Quest for Glory 1 - So You Want To Be A Hero VGA

[Luchsen]

I had some problems putting a link in my post. For example there isn't the possibility to disguise the link anymore. Will this be fixed in the future?

Click the Switch Editor Mode button top right of the gray editor field (The "A/A" one). If you want it to be permanent, go to your UCP->[Edit Options]->{Miscellaneous Options}->[Standard Editor - Extra formatting controls] -- [] = select and/or click, {} = paragraph.

[Kvntvmt]

Hmm. I've never played it, but it seems like I should..
/dls.

[lazylisa]

I'm in the middle of this game right now and realized I was supposed to give my hero a name at the beginning. Somehow I missed that part. Now I'm doomed to remain the "unknown hero." Unless I start over, that is. Damn it!

[blackboard]

"Unknown Hero" is not the worst name to have. Reminds me more of of western than of a RPG, but who cares :)

[Doink]

When you import your character into the next game you'll be able to change your name

[MandrakeMousse]

I just finished playing the whole series (not including the 5th game which I've never played *sob!*) all the way through with one character imported into all the games, starting as a fighter and ending up a paladin. Now I'm working on doing that again, but with a magic user. I have to say, it's MUCH easier playing as a fighter/paladin, or even as a thief (my favorite class to play when I was a kid), it's hard to earn enough money to buy potions to replenish your health and mana, and geez are mana potions expensive! It's also just tough to get around due to the fact that magic users aren't very good up against monsters, and the one combat spell you can learn is pricey.

A couple of tips for anyone playing as a magic user character:

1. Sleep at Erana's Peace every night, you'll save money by not paying to sleep in the inn, and your health, stamina and mana will be fully replenished after a full night's sleep, unlike sleeping in some other places.

2. Eat fruit from Erana's Peace as often as you can, you'll save cash by not relying on rations or meals at the inn.

3. Play Mage's Maze with Erasmus, it's the best way to practice your spells, and increase your magic prowess. If anyone needs help in figuring out how to play this weird game, let me know, it took a bit of head scratching before I finally figured it out.

4. Work on building up your strength and weapon use as well as your magic skills and intelligence. Killing the tougher monsters (Cheetaurs & Trolls) is the best way to get a good amount of steady cash to pay for those pricey mana potions you'll want to get, so you shouldn't neglect to make your hero strong, even though he's not a fighter. Working in the stables gives a small amount of cash and helps increase your strength too.

5. Buy your health, stamina and mana potions from the Healer, and not from Zara the owner of the magic shop. The Healer sells them cheaper.

[Panthro]

If you really work up your flame dart spell, it does massive damage, by the later stages I could kill more ogres in a night than I did with a fighter.

[sfiebig]

I'm very glad I tried Quest for Glory and now have finished the first one in the VGA version. Now, I am going to play the second one, but the remake, which makes the game a lot easier with the new interface. English is not my native language, so the parser interface isn't that much fun.

Thanks for providing this fantastic game and I hope :-) when I will have played the third one, the fourth will also be available, so my character can improve further.

[Frodo]

I'm very glad I tried Quest for Glory and now have finished the first one in the VGA version. Now, I am going to play the second one, but the remake, which makes the game a lot easier with the new interface. English is not my native language, so the parser interface isn't that much fun.

QFG2 Remake is reviewed over on Reloaded, if you are interested. :)
http://www.reloaded.org/download/Quest-For-Glory-II-Trial-By-Fire-Remake/410/

[sfiebig]

Thanks for the hint!

The only drawback mentioned (combat system) I can so far not validate. First, I haven't played that far and second, what the handbook says seems very promising. Especially compared to the combat system in the first Quest for Glory (VGA). I often had to click twice or trice or ... to make my hero doing what I want.
Maybe I should have increased cycles in dosbox even more.

[Wicky]

I have finished all 5 games in the series, the first two with text parser without any help from walkthrough. I must say, QFG4 - Shadows of Darkness is the best with it's mature setting. But I couldn't beat the end-boss in QFG5 as the flame breath from the dragon would let my computer crash everytime.

[toolman24594]

Could someone please help me with this...I can't figure out how to get out of here...I have followed the guide with no success...please email me at

[Edited]

[Guest]

I played this game in early 90s in my grand old desktop.

I downloaded it, started playing and realized that i don't have a keypad in my Laptop. I am using a dosbox and can you guide me how can i use all the features. I can't use my mouse in the DOSbox either.

[dosraider]

You always can remap the needed keys in dosbox.
You start the keymapper program with CTRL+F1
It's an easy to use dosbox feature.

More explanation if needed: dosbox readme.

[Maxor127]

Excellent game for an excellent series. QFG1 is probably the best overall game of the series. I think QFG4 has the best story, but I didn't like the combat. It seemed too hard for a fighter or thief, which I honestly never really bothered with since my characters always used magic and it was incredibly easy just to hang back and launch spells until a monster died.

