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Mystvan
04-01-2019, 05:20 PM
I said in another post that about the Lego franchise games. Besides I really like Lego Lord of the Rings, I also love the Lego Indiana Jones. In addition to the OST of the Indiana Jones Trilogy present in the game, the game is very interesting for trying to follow the film approximately and presenting several puzzles.

Regrettably, I do not appreciate too much Lego franchise games, not even the acclaimed Star Wars that requires a lot of dexterity, patience, perseverance and several attempts to get through the most difficult phases. Retry.......... :mighty: :smugulon: :roll:

Regrettably, the Lego franchise are not available for PS4 although they are available for PS3... Perhaps they make them available for PS4 just as it did with Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain? Who knows? ;)

Mystvan
07-01-2019, 08:48 PM
I said in another post that about the Lego franchise games. Besides I really like Lego Lord of the Rings, I also love the Lego Indiana Jones. In addition to the OST of the Indiana Jones Trilogy present in the game, the game is very interesting for trying to follow the film approximately and presenting several puzzles.

Regrettably, I do not appreciate too much Lego franchise games, not even the acclaimed Star Wars that requires a lot of dexterity, patience, perseverance and several attempts to get through the most difficult phases. Retry.......... :mighty: :smugulon: :roll:

Regrettably, the Lego franchise are not available for PS4 although they are available for PS3... Perhaps they make them available for PS4 just as it did with Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain? Who knows? ;)



Whoops! I forgot to mention that I also like the Lego Harry Potter as it involves magic and the story of the series. :zanthia:

However, I remember well that the characters emitted unintelligible sounds... Unfortunately, older games in the Lego franchise have this feature in which the characters do not speak, but only pronounce unintelligible sounds.

In addition to that if there is more than one player participating, the distance of each other from each character is quite limited unlike the most recent games in the Lego franchise. :headslap: :palm:

I do not remember that the Lego Indiana Jones characters also speak intelligible sounds. Already in the Lego Lord of the Rings there are dubs and subtitles of the dialogues. I find it comical when the characters die screaming... :hihihi: Shhh!!! Frodo screaming... I guess I am really evil and sadistic Mysterious being... :sneakrete: :whistling:

Mystvan
13-01-2019, 05:10 PM
Whoops! I forgot to mention that I also like the Lego Harry Potter as it involves magic and the story of the series. :zanthia:

However, I remember well that the characters emitted unintelligible sounds... Unfortunately, older games in the Lego franchise have this feature in which the characters do not speak, but only pronounce unintelligible sounds.

In addition to that if there is more than one player participating, the distance of each other from each character is quite limited unlike the most recent games in the Lego franchise. :headslap: :palm:

I do not remember that the Lego Indiana Jones characters also speak intelligible sounds. Already in the Lego Lord of the Rings there are dubs and subtitles of the dialogues. I find it comical when the characters die screaming... :hihihi: Shhh!!! Frodo screaming... I guess I am really evil and sadistic Mysterious being... :sneakrete: :whistling:



I forgot to mention that it would be possible to explore the interior of the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry... Unfortunately, I did not finish the game on PS3 since the PS4 is being used... Maybe I play the game on the PC (if it is compatible with Windows 10)... :dunno:

Smiling Spectre
17-01-2019, 08:28 AM
Steam is your friend, Mystvan.
First part (https://store.steampowered.com/app/21130/LEGO_Harry_Potter_Years_14/)
and Second one (https://store.steampowered.com/app/204120/LEGO_Harry_Potter_Years_57/).

Mystvan
17-01-2019, 06:00 PM
Steam is your friend, Mystvan.
First part (https://store.steampowered.com/app/21130/LEGO_Harry_Potter_Years_14/)
and Second one (https://store.steampowered.com/app/204120/LEGO_Harry_Potter_Years_57/).



Thank you for the links! :OK: I thought the Lego franchise games were only available on the Microsoft Store because they had the Microsoft logo on the covers.

