Rockstarts New Game

[TheChosen]

Rockstar is making another new game. A game named "Bully"
This is a "school simulator" where you have to play as bully and tease everyone.

No further information.

What do you think?

[A. J. Raffles]

Bit of a sick idea, don't you think?

[Timpsi]

Originally posted by TheChosen@Oct 19 2005, 02:00 PM
Rockstar is making another new game. A game named "Bully"
This is a "school simulator" where you have to play as bully and tease everyone.

Actually, this may not be the idea of the game, as stated by the Rockstar people. They've repeatedly said that the game shouldn't be judged as unethical before it's released.

[Lonely Vazdru]

Sounds fun ! Not my idea of fun as i hate those life simulating/management games, but a nice change from the car wrecking, civilian shooting routine. :ph34r:

[Nikson]

Bully-age! awesome :D

[Gelfo]

Quite old news this one.

]Here's a news story on how everyone is against it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4135988.stm)

And here's the official site (http://www.rockstargames.com/bully/) (although there's nowt there atm)

According to rockstar, the name is misleading. You don't play a bully as such, more of a 'rebel'. Part of the story involves you stopping bullies.. but I guess other parts does involve bully-like activities. I read a preview of the game in some Playstation magazine a month or two ago

[Vinnyq12]

Be interesting if they take the approach where you bully someone and this shows the effect the amount of bullying has on the poor kid for the rest of their lives. Think that would open peoples eyes about the effect of bullying but this is just me thinking :wall: most of the time.

[efthimios]

I hate bullies and their activities. I never had a problem as a kid by one because, well, a number of reasons, but I was always against them.
If Rockstar wants to make such a game, let them, there is no chance I am going to buy it though.

[Vinnyq12]

im not a fan of bullies either but lets see what they produce with this idea. Lets not hang them let :D

[A. J. Raffles]

What do you think Rockstar will do if they ever end up producing an uncontroversial game by mistake?:D

[Galadrin]

"A Cats Life" The ultimate housecat simulator!

but there'd be unlockable scenes with a nasty litter-box cam... and the part where your owner leaves the window open over night and you escape, get into fights and do other... things :blink:

[Vinnyq12]

Originally posted by Galadrin@Oct 19 2005, 03:13 PM
"A Cats Life" The ultimate housecat simulator!

but there'd be unlockable scenes with a nasty litter-box cam... and the part where your owner leaves the window open over night and you escape, get into fights and do other... things :blink:
ehhhhhhh :blink:

[troop18546]

Game looks crap and I think will BE crap.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Originally posted by Vinnyq12@Oct 19 2005, 07:54 AM
Be interesting if they take the approach where you bully someone and this shows the effect the amount of bullying has on the poor kid for the rest of their lives.
:roflol: You realize this is Rockstar we're talking about, right?

[MdaG]

Originally posted by A. J. Raffles@Oct 19 2005, 11:10 AM
Bit of a sick idea, don't you think?
Yup. But not as sick as the whole concept of GTA...

[A. J. Raffles]

That game has a concept?:huh: I thought it was just about getting into the headlines for featuring violence and "mature" content. Or is that the concept of GTA, perhaps?

[MdaG]

Originally posted by A. J. Raffles@Oct 24 2005, 06:43 AM
That game has a concept?:huh: I thought it was just about getting into the headlines for featuring violence and "mature" content. Or is that the concept of GTA, perhaps?
I meant that it glorifies crime in a way I don't like. That aside, It's a good game though.

[plague]

I think that rockstar is really talented with making protective parents angry.

[punch999]

The game is fighting bullys and attacking mean abusive teachers. Fools read what thwe game is about not the losers who havent even played a rockstar game in their life

[MdaG]

Originally posted by punch999@Oct 24 2005, 04:37 PM
The game is fighting bullys and attacking mean abusive teachers. Fools read what thwe game is about not the losers who havent even played a rockstar game in their life
:blink: huh?

[PrejudiceSucks]

Either way, it's not a great idea for a game. It's got a pretty limited environment.