[El Quia]

I don't know, for some bizarre reason, I have a soft spot for QFG2. But yes, this one started it all and it was wonderful, and the fell of this one I think it was recaptured with QFG4, except for the gothic/lovecraftian horror mix they added to the fourth (I don't mean that gothic horror and lovecraftian horror are similar, I know they are complete oposites. But this game manages to mix them both: vampires, undeads and haunted castle on one side, and mad monks, deformed abomination and dark unspeakeable gods on the other). The third just tries to be a bit too seriousm and it doesn't seems to be a part of the series (which, if IRC, is the case: the third one was added to the original idea). The fifth I only played once, and I didn't really liked it the same way as the others: it just seems another game altogether. Although the third one see,s different from the other, you know for its gameplay and such that is from the same series. With the fifth you know by its characters and story and such that it's part from the same series, but it's gameplay seems totally different (and it's ambientations feels out of place: the other four could all be reasonably on the same time period -except some things from the fourth- but this seem a lot more ancient -well, except for the scientists- due to the ancient greece inspiration).

I always loved playing the mage, not only in this game but in general: I love characters with magical abilities. But what I like about the thief are the robbery quests: they have charm, puzzle and a kick ass music! Except on the third (And I didn't played the thief on the fifth, yet), where the only two robbery missions are part of the storyline (when on the other two were optional), very simple and completely unecessary from the plot POV. The thief here is somewhat romantic, and the robberies, even when it is depicable (the case of the old lady from QFG1, for example), have that adventurous charm of the romantic thief, with some nice puzzles and some humor.

The fighter is too straighfoward in my opinion, and only on QFG2 it has something that makes it interesting: the EOF sidequest and the quest for paladinhood (although every class could be named paladin if you played it honorable enough, although I think it was changed for the anthology edition: I had a mage turned paladin at the end of Trial by Fire). And the paladin is only really interesting on the QFG4, where it has it's own set of sidequests. For the fifth I can't speak: as I said before, I only played it once with my magician.

[Maxor127]

The only thing I really don't like about QFG5 is the combat. It doesn't zoom in for combat and it abandons what little strategy the previous games had. Otherwise, I thought it was decent. Certainly better than King's Quest 8 from what I played or Gabriel Knight 3 which wasn't bad but had lots of annoying quirks.

[El Quia]

Ha, I have gabriel knight II and III and I can bring myself to play them. I don't know why, maybe because I loved GK I too much and I am afraid of being disillusioned?

And yeah, combat on QFG5 is messy and... don't know... ugly. A horde of people attacks you, you hithithithithithithit and sometimes run away. Or you cast dazzle and hithithithithithit. And I don't know, but the ambientation, the perspective, everything seemed to me like another game, didn't find the emotional and gameplay connection with the others... I am not saying it an ugly game, just that I prefer the old QFG style. And parser, at that! :hihihi:

[Frodo]

... just that I prefer the old QFG style. And parser, at that! :hihihi:
Are you aware that QFG1 EGA (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/979/Quest+for+Glory+1+-+So+you+want+to+be+a+Hero.html) is on site, and it uses text parsar. :)

[El Quia]

Are you aware that QFG1 EGA (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/979/Quest+for+Glory+1+-+So+you+want+to+be+a+Hero.html) is on site, and it uses text parsar. :)

Yep, but I have the QFG Anthology, so I have both versions :clap:

[Capo]

Ha, I have gabriel knight II and III and I can bring myself to play them. I don't know why, maybe because I loved GK I too much and I am afraid of being disillusioned?


I have played the first an the third but i cant find the right situation to play the second :crybaby:

[fathead]

This is my all time favorite series. QFG4 is my all time favorite game, it's a shame it's not up here.

[Maxor127]

Ha, I have gabriel knight II and III and I can bring myself to play them. I don't know why, maybe because I loved GK I too much and I am afraid of being disillusioned?

And yeah, combat on QFG5 is messy and... don't know... ugly. A horde of people attacks you, you hithithithithithithit and sometimes run away. Or you cast dazzle and hithithithithithit. And I don't know, but the ambientation, the perspective, everything seemed to me like another game, didn't find the emotional and gameplay connection with the others... I am not saying it an ugly game, just that I prefer the old QFG style. And parser, at that! :hihihi:

Gabriel Knight 2 is excellent. I'd even say it's better than the first game. I didn't like the direction the ending took in GK1. Gabriel Knight 3 was kind of disappointing but still worth playing if you're a fan of the series. It's kind of like the Da Vinci Code.

[El Quia]

It's kind of like the Da Vinci Code.

Well, that doesn't make me want to play it! :P

But I think we were taking the thread too much into the Gabriel Knight direction. Let's return to the wonderful Quest for Glory.

So... you want to be a hero? :D

[Wicky]

I found QFG4 extremely surprising, because normally the sequels deteriorate in quality over time. QFG1 was super and charming, QFG2 a little less than the original, QFG3 a letdown. But then they bring out part 4 and everything seemed even better than before, everyone who has played the 4th part knows what I mean. So the exception proves the rule.

[Maxor127]

Except the combat. Did not like QFG4's combat. I think the style of combat in the previous games worked best.

