Caesar II

[Kosta]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/141)

[Hellblade]

it says "file not found - code1" no matter where i run it, Dosbox or WinXP

[Kosta]

You need to press 2 after starting the game when it asks for CD options.
It works fine, I re-tested it

[Tom Henrik]

I don't know if this helps, but...

When I dowloaded the game for the first time I stored it on my C:\ (Same as DOSbox)... It worked without problems of any kinds.

Then I moved everything to my D:\ and the game refused to work. DOSbox gave me the exact same message as the one mentioned above.

So I moved it back to my C:\ again, and it worked again.

[Data]

*works* in win2k as well.

for me the mouse will only go halfway down the screen before it just stops, like its hit the end of the screen.

any ideas?

try this
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=1059

it seems to reprogram the mouse a bit.

[Mr.Peskapoe]

I'll let you guys in on a cheat, or rather an exploit, I discovered. When you get a promotion decline it and wait another 10 years for the next one, in the mean time raise your own wage to whatever your city economy can handle. By the time your offered a promotion again you should have an enormous personal fortune, the thing is you get to keep it and when you choose your new province you'll be able to donate your entire fortune to your city. :D :D

Using this exploit I nearly finished the campaign at the hardest settings, I think I won over 20 provinces.

Also, I belive pressing "A" will speeds the game up, it'll make those 10 years pass ALOT faster.

[DSmidgy]

I uploaded the PL8 files to x (http://x)
I will take it down in few days.

It's rar file renamed to zip. Winrar should opened it without renaming.

EDITed on 12th January 2006: New download link.
Megaupload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NSJ2M5UH)

[Jman4117]

If it's just not colored correctly, try it in 256 colors.

[j713]

Anyone gotten the sound to work for C2? I'm eternally grateful to finally have found all the Pl8 files that I was missing, but as I recall, the sound just makes this game!

In fact, side note, kinda funny story, but the reason I decided to start playing again after a 5 year hiatus is because I made a joke with my firends (in the C2 voice) "more plebs are needed!" :P none of them got it, so I HAD to show them C2...but the sound don't work!! AGGGHHH....well I digress...sound not working= Baaaad....

Also, how could this game only get a 3/5? The editor got it right...this is one of the best games gameplay wise I've ever played. Seriously, SimCity with battles+provincial mode+ conquering Europe...what's not to love? I even like the fact that the battles are on plains instead of complicating things with too much terrain (I'm thinking of Medieval total war) The only problem with this is the hassle of playing it on XP... It's the best simulation/empire game I've ever played?

Finally, for those of you who've played it, how does C3 compare? Iss there a provincial mode? Are battles still with full units instead of individuals (aka C2 style compared with Warcraft/C&C style)

shoot ...late for work

Thank you for any help with the sound!

j

[Guest]

:bye:
I agree re C2, thereare a lot of subtle and great aspects to the
way you advance in the game, based on how well you plan
and build your cities, having the different buildings arranged in
a way that allows transport and access, and needed supplies, and
the overall many different aspects of the game make it complex
yet playable. A great game. Mirabile visu [great to behold]

Maybe the version up on the site does not have speech files?
Not sure. I havent played the version up here. Will check it out
later today.

Audentes fortuna juvat [Fortune Favors the Bold!] :cheers:
:king:

[Microprose Veteran]

Well, I think there's only one basic city center design.

Place the bathhouse at the center. On its diagonals, put 3x3 blocks. On its horizontal and vertical sides, put fountains and temples.

Next, a road surrounding the bathhouse + fountain + temples.

xxxvvxxx
xxxvvxxx
xxxvvxxx
vvvoovvv
vvvoovvv
xxxvvxxx
xxxvvxxx
xxxvvxxx

x = residential
v = temples, fountains, forum
o = bathhouse

Keep open spaces for the arena, circus and schools around this road. Watch that police and markets are not too close to the inner residential areas. Both hospitals and libraries can be on the edge of town, even next to industrial zone, just as long they're connected by road and have forum access. The smallest forum is cheap to build so don't be afraid to toss in a few.

If you do it correctly and all goes as planned, those 3x3 residential zones (xxx) will turn into four beautiful palaces.

For a bigger city: same trick I used in Simcity: build just another such a citycenter, connecting it by road to the other center.

[DSmidgy]

I didn't use zip because rar compresses much better and that is vital if you have a very slow connection.

I had to rename the file to the zip ... because my web server won't allow downloading .rar files and I couldn't change that from the remote location. I changed that - rar file (http://x).

The .pl8 files are uploaded to the abandonia server and I messaged the admin (TomHenrik) but there was no reply.

I just tryed to opened the .rar.zip file directly with winrar and it works fine. No renaming needed (it can be difficult if user doesn't know how to disable the hiding of file extensions).

EDITed on 12th January 2006: New download link.
Megaupload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NSJ2M5UH)

[Christian IV]

:bye: :bye: :bye:
Hi Patriot,

go to

www.win-rar.com

and you can download it on a free
trial and it does a GREAT job, it really gets things un compressed
in a superior fashion and it opened up the files that DSmidgey
had up for us to help fix the Caesar II files. Worked great for
me downloading.

enjoy

:ok: :king:

[Guest]

:bye: :bye:

What I did was to transfer the pl8 files into a new copy of my
master Caesar II files, I always save a master copy of game files
when making adjustments just in case.

The win rar asks you if you want to replace files, and if you say
yes, it will then over write the old files with new copies and at the
same time will put in the new files that are missing, hey presto,
voila, veni vidi vici....you are ready.

cheers and enjoy

and yes, thanks a lot DSmidgey, you are a hero :angel:

Long Live the Empire!
Valle :ok: :ok:
:king:

[NerXzuL]

Greetings
I'm little confused , from where i can download this game - Caesar II
Instead of option "GET IT" is there a "ESA"
Can somebody advice me how to download this game

Sorry for getting yor precious time

[Strobe]

as you've already noticed, there's no way to get CEASAR II on abandonia
since it's ESA-protected. please bear in mind, that obtaining this game
violates its copyright!

[Kreepah]

it says the baths need access to pipes .. how do i build pipes, also how come my fountain has no water?

also can someone explain some useful basics to me?

[Doc Adrian]

I will get back to you on that.
But I believe pipes are made with the aquaducts function and you need pleb labor to get the water going

[Christian IV]

:blink: \
How do you access the overlay to see what the coverage for
a reservoir is? does anyone know the controls for that?

water is very important for Rome, glad they included this
in the game

I am warming up on Centurion and hope to be ready for
Caesar soon :ok: :ok:

:ok:

[Microprose Veteran]

From the roll down menu in the right hand corner, select water (it is on geography at first).

Next, press the colored 'cards' next to this roll down menu and continue pressing the button. Now you will see the overlay of water utilities on the big map.

Water access: this is basic water access and is suited only for small workers' houses in industrial areas. On the map this is marked as blue.

Pipe access: you need this for your bigger buildings and fountains and bathhouses. Color is red at first (no water flowing yet).

When you speed up time, you will see the red color turn into purple, meaning the pipes actually transport water now.

It is recommended you stop time when in building mode. When you've build everything you intended to, speed up time to see the buildings grow and water flow. :cheers:

[bruno]

someone can tell me if it is a good game for playing before i download?