Hey kids - beat up teachers

Labour government - not bloody likely!

[Blood-Pigggy]

And how is that worse than GTA?

[Danny252]

Maybe because it involves children?
Maybe it'll involve weapons.. :twisted:

[Blood-Pigggy]

I don't care, all I give is that it's fun.

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by Blood-Pigggy@Oct 26 2005, 03:21 PM
And how is that worse than GTA?
Well, I can imagine people are more anxious because of the psychological violence involved in bullying. And maybe they're afraid that some children might use it as a how-to guide, because that sort of thing's a lot closer to their world than GTA...

But to be quite honest, I think this is just Rockstar's way of advertising their games: hint that there might be controversial material in the game and then lean back while people keep discussing it. Because obviously the worst that could happen to any company is that their games aren't noticed at all. Controversy is good, though; if nothing else it gets people talking. I'm sure they chose that screenshot for their press release very carefully.

[Blood-Pigggy]

Well, at least they're talented game developers.
The only time I won't play a game because of it's content is if they release some Nazi simulation game.

Unless you're shooting the Nazis of course.

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by Blood-Pigggy@Oct 26 2005, 03:38 PM
Well, at least they're talented game developers.
Nobody's disputing that, I think. But it's not exactly a very honourable method of advertising, is it?

[Blood-Pigggy]

Of course not, but it works.

[Danny252]

Originally posted by Blood-Pigggy@Oct 26 2005, 03:38 PM
The only time I won't play a game because of it's content is if they release some Nazi simulation game.

Unless you're shooting the Nazis of course.
Ker-QUOTE!
Ooh, it even fits...
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[Gelfo]

I think is a rather sensitive issue in the UK at the moment as bullying is still relatively high and school violence is on the up. Like that stabbing of that Luke boy last year. Quite a shock to the system..

[Mr.Snuggles]

:ot: Ok, What type of people would be stupid enough to even try to be like the games Rockstar made? I mean people have already done GTA....they even took guns to think that they are toys...!

[Shunk Eat Enemy]

okay first going arround and beating cops with dildos is bad now teaseing people in a game is just as bad?!? LOL

[rafazolli]

Ok, i´m just going to say the way i see it... rockstar games are big cause they´re extremely well designed and go according to the mass media culture in america (the rap/badboy/gangsta culture) ... look at they´re mtv videos , stuff like 50cent, eminem.... i don´t like... but it works for them... just look at how much design attention has gone into plotting the recent 5 fps shooters................ that says a lot about the current gaming industry doesn´t it. i´m not saying it´s bad (even if I think it is), but it´s a different mentality then when games like a mind forever voyaging, loom, civ 1, where being developed.

Not that a game needs a tome of a manual to be fun! it doesn´t, but that´s all it´s going to be: fun... not inspiring, cathartic.. even creatively exciting like loom was, or the first monkey island when it was released.

BUT, as i always say... that´s just my take on it...

i, for one, don´t like rockstar games... and YES i´ve played almost all of their releases, just not too much cause i don´t really see the point (besides being fun for half an hour for me), of doing a routine of robbing and killing....

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by rafazolli@Oct 29 2005, 02:27 PM
Ok, i´m just going to say the way i see it... rockstar games are big cause they´re extremely well designed and go according to the mass media culture in america (the rap/badboy/gangsta culture) ... look at they´re mtv videos , stuff like 50cent, eminem.... i don´t like... but it works for them...
Well, given that the most appreciated part of the "GTA"-series was set in the 80's and featured a "Scarface"/"Miami Vice"-chique, I'd say it's not just as easy as that... ;)

But to be fair, one's gotta admit that the "new" GTA games exceeded everything else Rockstar ever did by far in terms of play value and general quality... I hope "The Warriors" won't suck, though... but from what I've seen so far, it won't! :ok:

[Blood-Pigggy]