[Wicky]

Yep, combat is worst that's true, but I blame it on Dosbox because it runs way too fast. I always imagined the combat would be cool if it ran on a real 386.

[dosraider]

... but I blame it on Dosbox because it runs way too fast.
Hammer on CTRL+F11 to slow things down in dosbox.

[_r.u.s.s.]

actually combat is pretty horrible on adjusted machine as well

[Wicky]

Yep, especially the mana regeneration which totally refills your energy in combat in a few seconds.

[Maxor127]

It was like a crappy generic fighting game. Fighting with a weapon was useless, which was why I just launched spell after spell no matter what class I was. Spells were overpowered and melee was too weak and dangerous. It sucked out all of the skill involved in fighting from the previous games. QFG4 definitely has the best story though and some great voice acting and atmosphere.

QFG1 is the best all around game in my opinion, though. It had a nice variety of quests and areas.

That reminds me. Does anyone else have the problem where purple colors bleed through the stats screen at night in the VGA version? I'm guessing it's a palette problem. I played the Mac version back in the day and don't remember that problem, so I don't know if it's a problem with the DOS version or a DosBox emulation problem. It's very annoying though.

[_r.u.s.s.]

That reminds me. Does anyone else have the problem where purple colors bleed through the stats screen at night in the VGA version? get exactly the same stuff. but not every night though, and the level of "color bleed" is random each night too

[helphelp]

MINOR SPOILER WARNING


I have a small problem in the brigand fortress.
I made my way through all the rooms just to realize i need a dispel potion to beat the leader... and i dont have it. Is there any alternatives? i couldnt go back either so it is a dead end. Tried some codes but couldnt get them to work. I play VGA version.

[_r.u.s.s.]

well.. you can climb back out of the fortress and go back snatch the potion. but you can't climb out when you're already inside the building

but if you're already stuck,

here are my saves: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5kqtpr i played theif
backup your old ones just in case and then replace them with these

the savegame that says "i have dispell" is what you're looking for. or you don't have ingredients for dispell yet? in any case, you can check out the saves, there are some more

i think they are also ordered chronologically from the oldest to the newest bottom/top

[cnquist]

Finding this game just makes me happy. They don't make games like this anymore. No school like the old school. This game got me hooked on adventure games but unfortunately there are no other games like this series. I always wished I could find other games like this but its in a genre all its own.

I'm glad to see it on abandonia since it was overlooked when the other sierra game series were released. Now the next generation of gamers have the opportunity to enjoy the goodness that is this game.

[antfen12]

Top notch classic games...all the quest for glories although im partial to the first 2...All are great in there own way....5's combat was a little disappointing although that never was what really drove this series....

I have a problem importing my character....For some reason I cant save the character to my harddrive, and when I use a flash disk the game doesnt recognize the f: drive...can anyone help me its really a downer

[red makak]

Hi guys

I just started quest for glory 1 (for the first time) and I must say it's a great game.

I have a little bit of a problem though. Since in the beginning I wasn't sure how to buy stuff so I sort of stole some healing potions from the healer - it was actually more of an accident then on purpose. Anyway, now everytime I return she won't let me in!!

Anybody now how to get around that!?

I play a fighter by the way.

Thanks

Regards Red Makak

[Wicky]

Simply ask her, that you want to "buy healing potion". If you "take" a potion without paying, she refuses to let you into her shop. I suggest that you continue from an earlier savegame (or restart whole game) as the healer becomes later very important for your main quest.

[red makak]

Simply ask her, that you want to "buy healing potion". If you "take" a potion without paying, she refuses to let you into her shop. I suggest that you continue from an earlier savegame (or restart whole game) as the healer becomes later very important for your main quest.

I stole the potion very early in the game and I have played around 10 hours since - so the option of starting over is pretty exhausting... isn't there any other way around so she will let you in?
And is it impossible to complete the game without dealing with her?

Thanks

Regards Red Makak

[Lulu_Jane]

Hmmm, I did this before too, well actually I think I attacked her. Anyways, from what I recall you're most likely stuck.

[Frodo]

Sorry Red Makak. You need her help later on in the game, so you have to keep on her good side. :max:

Not sure if this will work, but try talking to her (or talking to the door, if you can't get in) to apologize. :mhh:

[red makak]

Thanks for the respons guys

I tried your suggestions but it didn't really work. So I startet over - one good thing about it was that second time around I knew it was a good thing to get climbing from the beginning as a fighter.

regards Red Makak

[Wicky]

Well, it is still possible to complete the game without her. You need the service of the healer for 2 out of 3 main-quests though, you you'll be missing a lot.

[red makak]

Hi guys

So, I'm done with qfg1 and I want to continue to play my character in qfg2. But I can't seem to be able to import my character once I startet qfg2, what to do?

When I finished qfg1 it suggested I saved on a: drive but since I don't have any I changed it to c: (was that a mistake?)

Can anyone help!?