In that way, I did not expect that such games would be available on Steam. It was a real surprise to me! :omg: :o

I just hope that Cheat Codes can also work in Windows games just as they did in PS3 games... :sneakrete: :mischief:

Smiling Spectre
18-01-2019, 01:27 PM
In that way, I did not expect that such games would be available on Steam. It was a real surprise to me! :omg: :o
You are behind the time, Mystvan, at least for last 7-8 years. If game is not on Steam, it's most probably non-exist for the rest of the world. :) Only most stubborn old-school developers are _not_ on Steam - and some very big vain publishers (EA, Blizzard, and now Epic) purposely removed their games from there. Otherwise "PC Gaming"="Steam" and vice versa. :)

Mystvan
18-01-2019, 06:18 PM
You are behind the time, Mystvan, at least for last 7-8 years. If game is not on Steam, it's most probably non-exist for the rest of the world. :) Only most stubborn old-school developers are _not_ on Steam - and some very big vain publishers (EA, Blizzard, and now Epic) purposely removed their games from there. Otherwise "PC Gaming"="Steam" and vice versa. :)



Yes, perhaps I am “outdated”. :old: *cough* *cough*

The “problem” is that if something interests me that it is available on Steam, I rarely buy directly on Steam. I’d rather buy it on my old favorite sites such as Gamersgate and Gamesplanet.com. And they are merely stored in my Libraries of the respective Customer Accounts since I am kind of Collector.

That way, I am “outdated” on Steam, although I’ve enabled 2-Step Verification there... Curiously, I like to purchase games directly from Origin with the exception of Special Collections and Packs available only on Gamersgate and / or Gamesplanet.com.

Capo
19-01-2019, 05:00 PM
:mhh::mhh:

Smiling Spectre
20-01-2019, 05:05 PM
The “problem” is that if something interests me that it is available on Steam, I rarely buy directly on Steam. I’d rather buy it on my old favorite sites such as Gamersgate and Gamesplanet.com. And they are merely stored in my Libraries of the respective Customer Accounts since I am kind of Collector.
Welcome to my world. ;)

I don't restrict myself with any one site, so I buy where it's most profitable. And I recommend to you IsThereAnyDeal (https://isthereanydeal.com) site. It will inform you about any game packs around. And if you filled your Steam wishlist, it will give you notification about this games discounts as well.

Mystvan
20-01-2019, 06:48 PM
Welcome to my world. ;)

I don't restrict myself with any one site, so I buy where it's most profitable. And I recommend to you IsThereAnyDeal (https://isthereanydeal.com) site. It will inform you about any game packs around. And if you filled your Steam wishlist, it will give you notification about this games discounts as well.



Thank you very much for the link. I did not know the site! Very good! :OK:

Yes, I was like that too, but I preferred to be more practical and limit myself to just a few great sites with no chance of going bankrupt such as Steam, Origin, GOG.com, Gamersgate and Gamesplanet.com.

I’ve already been refunded by Gamesplanet.com because of the defunct GameDownloads.com (subsidiary of the supposedly solid and reliable IDG). And fortunately I never bought any Indie games on the defunct Desura.com. :sick: *phew* *whew*

Yes, I will try to keep in mind what you wrote above. I will try to have a more open mind, broaden my horizons. However, I will still be cautious before venturing / buying games on promising sites that may disappear (Desura.com) at any time, suddenly... :byesad:

Smiling Spectre
21-01-2019, 12:59 PM
Yes, I was like that too, but I preferred to be more practical and limit myself to just a few great sites with no chance of going bankrupt such as Steam, Origin, GOG.com, Gamersgate and Gamesplanet.com.
Actually, I limit myself to Steam only. You can set your preference on Isthereanydeal for this too. ;)

I’ve already been refunded by Gamesplanet.com because of the defunct GameDownloads.com (subsidiary of the supposedly solid and reliable IDG). And fortunately I never bought any Indie games on the defunct Desura.com. :sick: *phew* *whew*

Oh, I have crapload of Desura games. And all of them are usually side-effect result of mixed Steam/Desura packs here and there. (And I fished out all my Steam keys from it anyway before crash. ;) So nothing to sorry here. :)

Capo
21-01-2019, 03:40 PM
the day steam will go bankrupt this planet wont exist anymore

Mystvan
21-01-2019, 09:24 PM
the day steam will go bankrupt this planet wont exist anymore



Yes, I agree with you. :OK: The day Steam crashes, the world will end! I could say the same for GOG.com, Gamersgate, GamesPlanet.com and other big shots (Online Stores).

