Covering the server costs...

[Bobbin Threadbare]

Perhaps spyware scanning?

[Tom Henrik]

Perhaps getting back on topic? ;)

[Abi79]

I thought this was on topic: helping Danny see the ads so he can click on them. Oh, well, hail to the Pumpkin King LOL :cheers:

[Tom Henrik]

If he wanted help to fix that, he would be better off asking in troubleshooting. More technical adepts there.

[Jaydev]

Hi Kosta! I'm on my way to a click-fest and you'll soon hear from me when my pay-pal account is on. Plz doncha worry, buddy. :ok:

[Tom Henrik]

That's nice of you Jaydev, just remember not to go too wild on the clicking. Otherwise you will only cause problems.

Welcome to the site
:cheers:

[WoodAnt]

There I did 3 clicks for you guys.

[Dave]

Hey Tom...a new Avatar?
Really nice!
Today I'm going to click the ads for you guys! :ok:

[JimmyJ]

He's had taht avatar a while....How much money do you get per click?

[Romano]

Originally posted by Kosta@Nov 3 2004, 04:44 PM
Around 5 cents :P
WOW :Brain:

[Dave]

It's been a long time...I "logged in" in summer... LOL

[Jordan]

I will click some ads, if I had money I would donate, but I don't have much to spare. :)

[landahoy]

Hi all,

I just found this site and I LOVE it!! I have clicked my 2 ads already, and if I had it I would not hesitate to donate, maybe something will come up after christmas. Thank you for such a wonderful site.

-Bryan

[JimmyJ]

I have no money to donate, so I will click banners for you!

[Jordan]

Hi all,

I just found this site and I LOVE it!! I have clicked my 2 ads already, and if I had it I would not hesitate to donate, maybe something will come up after christmas. Thank you for such a wonderful site.

-Bryan

I know, the games here are excellent.

I have one question for the staff -- if all donations and clicks keep coming in like they do now, will Abandonia be online for a long time?

Also, can we click both the Clicksor and Google, whats better?

[Titan]

Originally posted by Jordan@Dec 8 2005, 08:08 PM

Hi all,

I just found this site and I LOVE it!! I have clicked my 2 ads already, and if I had it I would not hesitate to donate, maybe something will come up after christmas. Thank you for such a wonderful site.

-Bryan

I know, the games here are excellent.

I have one question for the staff -- if all donations and clicks keep coming in like they do now, will Abandonia be online for a long time?

Also, can we click both the Clicksor and Google, whats better?
Right now, we are breaking even pretty much, with a few months buffert saved up in case we need to change servers (they mostly require you pay the 3 first months in advance).

Every month it's different.. Last month, we recived 28 US$ from ads only, but luckely the donations coverd the rest.

But if they keep comming as they do now, we'r keeping alive :)

//Titan, The Economy-gnome of Abandonia.

[Lucullus]

Would it help if I also had some of your adcode on my site? I am allowed to put ads up as long as I keep my host ones as well :)

[Titan]

Originally posted by Lucullus@Dec 9 2005, 06:00 AM
Would it help if I also had some of your adcode on my site? I am allowed to put ads up as long as I keep my host ones as well :)
Probably not. It's the same as if ppl start clicking 20 banners each day. They would just track it down, and kill the entire paycheck and cancel our account with them.

Happend once before, and it's not fun to have 2 months of banner-income annihilated...

[Abi79]

If I click 5 times on Clicksor's ads, but I see something interesting afterwards, what should I do ? Can I click on different ads with the same source (e.g. Clicksor) more times ?

[J.Talbain]

Clicking an ad: Only a few seconds worth
Getting games you remember from young: Priceless

So yeah, I'll make sure that I click 2 or 3 times each time I access :D

[Lucullus]

Originally posted by Titan+Dec 9 2005, 05:37 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Titan @ Dec 9 2005, 05:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Lucullus@Dec 9 2005, 06:00 AM
Would it help if I also had some of your adcode on my site? I am allowed to put ads up as long as I keep my host ones as well :)
Probably not. It's the same as if ppl start clicking 20 banners each day. They would just track it down, and kill the entire paycheck and cancel our account with them.