Thanks

Regards Red Makak

[Wicky]

Your character is exported to a file named "glory1.sav"
I suggest searching for this file and copying to the QFG2 folder, then you should be allright

[red makak]

Your character is exported to a file named "glory1.sav"
I suggest searching for this file and copying to the QFG2 folder, then you should be allright

Thanks for the quick respons Wicky - IT WORKED :thumbs:

Besides, I couldn't really get use to EGA so I searched the net and found a VGA release from 2008 of qfg2. So if anyone is interested the link is as follows and so far it works pretty nicely:

http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/qfg2/downloads/thegame/downloads.html

Regards Red Makak

[Capo]

The work this guys have done is great!

[Akira]

Well, it is still possible to complete the game without her. You need the service of the healer for 2 out of 3 main-quests though, you you'll be missing a lot.

Two of the main quests? You only really need her for one quest, don't you? All you really need from her is the dispel potion, unless I'm missing something O.o

Played this game a jillion times and I'm still missing two points 8( So sad. Wonder if I just missed a conversation topic or something.

[DarthHelmet86]

You also need her for the undead ungent, to get the mandake from the graveyard. At least that is true in the EGA version.

[El Quia]

The mandrake was main quest? I think it's been a long time ago since I played that game. I must fix that. Also, the dispel potion is used in TWO QUESTS! :p

[DarthHelmet86]

The three main quests are, Find the prince, the princess and to get rid of Baba Yaga. I can't say for certain if you need the mandrake, but it is part of the Baba Yaga quest line, she wants you to get it for her. You might be able to remove her without doing it, but I have never tried.

[Wicky]

Afaik the dispel potion is only used at the brigand leader. I think you mean the 2nd one is for the bear, but isn't he transformed back into human when you release his magical manacles?
And yep with 2 main quests I meant the undead unguent and the dispel potion.

[DarthHelmet86]

Yes the prince is released if you unlock is manacles.

[El Quia]

Yes, that's true, I have my memories messed up. But you don't need to take baba yaga away to win the game. I think that it is possible to win without making baba yaga go away. Just rescuing the princess is enough, as far as I remember

[DarthHelmet86]

You don't need to get rid of Baba or rescue the prince, but to get the most amount of points, and the cannon ending you do. Not being able to get the dispel potion though will stop you from being able to finish the quest that ends the game. So herb lady is required.

[El Quia]

So, no stealing potions from her until having the dispel potion! :p

[Wicky]

Man this game is so great, I wished it was bigger!

[El Quia]

Man this game is so great, I wished it was bigger!

Yes, it is one of the best of the series (although I am a grumpy old man and prefer the EGA version :p). The 4th in the series returns to this roots in a sense, so you will surely enjoy it a lot. Sure, everything is more on the spooky gothic side, with a little dash of lovecraftian, but it is still being in a little fief, in the middle of a dangerous forest, with mythical creatures going around.

[Maxor127]

I've probably said it elsewhere on here, but the first game is the best all around game. Fourth game has the best story. The VGA version is about the only VGA remake from Sierra that I like better than the original, maybe because fighting and using spells and stuff works better with the icon interface, although it sucks that it dumbs dialog down. So I'm not against playing both.

I'd still like to find a fix for the palette issues during the night in the VGA version. I grew up with the Mac version and still haven't gotten that to work in order to compare the two since I don't remember it having that problem. I have a freeze bug (also VGA version) when giving the thieves guild password to the goon guy that I haven't been able to fix as well.

[flameg0d]

I've read many walktrough but I still cant get past his maze, all the walktrough said to talk to him untill he said he'll wait inside, but talk about what how many times, anyone please give me a detailed info :(

[Maxor127]

The jester maze? You can't make it to the jester or when you do, you can't progress?

[flameg0d]

yup, the baron's jester Yorrick A.K.A brigands warlock Yorrick's maze, every waktrough I read said I should talk to him so he recognized me as one of elsa's friend, but how, I've talk to him for more than 2 hours, and I have talked to every NPC in the game except baba yaga.
:cry:
note, don't give me a save link or a cheat/trainer patch

[Wicky]

I don't know if that could be the problem, because I always had the dispel potion with me, but do you have it? Not having the dispel potion could mean that an important dialogue option is missing, for example to tell him about how you plan to dispel Elsa.

[eugene425]

I don't know if that could be the problem, because I always had the dispel potion with me, but do you have it? Not having the dispel potion could mean that an important dialogue option is missing, for example to tell him about how you plan to dispel Elsa.
I`m download walkthrough http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/174/Quest+for+Glory+-+So+You+Want+To+Be+A+Hero+VGA.html.
But with open(WordPad) written: !Can`t load filter graphics!What i to do?:oh:

[dosraider]

http://www.openoffice.org/

[flameg0d]

I`m download walkthrough http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/174/Quest+for+Glory+-+So+You+Want+To+Be+A+Hero+VGA.html.
But with open(WordPad) written: !Can`t load filter graphics!What i to do?:oh:

the graphic is just for the QfG1 world map (forest map) U won't need it much just wandering around and U'll find out what's where so ignore it and continue, the main info isn't at graphic

Thanks to wicky the maze prblem is solved, now I got a new problem, how could I import the char I made in QfG1 to QfG2 or more? I've copying all my save files to the QfG2 and 3 folder but they said no file found

ah, 1 more thing, I only got QfG2 cga ver, where could I found the VGA ver?

thx everyone for the advises :OK:

[Maxor127]

After you win a Quest for Glory game, it either creates a character file or it asks you to create it. You don't use a save game file... you have to use the created character file. I think the default name is glory1.sav or something like that unless you saved it under a different name.