One thing I’ve always hated on Steam in the past, but I do not know if that is still the case, is that save games storage is not in an obvious place. You need to search and find out where the blessed save games are stored. :sick:

Another thing is that I am not sure if even I can find save games, I could use the Save Game Editor... Ugh! I would need to use specific Trainers for Steam developed by CheatHappens.com... :lame:

Fortunately, there are now Save Games Editors for PS4 such as Save Wizard and Save Wizard Pro... :clap:

Ah, just to clarify: I only use cheats (Trainers, Save Games Editors, Cheat Codes, etc.) when playing alone so as not to waste much time during my scarce moments of leisure. It would be absurd, nonsense I wasting my time and stressing myself that the game was difficult, hard, complex, nightmare, and so on. Leisure is relaxing and stress-free! :wall: :hairpull:

Capo
22-01-2019, 04:06 PM
I never use any cheat so i dont have this problem :suspicious:

Japo
22-01-2019, 10:04 PM
the day steam will go bankrupt this planet wont exist anymore
:perv: 10 Famous Companies That Went Bankrupt or No Longer Exist (https://learn.stashinvest.com/famous-companies-bankrupt-no-longer-exist)

But yeah... by the time Steam goes bankrupt, if you're alive, you'll have got your money's worth. And someone else will have to worry about preserving the lost games. :old:

Mystvan
23-01-2019, 01:56 PM
:perv: 10 Famous Companies That Went Bankrupt or No Longer Exist (https://learn.stashinvest.com/famous-companies-bankrupt-no-longer-exist)

But yeah... by the time Steam goes bankrupt, if you're alive, you'll have got your money's worth. And someone else will have to worry about preserving the lost games. :old:



This shows that missing a golden opportunity can be fatal and even irreversible for a company. An erroneous strategic decision, a comfortable management in the comfort zone and resting on the laurels, show the importance of adaptation, speed of decisions and opportunism. :lame:

Now, regarding the use of cheats, this would be pragmatic to save game time. It could be compared, but not quite the same, to using Walkthrough as saving time and getting to the point during the game. Have fun without hitting your head :wall: or pulling your hair out :hairpull:. Well, it would just be my personal opinion. :)

Smiling Spectre
24-01-2019, 01:17 PM
I think that, aside of occasional "nightmarish" moments, cheats have no sense. If I cannot play the game as is now, why to cheat? To not able to play it ten minutes later? Oh, come on, I'd better change the game.

I know only one exclusion - action/adventures 80s without saves (like Dizzy, for example) where lives are limited, essentially transforming game into "arcade with some adventuring". I wholehearted welcome cheats that removes this strange limits. Fortunately, since 90s it's always warm saves that awaiting me in case of emergency.

Mystvan
24-01-2019, 06:08 PM
I think that, aside of occasional "nightmarish" moments, cheats have no sense. If I cannot play the game as is now, why to cheat? To not able to play it ten minutes later? Oh, come on, I'd better change the game.

I know only one exclusion - action/adventures 80s without saves (like Dizzy, for example) where lives are limited, essentially transforming game into "arcade with some adventuring". I wholehearted welcome cheats that removes this strange limits. Fortunately, since 90s it's always warm saves that awaiting me in case of emergency.