[Doubler]

It's a good game. Actually, I said that before; three posts above yours :D
But really, those who disliked the first Caesar should still try this one. It really is a lot better.

[Sebatianos]

Well Caesar was made both for Windows and DOS, so you might wanna run the DOS version under DOSBox. It works flawlessly (just install DOSBox and install the DOS version of Caesar II).

[DSmidgy]

One user contacted me, that the link for dolwnloading PL8 files ain't workin' any more.
So here is a new one (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NSJ2M5UH).

[punch999]

PL8 what is that?

[DSmidgy]

With these files, battles will work.

[Guest_Mike]

I have a bit of a trouble. I tried to play Caesar 2 i XP but it woulden't work so I downloaded DOSBox. No problem installing and starting the game but I can't use the mouse. Anyone who could help me with this problem?

[Guest]

The sound isn't working for me. What do I have to set at the setsound? I have WinXP and running the game in DOSBox.

[Ting51]

ok, so I scewed up ... posted in the troubleshooting forum , then found this thread.
So, my question is:

Anybody gor the rel 1.1 patch for Dos Version of this game?
Sierra & Impressions no longer support this game ...
Dug it outta my files last week, installed it and am running just fine ...without any problems as most here seem to have.
Sound works, battles work, no video problems.

Here's "my" problem:
When playing campaign mode at the "Impossible" level, you need 20 promotions to become Caesar.
But with Pompous Maximus completing one province for each of yours, and that there are only 36 available provinces, you'll never make the required 20. Now with the patch, this was fixxed. and after becoming Caesar, you could play the "unavailable" provinces that Rome never conquered in real history.
A nice side note: after becoming Caesar and opting "to continue as Caesar" You never get asked for taxes on you personal treasury during game play - usually about 16% of your total wealth. This gives you the oppurtunity to build an enormous personal fortune.

Anyone help here would be greatly appreciated. Always loved this game.

[Phantom Imperator]

Not only do you not have to pay said taxes but the "Emperor" also always regards you as family, ten guesses why:crazy:



What is the largest realistic city everyone has built (realistic as in many blocks and not a "loop" or a "hook-line" city)... My largest is about 25-30 thousand people with no more room to expand



Also A quick question for anybody who can answer Why is C1 listed under strategy and C2 under simulation???

Edit: I forgot to mention that this is one of my favorite cbs of all time! seriously if you don't have a copy and you like the genre you should probably go and buy it, you won't be sorry.

[cagemalion]

Hey, I just wanted to know how to get this game started on a Windows XP. I have the CD, but I have no idea how to get it to work.

[Sebatianos]

Have you ever tried putting the CD in? The autorun should take care of it (unless you got some weird DOS only version). The game was made for both DOS and Win95, so it shouldn't be a problem (at least mine works fine).

[cagemalion]

I did put the CD in, I'm not a total idiot. My computer just won't read it. I can't find the original cd case, so I don't know if it is only DOS, though I see no reason why it should be.





If anyone can help, that would be great.

[Sebatianos]

Then maybe the CD is damaged. Sorry! You can try getting DOSBox and try to install the DOS version of the game (maybe that would still work).

[Phantom Imperator]

Originally posted by cagemalion@Mar 19 2006, 07:46 PM
I did put the CD in, I'm not a total idiot. My computer just won't read it. I can't find the original cd case, so I don't know if it is only DOS, though I see no reason why it should be.





If anyone can help, that would be great.
Unfortunataly this is a problem many people have. The disk either runs and installs just fine or it doesn't run at all. (either way without a dos emulater you can only play city-only mode)

Sorry, I don't know any solutions

If it makes anybody feel better Tiltedmill is coming out with caesar 4 later this year :Brain: for those that don't know impressions was stripped to it's bones then disbanded but many of the former employees responsible for the classic citybuilding series left before then and formed Tiltedmill. last year Vu-sierra asked them (rather exitedly) if they would make Caesar 4 and ofcoarse they said yes!

[Ting51]

For phantom: Of course you're regarded as "family" . YOU are caesar. LOL

as to the city size, It really depends on the map. If the river runs across from side to side, in a reasonablly straight line, and somewhere in the middle, then 40K is possible. Hard to get "Culture" ratings very high with that many people.
30K is usually do-able, and "culture" can usually be obtained to the 70+ mark.

However, I run the game with 20K on every province and can obtain 96 - 99 % Culture consistantly.


for cagemalion, my first piece of advice is to try and "explore" the CD. Open "My Computor" and click on the drive letter. If the CD can be read, then exploring the CD will show files and folders.
If this does not work, then your CD is damaged and you're Basically SOL. Sorry.


And for everyone else that has been having problems, I really have no good answers. I'm running XP. I opened a DOS Command Prompt, inserted the CD, ran "Autorun" and followed the DOS install process.
To run the game, I click START, RUN, and type the path\filename.
Everything works.

Back to phantom, do you have the update patch? Do you get the availabliity to "Continue as Caesar"?
email me; pls

I can send you some savegame files to show my city building plans to use property effectively. Or as effectively as I've been able to develop. LOL

[Phantom Imperator]

Im not sure if there is a patch or not, if there is you should still be able to download it from the official sierra website. If that's not the problem try playing on the hardest game setting

[Phantom Imperator]

I was on the Tiltedmill forums awhile ago and found an interesting thread, just so everybody knows old disks and 52x cdrom drives DON'T mix (duh) some poor fellow just had his c2 disk explode in his cd-rom drive :crybaby: I can see this becoming a problem in the not so distant future :not_ok:
here is a link to the thread www.Tiltedmill.com (http://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8827)

[The Fifth Horseman]

You might want to post that as a thread in one of the tech sections, preferably Compatibility.

[ope]

do u know how i could get that game?

[Japo]

There's a link to a page where you can buy it. Other than that would be non-abandoned piracy and you won't find that here. :)

[danicus]

Hello fellow old time gamers,

I recently was going thru my collection of games and ran into the Caesar's II & III. I tried loading C2 and - nothing - like so many of the posts here (yes, I read them all 1st - many of you should try that, it would save a lot of space as people tend to ask the same question over, and over, and over. Other people tend to ramble on in their post and you wonder -what is the point, if any, of this post ... you know what I mean? Still other people are less than helpful just posting smart @$$ comments like "ah... try putting in the disc." Well, anyway ...). C2 gives you the option of adding it as a DOS game so I did that. Didn't try too hard to run it in DOS mode (I'd have to go and get DOSBox again I supposed, and didn't want to hassle w/ it at that moment).

No biggy. I'll just slap in good old C3 and try it. Well XP didn't like that either. (I tend to blame XP for a lot of things). Went out on the net and found this link at the Sierra forum - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;324767 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767) - (it's a sticky there at Sierra- what a concept!?).

OK this is for C3... I know but, I tried what the link said and, I also turned off my anti virus program while installing C3 and -bahda bing - it installed no problem!

I went back and tried to install C2 again and it installed - no problem! So I don't know if it was playing around with the .cmd file stuff as suggested at MS, or simply turning off the anti-virus program during install that made it work (or both), but you peeps having trouble installing may want to try both ideas.

Sorry for the long post. Gotta' run now I have worlds still to conquer an' all... and apparently my plebes need me.

I sincerely hope this helps.

Danicus

[Guest]

For the people who have the CD and can't get it to work on XP, try this:

1) Load the CD and choose "Explore"
2) Open up the 'HD' folder
3) Open the file named 'PS'
4) Hit the space bar

This is what I did and the game played fine, except for one thing...