Happend once before, and it's not fun to have 2 months of banner-income annihilated... [/b][/quote]
Fair enough. Will just keep clicking :) And to everybody that uses ad blockers... turn them off when you come here LOL or else you'll be asking where they are and they aren't THAT invisible ;)

Should get myself a creditcard... yes I should

[Jordan]

The problem with advertisements now is that a lot of people running Mozilla Firefox have AdBlock, the extenstion that blocks ads..I don't have Firefox, but I did and I used to have AdBlock...

[Lucullus]

Maybe set up a different page with just ads that we can go into and click... isn't porn links paying well? :)

[Abi79]

LOL Porn links on a site visited my children ? I do not believe those would be an option.

[Lucullus]

Members only access if they are over certain age?? :) but then that can be cheated on...

[Danny252]

what if you lie about your age?

[Abi79]

And even if one would not lie about his age, I do believe that porn sites are not very safe (trojans...) and neither is the fact of linking to them. Also, setting up a different page only wiith ads would not help, since people won't bother to go over there and click on the ads. It's much better to leave them here, I say. :)

[Lucullus]

Of course they can lie about their age... they do all the time :) But I guess that there are no perfect way of getting ads to cover your costs. Just have to rely on the ones willing to click.
2 times per visit should be sufficient and keep the ad blocker software off when you visit abandonia :)

[Jordan]

Originally posted by Abi79@Dec 16 2005, 02:08 PM
And even if one would not lie about his age, I do believe that porn sites are not very safe (trojans...) and neither is the fact of linking to them. Also, setting up a different page only wiith ads would not help, since people won't bother to go over there and click on the ads. It's much better to leave them here, I say. :)
Yeah, they do sometimes. And about the trojans, thats true. It could happen.

[Titan]

Look.. we'r not going to have casino/poker-ads as it looks now, and there will be pigs flying before we resort to porn-ads...

EOD.

[sirius]

I'll click on whatever ads there is, just to help keep this great site alive.... :D

[SirPeter]

Just get the text under the download bigger and maybe even an arrow to the add to get ppl clicking. I always overlooked the text below the download button untill I saw this thread.

Ppl usualy are to eager to get the game and get blinded by the greed :P

[Titan]

We'r actualy not allowed to do that either.
If discoverd, they'll annihilate the account.
We've been busted for that once, but got off with a warning, since we honestly didn't know that wasn't allowed.

The point is; they want ppl who have a genuine intrest in what the ad is for, to click... and i don't blame them for that... If the advertisers doesn't sell anything, who is going to buy the ad-space?

If you are using an ad-blocker, it's up to you. If you feel bad about it, you are free to make a donation. It's a free world, and we offer a free service (on the user-end) with no costs attached in any way. No subscription you can buy or anything else, just free. On our side, it's not free however, so we'r trying to keep the site as good as possible, to gain the best sponsors, and increase the chanse of ppl making donations.

Bottom line: We will not try to tamper with any ads, nor tell you to click them (since we'r forbidden by the contract to do that). We'll not resort to popup or casino-ads. We will never get porn-ads. If you see something you might be intrested in, give it a shot, and visit the site. If you find something good = You'r happy, We'r happy and they'r happy. If you don't = We'r happy, they'r happy (since they recived an incommin hit) and You'r also happy, since you contributed to Abandonia anyway.

[Gandalf]

Originally posted by Danny252@Oct 2 2005, 06:30 PM
What about people with ad blockers?I have some sort of one on my other pc and I dunno how to turn that off.
Hi everyone! :ok:

Phew, 19 pages of discussion and I was seriously wondering what it was all about.

Ads? On Abandonia? No, had never seen one or at least couldn't remember. So checked again the main page and the forum, but no signs of something missing. Neither experienced a broken layout, nor found any "[AD]" substitutions by any popup blocker.

I'm using Firefox 1.5 and/or IE without additional extensions/plugins.
The only popup blocker that I have is built into my firewall (Outpost). But this one usually replaces advertising images with the mentioned "[AD]" text. Also there is a whitelist to exclude trusted sites and I had previously added abandonia.com to it!

By disabling the popup blocker or removing "googlesyndication" from the blocklist the ads would eventually show up. So obviously both the whitelist and the text substitution failed.
This is too bad because the only solution seems to be to permanently remove "googlesyndication" from the blocklist. That means that those google ads will chase me everywhere I go not only on Abandonia... Sigh, I don't like that! Hopefully I will find another solution for that problem soon.