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Well, that would be different points of view... *shrug*

So, since there are people who hate to exercise physically to get out of the comfort zone, I got used to it and I like to exercise physically because it allows me to eat more delicious things to lose weight later... :hungry:

In this case, there are players who would find it fun to overcome the difficulties of passing on a phase even if they need to (re)try more than 10 times... Or participate in many battles over and over again just to increase the level and skills of their Character... Very common case mainly in Console Games such as PS3 and PS4... Uncharted, Lego Star Wars, etc. which would definitely not be my case. :no:

Just like there are people who prefer the genres of game Action / Adventure / Puzzle / RPG / Strategy, but they dislike Sports. That would be my case. I do not see appeals in Sports games such as Soccer Matches, Racing, etc. :sick:





Now, compared to the previous post, I would also add the falls of Nokia and Lotus and the declines of LG, Motorola and RIM in Mobile Devices... Wrong strategies, insists, stubbornness and even pride, rest on the laurels... After all, the dynamic Technology Sector does not allow persistent and stubborn misunderstandings... RIP :death:

I own a relic of the past: a Nokia Smartphone in which Symbian is simply horrendous and very bureaucratic... a veritable labyrinth of options, confirmations, complications... pure technological bureaucracy... No wonder why Nokia and RIM arrived at this point, or rather, at the bottom of the well... Or bottom of the Hell... :headslap: :palm:

Smiling Spectre
25-01-2019, 06:18 AM
My Quotes:
In this case, there are players who would find it fun to overcome the difficulties of passing on a phase even if they need to (re)try more than 10 times... Or participate in many battles over and over again just to increase the level and skills of their Character... Very common case mainly in Console Games such as PS3 and PS4... Uncharted, Lego Star Wars, etc. which would definitely not be my case.

Just like there are people who prefer the genres of game Action / Adventure / Puzzle / RPG / Strategy, but they dislike Sports. That would be my case. I do not see appeals in Sports games such as Soccer Matches, Racing, etc.


I didn't understand your answer, actually.

Situation 1: You don't like to grind or retry. You don't play this games. I can understand it.

Situation 2: You don't like to grind, so you cheat... But why? If you don't like basic gameplay, why to play the games that built on it, instead finding game that suit you? %) It's like buying the castle, complaining that it haven't window walls and centralized heating, and then removing most of walls, replacing it with glass, bricks and modern wallpapers. It's possible, but why, if you could buy modern apartments right from the start? %)

Mystvan
25-01-2019, 06:42 PM
I didn't understand your answer, actually.

Situation 1: You don't like to grind or retry. You don't play this games. I can understand it.

Situation 2: You don't like to grind, so you cheat... But why? If you don't like basic gameplay, why to play the games that built on it, instead finding game that suit you? %)



I will make some corrections or updates to what you wrote about me. Yes, I do not want to retry several times in the game.

I am a Collector in the case of PC games. Regarding Console games such as PS3 and PS4, I am an occasional Player in which I can play alone and / or in pairs with my brother. In that case, I still play games for PS3 and PS4, but I am Collector in PC games.

Now, regarding what you wrote about using Cheats in games... I understand your point of view. Yes, that would be a thought or mentality of a Purist Player: orthodox, dogmatic and without using any Cheats. Well, it is a very personal choice, option. And there are many Players who certainly share this “philosophy” of Purist Gamer...

On the other hand, there are also Casual Gamers who are not willing to waste a lot of time with some game features (or phases): heterodox, pragmatic, practical and can use any kind of Cheats. As there is demand for this type of Player, / Gamer there are Companies and Programmers who are willing to develop the Tools of Cheats.

There are Players who are attracted not by the gameplay, but by the story, side quests, etc. and not necessarily by the action scenes, challenges, difficulties, etc...



Situation 2: You don't like to grind, so you cheat... But why? If you don't like basic gameplay, why to play the games that built on it, instead finding game that suit you? %) It's like buying the castle, complaining that it haven't window walls and centralized heating, and then removing most of walls, replacing it with glass, bricks and modern wallpapers. It's possible, but why, if you could buy modern apartments right from the start? %)



In relation to the Castle, I also understand your point of view, but there are less Purist opinions...