I CAN'T GET THE SOUND TO WORK!

It just isn't the same without it... Anyone figure it out yet?

[Christian IV]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 15 2006, 05:32 PM) 248752</div>


I CAN'T GET THE SOUND TO WORK!

It just isn't the same without it... Anyone figure it out yet?
[/b]

I am having the same problem but I am going to try running it in Compatibility Mode
for 95 tongiht, I just loaded it up last night and it ran fine, on my new WIN XP SP2 system which is my main games testing system, and it ran just fine, but no sound yet.

I am going thru this thread and will look over at tiltmill who is doing CIV this year I hear.
post if you find anything on sound in XP and i will too.

Hello to everyone, I have been away for awhile, long time actually, had life challenges, but it is nice to see everything is well here. cheers

[Guest]

I finally got the MUSIC to work... Still working on the the SFX... But here's what I have so far.

1)C2 likes to autorun and then quit and not work at all, forcing you to reboot and start over. When the install wizard asks you if you want to run sound/hardware tests, JUST SAY NO! It will say you failed all of the tests, and that you don't have minimum requirements, but you can still install it.

2)After installation, go to the C2 folder and choose "Caesar II Set Sound." Choose the configuration that will work for you.

This should get the background music working, which is actually just fine considering it changes with the mood of the game. At least you won't have to hear "PLEBS ARE NEEDED!" over and over...

[danicus]

Odd I can get it loaded and even play in all the different modes, but can't see any walkers. I would trade this for the sound problems any day 'cause the "plebs are needed" gets real old --- real fast.

[Christian IV]

It worked fine last night in both XP and using DosBox and DeFend to load it, with Doxbox andDefend, it worked with all the sound and animations, which was great but a little choppy re speed. I was glad to finally be able to see all of it. I was able to play it fine on one of my older machines, a WIN 98 SE with Soundblaster Pro Snd Card and it worked perfectly on that too, with all the sound and the movement of the game was normal on that one. I am not sure why you hve no walkers, but maybe you did not have enough of what they needed to walk for. I never did very well, my people kept rioting in the Tutorial City and I could not get enough houses to last near the workplaces so I did not make enough to pay the Emporer's tribute.......i may try again soon. Good luck.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(danicus @ Aug 17 2006, 03:03 PM) 249236</div>
Odd I can get it loaded and even play in all the different modes, but can't see any walkers. I would trade this for the sound problems any day 'cause the "plebs are needed" gets real old --- real fast.
[/b]

[Elena]

How many population is needed in order to get Prosperity 100%? I have 20.228 and Oracle says that I must increase my city's population. There is no space on the map :wallbash: .

[The Fifth Horseman]

If this game is anything like Simcity (and I think it is), then maybe it's not the population you need to increase but the ratio between population and other types of buildings?

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Elena @ Sep 28 2006, 01:28 AM) 257886</div>
How many population is needed in order to get Prosperity 100%? I have 20.228 and Oracle says that I must increase my city's population. There is no space on the map :wallbash: .
[/b]

I don't think population has anything to do with prosperity. Getting prosperity to 100% requires having a whole bunch of palaces, and filling your coffers through taxes. Only culture is hardest to get to 100%, the others are all attainable.

[Guest]

again, how do you configure the music in the setsound.exe
the sfx are working just fine, but there is no music!

i'm using dosbox on winxp

[The Fifth Horseman]

Sound Blaster 16, IRQ 7, DMA 1, Adress 220h.

[arkanis]

hmmm, it won't work but thanks anyway

i'll try to do some research on my own, but is there anything i have to change in the dosbox.conf file?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Try changing the soundcard emulation to "sbpro2", and the game's sound config to use Sound Blaster Pro. Might just work.

[arkanis]

sound blaster 16 works ok, but i'm really interested in the midi music. I've tried all the different sound drivers and what you said but it still wont work.

There is a [midi] section in config file. should i change anything there?

thanks for the effort

[The Fifth Horseman]

Midi should work without any problem at the default settings.
Are you sure the BGM is supposed to be in MIDI and not as CD-Audio tracks on game CD?

[Anguille]

I just reinstalled the game and got it to work under XP:

Compatibility Mode:

Windows NT 4.O (SP 5)

NO CHANGE in the display settings!

Cheers...

PS...does someone know if i can run the game without the cd? thanks

[The Fifth Horseman]

PS...does someone know if i can run the game without the cd?[/b]
What you are looking for is called a "no-cd crack".

[Anguille]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Feb 22 2007, 02:23 PM) 280447</div>
What you are looking for is called a "no-cd crack".
[/b]

It sounds so bad when you say it...

I have the game which i bought 12 years ago, but i travel a lot and i don't want to take any risks (break, stolen) with it...that's why i am asking...guess i'll just make a copy of the cd-rom (no cd-crack but a cd-copy...isn't that ironic?) :whistling:

[The Fifth Horseman]

(no cd-crack but a cd-copy...isn't that ironic?)[/b]
Far less than it looks like.

[Anguille]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Feb 23 2007, 12:57 PM) 280639</div>
(no cd-crack but a cd-copy...isn't that ironic?)[/b]
Far less than it looks like.
[/b]

You don't talk much, do you? ;)

[The Fifth Horseman]

I'm too busy for that. :P

[Grunf]

Can somebody re-upload the pl8 file or send it to me on [BEEEP]@yahoo.com. Thank you.

[Elena]

[/quote]
I don't think population has anything to do with prosperity. Getting prosperity to 100% requires having a whole bunch of palaces, and filling your coffers through taxes. Only culture is hardest to get to 100%, the others are all attainable.
[/quote]
But Oracle says I need more population for more prosperity. I had 20K population. I had ONLY palaces. I had 69K money and Culture 100%. Half of my city was built with temples and theatres in order to get Culture 100% :D . But I couldn't get Prosperity more then 88%.

[Guest]

The higher your population, the harder it will be to maintain culture at 100%. Try to build palaces (for prosperity), and then surround them with entertainment and worship structures (for culture). Also, I would build libraries and hospitals in a completely different area (make a ton of them too... also for culture).

[Guest]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2404/perfectcitycaesar2yx9.png
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1636/100kpopulationstablevm6.png

[Elena]

Cool. Population 100000 – it’s impressive. But I ask about Prosperity, not about Culture. Do you have Prosperity 100% in your city? Can you show me Oracle screen from your game, please?

[Guest]

Well, I mean if you can get your population up, you will increase your prosperity as well. Population (number of palaces) is correlated with prosperity... but consequently lowers your culture rating because you will have fewer culture buildings servicing each person in the same area.

[Guest]

I got Caesar 2 workin great(sfx works, but not the music... who cares?) and I enjoyed building a humble city on my Windows XP, which' i've never done since i had my Windows 95, which was 5 yrs ago... I installed Caesar 2 for DOS and used that DOSBox to play it.

Anyways, I had an army of 193 light infantry and 60 slingers sent to attack a weak barbarian tribe/settlement, and as I clicked the button to take charge of the battle myself, it crashed to the DOSBox window with the following written down:

Error loading battle data - RO2SWDA.PL8 not found.
C:>

Can someone tell me what's this about and if possible, how to fix it? Thx.

[Guest]

well, nevermind...