To sum it all up: More and more "internet security" solutions have built-in popup blockers. Many user don't even know and care about this as long as everything works fine in automatic mode. I don't think that you can do anything about it.
But as those blocked ads literally vanish without any trace, it would help to know when and where those ads have actually been removed.
So is my suggestion: enclose all ads in a visual frame, add a border or something. Just enough to clearly show the visitors/users if the content (i.e. the advertising image) is missing!

To be honest: I read those hints ("Please support us by donating or clicking on the ads above!") on the download page but I skipped with the notion of it just being some sort of left-over from past times as I did't see any ads... Shame on me! :tomato:

Anyway, keep up your great work!
As a big and long-time fan of classic gaming, I will look to how I can support you in the future. :bye:

[Titan]

Don't worry. A 5€ donation is equal to ALOT of ad-clicks. Quite a few seems to use this method nowadays.

Thankyou for your research/feedback however. Not much we can do about it, unless we host the ads ourselves on the server, and thereby bypass the hotlinking.

[Gandalf]

For a start:

Sie haben eine Zahlung gesendet

(...)

Artikelbezeichnung:* Abandonia
Betrag:* €10,00 EUR
Verpackung und Versand:* €0,00 EUR
Anzahl:* 1
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Gesamtbetrag:* €10,00 EUR


Just don't run off with all that money. :D

[Titan]

Payment Details
-----------------------------------

* Total Amount: 10.00 EUR
Currency: Euros
Transaction ID: 5XXXXXXXXXX2
Sales Tax:* 0.00 EUR
Item/Product Name: Abandonia
Buyer: Dennis XXXXXXX

Yepps.. thankyou.
Those are for the server costs.

[Wolf Thug]

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[Grinder]

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Dude what happened? Anyway, I'm clicking twice a day.
Hope It'll help! :ok:

[Master MC]

If I may be so bold to ask (correct me if told already), what are the monthly server costs?

[Danny252]

Oh, lord, HILARIOUS!

I just saw an ad around talking about a Free Ad Blocker, of all things!

[Grinder]

Originally posted by Danny252@Jan 20 2006, 09:13 PM
Oh, lord, HILARIOUS!

I just saw an ad around talking about a Free Ad Blocker, of all things!
Happened to me twice :D .
Actually, I found Adventure Quest in an Ad ond
Abandonia, and I have been playing it for a while.
Nice game.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Master MC@Jan 20 2006, 10:00 PM
If I may be so bold to ask (correct me if told already), what are the monthly server costs?
Hehe.. since we have a deal with the company who hosts the server that is not listed as a regulare offer, we have some disscount, but it's around 100 / month, that much i can tell you.. so it's NOT cheap

[kleine777]

and how much does each click bring in?

[bruno]

Originally posted by kleine777@Jan 21 2006, 09:02 AM
and how much does each click bring in?
If you want to know see the page 4 of this topic... :D

[Titan]

The point is not how much each click does, it's how many ppl can do it once.

I don't mind ppl using ad-blockers.. i can understand that, and seeing how many that have chosen to drop a 5 or 10€ donation, it's ok.

I'm still amazed how generous everyone is concidering we don't charge anything for the usage of the site. It's realy uplifting and motivates all of us to do our best and keep it going.

[Tulac]

Does Abandonia pay for IPB 1.3.1 or is it free, cause I heard that somewhere that it's free since 2.0.0 has come out, but I'm not sure :unsure:

[wormpaul]

got a question:

When i live in the netherlands and i wanna transfer money to you guys..

How is the best way to do it when you doesnt have:

Creditcard
Paypal (or things like that)

SO plz send me a personal message because i almost never read the forum anymore but still wanna do something back for such a great site (still look every day on it :bleh: )

Greetings,

Wormpaul

[_r.u.s.s.]

is it allowed/legal to make click bot?(like bot which will go to abandonia.com, open and minimise 3 ads for example)

if yes, i can make one and share it

[Master MC]

Sst! Don't tell the advertisers, I don't know if they'll be happy, Kosta/Titan said something about this before, I don't know.
But hey, that's just me. Let someone else speak.

[Titan]

If you do, and we find out, i can promise you will be annihilated from this forum permanetly, as we would loose an entire month worth of income.

[_r.u.s.s.]

i dont do, i was asking if i can begin :huh:
so i wont