Vusual Studiio 6.0 Or Visual Studio .NET

[Nick]

Just as it says. What Studio do you prefer, why, what you dislike and so on. I choose VS 6.0. I can improve my choise by telling you, that many good programmers (such as NeHe, for example) are writing in VS 6.0.

EDIT: I forgot to say my dislikes in VS .NET, although they are quite simple: from the "script" design and to that damn compile log.
When you press F7, you loose focus from window, where you are writing the code, so to go on writing, you have to click on that window with mouse. :ranting:

[Kon-Tiki]

I prefer Dev-C++, even though it leaks memory. Seems like that's a problem with all IDEs, except the Visual Studio. If I had to choose between Visual Studio and Visual Studio .NET, I'd personally prefer Visual Studio, as I'm not all too fond of .NET. If it's for a job, though, I suppose you'd be better off with .NET, how sad it may be.

[Data]

uhm I've used both.
6.0 was quite fast (in startup and response)
.net created better code although it might be possible to use the compiler of .net with the ide of 6.0

In general I liked 6.0 better mainly because of the speed

[mik]

Hello, dear Nick! This is my first message here. wow... So, I think it isn't correct statement of the problem. I think that many things depend on habit. For example, I had written many (maybe more than 100) programmes in Visual Studio 6, but now I write new programmes only in Visual Studio .NET. Many people shrink from difficulties caused by something new. But, objective reality is Visual Studio .NET. You must be in step with life if you want become a professional programmer. (Nick call me)

[Nick]

Wow!!! At last! Glad to see you! :cheers:

[chickenman]

I gave Visual Studio 6.0 a try, it was rubbish the IDE was not bad but the compiler was. :sick:

Dev-cpp kicks behind.

or if you have Linux
G++ :w00t:

[Koen]

I seem to be sticking with the old VB6 forever. I heard they're developing a new VB now which is more like VB6, so probably I'll skip vb.net if that's true...

[Nick]

Yes. I heard something too. Something about Visual Studio 7.1... Well, let's hope it won't repeat "success" of VS .NET. Although, for somebody it was just success. Tastes differ. :)

[mik]

Latest versions of VS .NET:
VS 2005 Express Edition
VS 2005 Standart Edition
VS 2005 Team System
I have only VS 2005 Express Edition now. Latest versions of VS .NET programmes based on .NET Framework 2.0. I think that it's excellent product. So, don't stand still. VS 6.0 is good, but .NET platform is present and future.

[Data]

Originally posted by mik@Sep 13 2005, 05:55 AM
Latest versions of VS .NET:
VS 2005 Express Edition
VS 2005 Standart Edition
VS 2005 Team System
I have only VS 2005 Express Edition now. Latest versions of VS .NET programmes based on .NET Framework 2.0. I think that it's excellent product. So, don't stand still. VS 6.0 is good, but .NET platform is present and future.
that is what microsoft wants you to believe.

I think 6.0 is used a lot more then .net as nobody wants to pay the huge amount of money required to keep up with the latest and useless developments.

C++ standard is still the same. So for making code there is no need to switch.
However if you rely on the "handy" libraries for a gui of MS then you need to upgrade

If you use a different library for you gui then there is absolute no need to upgrade

[mik]

that is what microsoft wants you to believe.

I think 6.0 is used a lot more then .net as nobody wants to pay the huge amount of money required to keep up with the latest and useless developments.

C++ standard is still the same. So for making code there is no need to switch.
However if you rely on the "handy" libraries for a gui of MS then you need to upgrade

If you use a different library for you gui then there is absolute no need to upgrade



First, VS is not only VC++. Second, .NET is platform independent. .NET is a strategy of creating big distributed systems (like J2EE or CORBA). For example, try to create Web-services (it is very important for companies today, you know) using VS 6.0. I think it'll take VERY much time. As I said, using VS 6.0 is only habit. Many companies and programmers don't know about advantages of VS .NET. Of course, it's very expensive. Is it worth it? Yes, of course, if you are a professional.

[chickenman]

There is no advantages of using visual studio it's all rubbish and there is no point in paying money for rubbish. :)

[NrmMyth]

Originally posted by chickenman@Sep 13 2005, 12:38 PM
There is no advantages of using visual studio it's all rubbish and there is no point in paying money for rubbish. :)
:eeeeeh:

[Danny252]

dont worry. its only chickenman. he rants on about anything non-DevC++ or non-Linux (and then rants on about them)

[Kon-Tiki]

Yarr, Chicken, what'd I tell you 'bout such posts?

[punch999]

I use vbasic 6.0 but does anyone know I nice tutorial for that

[Koen]

k, the biggest difference is the speed!!!
I did the following test with vb6 and vb.net 2003:

code in vb6:
Dim T As Long
Dim I As Long
Dim A As Double
A = Timer
For I = 1 To 100000000
*T = T * 20
Next I
MsgBox(Timer - A)

To run this code, it took only 360 ms.

code in vb.net 2003:
Dim T As Long
Dim I As Long
Dim A As Double
A = Microsoft.VisualBasic.Timer
For I = 1 To 100000000
*T = T * 20
Next I
MsgBox(Microsoft.VisualBasic.Timer - A)

To run this code, it took 5203 ms!

Like in this code, vb.net is 15 times SLOWER than vb6!!!

so... which one is better... :whistle:

[STFM]

.net is an enterprise IDE. Its like comparing the free Eclipse IDE to IBMs Rational Developer Enterprise. Enterprise = slower but more useful tools for creating applications.

It takes me about 2 minutes to create and deploy a simple EJB as a web service using Rational - if I had to hand code the deployment files with Eclipse it would take me hours.

If you are writing games... I havent seen many games lately that use web services!

[win98]

vs 6.0 is my pick only one i used

[win98]

vs6 is my choice only one i used
EDIT:sorry for posting twice