Examples:

• There are very comfortable European Castles, true hotels, where the Past coexists harmoniously with Technology with all Comfort and Luxury;
• There are Luxury Lodges in African Safaris where there are Nature, Animals, Luxury and Comfort. Nothing of Bonfire, the hard floor as Bed and nor the stone like Pillow;
• There are Native American Tents where Traditions, Luxury and Comfort coexist;
• The Purist Motorsport Fans should dislike BMW with front-wheel drive;
• The Purist Motorsport Fans must dislike Super Sports Cars like Tesla in which there are none of the powerful Engine Noise. All for the sake of Nature...

The above examples may sound pure heresy to the Purists... However, Companies and People are being pragmatic and taking advantage of opportunities in the Market for Goods and Services... Business is Business. $$$$$

All this occurs because there are many diversity of tastes, opinions, choices so that there is Supply of Goods and Services for the respective Demand for Goods and Services. This is the Economic and Productive reality of our World... Business is Business. $$$$$

Money Rules the World! $$$$$

Well, it is just my personal opinion... :dunno:

Mystvan
26-01-2019, 09:52 PM
I will make some corrections or updates to what you wrote about me. Yes, I do not want to retry several times in the game.

I am a Collector in the case of PC games. Regarding Console games such as PS3 and PS4, I am an occasional Player in which I can play alone and / or in pairs with my brother. In that case, I still play games for PS3 and PS4, but I am Collector in PC games.

Now, regarding what you wrote about using Cheats in games... I understand your point of view. Yes, that would be a thought or mentality of a Purist Player: orthodox, dogmatic and without using any Cheats. Well, it is a very personal choice, option. And there are many Players who certainly share this “philosophy” of Purist Gamer...

On the other hand, there are also Casual Gamers who are not willing to waste a lot of time with some game features (or phases): heterodox, pragmatic, practical and can use any kind of Cheats. As there is demand for this type of Player, / Gamer there are Companies and Programmers who are willing to develop the Tools of Cheats.

There are Players who are attracted not by the gameplay, but by the story, side quests, etc. and not necessarily by the action scenes, challenges, difficulties, etc...



In relation to the Castle, I also understand your point of view, but there are less Purist opinions...

Examples:

• There are very comfortable European Castles, true hotels, where the Past coexists harmoniously with Technology with all Comfort and Luxury;
• There are Luxury Lodges in African Safaris where there are Nature, Animals, Luxury and Comfort. Nothing of Bonfire, the hard floor as Bed and nor the stone like Pillow;
• There are Native American Tents where Traditions, Luxury and Comfort coexist;
• The Purist Motorsport Fans should dislike BMW with front-wheel drive;
• The Purist Motorsport Fans must dislike Super Sports Cars like Tesla in which there are none of the powerful Engine Noise. All for the sake of Nature...

The above examples may sound pure heresy to the Purists... However, Companies and People are being pragmatic and taking advantage of opportunities in the Market for Goods and Services... Business is Business. $$$$$

All this occurs because there are many diversity of tastes, opinions, choices so that there is Supply of Goods and Services for the respective Demand for Goods and Services. This is the Economic and Productive reality of our World... Business is Business. $$$$$

Money Rules the World! $$$$$

Well, it is just my personal opinion... :dunno:



I will give more examples of how things evolve in an “unexpected” way of their purpose or origin:

• Beirut - a type of Sandwich created by Syrian-Lebanese immigrants here in Brazil. There is the version in which the Pork (Ham!) - a real sacrilege for the Arabs!
• Curry, a delicacy of Indian Cuisine origin, in which there are versions with Beef Pieces - a true sacrilege for Hinduism followers! I’ve tasted an “authentic” Indian Curry;
• Esfiha, a delicacy of Arabic origin, in which there are versions of Sweet Esfihas and what is incredible, a Salty Esfiha with Pork (Calabresa) - a true sacrilege for the Arabs! I have tasted an “authentic” Arab Esfiha;
• Hamburger, German-origin and popularized Cuisine by the Americans, with versions of Hamburger with Vegetable “Meat” - an affront to the Meat-loving Purists;
• Hot Dog, a German-origin and popularized Cuisine by the Americans, in which there are versions of Hot Dog with Vegetable “Sausage”, Peru Sausage, Chicken Sausage - an affront to the Meat-loving Purists. I have tasted an “authentic” American Hot Dog;
• Panettone, a delicacy of Italian Cuisine origin, in which there are versions of Salty Panettone (!!!) with Stuffed Meat or Cheese and Stuffed Panettone with Truffle - true affronts for the Lovers of Traditions of Italian Cuisine;
• Pizza, an Italian Culinary Delicacy, in which there are versions of Sweet Pizza without Tomato Sauce, Vegetarian Pizza with Vegetable “Cheese” without the Dairy Cheese - true affronts for the Lovers of Traditions of Italian Cuisine. I have tasted an “authentic” Italian Pizza;
• Meat Skewers in which there are versions of Vegetable “Meat” Skewers (Soy, Gluten, etc.) - an affront to the Purist-lovers of Meat;
• Non-Original Modifications of Super Sports Cars for a variety of purposes;
• Non-Original Modifications of Game Characters such as Mods;
• Paralympic Games;
• Etc.

I will give my personal opinion that many Members may disagree with me. I believe that Modifications may be “Legitimate”, “Harmless” as long as they do not harm Others such as Developers (Piracy, Counterfeits, etc.), Opponents in Online Games (Competitions, Tournaments, etc.), Sports Competitions and other Modalities. Equal conditions are required for all in these cases without exception so that there are no inequalities and injustices.

However, if the purpose of such “Undue”, “Non-Original” Modifications are not offensive, harmful, etc. to Others, for example, the use of Cheats by a Player is against the Computer and not against an Opponent Gamer, I do not see any problem in this case. The purpose of this would be merely personal fun without further negative consequences for Others. It would be something “Amoral” and not “Immoral”.

I apologize if I am rambling or philosophizing too much on this subject. And, please, I have no intention of offending anyone with my arguments from this and the previous post. Thank you! :OK:

Smiling Spectre
29-01-2019, 11:51 AM
Now, regarding what you wrote about using Cheats in games... I understand your point of view. Yes, that would be a thought or mentality of a Purist Player: orthodox, dogmatic and without using any Cheats. Well, it is a very personal choice, option. And there are many Players who certainly share this “philosophy” of Purist Gamer...
Did I say anything about "purism" or "right" way to play? Come on, stop demonizing me. :D

As I said, there are some badly thought out games (very often in 80s, actually) when it's hardcore for sake of hardcore. Like aforementioned Dizzy, where you supposed to solve tons of puzzles having one-five lives. _I_ see no any incentive to have such limited lives, so I see nothing against hacking such game.

Or, say, Arcanoid game, where your progress is limited with balls.

Another sort of cheat is adventure game with walkthru. Where you are completely lost, if you cannot solve certain puzzle. I see nothing bad to circumvent it.

But I am speaking about games _built_ around some sort of gameplay. Like, killing monsters in Doom, building characters in X-Com, or gaining experience in Elite. Game is _built_ over this gameplay, and skipping it you essentially skip the game. So my question is - why? I am emphase it: not statement "you do wrong", but question "why do you do it?" I am simply curious. :)

Mystvan
30-01-2019, 06:54 PM
Did I say anything about "purism" or "right" way to play? Come on, stop demonizing me. :D

As I said, there are some badly thought out games (very often in 80s, actually) when it's hardcore for sake of hardcore. Like aforementioned Dizzy, where you supposed to solve tons of puzzles having one-five lives. _I_ see no any incentive to have such limited lives, so I see nothing against hacking such game.

Or, say, Arcanoid game, where your progress is limited with balls.

Another sort of cheat is adventure game with walkthru. Where you are completely lost, if you cannot solve certain puzzle. I see nothing bad to circumvent it.