I just figured that when I installed the DOS version of Caesar II(my cd can install for both Windows 95 and DOS), for some odd reason most of the .PL8 files weren't copied onto my computer. So i went to manually explore the CD and found a folder entitled PL8, from which I copied and pasted the .PL8 files into my computer, and 'Lo and Behold, the battle worked.

PS: I set conscription to 50%... good battle, but the people didn't like it and rioted. I wish i could glitch it so conscription wouldn't have any drastic effects.

[Guest]

I think you can solve the problem by having really tight security in the city, ie. a prefecture every 6-9 squares or so.

[Guest]

Here's the oracle's ratings. The colours were off because I wasn't playing with 256 colours.

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100koraclehc4.png

Replace the x's with t's... I can't figure out how to post a link without the reply window screwing up.

[Elena]

Here's the oracle's ratings. The colours were off because I wasn't playing with 256 colours.

O-o-o dear, at last, thank you :kosta: It means that I really need more population. I thought it was bug.
Now I see that one must make choice between Prosperity and Culture. I don't think that it is possible to get all 4 stats 100%.

[_r.u.s.s.]

@ Jun 16 2007, 05:53 AM)
Here's the oracle's ratings. The colours were off because I wasn't playing with 256 colours.

[img=hxxp://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6051/100koraclehc4.th.png] (http://hxxp://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100koraclehc4.png)

Replace the x's with t's... I can't figure out how to post a link without the reply window screwing up.


http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=100koraclehc4.png

you cant place a link as the first thing you put in your message

[Guest]

ah, gotcha, russ.


I THINK getting 100% in all areas is possible, but you have to really balance your city out. I focused solely on population so my culture rating suffered.

I believe on the last level done in the hardest setting, you have to get 95% of each rating in order to become Caesar... so 100% in each sounds plausible.

[qwertyu]

Anyone who can share some battle strategies?

I can't seem to get the hang of it.

Usually i put up light armor up front backed by whatever i have of missile units, and then pump in the heavier armor/auxilliary. This often proves just wrong...

And IS there a benafit of donating tribute to the emperor?

[Leo]

I really need the latest patch for caesar ii , maybe ver 1.1 , can anyone show the link please? Seems there are some bug in ver 1.0

[Guest]

Try placing Heavy Infantry at the vanguard, they are your foot soldiers that can take the brunt of the attack. Slingers and archers, of course, should be in the rear. I don't think Light Infantry should be used at all. There will be casualties, no doubt about it, but the Heavy Infantry can be replaced, whereas your Auxilaries do not get replaced (all the more reason for them to be in the forefront).

Giving bribes to the emperor increases favor, but won't stop you from losing the game after 2 years in debt. If you are in good favor, your tribute to him will be lower, and therefore will be taxed less.





The patch for Caesar can be found in an online search... I forget where though. There are a ton of Caesar II fan sites that have the patch still, but you'll have to do a little search since they're buried beneath the Caesar IV fan pages.

[daniel]

I need the PL8 files for C2 specifically for the battles ro2swda.pl8

Does anyone have them I've tried downloading the game from 3 different sites none of them contain all the PL* files. please reply or send them to [BEEEP]@yahoo.com thanks

[Leo]

I really need the latest patch for caesar ii , maybe ver 1.1 , can anyone show the link please? Seems there are some logical bug in ver 1.0

[_r.u.s.s.]

i think there is no way in hell you will find ceaser 2 patch online now. try contacting sierra?

[The Fifth Horseman]

No way in heaven, nor in hell. But one in the cyberspace.

A 1.01 patch for the Windows version can be found at http://www.patches-scrolls.de/ .

[Guest]

I have a downloaded version of this game... :O

I have everything in C:\Caesar II

I run PB.exe and press space and nothing happens... PB.exe just closes... I set it to run in 95 compatibility and all it does it open to a black screen and does nothing. (I have to alt+tab and close it.)

How do I run the game through DOSBox?

I got everything and it's mounted but I don't know the actual command to run the thing ROFL.

[Guest]

^ nvm :D

[Guest]

Hello, I have C2 from a cd, and it works just fine on my xp without any mods! :)
But there is one problem, please let me know if you find it>
In campaign mode, it doesn't allow me to control my fleet!!
If anyone knows about this, can you tell me right away?

[Guest]

I think that's a glitch with the game, you can't control your army unless you play with Win95/98

[vincent25]

why appear the sign "no go"?
why i can't download the game?

[Dave]

It's protected by the Entertainment Software Association.

http://www.abandonia.com/themes/abandonia/nogo.gif

We can't allow the download at Abandonia.
Read the FAQ (http://www.abandonia.com/en/faq).

[rafinha_usa]

i downloaded the dosbox, but how do i get the game?

[Dave]

Oh crap...read my previous post.
We can't provide links to protected games.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2572/martellointestasu1.gif

[RIPclass]

Very nice(old version;)) games!:)

[Annepannemix]

Hey:)
I have this game on a cd, and I have tried to run it in dosbox (after extracting all files to c) but I cant get it to work...anyone know what I must do???

[_r.u.s.s.]

why wont you mount your cdrom in dosbox and run it from there? (mount <stuff..> -t cdrom

[Annepannemix]

I was told it would not work that way, but I will try...but how do I mount my cdrom in dosbox, I cant get it to work??

[_r.u.s.s.]

mount x: y:\ -t cdrom
x is virtual, y real drive.
but if you was told it would not work that way, why won't they tell you how it will?

[dosraider]

I was told it would not work that way, but I will try...but how do I mount my cdrom in dosbox, I cant get it to work??
I think the CDRom version is a W95 version, with a Win installer.
Don't know if you can get the CD version running in dosbox.

The dosversion of CaesarII is on floppies.-(that one works in dosbox)-

[dosraider]

[UPDATE]
Found my ol'C2 CD, the Win95 updated version.
The CDrom version of CaesarII works fine in dosbox.
It has the Win version but also the Dos version on it.

Mount a virtual C,
Mount your CD as D and run INSTALL , not setup, that's the win applic, won't work in dosbox.

Accept C:\Caesar2 as install dir, after the files are copied you get sound setup,
I choosed (on a default dosbox config):
Midi: SB16, auto config
Digi: SB16, autoconfig.
'Done'
Input C2 in your C:\caesar2 dir to run the game, works flawless.

[Aurez]

Finished five levels Corsica & Sardinia, Sicilia, Achaia, Thracia and Cyrenacia in that order. Next time I play I'll move onto Aegyptus. If my suspicions serve me correctly, it will take me 2 re-plays to conquer the provinces the Empire takes over, can anyone confirm this?

The strategy I use is a 11x 11 block of roads (eventually plaza), with at least the middle of one stretch of road 2 spaces away from the river. 2 reservoirs are built till one touches the middle of one length of road (to supply fountain). A fountain is placed in the middle of the 11x11 block. The plaza around the fountain is one NW, N, NE, E etc around the fountain till the 8 directions are covered. Then plaza is built from the south , west east and north till they reach the center of each stretch of road of the 11x 11 block.

Houses are built in the corner of each quadrant, in a L-shape pattern. This is down with a 2 house thick border that surrounds the outer perimeter of each quadrant. It should be continuous, except the plaza in the middle. In the 3 remaining squares of each quadrant is placed one garden and 2 shrines. The garden is placed outermost from the center and in the middle of the 2 shrines. The shrines can be destroyed when the housing develops to 4-square dwellings (the one after villa). I still haven't figured out how to get to large palaces without adding small outward branches of road from the 11 x 11 block.