[flameg0d]

file not found, hmm perhaps I was wrong, after the final screen which all the npc's along with game designers are in the throne room, I just save and quit, I'll experiment a bit on this one,

is the vga ver qfg1 imported char data also applyable into the cga ver qfg2?

thx for the info maxor

[Maxor127]

After you win and after the end sequence, it should offer to export your character to a file. And yes, you can import any DOS version of QFG1 into QFG2. I think you can even import into the QFG2 VGA fan remake. You can even import to and from the Mac versions of Quest for Glory games too. There is also either a kind of cheat or feature that I always ran into where when you import into a newer QFG sequel, it lets you choose what class you want to be and it imports your stats into the new class.

[flameg0d]

actually I planned to improve my thief char's magic at trial by fire, but then I didn't have the VGA ver for QfG2 does anyone knows where I could download it?

I chose Thief at QfG1 coz it's the only All around job there, the only one I could maxed up all of his stats up to 100

well, guess I have to bypass the trial for now

[Frodo]

Flamegod, there is no vga version. :mhh:
Unless you mean the freeware remake, which can be found here (http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/qfg2/homepage/homepage.html). :OK:

[Panthro]

VGA version of QfG2 can be downloaded at AGD Interactive's website: AGD Interactive (http://www.agdinteractive.com/)

[Frodo]

Panthro, I just linked to that in the post above yours. :suspicious:

[Panthro]

Panthro, I just linked to that in the post above yours. :suspicious:

Yeah, I know.

I hadn't seen your reply when I replied. I opened a bunch of threads and read through them, and got to this one late on, hence the gap between your post and mine.

Sorry for the confusion!

[twillight]

From the VGA version of the first part you can import your character to the second, right?

And just out of curiosity: any hope for the 5th part?

[Wicky]

I have the 5th part but I do not recommend it. It is like letting Walt Disney finish an opera from Shakespeare.

[Maxor127]

Yes you can import from the VGA version to the second.

The 5th part is decent. The main negative is the combat. And I'm not a fan of overland maps in the QfG games. Otherwise, it's decent and a good end to the series. If the combat were better, it would be excellent. Instead, it's just a click-fest kind of like Diablo from what I remember, and often times you're stuck fighting when the camera is zoomed out too far to really see what's going on.

[Panthro]

Personally, I hated what little of the fifth one I've played. Nothing about it seemed good to me, but I never really got into the story.

The one thing in particular that annoyed me was the continuous call-backs to the previous games, and the inclusion of loads of previous characters. It felt awkward and wrong to me.

As I say though, I never gave it a completely fair shot, so I wouldn't tell you not to play it.

[twillight]

I started playing this for good, with a thief (as for only that you can have all stats), and although on the second day I already maxed throwing, I realised I'd need LOTS of money.
And ok, I have 93 lockpick, but it seems I cann ot rise it any further by the "basic" method (up to 60+ you get by picking the healer's house, up to 90+ by picking your nose).

Also the fighting seems a little odd to me.

Not to mention everythng is bloody expensive. How could I get FAST money? Even fighting seems not the best way, as the goblin I managed to kill only dropped 7 silver, and that's not too much.
I'd need money to buy magic-potions to make myself be able to buy magic spells.

At least my stealth skill should max itself soon, as I start getting bored by sneaking before everyone's nose!

[eugene425]

The game is good, but absolutely no time to play it.:whops:

[twillight]

Meh, thief is THE BEST class here.
First: it can have all the skills.
Second: it can get LOTS of money for start, and per day. For start you need some lockpick-values and rob the two vaiable houses for HUNDREDS OF GOLD, and you can play every night knife-throwing (51 silver per game, and with common sense its not hard to win).
Third: with the climbing skill you won't be stucked in town.

Will be interresting how will this guy turn into a paladin...


Currently I'm stuck fighting in the goblin camp and turning the invisible ladder to visible. Basically all my stats are good, except strenght, weapon and magic - with other words my fighting skills.

Also the magic and knight trainers do require high stats to let the player win, and as I go with this mixed-class build, that hinders me from finishing the game fast. Oh well.


But the game is surprisingly good. I just wish the fighting-skills would be easier to rise, or money would come easier.

[DarthHelmet86]

Any class can be the best class...trust me on that.

http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll326/Darthhelmet86/sciv_001.png

Fair enough thats from the EGA version but the same applies to the VGA one.