But I am speaking about games _built_ around some sort of gameplay. Like, killing monsters in Doom, building characters in X-Com, or gaining experience in Elite. Game is _built_ over this gameplay, and skipping it you essentially skip the game. So my question is - why? I am emphase it: not statement "you do wrong", but question "why do you do it?" I am simply curious. :)



Well, I know that. :OK:

That is why I mentioned Players / Gamers in Plural. I did not want to demonize you... It is because I am very sensitive on this matter... :sick: And I feel like a lot of Gamers / Players see it as something reprehensible.... Well, at least that would be my impression... Perhaps I may be completely mistaken... After all, I do not research the opinion (poll) of Gamers / Players about using Cheats... :dunno:

I can express my reasons and also other reasons why many Gamers / Players have used Cheats (at least from my point of view):

• Doing something repetitive such as raising your Character Level or Skills can be very boring! I like to do Aerobic Physical Exercises (Running, Jogging, Spinning), because they relax me and cause euphoria or happiness. XD On the other hand, Anaerobic Physical Exercises seem so boring... *yawn* :yawn: :sleep: Johnny Bravo!?
• Unfortunately, many adult people do not have a lot of free time to play games. And while playing games in the rare moments of their free time to do something repetitive such as raising their Character Level and / or Skills would be very discouraging, right? Imagine me practicing Physical Exercise at the Gym (Fitness Club) without TV, Music! The Environment would be certainly very barren, arid and dull there! :sick:
• Perhaps many adult people may be interested only in one or more Aspects of the game, but not necessarily the Whole game. :dunno: I like Story, Characters, Music, Moments of Action, Cut-Scenes, etc., but I dislike Scenes of Pursuit, Escape, Driving Vehicles, Scenes in which there is “Timer”, etc. in which any mistake could ruin everything! Retry? :smugulon: :roll: I can enjoy just Part of a Movie and skip some Scenes, right?
• I personally just want to have fun, without too many Complications, Stress, Adrenaline when I want to play games during my Moments of Recreation. Complications, Stress, Adrenaline, etc., all those I leave them to real life in our Daily Responsibilities as People, Employees, Family, Citizens, etc. Now, playing games during the Moments of Leisure, I want to be really free without any complications. After all, our life as an adult is already complicated. Why bring more complications in our Recreation Moments? I leave it to the Professional Gamers (there are many on YouTube and Tournaments!) who live and make money playing games, but that is certainly not for me. :nono:
• Etc.

Mystvan
31-01-2019, 03:30 PM
Well, I know that. :OK:

That is why I mentioned Players / Gamers in Plural. I did not want to demonize you... It is because I am very sensitive on this matter... :sick: And I feel like a lot of Gamers / Players see it as something reprehensible.... Well, at least that would be my impression... Perhaps I may be completely mistaken... After all, I do not research the opinion (poll) of Gamers / Players about using Cheats... :dunno:

I can express my reasons and also other reasons why many Gamers / Players have used Cheats (at least from my point of view):

• Doing something repetitive such as raising your Character Level or Skills can be very boring! I like to do Aerobic Physical Exercises (Running, Jogging, Spinning), because they relax me and cause euphoria or happiness. XD On the other hand, Anaerobic Physical Exercises seem so boring... *yawn* :yawn: :sleep: Johnny Bravo!?
• Unfortunately, many adult people do not have a lot of free time to play games. And while playing games in the rare moments of their free time to do something repetitive such as raising their Character Level and / or Skills would be very discouraging, right? Imagine me practicing Physical Exercise at the Gym (Fitness Club) without TV, Music! The Environment would be certainly very barren, arid and dull there! :sick:
• Perhaps many adult people may be interested only in one or more Aspects of the game, but not necessarily the Whole game. :dunno: I like Story, Characters, Music, Moments of Action, Cut-Scenes, etc., but I dislike Scenes of Pursuit, Escape, Driving Vehicles, Scenes in which there is “Timer”, etc. in which any mistake could ruin everything! Retry? :smugulon: :roll: I can enjoy just Part of a Movie and skip some Scenes, right?
• I personally just want to have fun, without too many Complications, Stress, Adrenaline when I want to play games during my Moments of Recreation. Complications, Stress, Adrenaline, etc., all those I leave them to real life in our Daily Responsibilities as People, Employees, Family, Citizens, etc. Now, playing games during the Moments of Leisure, I want to be really free without any complications. After all, our life as an adult is already complicated. Why bring more complications in our Recreation Moments? I leave it to the Professional Gamers (there are many on YouTube and Tournaments!) who live and make money playing games, but that is certainly not for me. :nono:
• Etc.