Originally posted by Chuck the plant+Oct 29 2005, 09:02 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chuck the plant @ Oct 29 2005, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-rafazolli@Oct 29 2005, 02:27 PM
Ok, i´m just going to say the way i see it... rockstar games are big cause they´re extremely well designed and go according to the mass media culture in america (the rap/badboy/gangsta culture) ... look at they´re mtv videos , stuff like 50cent, eminem.... i don´t like... but it works for them...
Well, given that the most appreciated part of the "GTA"-series was set in the 80's and featured a "Scarface"/"Miami Vice"-chique, I'd say it's not just as easy as that... ;)

But to be fair, one's gotta admit that the "new" GTA games exceeded everything else Rockstar ever did by far in terms of play value and general quality... I hope "The Warriors" won't suck, though... but from what I've seen so far, it won't! :ok: [/b][/quote]
This is pretty off-topic, but hasn't that game come out already?
Oh, and to ease your worries, it's a good game.

[moogle]

Heh....Rockstar sure likes so dtart trouble with their games....

[Godteri]

I think playing a game as an nazi would be kind of helpful to peoples views at why the Germans did such a thing, it was not something they did out of sheer spite, you know.
Not to say what they did was right or anything even related to right.

If we saw more games which interpreted both the European / American efforts, and the German efforts, instead of all those "Rambo" (Lets go kill some Ninjas/Nazis/ect.ect) themed games people would have a whole different opinion on everything happened.

Of course, this would have to be a more politically themed game, and it woulden't appeal to the general gamer.

If people saw what kind of sick people Hitlers henchmen were, there would be less sympathy for the Nazis than ever.

Well. Thats my own opinion at least.

[punch999]

A nazi game would get the censored in almost every contry and no one would sell it

[punch999]

School Violence is every where go to a average public school and just look around and see what you see

[Danny252]

Double post...

The thing is, the government(s) dont WANT people to know there is violence in public schools. They just want more money and votes...

[knails]

i don't like the idea. especialy as i'm still at secondry school and well i have been bullied before.
trust me it's not nice.

this is a game that will start things in school.
i've seen chavs grow up to get jailed for assaulting police.

these are the people that play such games so if "bully" comes out it will cause more bullying an worse bulying

so i say

*meep* YOU ROCKSTAR!!!

[Chuck the plant]

And I guess "Half-Life" is the kind of game that makes people run around and bashing other people's heads in with a crowbar... :whistle:

[Nikson]

I for one can't wait to virtually kick virtual wimps in the virtual stomach :D
One of the screenshots on the official site also show the character ready to throw a big red ball...
Yaaaay! Dodgeball! :D

[Doubler]

these are the people that play such games so if "bully" comes out it will cause more bullying an worse bulying Of course, another radicalized reaction to a game about bullying can be exactly the opposite.
Kids learning how to deal with it, bully's learning the effects, people getting more aware of what and how.
In the end, it could actually be a positive thing :P

Not that this is any more the case, though ;)


Oh, and if we're getting there where experience in these things matters. I've been bullied quite a bit, myself.

[knails]

sorry I know that this is :ot: but i just want chuck to know that half-life inspires people to defend themselves against evil zombies and aliens that are already killing others

but counter-strike i suppose is a different story. with all this be a terrorist, take hostages, set bombs, kill the police!

half life would never cause an uproar hear its seen as a nerdy game! and apparantly nerds can't do anything but maths, science, and games

[Nikson]

And with math, science and games they get so much money they can pay east-european homosexuals to give retribution to the bullies of their childhoods :D

[Chuck the plant]

@ knails: A little hint - most people are not really influenced by games at all. Those that already have lost one or more marbles may be getting some more weird ideas, but nobody in their right mind will start beating up soldiers with a crowbar (because yes, you DO fight against those in this game as well) because of Half-Life, become a terrorist because of CS, become a car-jacking, homicidal maniac because of GTA or a "bully" because of this game. Only the youngest of kids would actually be in danger to adopt some of the behaviours seen in games, but it's their f*ckin' parents' duty to have an eye on what their kids do anyway, it's not the GAMES INDUSTRY'S job. There's a reason for "ratings", and if parents don't care about them, it's their and nobody else's fault.