I used this strategy for every level, save Corsica&Sicilia. It only took me 2-3 of these 11x11 blocks to pass each level. As well as trade and industry of course.

Edit: Heres a screenshot depicting the above explanation.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/Source-Era/BlockofAverageDomus.png

[mkeller]

I bought Caesar II at a resale shop a while back, in the original (though slightly worn) box with the CD and manual and everything. I had some difficulties getting it to work in DOSBox, but after following dosraider's tutorial, it works fine! Only with on exception - it is necessary to mount the CD the way _r.u.s.s. said, and it does not work to extract the CD files to a folder or mount the CD the way you do filesystems. Otherwise, the installer doesn't ask you where to install it to, it just sets up the mouse, tells you to send in your registration card, and exits.

And does anyone know what the purpose of SIERRA.EXE is? When I run it, it says that it encountered "ERROR 99: Error loading resource 999.pal ..\restype.cpp(56)".

And it's interesting to see that Caesar II was written in C++ . . .

[Ironlion]

Sierra.exe was a utility sierra used to put all install/tech support stuff together in one executable, and it was supposed to be used for all their games at the time... I believe outpost used the utility as well. It did system requirements checking and all that. Iirc it was an executable for windows 3.x, which explains why you cannot run it in XP

[jrhg13]

Hey i have a problem, can anyone help me?

When i try to play the game with the campaign option enabled, after i've selected a province to play with, the main menu pops out of nowhere and i have to select again "new game" etc etc, until i have to select province again and the whole show again and again. And if i close the menu that appear, the game quits. Please i need some help, i'm bored of playing the "simcity mode" of the game. Anyone??

[Lillmyren]

how do i download it wont start

[The Fifth Horseman]

It's not for download. Don't you see the "ESA - NO GO" icon or what?

[arete]

It's not for download. Don't you see the "ESA - NO GO" icon or what?

But surely if it's by Sierra Online, the Hell Freezes Over clause applies? Unless it was purchased by Tilted Mill or something? I mean, twelve years already... :weird:

{Hides in case horseman shouts something rude}

{or tries to kill me}

[_r.u.s.s.]

i see horseman was a bit exaggerating with the hell freezes over post

you are not being rude arete=P

[arete]

Hahaha, no, but I keep bugging him about checking the status of games that I like... :D

[arete]

It is being sold on Amazon. For forty dollars. Are they nuts? :weird:

http://www.amazon.com/Sierra-On-Line-Inc-Caesar-II/dp/B0007Z6TBW

[arkanis]

I'm playing the DOS version through DOSBox and the ingame music seems to differ from the Win version of the game. I tried switching all the different sound cards in setsound but the music is just not the same.

Since I cannot seem to get the Win version to run on WinXP, is there a way to extract the game music from the files on the CD?

cheers

[_r.u.s.s.]

try "general midi" or something like that. that should use your windows midi drivers, if you wish.

but you know, dos is the original... it is how it was meant to be

[arkanis]

I know, but the music in the Win version is just better.

[arete]

And it's been twelve years since it was released. Seeing as Sierra has left ESA, is this game still protected?

I'd love to get this one. Horseman? Please? :love:

[The Fifth Horseman]

Sorry, but there's still three new copies on Amazon. :(

[GTX2GvO]

Sorry, but there's still three new copies on Amazon. :(

Yeah, but +/- $40,-!!

When I bought this one in store it was something like €5,-

Caesar 3 probably won't go over €10,- in stores (if found)
AND Caesar 4 MIGHT come between €20,- and €35,- these days.. (@ best)

Like are they not scamming the deal??

[arete]

Finks! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Do they honestly think anyone will buy at that price? :weird: I'll go buy Caesar 4 somewhere.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Like are they not scamming the deal??
Not mine to judge, GTX.

[arete]

This is a description from a French website:

You know Caesar? Already three years ago, you incarnated the owner of a small province of avid Italy of expansionism, but for that it was necessary as well as possible to manage a city on the basis of nothing, provided with rather important savings. As in Sim City, you were to like the population by carrying out judicious choices, while placing the good masonries at the good places and especially by arranging them in such a way that they are used the ones for the others. Eh well, in Caesar 2, you will not have really the impression to deal with new software, but rather version 1.1, the actions to be carried out so much resemble each other…

:laugh: place the good masonries at the good places, now, you hear?!

[The Fifth Horseman]

Google translation, I hope?

[arete]

No - Abandonware Paradise :D

[DoomYoshi]

And it's been twelve years since it was released. Seeing as Sierra has left ESA, is this game still protected?

I'd love to get this one. Horseman? Please? :love:
My grandmother is going on a world cruise in January-April. If you can wait that long I'll have her bring my copy to South Africa. (no manual though)

[Urban fox]

Finks! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Do they honestly think anyone will buy at that price? :weird: I'll go buy Caesar 4 somewhere.

People pay a shocking amount of money for some of these old games, I got a copy of Caesar 2 for about £3 and that was a few years ago….I think I still have it laying around somewhere.

I remember it's pretty easy to bulid a rich, well-run city/province, however trying to get a few homes upgraded to max is a pain in the arse.

[mikeb84]

how do i download this game, i cant find the link on the page

[dosraider]

Why can't I download game X? What does "ESA Protected" / "NO GO!" / "NO 90!" mean? (http://www.abandonia.com/faq) <<< Click

[Ramidel]

Sierra's out of the ESA. Does that mean that this game can be unprotected?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Maybe.
We'll have to check if it's sold anywhere anymore. If not - it'll be up.

[Ramidel]

Maybe.
We'll have to check if it's sold anywhere anymore. If not - it'll be up.

Awww. But I want it naaaaaaaaao.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Sorry, but them's the rules.

[born_ablaze]

Anyone know if this game is being sold somewhere (other than E-Bay for a stupid price).

Thanks.

[born_ablaze]

Actually, looking above, does anyone know if the protection is gone and if it is off the market? Thus making it available to be posted?

[CrybKeeper]

Would thoroughly enjoy having this game join the unprotected ranks.

I still have the original game, the manual and a scanner. I can also post a link to a tutorial and other stuff for the game, Once I create it. I can also, post the solutions for this game with integers for placing buildings and developing your roman cities.

I am not much on battle stratagies though.

Hope I can help out with this game? It was my favorite city builder, at the time and should score pretty high marks, with a lot of the Abandonians.

EDIT: Sorry to be so ignorant of how this all works, but I actually have great skills with making contacts. Found this website last month, that shows the status of all sorts of filed copyrights. Was doing it for some radio stations and music copyright permissions, but wouldn't this work with finding games also? I know alot about copyright law, not all, but at least the general stuff and the internet.

Sierra games:

Always thought of Sierra, as user friendly, game developers. I can assure you, all their games will still play under WinXP, even the old ones. I came to depend on Sierra's games and have quite a few of them.

[born_ablaze]

Sweet... Any movement on this is good movement.

Thanks Keeper,

[Born_Ablaze]

Bump

[arete]

Bump noted. :)

[Born_Ablaze]

Thanks so much.

Many, many thanks.