I was thinking and analyzing my own behavior (analytical self-criticism).



I believe that since I had a very complicated, turbulent, traumatic family background from Childhood to Adulthood until very recent years dealing with all possible complications in Personal Family Relationships in real life (fights, divorces, separations, illnesses, deaths, etc.), I think that (and maybe my brother too) I (we) am (are) demanding that in my (our) leisure moments that the stressful situations and complications are minor where possible, whether using Cheat Codes, Trainers, Save Game Editors, Walkthroughs, etc. :sunning:

I do not know if the other Gamers / Players who regularly use Cheats in their most varied forms and ways have also had this traumatic past. Or the reasons for them could be the ones I listed in the previous post above or any other reason that I am not aware of. :dunno:

In short: I have been through many difficulties in real life and will not admit that I go through Stress, Boredom, etc. also in my moments of leisure and recreation. :wall: :hairpull: I had enough of them (Stress, etc.) in real life and just wanted fun in the digital life. :wall: :hairpull: After all, everything has limits and I deserve a rest in my moments of fun. :sunning:

Maybe it is for the reasons quoted above that I definitely do not really appreciate the Drama and Horror movies because I had enough of them (Stress, etc.) in my real life. :wall: :hairpull: It is not that I cannot watch them, but if it were possible, I would rather refrain from watching such movie genres. :nono:

Capo
31-01-2019, 05:10 PM
• Doing something repetitive such as raising your Character Level or Skills can be very boring!

Then dont play the Goddamn game :lame:

Smiling Spectre
01-02-2019, 11:49 AM
I was thinking and analyzing my own behavior (analytical self-criticism).


In short: I have been through many difficulties in real life and will not admit that I go through Stress, Boredom, etc. also in my moments of leisure and recreation. :wall: :hairpull: I had enough of them

Huh. Ok, point taken. Still, I would get less stressful _games_ then. ;) Not much of them actually too hard nowadays, and those are usually emphases on hardcore, so no much use of cheats on them anyway. In my opinion. But... ok, I can respect your point of view, thank you.

Maybe it is for the reasons quoted above that I definitely do not really appreciate the Drama and Horror movies because I had enough of them (Stress, etc.) in my real life. :wall: :hairpull:
Huh. I don't like such movies too, exactly because the same reasons: I don't like to be scared or other emotionally stressed, I have enough of this in real life, thank you. But it means that I don't play scary games - not skipping scary moments in them.Again - ok, it's your right, I can take your answer.
Then dont play the Goddamn game :lame:
This is exactly my thoughts. :D So I tried to get answer "why". Let's name it "semi-successful". :)

Mystvan
01-02-2019, 03:58 PM
Then dont play the Goddamn game :lame:







Huh. Ok, point taken. Still, I would get less stressful _games_ then. ;) Not much of them actually too hard nowadays, and those are usually emphases on hardcore, so no much use of cheats on them anyway. In my opinion. But... ok, I can respect your point of view, thank you.






Huh. I don't like such movies too, exactly because the same reasons: I don't like to be scared or other emotionally stressed, I have enough of this in real life, thank you. But it means that I don't play scary games - not skipping scary moments in them.Again - ok, it's your right, I can take your answer.



This is exactly my thoughts. :D So I tried to get answer "why". Let's name it "semi-successful". :)



Phew, now I am far less busy than before so that I can breathe quietly. *Phew* *Whew*

OK. Opinions and divergent viewpoints registered. :argue: On the other hand, my opinion and the other users of Cheats (Walkthroughs, Trainers, Savegame Editors, Cheat Codes, etc.) probably are the same. :)

Although our opinions are irreconcilable and antagonistic, :swordfight: I will respect yours. And my adopted stance will remain so before, now, and after. So my opinion was, is and will be the same as before. :max: