could see smth but still very blurry and very bad. but hey they (theblind) saw something moving. it was made in such a way that chip was installed in the brain and connected to visual nerve. while you had data transmitted to it via optic fiber connected to special glasses which actually held a very tiny camera. was preety cool on pictures.

unfortunatelly the blind can't recognise anything (yet). the picture they were receiving wasn't clear enough.

Edit: using inventions to improve your self is "cheating" the evolotion law. which is cool. makes us different from animals.

[Chuck the plant]

Just like omg said: Stuff like this won't make ones life much safer because you can't have your keys or bank cards stolen anymore... it'll only become more likely that you get your hand cut off or your eye cut out so the robber can still do the same.

And if that's not reason enough: No, I won't play into anyone's hands and make it even easier for "them" to track my every step and virtually know EVERYTHING about me. I just ain't sci-fi-geek enough for that kind of stuff... and I don't really find it THAT bothersome to have my keys and cards with me... :rolleyes:

[Sebatianos]

Well, that's just a way to help poeple who lack something (it's like making an artificial leg for someone who lost his own). Those used to be wooden legs (like you see pirates in movies have), btu became very suffisticated - eye chips would be very suffisticated implant giving vision. That would be a good thing in itself (like glasses were when they were invented and are still widely used and very helpful), but that's a different point.

But giving people implants simple so they wouldn't have to think anymore (don't have to remember your passwords if you have an implant) is simply a step towards destroying the human intelect and becoming dependent on machines (the blind using the eye chip would also be depentent on a piece of machinery, but they'd be more dependent on other things without it).

[troop18546]

I'd put a chip that would make me the strongest or smartest being in the world. I don't need a, pardon the expression, F*CKING chip that opens my front door or turns on the pc for me. I got HANDS for that stuff...
Install a micro processor like HAL into my brain, then maybe I would be happy.

About the eye implant thingy:
good idea. I would use that one if they implanted a chip so that I could see like the predator. Now THAT would be cool.

[Kon-Tiki]

I really don't want such a thing in my body. If I want to open a door, I sure as hell'll just open it. If I forgot my keys, then I just should try to keep my thoughts at such things as well. Little aids like contact lenses, pacemakers, etc, are ok, but these things're not necessary. They'll just lazy people, or'll dull their minds.

[SirPeter]

Dont want it to. Its useless. But hey I didn't have a mobile 2 years ago either ;)

[Stebbi]

hmm this really is cheap but i dont feel the need of havin a chip in my hand right now............ as for gps tracker in your body.... i dont think that's a good idea...i mean that is expensive, and you got too have money if you do that.... so it would just be easier for the kidnappers to kidnapp you, because they can track you down and cut your arm of.......

[Yobor]

I'd wait for brain-interface functionality before getting the chips.

[Tulac]

RFID is a very dangerous technology...

[Yobor]

How so? I mean, of course anti-hacking would have to be a priority. But I think we should use retinal scanners more often than we do. Much more efficient that key-codes.

[Tulac]

Umm not that part, but any lack of privacy, totalitarian control, big brother...

[allyfaucet]

Cool stuff, I'd do it. Of course when it's less new and revolutionary, but I'm for it :ok:

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by Yobor@Jan 10 2006, 10:42 PM
But I think we should use retinal scanners more often than we do. Much more efficient that key-codes.
You've seen the "Judge Dreadd" movie? LOL

Or was it "Demolition Man"? :blink:

[Javaguy]

chip in hand- urgh no not for me I dont think

in brain AAH!
IMAGINE!
"MS brain has encountered a problem and needs to close. Please tell microsoft about this problem |send error report| |dont send|"

[Stebbi]

Originally posted by Javaguy@Jan 11 2006, 07:42 AM
chip in hand- urgh no not for me I dont think

in brain AAH!
IMAGINE!
"MS brain has encountered a problem and needs to close. Please tell microsoft about this problem |send error report| |dont send|"
LOL hehe

[Toxik]

Well,thats just another cool gizmo with absolutely no use,exactly like thousand other.

Im waiting for the memory enhance chip though-now that would be useful(at least for me-you know how horrible is to forget what youve been thinking about 15 secs ago?)

[omg]

lay off the dope man..
would be cool to take a day off work so you could defrag and virus check your brain.

[Javaguy]

maybe you could have an open source brain!
or would that mean your friends could cheat off it during exams :crazy:

as you can see, I usually spoil actual sensible discussions

[rlbell]

My problem with RFID chips is that they offer very little that you could not get from a fingerprint reader. Properly designed, the fingerprint reader could be incorporated into the doorlatch, so it is not obvious that it was my fingerprint that unlocked it. If I really cannot be bothered to remember passwords, I would rather use biometrics than RFID. Face recognition in the near infrared is very hard to spoof, and it can still recognize you if you restyle/remove/regrow hair. Because the temperature variations of the human face depend on the vaguaries of the environment of the placenta, even the faces of two genetically identical clones will differ. More importantly, it will not recognize a warmed over corpse. A single finger pad is too small, but the hand print should be large enough to show heat unique heat variations. At least, this is the impression I got from an episode of the australian popular science TV program, Beyond 2000.

[On topic digression]
Cows often have identical twins, but (in the case of holsteins) that just means that the two calves have the same amount of skin area that has the same coloration (black or white), so you will be hard pressed to spot the twins in a group of non-identical cattle.

In the US, the most unususal proponents of the implantable chips are christian splinter groups that see them as The Mark of The Beast. While it seems counterintuitive for these christians to endorse anything so obviously of The Beast, rapid adoption of the implantable chip, in their eyes, means that the endtimes predicted in the bible are upon us and the second coming of The Lord is at hand.

[gregor]

Originally posted by Javaguy@Jan 11 2006, 07:42 AM


in brain AAH!
IMAGINE!
"MS brain has encountered a problem and needs to close. Please tell microsoft about this problem |send error report| |dont send|"
well think of it like this if you went blind would you take the chip and see again or would you rather stay blind and miss Hlaf-life 3 :D

[Javaguy]

well think of it like this if you went blind would you take the chip and see again or would you rather stay blind and miss Hlaf-life 3*
depends if my chip was made by windows or not :blink:

[Bobbin Threadbare]

Perhaps if it became necessary. i have the same password for everthing (EVERYTHING!) so it don't bother me too much.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

i have the same password for everthing (EVERYTHING!)
Baaaad user! No admin rights for you!

[Yobor]

Yeah. I have the same password for everything too. Including my credit card. Wait, that was a joke.