Born_Ablaze

[Oskatat]

Caesar 2 back on! my old CD crashed, so this is good... I suddenly realize I must have a manual for this somewhere

ok... in vista i get the message "cant run this in full screen" when running normal, and in other cases (dosbox) I can't fight battles, slightly annoying. suggestions?

[olemars]

It's great that this game is back up. The download here on abandonia is incomplete though, it is missing a lot of files. Judging by comments earlier in the thread, this was a problem when the game was first offered up for download too. Would be nice if someone could upload a proper release to replace this one.

[Ramidel]

Also, the sound seems to be rather dead.

[CrybKeeper]

Just Dl'ed the game from here and will play around with it a bit. As I said before, I still have the CD for Ce2 and to be quite honest, haven't actually attempted an install on WIN XP, or Vista, since I also have Ceasar 3, which does play well on XP.

I have several PC's I can test it out on from a flash drive. Win2000ME Pro, XP, Vista. Might take some time.

[GenerousParasite]

I was on the Tiltedmill forums awhile ago and found an interesting thread, just so everybody knows old disks and 52x cdrom drives DON'T mix (duh) some poor fellow just had his c2 disk explode in his cd-rom drive :crybaby: I can see this becoming a problem in the not so distant future :not_ok:
here is a link to the thread www.Tiltedmill.com (http://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8827)


Not only old discs. I had a CD for Starcraft: Broodwar in my CD-rom. Actually it was a DVD rom when those were still new/rare. It blew up with such force that, I nearly shit myself, two, a piece of the plastic had forced its way nearly out of the rom case. It was wedged between two pieces of metal that I'd be hard-pressed to shove a flathead screwdriver into.

For those who have the CD (and for some reason don't want to download C2 online), try accessing the CD from a DOS prompt. Also you can try copying everything from the CD into a folder and try running it from there. You can also try finding the specific files online that you can't get off the CD. There are likely other possibilities too... like if you can only install a game partway, you could modify the config/registry to play the game despite glitchy/missing files/incomplete installation.

By the way, thanks VERY much for the pl8 files :) I can't wait to try out the battles!

[dosraider]

@GenerousParasite, simply create an image, use deamon or such for the ol'windows games and "imgmount" with dosbox.

.... I still have the CD for Ce2 ....
The original Ce2 has the dosversion on it, plays swell in dosbox.

[Guest]

Next, a road surrounding the bathhouse + fountain + temples.
xxxvvxxx
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xxxvvxxx
vvvoovvv
vvvoovvv
xxxvvxxx
xxxvvxxx
xxxvvxxx

x = residential
v = temples, fountains, forum
o = bathhouse

Roads surrounding the...? Like this?


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hhh=vv=hhh
hhh=vv=hhh
====vv====
vvvvoovvvv
vvvvoovvvv
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hhh=vv=hhh
hhh=vv=hhh
hhh=vv=hhh
====

[CrybKeeper]

As promised, I am playing around with the uploadable version of C2, here at Abandonia. So far, I could build a thriving village within the first year and re-aquainted myself with all the games features and functions.

Still haven't tried the battle mode yet, but more coming soon...

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr252/CrybKeeper/CeasR2x.jpg

The game does seem to work, if you install it to C drive, in a new folder named 'Ceasar2'. Drag the Batch file into DosBox desktop icon(image below)

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr252/CrybKeeper/c2batEXAM1.jpg

UPDATE: Have went on to create a successful province. Also, remembering how much more versatile C2's provincial design was, as compared to C3. Ceasar 3 put the details into the single city mode. Never have tried C4 from Tilted Mill. Although, I am a registered member of Tilted Mills forums and used to be quite active there.

Mish mosh, with no rhyme or reason, plus looming debt, image:

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr252/CrybKeeper/roma341qm.jpg

[LurkingGrue]

Can't get the sound FX or music to work, no matter what configuration I try (from the setmusic.exe, or whatever it was named, writing this from work, cannot check it). Reading this thread, I notice others have the same problem too, but I haven't seen a good solution to it yet. Any help would be appreciated.

[LurkingGrue]

Forgot to add, that I downloaded Caesar II from here (d'oh) and that I'm running it through DOSbox (v0.72), if that's relevant. (Yes, I know v0.73 is out, haven't upgraded yet. Will do soon.)

Sorry for the double post, but I cannot seem to be able to edit my posts for some reason. Why?

[_r.u.s.s.]

select creative labs sound blaster or 100% compatible and attempt auto config for both music and sound

[LurkingGrue]

I'm pretty sure I tried that already. I tried all the SoundBlaster options and each time the auto-config said it succeeded, but still there was no sound in the game. I'll check this once I get home.

[_r.u.s.s.]

well i am running dosbox 0.72, i did just do what i posted and it works

[El Quia]

Have you changed the default sound settings from the DOSBox configuration file? Have you tried manually setting the soundcard in the game?

[stengah]

I've finished with the 7 promotions and became a Caesar. Now, I tried everything in order to continue playing from there, but the game always goes back to main menu. When I hit ''new game'', nothing is conquered and I have to start all over. Is there a way to avoid this? (I started from Illiricum towards the north).

Thanks.

[LurkingGrue]

Curious. I had tried configuring the sound through DOSbox using DOS commands and it didn't work no matter what. Today (as a last ditch effort) I just double-clicked the setsound.exe and ran it through Windows, selecting the same configuration options as before... and now it works. Simple as that. Heh.

Anyway, thanks for your help guys!

My next question is, where is the 'any' key?! ;)

[stengah]

I've finished with the 7 promotions and became a Caesar. Now, I tried everything in order to continue playing from there, but the game always goes back to main menu. When I hit ''new game'', nothing is conquered and I have to start all over. Is there a way to avoid this? (I started from Illiricum towards the north).

Thanks.


Also, is there really no way to replay the mission? :lol:

[_r.u.s.s.]

Curious. I had tried configuring the sound through DOSbox using DOS commands and it didn't work no matter what. Today (as a last ditch effort) I just double-clicked the setsound.exe and ran it through Windows, selecting the same configuration options as before... and now it works. Simple as that. Heh.

Anyway, thanks for your help guys!

My next question is, where is the 'any' key?! ;)
you probably set the config file as "read only"

stengah: save game maybe? (but i'm not sure what you mean, i haven't played caesar)

[stengah]

Ok, small domus needs external security in order to upgrade, and to do so the city must be surrounded by a wall (including rivers) on the city level, right? I did it, but to no avail. Why is this happening, dammit?

[dosraider]

OS? You don't give much details .... *sigh*.
If Vista follow this to set up dosbox 0.73 correctly:
http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=19982
Seems to me you encounter a write protection fault.

[stengah]

No, XP. And I don't use DosBox either. That's the reason?

[stengah]

Problem solved. Thanks!

[dosraider]

You're welcome, enjoy the game.
:)

[Neiver the Reiver]

I've finished with the 7 promotions and became a Caesar. Now, I tried everything in order to continue playing from there, but the game always goes back to main menu. When I hit ''new game'', nothing is conquered and I have to start all over. Is there a way to avoid this? (I started from Illiricum towards the north).

Thanks.

On the first two difficulties, you complete your promotions, then that's it. From Normal upwards, you get to play on as Caesar, and the extreme provinces become unlocked too.

If memory serves me right, there is a glitch in that the impossible campaign cannot be properly completed because there are not enough provinces to earn all the promotions (with Pompous Maximus pinching two provinces for every one of yours).

[Oskatat]

actually, at that level they put you back at square one, but as mentioned, it is almost impossible to complete the game a second time since maximus is now working way faster than you. I think he is programmed to take certain provinces when you do not, forcing you to replay the game in order to experience all the various provinces

[Neiver the Reiver]

I'm sorry if it wasn't clear that I meant starting a new game at normal difficulty. But what happens after the final promotion is that you get the option to continue, you get taken back to the empire map and the new provinces are opened. I've just got this far having not played it for a while, I don't know if Pompous Maximus still conquers after this.

Anyway, at normal difficulty, as Pompous Maximus takes two provinces for every one you do, and it's impossible to get enough ratings to complete a level before he does, there are a couple of regular provinces left available in addition to the Northern challenge. But you need so many provinces to get to Caesar at impossible that you get taken back to the main menu when you achieve promotion and there are no more regular provinces left because either you or Pompous Maximus have taken them.

Also, Pompous Maximus takes random provinces, as long as they are adjacent to a previously conquered province. If you save before he takes one, load it and he won't necessarily take the same place.

[Oskatat]

Ok, small domus needs external security in order to upgrade, and to do so the city must be surrounded by a wall (including rivers) on the city level, right? I did it, but to no avail. Why is this happening, dammit?

did you take into account bridges? did you allocate plebs to maintain the walls? (if not, they degrade quickly). Finally, you have to wait a few months before the change becomes effective

[GoSu]

Hi,

i currently play this great game again, i just have a small problem/question. If i remember right, there was an Hotkey which you could hold and it speeded up the Game until you released it. I can't find this key anymore neither just a key to alter the Gamespeed. Hope one remember this and can help me :)

[dosraider]

A for accelerate if I'm not mistaken. (Been a while I've played it.....)

Couldn't you get he manual from rep docs...? Must check, I'll be back.....

[Edit].... Back.
Indeed: http://www.replacementdocs.com/
There you'll find the Caesar2 manual in PDF

Should you need a PDF reader google for "foxit".

[Milo55]

Before I move on to the campaign I've been playing city only mode trying to figure out the best set up for the city.

Everything is building up nicely,but when I get to 100 - 150BC the vigils start disappearing and internal security get's low,which after a while causes riots.The praefectures I built are all still there but no vigils,and I've tried building new praefectures but no new vigils appear.

External security is ok as I've built barracks along the walls and have soldiers patrolling the perimeter,and I always keep the number of plebs above what is required.

Can anyone suggest what might be causing this?

[Surgeon]

The download doesn't seem to work...

[The Fifth Horseman]

The file server which stores the downloads isn't working. We don't know what happened and are trying to reach the people in charge of it.

[Surgeon]

Why doesn't the game have any sound?

[_r.u.s.s.]

because it hates you :ouch:




do you run it via dosbox?

[Surgeon]

because it hates you :ouch:




do you run it via dosbox?

:omg:

Of course I do. The latest version.

[Saccade]

Change the game's sound config IRQ to 7.
or Dosbox's default to 5.
(works for me)
I prefer changing game settings.

[ed]
I'll add this game to the list of "need repacking with correct config".

[Surgeon]

Change the game's sound config IRQ to 7.
or Dosbox's default to 5.
(works for me)
I prefer changing game settings.

[ed]
I'll add this game to the list of "need repacking with correct config".

Thnx.

I haven't used DOSbox settings before, how do I speed up and down again?

[dosraider]

I haven't used DOSbox settings before, how do I speed up and down again?
Dosbox "readme" says CTRL+F11 CTRL+F12.
:)
http://dosbox.cvs.sourceforge.net/dosbox/dosbox/README?view=markup

874 ================
875 5. Special Keys:
876 ================
877
878 ALT-ENTER Switch to full screen and back.
879 ALT-PAUSE Pause emulation (hit ALT-PAUSE again to continue).
880 CTRL-F1 Start the keymapper.
881 CTRL-F4 Change between mounted disk-images. Update directory cache for all drives!
882 CTRL-ALT-F5 Start/Stop creating a movie of the screen. (avi video capturing)
883 CTRL-F5 Save a screenshot. (PNG format)
884 CTRL-F6 Start/Stop recording sound output to a wave file.
885 CTRL-ALT-F7 Start/Stop recording of OPL commands. (DRO format)
886 CTRL-ALT-F8 Start/Stop the recording of raw MIDI commands.
887 CTRL-F7 Decrease frameskip.
888 CTRL-F8 Increase frameskip.
889 CTRL-F9 Kill DOSBox.
890 CTRL-F10 Capture/Release the mouse.
891 CTRL-F11 Slow down emulation (Decrease DOSBox Cycles).
892 CTRL-F12 Speed up emulation (Increase DOSBox Cycles).
893 ALT-F12 Unlock speed (turbo button).

[jbull90]

I just rediscovered this game and am playing the version from this site, but every time I try to take command of my troops in battle mood the whole game shuts down. If the battle is auto resolved then its fine and I can continue playing but its not letting me play the battle mode, and that was always one of my favorite aspects of this game. Anyone know what going on?

[arete]

EDIT: feh, I actually don't have a clue. :ninja:

[Paco]

EDIT: feh, I actually don't have a clue. :ninja:

then dont post! What you did was a Spam!

[The Fifth Horseman]

I just rediscovered this game and am playing the version from this site, but every time I try to take command of my troops in battle mood the whole game shuts down. If the battle is auto resolved then its fine and I can continue playing but its not letting me play the battle mode, and that was always one of my favorite aspects of this game. Anyone know what going on?
I recall reading that only some versions of the game have the interactive battle mode.

[jbull90]

I recall reading that only some versions of the game have the interactive battle mode.

Then is there a patch or upgrade or files I can get for the interactive battle mode?
Ps i am playing version 1.0.

[Fubb]

Yea the on site version crashes when trying to control a battle.

HOW DO I GET MY PRESTIGE UP? Im making lots of sales and stuff and its not going anywhere, and says 'I need to turn a profit' even though i have lots of industries and markets and what not, and am makign quite a bit of money :mhh:

[Fubb]

Wait, i found a problem :mhh: all the industry places in my provinces (my mines, my farms, etc) all say 'needs road connection to city' EVEN though they are connected! IM NOT PRODUCING A THING right now :'(

[El Quia]

Wait, i found a problem :mhh: all the industry places in my provinces (my mines, my farms, etc) all say 'needs road connection to city' EVEN though they are connected! IM NOT PRODUCING A THING right now :'(

IIRC, walls in the province map can cut that connection... been a while since last I played, though, so I Can be totally wrong

[Fubb]

D: But theres little gates.... are you sure?

[El Quia]

D: But theres little gates.... are you sure?

No, I am not sure :p But I think that wall, even with the gates, broked teh connection... Let me make a quick search...


"Don’t Forget: A gate can cut off access between your city and provincial towns! I’ve seen this error made in city depository cities." http://www.caesar2.com/province-tips/

"Enemy armies are not very smart about moving around walls and tend to overlook the holes that are necessary to maintain economic connections." That seems to suggest walls cut those connections. http://www.mogelgott.de/database/pc/gamefaqs/525-caesar_2_faq_walkthrough.html

In fact, on that same link it says this: "Farms, mines, quarries, trading posts, border towns, and ports must be connected by road to the main city in order to work. The connecting road must not have any gates; gates are equivalent to breaks in the road"

So, no walls :p

I hope it helps you!

[Fubb]

Wow this game is SO fucking glitched >< im trying to enjoy it but the fact that even though my things are connected to the city and that tiles overlay eachother for whatever reason screwing things up is driving me INSANE

[El Quia]

Wow this game is SO fucking glitched >< im trying to enjoy it but the fact that even though my things are connected to the city and that tiles overlay eachother for whatever reason screwing things up is driving me INSANE

Don't even bother playing Caesar III, then :p

[Fubb]

dang, the series seems like it has such a strong background though :( if only it wasn't so glitchy! I dind't have these problems until i used provincial walls (this is the 3rd province I've been in, the other 2 i conquered easily without incident, and WITHOUT GLITCH!) and that was REALLY enjoyable, then this one and my stupid provincial walls through everytihng into hell >:[

[The Fifth Horseman]

Then is there a patch or upgrade or files I can get for the interactive battle mode?
Ps i am playing version 1.0.
According to one of the previous posters, this: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NSJ2M5UH unpacked into the game directory should fix the problem.

[Cheeky one]

I am running into a bug.

During gameplay a fire starts - after my prefects get to the scene and put out the fire I find half my city is gone that wasn't connected to the fire.

Just before typing this a barbarian attacker entered my city. The 'your city is under attack' popup indicator shows - *poof* - an entire chunk of my city and wall is gone and the barbarian proceeds to continue through my (once were) walls. :wall:

Any help/explanation here?

Thanks

[arkanis]

I am running into a bug.

During gameplay a fire starts - after my prefects get to the scene and put out the fire I find half my city is gone that wasn't connected to the fire.

Just before typing this a barbarian attacker entered my city. The 'your city is under attack' popup indicator shows - *poof* - an entire chunk of my city and wall is gone and the barbarian proceeds to continue through my (once were) walls. :wall:

Any help/explanation here?

Thanks

about the city disappearing - this doesn't just happen during fires, if you play the game a lot you will notice the estate value in some tiles starts to shrink for no apparent reason. Once the tile shrinks to the lowest value, the houses simply disappear, it's a bug i've experienced countless times.

I have no direct solution, perhaps more experienced gamers can provide it, you just have to wait a while and the land value will start to increase again.

[Pex]

I decided to give this game a go the other day and it just didn't 'click' for me. I actually remember spending nice time playing it back in 90ies, but perhaps the fact that I've played other similar games since (Pharaoh, Caesar III and even Caesar IV) that were much better imo made me not wanna play this one.

Just a note here that Caesar IV wasn't that great - too much micro management if you ask me.

[Oldskoolfool]

Hey, to start im playing from cd. If i dont use dosbox everything works fine other then it being way to fast. Dosbox fixes that but the then all the voices are choppy. Anyone got any ideas?

So i guess my question is anyone know how to make the voice not choppy in C2? and windows xp if that matters.

[arete]

Have you tried playing with your settings a bit? Try posting in the Troubleshooting forum for Dosbox help.

[Dry Mango]

I still own the original copy of this game. I never got too far in the game due to the fact that I wasn't that good at city building myself.

It certainly has it's flaws though. I had a better time with Caesar III, but still wasn't good enough to own palaces and have a good enough defense to hold back the enemy.

[Eagle of Fire]

Hello people.

One of my friends mentioned to me over MSN that he successfully downloaded Caesar 2 from this site. The archive however missed several or all battle files (.PL8) and is thus unplayable as soon as you enter a battle.

I am not really concerned about my friend since he is very computer savvy (he even told me he already have found and downloaded the files from another source) but if what he told me is true, the archive on AB for this game is either faulty or broken.

At first I thought that it was an issue between floppy and CD versions (and thus size), but it seems that the missing files are only a handful of megs more to add to the archive...

Would it be possible for someone to look into the matter please?

[dosraider]

Raises more the question why someone would prefer the floppy (or rip) over the CD version from the ISO cellar, seems the CD image is only some 31MB ....
Or even: why not put the CD image on AB in stead of putting it in the ISO cellar? 31MB ......

[Eagle of Fire]

I don't think it is the point.

If what I've been told is true, then we have a broken copy of the game... Which is unacceptable by AB standards.

[Oskatat]

I don't think it is the point.

If what I've been told is true, then we have a broken copy of the game... Which is unacceptable by AB standards.

legal advice, i still have an original copy of the cd. i think that allows me to download it legally, no? if so, point me to a place to upload it, since it's my game

(my copy acquired some bugs or damages)

[The Fifth Horseman]

More or less so.

[TotalAnarchy]

legal advice, i still have an original copy of the cd. i think that allows me to download it legally, no? if so, point me to a place to upload it, since it's my game

(my copy acquired some bugs or damages)

We need a preinstalled version, however.

[_r.u.s.s.]

well iso could be good too

[scorstin]

the game is still incomplete, I just tried it...doesnt work when you try to go into a battle, it crashes...missing some files. would it be possible to fix it? as someone mentioned here half a year ago, it isnt up to the usual Abandonia standard. and yet, it still hasnt been fixed...

[TotalAnarchy]

the game is still incomplete, I just tried it...doesnt work when you try to go into a battle, it crashes...missing some files. would it be possible to fix it? as someone mentioned here half a year ago, it isnt up to the usual Abandonia standard. and yet, it still hasnt been fixed...

Have a go at our ISO Cellar version then (http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=22629). We'll try to find a solution in the meantime.

[Scarlet~~]

I have downloaded the game and am running it in VDMSound. (DOSBox wouldn't install on my computer) However, I have an issue with the mouse. I cannot move the pointer past a certain point halfway through the screen, and have to move around the menu with arrow keys, a process that is very slow and frustrating. Is there any fix for this?

[unintendednostalgist]

Sorry to be a spoiler about a free game but are there any versions with the sound or is the sound available for download?

[jomboe]

What file do I need to open in order to run the game>?

[Japo]

What file do I need to open in order to run the game>?
C2.bat, or from DOSBox you can safely run PS.exe instead

[Festivus]

I downloaded the game from this site and ran it on dosbox, but didn't have sound. In dosbox, I mount the game directory to c, and type c2 to start it. From that same directory in dosbox, type "setsound" instead of c2. This will run the sound wizard. I selected soundblaster for both midi and digital audio, and now I have Caesar2 with all the glorious (though sometimes annoying) sounds.

A couple other tips for dosbox, you can edit the configuration file so that it automatically mounts the game for you. In windows 7 the file is at c:\users\<your username>\appdata\local\dosbox\dosbox-<version>.conf . If you can't see the appdata folder, click on the c drive, then click the Organize dropdown on the top bar of windows explorer, select "folder and search options" and check "show all files".

At the bottom of the dosbox conf file there is a section to put in commands for the program to run automatically, put your mount commands there and you won't have to keep typing them.

Alt and enter toggle between fullscreen and windowed.

Ctrl-f11 slows down emulation, ctrl-f12 speeds it up. By default it's 5 percent of up or down, but if you change the dosbox configuration file cycles setting from auto to a number (I found 10000 to be good) you can set ctrl-f11 and ctrl-f12 to increase/decrease by a number of cycles (I picked 1000) instead of a percent.

Hope this helps