[Maxor127]

How'd you get all of the skills as a fighter? I only remember being able to do it as a thief. That was one of the benefits for me using the thief too. Plus money is easier to come by, although I don't really spend it on much. The main reason I used the thief was because I felt like I was seeing more of the game by being able to break into locked houses and rob them. Plus I liked the thieving aspects. Fighter was too boring, and magic user didn't distinguish itself enough from my thief with magic abilities. In the later games, they all get their own unique benefits though.

As for making money, from what I remember, the I'd just fight monsters and sell their parts, finish quests, and I'd end every day by sweeping the stable in the castle. I never really bought much, so money was never a problem for me. I'm sure being a thief helped too. I probably bought spells and that was it.

As for QFG5, the references to previous games kind of fit since it was supposed to be the last game of the series, so it was tying all of those games together. Plus I liked the Greek theme. The voxel graphics seemed good from what I remember too, compared to the ugly primitive 3D graphics other games used. I'm not sure how well they'd hold up today though.

Compared to other Sierra games of that time, like King's Quest 8 and Gabriel Knight 3, Quest for Glory 5 was pretty good.

[DarthHelmet86]

Well I just worked out why you couldn't do it in the VGA version (and another reason that I prefer the orginal EGA one) in the orginal you can raise a skill by one point if you have skill points in it. So you add five to the skills you don't have, then an extra one. Then take away the five, leaving just the one point in it, and giving you the five points back. Doing that will allow you to have all the skills as any character.

Thieves can become Paladins, but it's harder. You can even still do the thief only quests. But you have to make sure that you do every thing you can to get lots of honor.

[twillight]

Yes, I remember there was a bug in the EGA-version to do as DH86 says, but not everyone like bugs.


Now what you spend your mney are:
- spells
- chainmail
- toolkit and licence
- potions.
All of them cost hard gold, and many of it. It is SOOO much more convenient to buy everything on the 3rd day... (On the first you start in the middle of the night, so only have time to go around the city, clean the stables, get your thief-licence; on the second you should max. throwing and lockpick during the day to be able to rob the houses at night then spend the rest of the night on climbing the citygate.)
I think the biggest money-well could be spending it on staminapotions - but my advice is not to do that if you will carry your character over to the next game (your money and knives goes with you).

Just for completion, here is a link (http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/562671-quest-for-glory-ii-trial-by-fire/faqs/38553) what tells what items and magic you can carry through.


QUESTION (NEED HELP): How can I beat the Weapon Master? He doesn't have attack-animation, so this seems hopeless. (I have 100 weapons skill before yu ask)

EDIT: Nevermind. I downloaded dowbox, and it turned out there was a bug towards my system. I even heard the - pretty annoying - sound of the game. Oh how much I hoped in talking characters!

Bugs I've found:
- if you make a parry with the thief leader in the knife-game you'll be stuck
- if you try to get access to your inventory in 'Erry's cave, the game quits (but you can use the item you prepared even just outside his cave without problem)
- the game occasionnly just quits when you die instead showing the death-screen
- the game occasionaly quits when you fight mantarays (they are annoying even without this bug)
- you can get stuck when you visit the castle after rescuing the baron's son (so save at the healer's hut)

Just a hint: when talinkg with Erasmus start clicking like mad when he starts putting down his mug. Else he won't let you ask anything! (This part is annoying as hell.)

[Maxor127]

The two bugs I noticed right away when I tried playing a year ago were Bruno or whatever the pub guy's name is freezing when he gets up after I show the thief sign. It happens about 99% of the time for me using DosBox and the New Rising Sun patches. Plus, I get ugly purple palette issue at night most noticeable looking at the stat screen at night.

Is there another New Rising Sun site or a page with the old patches? His site was on geocities, but geocities has been closed for a year now.

[Wicky]

Meh, I reproduced DarthHelmet's Fighter with all skills. You raise Stealth by 5 with the right arrow, then add +1 with numpad plus, and subtract 5 again with the left arrow key, gaining 5 (!) points back. Why doesn't anyone explain me such things??

If I were a game developer, then skills would represent a x% percentage to have success, and only if they succeed they can raise sometimes.
Then with such a cheat as starting with lockpick 1 points you would have, on average, to break into 100 houses, and only ONE time the stat would raise by 1 Point! hahahaha

[twillight]

I don't believe this! I'm stuck trying to find Fred the Troll's nest!

Blast, blast, blast! I'm in the brigand's cave, but the only way I see is the one leading to the Minotaur.
And I could only find a picture on this for the EGA version, where it is bloody evident where to go.

Help please!

[Maxor127]

Are you talking about the hidden entrance to the brigand fort with the troll inside?

[twillight]

Are you talking about the hidden entrance to the brigand fort with the troll inside?

Yes, but I have no idea how in the VGA-version get to the troll after sending him away with the password.
I hope someone can guide me there.

Untill that I'll go and do something else for now. If none has any idea, I'll just finish the game anyway.
I did all the quests and so on, and before finally finishing the game by going to Baba Yaga I have 429 point (so 4 more then necessary!), 94 str, 91 int, 75 magic, 94 picklocks - the rests are 100.
I have 112 gold and 1529 silver. I'm officially rich. And I still have things to sell to the healer.
My spell levels are: 41 open, 13 detect spell, 26 trigger, 42 dazzle, 12 calm, 100 flame dart, 29 fetch.

And I hope QFG2 will bug my import and change me into a fighter for the extra quests XD

[DarthHelmet86]

If you get the AGD remake of Quest for Glory 2, which is a really good job of remaking the game into the same style as this remake of number one, when you import a character it will ask if it is the right class and you can change it. I would recomened getting it, as it is a wonderfull game.

http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll326/Darthhelmet86/Screenshots/QFG2.png

[twillight]

I think that remake was not made by Sierra. Is it compatible with the 3rd part? (No fun beating the game if I won't be able to carry over my character.)

Still my previous question: in the cave (secret enterance) to the Brigand's hideout (or fortress) in the VGA-version I can't find the Troll's Nest. It was taken out, or I'm missing something?

(I also decided to remain and max. my skills as in the 2nd part 200 is the maximum for stats.)

[DarthHelmet86]

That games final save will work fine on QFG3. I don't know about the troll, in the orginal it was to the far left, I never bothered to finish the VGA version.

[twillight]

I clicked every single milimeter on that screen, but no luck.
Oh well, I'll still get around double money then w/o importing anyway.

[Wicky]

There are two path to the trolls nest, go to the screen with the Antwerp and you will notice a suspicious looking rock to the left. After casting "open" on it remember to say the password, or else you must fight Fred when entering the cave. Fred's nest is one screen to the left.
The second path is hidden behind a bush to the left on the screen with the Minotaur in the Brigand's fortress. Open the bush and there is the big cave again. Hope that helped.

[Maxor127]

So is there another New Rising Sun site or a site that has all of his patches and patch info? He had a Geocities site, but Geocities closed in October. Can't find anything on google except mentions to his old site or completely unrelated stuff, like sites about Japan.

[twillight]

There are two path to the trolls nest, go to the screen with the Antwerp and you will notice a suspicious looking rock to the left. After casting "open" on it remember to say the password, or else you must fight Fred when entering the cave. Fred's nest is one screen to the left.
The second path is hidden behind a bush to the left on the screen with the Minotaur in the Brigand's fortress. Open the bush and there is the big cave again. Hope that helped.

I do know how to get in the secret pass, but in the VGA-version there seems to be no way to the Troll Nest.

If someone has a save from the VGA version from the end,and did found the Troll Nest we're talkin' about, please go there, make a screenshot inside the Nest, and at the point on the previous screen where we cen enter to the nest, and upload it to us.

Thx.


(By the way: although I use Win98 and a 700 MHz processor, I still needed the non-sierra patch because of Yoric's door. I'm very much against patches, but in dosbox I couldn't pull the chair before the door in the 2nd screen of the brigands. All qfg-patches can be found (with description!) on sierrahelp (http://www.sierrahelp.com/Patches-Updates/Patches-Updates-Games/QuestForGloryUpdates.html#GfG1), what do exist despite the company Sierra no longer. Sierra is awsome even in its death.)


EDIT: I managed to max. ALL of my stats. For lockpick you have to pick locks doors in the Town. To safely do that only pick door on one screen 2-3 times, then change screen (so picking the sheriff's house and doors on the Ace's screen works best. I noticed that the first door dfrom the left on the screen with the Ace Tavern only allows you up to 95 lockpick, no more!).
For magic and intelligence you mostly have to cast spells until your finger hurts. You get higher chance incrising your stats if your spell has ameaning. So cast open-spell at the Brigand's secret passage - at lvl 58 open the door won't just unlock, but open at the same time! So rising Open has some meaning.
The other good place to cast magic is casting detect magic in the Koblod's cave. You just spam it there.
The dazzle and flame dart spells best used in battle. In battle your intelligence too can go up by doding an attack the attack immediatelly (= counterattack). For the flame dart the archery-practice works too.
Intelligence by the way goes up the hardest, so my advice is, that at the beggining put every spare point you can allow ontu that.
Also when rising dodge/parry you'll stay in battle for LONG. A battle rising them - fight against a goblin - can literraly take one ingame day!

I've finished this game within 22 ingame day.

[Capo]

I was thinking to start this game but many people says is too hard and complicated. Should i give him a chance ?

[Frodo]

Capo, you should DEFINATELY give the game a chance. :D

[twillight]

Give it a chance. The game isn't at all too hard, only if you want to max all spellevel.

But as there is no timelimit - unlike in the later parts -, you should have no problem solving it. And it is fun!

[Capo]

:OK:

[Eagle of Fire]

This is definitely a very nice game. I have never truely finished it because it is a strange blend of both RPG and adventure game... And you know how I like adventure games. But the whole part when you build up your char was really nice. :OK:

[Abandoned Witch]

One of my favorite RPG Adventure games. A very nice game indeed.

[goodros_nemesis]

I came looking for something else and stumbled over this thread... funny, because I was playing QFG2 just today. The original 16-color version. What a treat! I thought the 3rd was the hardest. Maybe it was because the storyline is more linear, and I had to get used to the new interface. I bought the 4th installment on CD within a few weeks after I got my first CDROM drive. A quad-speed Toshiba drive, and it cost $189.00. It was a great addition to my 486-80Mhz w/ 16MB RAM, a 240MB HDD, and a REAL soundblaster 16. So hot...

[Capo]

Some questions:
Is the time important ? I have to make all quickly ?
How about money, can i spend or should i keep the money ?
Near the starting village there is a tree i can try to climb, if i keep trying to climb i keep getting experience points, is that normal ? :omg:

[twillight]

Some questions:
Is the time important ? I have to make all quickly ?
How about money, can i spend or should i keep the money ?
Near the starting village there is a tree i can try to climb, if i keep trying to climb i keep getting experience points, is that normal ? :omg:

As previously said: you have unlimited time. The part of the day determines what you can do at the moment, but otherwise you have unlimited time. (In quest for glory 2-5 the time becomes limited, but in the 1st you have unlimited time.)

Money depends. It can be transferred to the next episode, but money will be plenty anyway, so always have your supplies.

There are different skills the character has, one of it is "climbing". So when you climb the tree you actually use the climb skill, so of course you get experience. The exp-system gives you exp whenever one of your skills gets upgraded, so when your climbing skill will reach the level when climbing the tree won't anymore rise your climbing skill, you'll have to find a harder surface to climb to get more experience from using the climbing skill.

HINT: you have also a Lockpick skill. You can enchance it by picking locks, and even further by picking your nose!

[Panthro]

Getting all your stats/spells to 100 in the first game makes the subsequent games easier.

Even in QfG4, having 100 climbing or whatever can be enough.

[twillight]

Getting all your stats/spells to 100 in the first game makes the subsequent games easier.

If you make all your spells a hundred, I'll eat my hat. Stats and skills are ok, but all the spells...

[Capo]

Many thanks.

I still havent won a single duel but i guess that with a mage is harder :whops:

[Maxor127]

If you make all your spells a hundred, I'll eat my hat. Stats and skills are ok, but all the spells...
I remember doing it. I'd just spam cast spells like I would with any other skill. I had a system where I'd do Erasmus's maze and then rest to regain MP and then I'd keep resting and spamming spells. I think I fit in cleaning the stable too since it was a good way to tire yourself out and raise other attributes.

[twillight]

I remember doing it. I'd just spam cast spells like I would with any other skill. I had a system where I'd do Erasmus's maze and then rest to regain MP and then I'd keep resting and spamming spells. I think I fit in cleaning the stable too since it was a good way to tire yourself out and raise other attributes.

You really had the patient to regain mana? All the other skills are "free" (lockpick can be rised 0->100 around 5 minutes real time, lol), so when I finished the game everything was at 100, but even the best spells of mine were only 70, and half of the spells at ZERO value (and they did the job 100%). Heck, 90% of the times, spells are not efficient to use. Or maybe I'm just more of a swordman:max:

[Panthro]

I did the max spells thing a couple of years back. It makes them amazingly effective, but it does take rather a long time to do (especially difficult at the beginning).
I think I managed 250-300 in the combat ones by the fourth game.

With 100 flame dart you can easily kill brignands and goblins, so that can get you a lot of cash.

[edit]
I should point out I got all the spells from the first game to 100, but after that I concentrated on building up the combat ones. No point in having more than 100 fetch or trigger.

[Capo]

I have played the game on dobox for a couple of days withut problems: Now if i try to play it says "Cant find interp.err".
Someone can help ?

Edit: Resolved, copied the file from the cd, no idea why i need to do this.

[Panthro]

Any reason why the file wouldn't be there? It's just a small file with error messages in it.

If you still have the archive, just open it and transfer that file into the main QFG1VGA directory. Or I can send you the file or something.

[Capo]

Thanks panthro, i've copied it from the cd.

Anyway:

http://imageshack.us/m/402/6500/qg12.png

[twillight]

Only 466/500?

[Capo]

Only ? :perv:

[The Fifth Horseman]

I'm guessing Twilight is one of those "It ain't complete until it's 100%" people. :)

[twillight]

I'm guessing Twilight is one of those "It ain't complete until it's 100%" people. :)

Yes, yes. I had 502 score from the 500!

[virumor]

Is it possible to import a save from the VGA version into Trial by Fire?

I'm planning on replaying the entire series, and would prefer to use the same 'hero' throughout.

[DarthHelmet86]

I am pretty sure you are able to, though I have never tried since I always play the EGA version. But I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.

[Maxor127]

Is it possible to import a save from the VGA version into Trial by Fire?

I'm planning on replaying the entire series, and would prefer to use the same 'hero' throughout.
Yes, it's possible.

[Capo]

And play the remake version of Trial by Fire ;)

[virumor]

And play the remake version of Trial by Fire ;)
Please, tell me more.

[Lulu_Jane]

You're in for a treat Virumor :)

http://www.agdinteractive.com/games/qfg2/

[virumor]

Thanks, looks great.