Burntime

[Strobe]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review & Download (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/450)

[Chris]

I found out how to build these tools:


rat trap - screws, wood, wire
foot trap - tin pieces, spring, wire
hand pump - defective pump, hose, rags
mach. pump - spare parts, iron pipe, hose, rags

[Kon-Tiki]

Hammer Game (dunno if this's German or not), have spent many hours with this. I still don't know till today if you can assemble a car or not... Maybe somebody has a list of what all can be assembled and with what? (can't translate Her damit)

[Rogue]

I believe he is after list of all things that you can make. I had that list when I played this game back in first half of 90's.

Great game, but I was never able to finish it. Now I'll have a chance to do it. :ok:

[TaloN]

looks like an earlier fallout

[Rogue]

I believe that time is running in single player mode too. (at least in Amiga version did)

Is this mistake in review? :blink:

[Chris]

it runs in single player. i mentioned it once:

As the game starts you get to a setup window in which you can select the name, character portrait and flag colour for one or both players

perhaps this is a bit indistinct

[Rogue]

I was referring to this:


The top bar shows the remaining time you have for your turn, mainly of interest in hot seat mode however.

Game clock runs in a single player mode, and if runs all the way, another day of both resources (food and water) are being used.

[PrejudiceSucks]

How do you combine stuff and also wield stuff (knives etc.)?

[Chris]

to combine stuff put all needed parts into a building, then take a mechanic to that building and right-click on any of the parts. the mechanic will tell you, if he can construct anything out of the parts and sometines even what is missing.

to wield weapons put them into the inventory and activate them with a right-click. the activated weapon is marked with red borders.

[PrejudiceSucks]

Thanks :ok:

[Guest]

How on earth do I get started? After selecting a character portrait, clicking on sim. start does nothing. Please help :Tom:

[Rogue]

Type your name below the icon.

[Guest_Tom]

if i have an empty canteen how do i fill it at the water sources??

also do i eat and drink automatically? im still confised about the food and water system

[Whatson]

What is the skull for, and the bible?

Neither object can be sold or bartered for, the latter seems to be a unique item.

[Aphotic Atrocity]

The save feature does not seem to work, clicking on the button does nothing.

Multiplayer is mentioned, how do you go about it? There seems to be nothing in the start up of the game that allows you to.

Lastly, how do you "conquer" a "city"?

[arctangent]

Originally posted by Aphotic Atrocity@Mar 17 2005, 04:56 AM
Lastly, how do you "conquer" a "city"?
You conquer a city by
a) killing all enemies there (if any)

and

B) leaving a party member there.

This game is so awesome! :ok:

[Chris]

Originally posted by Guest_Tom@Mar 17 2005, 03:41 AM
if i have an empty canteen how do i fill it at the water sources??*

also do i eat and drink automatically? im still confised about the food and water system
you can fill your canteen, when you're at a source and it's still enough water there after drinking. put it inside the building and right-click it. you'll need:

2 rations for a bottle
3 rations for a canteen
5 rations for a water bag

you drink and eat automatically as long as you've got water or food in inventory.

The save feature does not seem to work, clicking on the button does nothing.

you have to assign a name for the savegame first. click on the bar reading ".gam", you can type in a name then. after that the save button will work.

Multiplayer is mentioned, how do you go about it? There seems to be nothing in the start up of the game that allows you to.

simply setup both players in the screen at the beginning of the game.

[Strobe]

hey bobbin, you almost seem to have put up a hotline for burntime! :)

very nice, i wish we could have such service for any game here... :whistle:

[bohor]

Burntime is a cool game, but a little tricky though. Never manaaged to stay alive for long. Always ran out of water or food...

[Chris]

Originally posted by Strobe@Mar 17 2005, 12:25 PM
hey bobbin, you almost seem to have put up a hotline for burntime! :)

very nice, i wish we could have such service for any game here... :whistle:
Thanks a lot! In business life this would be called after-sales-service. :angel:

[_\Magus/_]

Can somebody exlain me how to use the protective overall? i still can't go to radiative location thx.... great game by the way :whistle:

[Chris]

a complete protection set consists of suit, gloves, boots and mask. if you don't have all parts you will still suffer from radiation. but the suit alone should help a little.

[_\Magus/_]

so if i got a leather jacket on ( and i can't "put it on" like an arm ) it's gonna work as an armor?

and does someone knows how to finish the game? it seems i can't "kill" my ennemies

[Chris]

you can't actually kill your enemies, but prevent them from occupying locations by "blocking" them with your own men. the game is won when you've occupied a certain number of locations around the big cities. you can keep an eye on your progress in the status menu, which is accessable from the main map.

i never found out, if armour (leather jackets, trousers, steel helmets...) has any effect. also some other items like furs, tires etc. don't seem to have any practical use. these items are valuable for trade however.

if someone has experiences with armour items, it would be kind to post them here.

[Eagle of Fire]

I been using a protective overall for some time now. I thought it would protect me from radiation but I was wrong, it's a powerfull armor. I take at least half the damage from hits when one of my men (or me) got it in it's inventory.

It really shows.

[_\Magus/_]

Guys i found some "gold" in devil's rocks.... it's funny it worths nothing for trade (as if money doesn't worth anything in the wild future LOL) ... can we make some items withs it or what? is it some kind of quest ?

Maxime Landry
Québec (french canada)
:ph34r:

[Guest]

How do you gather things? I can see that in different areas there are snakes and bottles, etc. to gather but I don't know how to get them.

[Canno]

Is there any kind of list for what objects you need to make differnt things?

[Eagle of Fire]

Hi Magus. I'm from Québec also. :bye:

It's normal that cash is worth nothing since everyone is struggling to survive. Cash won't make you eat or drink so it's pretty worthless.

To "gather" things you need to first find them. Once this is done you left click on them to take them and/or right click on them to use/eat/drink them. Each member of your team can take up to 6 objects in their hands. I don't know if there is a team member limit but I never moved with more than two teamates anyways.

Tip of the day: use a doctor to travel around with you if you need more inventory space. Not only are your fighters more important to hold village around against the ennemy but the Doctor will heal your party members progressively as you walk around. This mean that if you have armor and a nice weapon you should be able to easily take over a village defended by only one guard and get healed by your doctor on the way back. A very nice 2 men team.

[Canno]

I have another question...
when looking at the info screen for a place that you own you see that with one person there you get maggots 1 day. does that mean that you get one a day? i asume it does not sure why i need to ask but i just cant not for some reson... anyway...

to improve how may maggots i get there if i leave a knife there the numbers goes up to 2 or 3 maggots day... but if i leave the knife in the building then if my man gets attcked then does he take it and use it? or does he need one in the building and one in his hand?

I know this might seem not to well written.. but its the best that i can do right now so... i hope its good enough :D


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I now remember why i wanted to know about the maggots and days thing.

it is this. if my man staying there has the knife in his hand, then under the info screen it shows the pic of the maggots then 1 days.

Now if i leave this mans knife in a building then at the info screen it shows the maggots and 2 days...

So my quetion is this. when it says x# then days does that mean that i get X# of maggots a day or does it mean that it takes X# of days to get 1 maggot.

I hope that clears up that mess i wrote up there ^ :whistle:

[Chris]

every gang member stationed at a location will use supplies normally, e.g. he needs 1DR food and 1DR water per day. this is no problem, as he can usually harvest 1DR maggots without tools. if you leave him a knife he gets 2DR and therefore a net amount of 1DR. so if the info screen says 4DR of meat, you'll get one piece of meat every 3 days.

(3days*4DRmeat-3DRsupport)=9 --> 1 piece of meat = 9DR

as long as you have only one occupant you'll do fine with that. but sometimes (at higher difficulty levels) you have to station more crew at certain locations. then you will need more (or better) tools and a water pump to satisfy your men's needs.

another problem with this is that you can harvest only one kind of food at a time, and the more tools you provide the less effective these can be used by your men (if you put one rat trap in a site, it will produce 3DR rats. two rat traps produce not 6 but only 4DR).

thus, the most important sites have a strategic location, can provide meat for food and have a medium or big water reservoir.


and you have to place weapons and tools separately. weapons in the fighters inventory and tools in the buildings. the knife is the only item that can be used either as tool or as weapon, afaik.

[_\Magus/_]

yeah eagle of fire my notice on gold was meant to be sarcastic :tomato: of course gold does not worth much in the spirit of the game... but how can i use it?

[Guest]

this might sound n00by, but how do i actually go into a city?

[Guest]

Got it ;)

[Guest]

I've tried entering a name for my save games, but they still don't show up. Is there something else that I'm missing?

[Hanzo]

How to Save:

1. Fist open "options" on main map
2. Move the mousecursor to "SAV" and leave it there
3. Enter a name for the sav. file
4. Leftclick on "SAV" whre you still have your mousecursor
And that's it really

There I've helped someone, now maybe some one can clarify to me
how to use medics? Do they treat me automaticly? Or do I have to wander
around the main map to get healed?

And a nother thing, the waterpumps, how do they work, and were do they work?
Do I just to leave them in any watersupply and they increase the amount of water
in that location? And is there a difference between manual and that other pump?

Thanks for a great game! (And hopefully some help to..)

[Eagle of Fire]

For the medics, I thought you needed to have them with you on your team so they could heal your but I am not sure anymore. I don't really know how to use them.

For the waterpumps, I used a hand waterpump to a location with only 1 water per day at the water source and it increased it to 3 a day. I think you need a natural water source tough. The indultrial pump must be better.

[Chris]

how to use medics? Do they treat me automaticly? Or do I have to wander

medics heal you automatically, if your constitution is over 50%. when it's below you have to go to a situated medic in a city. this counts for your gang members as well.

[_\Magus/_]

anyone knows what's gold for? and how about fur, bible and skul??

(i really can't stop playing this game, wich i find goddamn difficult, even at the easyest level)

and did someone notice that when you right click on a piece of food, it never gives you the same amount of daily ration... it's weird some time a piece of meat gives me 2 or 3 ration and somtimes it gives me 6 or even 9... same thing for the canteen : it cost 3 water to fill it, but it only gives me one DR of water when i use it.

Maxime Landry
Montreal, Québec
:ph34r:

[The Tasty Orange]

Can anyone tell me how to get food from an area where I have placed a trap?
:help:

[Chris]

and did someone notice that when you right click on a piece of food, it never gives you the same amount of daily ration... it's weird some time a piece of meat gives me 2 or 3 ration and somtimes it gives me 6 or even 9... same thing for the canteen : it cost 3 water to fill it, but it only gives me one DR of water when i use it.

you have a maximum of 9DR food and 5DR water. all DR food/canteens provide above these are lost. i suggest that you don't eat manually (per right-click) unless you need the space in the inventory.



Can anyone tell me how to get food from an area where I have placed a trap?

put the trap into a building, then leave a crew member in town and tell him to collect the type of food which fits to the trap (in the site's info screen). be aware that some locations don't provide all types of food or even no food at all.

[Guest]

I'm still having problems saving. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong. I places the cursor over the save option, then I typed in a file name, and then when I clicked on it, absolutley nothing happened. Am I missing a folder that it is trying to save to or should I be using the .exe or the .bat, or what?

[_\Magus/_]

you have a maximum of 9DR food and 5DR water. all DR food/canteens provide above these are lost. i suggest that you don't eat manually (per right-click) unless you need the space in the inventory.

i know that if a character as let's say 6 food and i give him a meat (wich is supposed to give me 9 DR) i won't be able to have more than 9 food... that wasn't what i was saying.

but i tryed this : the same character goes outta food. in the 2 cases he had 96% life. i feed him manualy with a piece of meat. One time that meat gave me 3 food the other time it gave me 9... and other times with another character a piece of meat gave me 6 more DR...

sometimes the bugs don't even get me a single ration :crazy:
i wonder if this could be a bug in the game

Max
Canada
:ph34r:

[Cross]

How do you get past the copy protection?

[Eagle of Fire]

There is no copy protection.

Type something and hit enter.

[Chris]

Originally posted by _\Magus/_@Mar 19 2005, 07:11 PM
you have a maximum of 9DR food and 5DR water. all DR food/canteens provide above these are lost. i suggest that you don't eat manually (per right-click) unless you need the space in the inventory.

i know that if a character as let's say 6 food and i give him a meat (wich is supposed to give me 9 DR) i won't be able to have more than 9 food... that wasn't what i was saying.

but i tryed this : the same character goes outta food. in the 2 cases he had 96% life. i feed him manualy with a piece of meat. One time that meat gave me 3 food the other time it gave me 9... and other times with another character a piece of meat gave me 6 more DR...

sometimes the bugs don't even get me a single ration :crazy:
i wonder if this could be a bug in the game

Max
Canada
:ph34r:
that's intresting, I've never noticed. :ok:

[Guest]

:help: I really need to save, but no matter what, it won't save! I've put the cursor over the save button, then I typed in a name, then I clicked on the save buton, but nothing happens! Does it matter if I use the .bat or the .exe? Is there a file that the game is trying to save to that doesn't exist? What is it? Please help me!

[Hanzo]

About saving...

OK I don't really know where the fault is...
But i cheked both the exe and the bat and they both work, then the save files are
saved to a folder in the burntime directory with the name burngame. Do you have this? Other than that I dont know what the problem could be? Soory I cnat help more maybe someone else?

[Eagle of Fire]

The problem lie in the interface. You need to click on save, then type a filename, then hit save again. The filename will appear in the screen up of the .sav command.

[Guest]

:ranting: It's still not working. When I click on the save button after I've typed in the name, it goes blank and just says "....sav" instead of the file name. This is really making me mad, but thanks for all the suggestions anyways.

[Guest_Rando]

Hey Max, my buddy noticed that food rations are shared among your team when someone eats. The difference you have observed between getting 9 DR and 3 DR probably depends on how close to max food the other followers are.

[_\Magus/_]

yeah well i noticed this when you go to a bar or a dinner... maybe that's the explaination... i'm gonna check it out

Max
:ph34r:

[Ormic]

Need Help! (Bobbin maybe :bye: )

My technician has built a waterpump now. How can I install it into a water source?
I'm not sure if it is working now.

Thanks in advance

[Chris]

Originally posted by Ormic@Mar 20 2005, 06:58 PM
Need Help! (Bobbin maybe :bye: )

My technician has built a waterpump now. How can I install it into a water source?
I'm not sure if it is working now.

Thanks in advance
I'm not absolutely sure, but I think it's enough to leave the pump at a water source. The pump should increase the water production by 3DR per day. To get the full benefit of that, you could also leave some empty bottles etc. there, as your men will fill these up with the surplus DR.

[Ormic]

Yeah, thank you, it works.

I am on my way to beat this game finally. Really not too easy but great fun. Would like to see a remake of this with improved handling and more sounds etc.

[The Tasty Orange]

I've tried to put a trap in a building in one of the areas I own, but how do I get the food? I know that the person I leave at the site gets something to eat, but how does my main char get any??m :wall:
:ranting:

[Chris]

go to the locations info-screen. you can see the the production of food an water there. normally it shows maddows. i assume you have a rat trap. left-click on the maggots, you'll see rats then. a right-click brings you back to maggots. the numer right shows how many DR of rats will be produced. lets say 3DR. your gang member use up 1DR, so you have a net production of 2DR. a single rat provides 5DR of food, so your gang member produces 2 rats in 10 days. the collects these in a random building (that must not be the one containing the trap). you can normally pick them up from there.
the better types of food can not be produced in every location. just try it out in the info-screen. if you can't select snakes here, they can't be produced.

you have to select the apropriate type of food for your tool. if you leave a rat trap at a location, but select maggots in the info-screen, the member will produce maggots and leave the trap unused.

[Mandragoron]

I guess he just wants to pick it up.

Just visit all buildings in the camp, in on building the food lys on the ground.
And no camp will produce more then 6 parts of his production line, like 6 rats so visit your camps in some time to get them on max produktion.

[The Tasty Orange]

Thanks :D I finally get it. This game is so much easier, when you don't have to rely on a steady supply of dogs :)

[Camulos]

I used to have this game ages and ages ago on the amiga. Brings back a few memories. It's a good fun game overall, quite difficult though especially if you're new to it. Anyway, here's the help I can give:

I remember from the instruction manual I had, that doctor's experice is their ability to heal wounded people. At low experice they can only heal minor damage (75% plus or something) and at higher experice they can perform minor miracles.

Same goes for the technicians, I seem to recall that some things they can't build if they're experice is bad and/or they will be able to make better suggestions from items (e.g. he will tell you from wire that he can make a rat trap).

The gun is rubbish, as it's expensive and needs reloading. Best weapons start from dagger, then axe then pitchfork.

A lot of the items in the game are red herrings, things such as gold, tires and fuel are only good for bartering.

You have to try and block you enemies into a dead end by occupying the adjacent cities with some good troops. They won't be able to move past your cities. Then occupy the city they are in, and hey presto they won't be able to scavenge anymore food or water, and they'll soon die.

I recall people talking about building a car at the time from the bits, but as far as I can remember you can't.

Now this could be important - I have a vague memory that you can win the game without killing the other players. All you need to do is find the radio and repair it (it needs a battery and some screws I think). Then you will contact some other place where it's not all deserty and horrible and go and live happily ever after there.

The pumps just need to be left at the water source to work. They improve some places better than others.

If you find a radiated site, come back there alone when you have full health and be very quick to look around. They usually have some really good stuff there. You also don't die when you go inside the buildings. The raditation suit takes forever to build.

Always check each area for items on the floor, they look like little brown poos.

That's it for the moment. Please don't blame me if some of the info is wrong (it was about 10 years ago since I played it). Have fun

[_\Magus/_]

:cry: yeah i found that radio you were talking of in Left end... it means i'm almost at the end of the game for the first level... :cry:

also i noticed i bug (and no its not the damn movement bug when you travel in town :blink: )... it seems that sometime dog, road traders or even the enemy's guys can resurect... sometimes i got 5 or 6 meat grom 1 dog because of that :bleh:

anyway i can't wait to try those next levels of dificulty, and of course to see what happen in the end of the game...

Max
Quebec, canada
:ph34r:

[_\Magus/_]

i noticed a* bug LOL

[_\Magus/_]

:D YAY!! i'm not finished yet with this game

ok it's not batteries and screws that this two way radio need... it's batteries and an electric device... it must be another unique item wich can be found only on the ground i think, cause i found the radio on the floor (so it don't appears in the info screen).

I presume that the game is made in a way that you can find those item only at a certain point in the game.


Magus
:ph34r:

[_\Magus/_]

:sniper:
Kill your ennemies seems really hard : i trapped them as you said Camulos but they last very long... i'm pretty sure they stayed in my wormhole at least 7 or 8 turn... i wonder what it can be in the further levels of difficulty...

Anybody finished the game already or killed 1 of the other guys?

Magus
:ph34r:

[_\Magus/_]

note : it take at least a doctor an a good and armed mercenary at both side of your dead lock if you want to kill an ennemy in level 1... you must count between 6 and 10 turn before the ennemy die

[Camulos]

I've been playing the game a bit more, and realised I made a few mistakes earlier:

Technician and doctor's experience seems to not make any difference to their skill.

I had a bad technician give better advice than one with 82% experience.

The trap is required to catch meat. Usually the "Wild West" cities with the wooden huts are where you can harvest meat. You don't need dogs to be there to get meat, so you may as well kill them all.

The clothing does seem to offer some form of protection, but not a great deal.

Also, when you are "trapping" an adversary, do not let him get access to a main city. Basically I think that in the main cities they will trade their items for food and water and so basically live for around 50 turns. If necessary abandon a location to let them get into it and progress to the next location, then reoccupy that location to trap them between two lcoations you own.

It's worthwhile to hang around until they die, as otherwise they will probably conquer one of your areas while you're away and all your hard work will be undone.

[solaris_one]

If the problem with saving still persists, try creating a folder named 'BURNGAME' in the games main folder. :ok:

[Lord Gannon]

How do you use the two way radio? I finally found the items needed to make it (broken radio, batteries and electronic odds and ends) but now nothing seems to happen :( I was looking forward to getting the alternative ending but now i'm stuck with not knowing how to use it. Right clicking it doesn't work by the way :S

oh the manual says that the experience percentage shown in the character screen is used solely for combat. The only way to get an indication of the skill level of the person you want to hire is by looking at the stuff they ask from you.

[_\Magus/_]

man you got to put down the items you found in a statch and bring a mecano... left click...but i supose you did this already :crazy:

i found my own two way radio in Left end... just by curiosity where did you found your radio and the electronic odds and ends ??? maybe the location are always the same... also did you found those item on the ground??? cause i think it's always that way.

Max
Québec, Canada
:ph34r:

[Lord Gannon]

@ _\Magus/_ :

Oh I already made the two way radio. There just doesn't happen anything when I put it in my boss characters inventory. I just can't figure out how to use the radio to get the alternative ending.

I found the broken radio in left end near the monestary. I found the electronic odds and ends in hard mans death. They were in posession of a trader called don camillo or something like that. Getting the batteries isn't really a big problem seeing that lots of traders have batteries.

I really hope that someone can tell me what to do with the radio when you built it. Also one question, does anything happen if you bring the bible to the church at the monestary?

[Chris]

I've found a nice chart with all the locations and food/water resources on it:
http://www.ollivision.de/kl/b/gfx/pic2.gif
It is in german, but I think you should have no problems to understand it. I consider it very helpful.

legend:
M = maggots
R = rats
S = snakes
F = meat

Wasser = water
Nahrung = food

[Camulos]

Concerning the radio:

Something way back in the back of my mind seems to be telling me that you just need to wait. There are selected times when someone will try and call you I believe.

The bible doesn't seem to have any effect (whether you go to the church or otherwise).

Items your techie can use are:

Broken Radio
Batteries
Electrical Odds and Ends
Wire
Spring
Wood
Tin Plate
Screws
Metal Pipe
Rubber Pipe
Rag
Broken Pump
Spare Parts
Boots
Gloves
Gas Mask
Protection Suit

As far as I am aware, everything else that isn't either a weapon, food, food trap, water container or clothing is just for trade and has no use.

You can work out the exact values of each item by seeing what the Diner/bar will offer you for them. That should make doing deals easier.

Can anyone tell me if you need the tools? - my techie seems to be able to build things fine without them.

Also am I right in thinking that for the poison gas areas, you only need a gas mask and not a completed protection suit to survive?

I'm not quite sure how the computer works out when the enemy players die, as I have had a player "trapped" between two of my locations for 50+ turns, only then for him to go on a rampage and take over most of my sites (each defended by 4 or more people).:wall:

Maybe the exposure to radiation makes them grow camel humps and unfeasibly deep pockets full of meat. :blink:

[_\Magus/_]

I found the broken radio in left end near the monestary. I found the electronic odds and ends in hard mans death. They were in posession of a trader called don camillo

Like i tought, the location of the 2 unique pieces are obviously always the same: i found mine exactly in the same spot, same dealer camilio...

so i made the radio and nothing happens to... maybe you must be at a certain place to make the trigger.

and btw after i killed the 2 first ennemies relativly easily the other one seems praticly impossible to kill... anybody reached the end of the game already?

Max
:ph34r:

[a friend]

Also am I right in thinking that for the poison gas areas, you only need a gas mask and not a completed protection suit to survive?

you are right & tools seems to be just more tradingstuff

btw thought about that maybe u got to have the radio to finish the game? just a idea... :P

once i played it on the good old amiga, but now on pc I die too soon cause I lose my cities - i forgot what i do wrong :wall: :D

[Lord Gannon]

@ a friend:

you are right, at the poisenous gas regions you only need to wear a gas mask for protection.

I think it's pretty annoying that you're not able to outright attack your enemies. I have one of my enemies holed up in the caves north of the monestary and even after 60 turns he didn't die. I even made sure that he couldn't take the caves by adding guards whenever he killed one. I really hate those guys... :angry:

[Chris]

the easiest way to win the game is to control the needed amount of locations. you don't have to occupy all locations, but mainly those around the big citys. you can take a look at your progress at the status screen, which is accessed from the main map.

[_\Magus/_]

now that's interesting : i finally managed to kill the 3 other guys (tip : try trap them where there is toxic gaz or radiation... they die really faster)

but... nothing happened! :blink: :crazy:

I got the two way radio and i killed all of the others... and i'm still playing.

bobbin did you finished the game already?

Max
Quebec
:ph34r:

[Chris]

not recently, but when i played it in 1990 or so. you have to occupy all the locations adjacent to the big cities, preferably the gas stop and refinery last, as your men can't get any food there. then you've won.

[Mambokurt]

Hi!
Can anyone tell me why I am losing cities? No opponent is near them and there is enough food.

Mambokurt

[_\Magus/_]

:bye:

if you are sure you ennemies never got acces to the place you are talkin about it must be because there is radiation or toxic gaz... check out the info screen of the city... if it's a normal place it can't be anythng else than a problem of food/water supply...

:cheers: cheers


Max
Québec
:ph34r:

[a friend]

this game rockz hard

i started to play it again with the english version from abandonia and cause of a unknown reason it seems to work better than my german version (i dont lose cities anymore as in the past)
in fact i own now more than 80% of the cities and catched all enemies between 2 cities(and as posted above they dont die...)

i ve got the 2 way radio and a lot of more stuff playin only to finish the game.
i think i need just one more protective suit to control nob hill & the raffinery - then it could be over, but didnt try yet.

wish me luck guys

[_\Magus/_]

let me know when you'll finish the game ... my friend

:ph34r:

[Guest]

aye, i'll do. i try to catch the final screen to post it here :Brain:

[a friend]

i got it finally
i let myself some time withit, cause i had some doings behind the gaming muck
so those 2 speak for themselves right?
http://img56.echo.cx/img56/9515/burnend1ql.gif

http://img56.echo.cx/img56/126/burnend28ap.jpg

sorry for spoiler effects :whistle:

[ForceUser]

hmm... you think you could let slip exactly HOW you won? :sneaky:

Or perhaps write the first.. and likely only :blink: Faq/walkthrough??

You could then submit it to Aandonia too ;)

ForceUser

[a friend]

my english couldnt face such hard work >_<
i'm sorry

just play and play; have to be intelligent enough to do the right things?
try to control most of the cities, produce everywhere food to trade with it. you need at least 2 protection suits to end the game (i think it was nob hill and the raffinery). take the raffinery at the end of the game, so u dont have to worry about the soldiers there ( but use a protection suit for him!). at the beginning start with knifes, try to get rat traps and go on with your invasion ;)
good luck

(and it is right that you have to control the cities near the capitals to finish)

[Guest]

ehm by the way :D

later i did not let the cpu guys control much cities, dont let them get big (also take their cities if u can)
after a short while (3-5 cites with some food and enough water) i had a soldier and a doctor in my party. you can nearly complete the game with not more than those 2 helpers. sometimes u should use a 2nd soldier to fight the enemy or transport stuff...
one more cool thing was to have something like a home town (i used sana, i like sana -_-) to store all your cool stuff there. its pratically when u have a technican too in the same town, so u dont have to worry about it. better it could be to have 2 towns where u storing ur stuff - so u dont have to walk through the hole map to build only one *dirty word* trap or muck (or water pump, or protection suit...)!

hope it was readable and help you a bit:-)

[hessekopp]

YES!!!!! since i bought BURNTIMEEEEEEEEE in 94` for the amiga 500. i´d never played it . on any system either or neither. aber es war geil, und ist es immer noch!!!!! grüße an alle DEUTSCHEN ALTE SCHULE SPIELER!!!!!!

What i miss on this site is the GAME "HEXENKÜCHE" or better known as CAULDRON. one and two, (there are 2 parts of the jumpin pumkin) yeah,rocks!!!

D:A:D bad crazyness :cheers:

[a friend]

grüß dich :D

und gitarre spielste auch noch? mensch is ja en ding :ok:

[George]

hi
could anyone tell me how to buy and sell? it seems since theres no currency this must be impossible and im not sure how the trading works bacuse when you click on accept deal it doesnt do anything.
thanks

[Sauvastika]

The little coloured box on the dealer's screen needs to be green for the trade to be accepted.

[MadMarius]

plaied the game and it's absolutly amazing....after reading all this pages i know more..
I plaied the german ver and it was a pain in the neck not knowing what on earth those guis are saying..about the glod:you can carry it arround and it isn,t benefical at all. :angry: i definitly like the mutants wich i speack with:Quote:Arrgrhh..arrrgrrg...Food..rrgr:intelige nt.a few days ago i found how i can capture towns.and it is great when you can get food for free from the local Doggy population :angel:




.......I am a happier bannana now...

[Fru]

I've had numerous attempts at this game over the years and have loads of savegames stashed somewhere.

Its a great concept and if you stick at it there is quite a bit of depth too. It has a sort of boardgame feel to it with a dash of RPG and strategy.

I seem to remember being able to kill the CPU opponents if you predict their movements and occupy the same location as them on the same day. Also, if you kill opponenrs guards who are defending a location look in the buildings once they are dead for any stored food and equipment.



Some strategies and tips: (I'll remember more if I have another go of the game.

Play as two player hotseat until you have a feel for the game.
Rope gets you into higher up caves.
Make sure any of your guys who are guarding a location have a weapon and its active(red border)
Always use your fighters to kill dogs etc unless they are in poor shape.
Its not worth taking damage from toxic locations as it can be a real pain with mutants and dogs around when you need healing.

Early stages - Exploring areas before the CPU characters is vital.
Take over a location early with lots of water.
Use the dogs wisely to increase your range.
Store bottles etc in water locations for return journeys.
Travel with 2 guys and do as many "sweeps" as possible, returning to dump loot in your 1st location or barter it along the way for traps and useful items.
If you get 1 or two traps early on you can rest easy about recruiting a technician.

Basically explore as far as you can early on to get the benefit from items lying around before concentrating on expansion.


I'm glad you guys like this game, it brought me a lot of enjoyment though I've never completed it. I tend to play games just to see how they work but this game has such hidden depth that I'm often drawn back to it.

[Guest_phoenix]

check out www.burntime.org (http://www.burntime.org) for an unofficial fansite-forum :ok:

[Guest_balacay]

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=1]Can anyone tell me how to catch my food. I have a snacke trap and a rat trap, but I don't know how to use them. And how do I catch maggots with the dagger(i READ THAT YOU CAN).

Excelent game! :ok: :ok: :ok:

[Guest]

how to run this thing with a Win XP?

[Scarface]

You need to use DOSBox or VDMSound. You can find more info about these utilities in here :

http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=programs

[n00b]

Hey, is there like a walkthrough anywhere for this game

i am so lost

[Vampire Monk]

Originally posted by Bobbin@Mar 16 2005, 04:35 PM
I found out how to build these tools:


rat trap - screws, wood, wire
foot trap - tin pieces, spring, wire
hand pump - defective pump, hose, rags
mach. pump - spare parts, iron pipe, hose, rags
how to use Rat Trap and Hand Pump

[Vampire Monk]

Originally posted by Bobbin@Mar 16 2005, 04:35 PM
I found out how to build these tools:


rat trap* -* screws, wood, wire
foot trap* * -* tin pieces, spring, wire
hand pump* * -* defective pump, hose, rags
mach. pump* -* spare parts, iron pipe, hose, rags

[Guest]

How can i order one of my followers to stay at the city?

[Guest]

hoe i can use industrial water pump?

[coldwinter44]

somebody know how to use water pump or industrial water pump?

[Chris]

Originally posted by coldwinter44@Dec 10 2005, 06:12 PM
somebody know how to use water pump or industrial water pump?
Simply leave it a site with a water source. You'll notice that the amount of water rations pumped per day increase.

[MadMax]

Hi guys !
I just wanted to tell you that some german fans are doing a remake called burntime 2047 which should be ready in some months.. it could interest those that speak german. I have told them I could try to translate their remake so that french and english fans can also have fun with it :).

So if you speak german, check this out : www.burntime.org
there's a thread called "burntime 2047- burntime 2" and that's where the developpers (mainly a guy called mavado) discuss and give infos concerning their remake.

[Chris]

That's great news! I just tried out their lastest test release and I am really excited about the first release. There are some really nice ideas within this game. Maybe we are allowed to host it on AR once it is finished, it would fit well to the site. Thanks for the info!

[Judukan-Empire]

Fantastic !

Burntime and Genesia ruled the Amiga !

(alongside Syndicate, Cannon Fodder, K-240, Uto.. ok :) )

UPDATE - I downloaded the demo on www.burntime.org
its really good, some great work gone into it, should be a great add on.
password (pw) in on forums

[Guest]

It may be a stupid question, but here it goes.

I left a town right in the begining of the game. I put a bottle in the well.
When I came back, I couldn't access the well and any houses in the city. Why is that?

[Guest]

erm some one else control the place maybe ? look out for a not your color flag on that city..

there is alot more items u can make ..
actually ..
for a brief idea > go to your burn_gfx, open BUT DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING, inside burn.txt
some town names , items names
from there u can figure out roughly what can be made, what items there are, as for the the two way radio i remember something about it able to control something or another team,, i'm not sure as i nvr made it before.. i had the manual somewhere and even the orignal cd LOL appreantly THERE is a proctection thing, its like the old ways of reading a chapter finding the words .. the one from abandon ware or underdogs had this protection compromised

i completed the game once before (with food and water hacks :P) bsaically use a cheat engine (in dos , its infinity) , you need need to conquer all the towns and get atleast 100 % conquered..

u can kill all the enemies , but it makes no sense early in the game

as the enemies will fight each other.. its helps to keep them around for a while

to finish them off simply trap them between two towns ..
then keep traveling between the two towns .. with them in the middle as long as you are IN that town they are in, they cannot take over that town ..

doctors will only heal certain hp % and up, in town's u can heal from 40 % and up, in town doctors any where 1% to 30 or 40 % i think, in controled areas with doctors , 50 % and up, with out doctors in bases, i think 65 % and up, without doctors and travelling , 75 % and up
with doctors and travelling 65 % and up..

red fighters are any hwree from 40 % to 80 % (fight more gain exp) kills those mutants

red techs/doctors, have better expericen but i doubt they are required , but techs can give better advice

green peeps are n00bs

blue are n00b doctor i think, sometimes the color mixed up

peeps asking for water bottles , rats and snakes are suckiest
peeps asking for metal , canteen ,a are somwhat strong ..
peeps asking for weapons, armor, wineskins, tend to be the strongest..

hint: do not only keep wineskin in ur base mixed around with canteen and bottles , some times 2 dr is enough to keep you alive for 2 days when water is low

some base can't fill up a wineskin ... but most can fill up a water bottle
in bases where there is toxic and radiaotion,, use a suit and dump supplies inside ,, keep for up to 80 days food supplie for 1 soilder. throw soilder with adequate proctection inside and he cna live for that long, 50 to 80 days per radiation site is enough time for you to travel around to fill up the gaps.. u can practically control EVERY single base

game simpoy ends i think 1 day after u reach the 100 % conquer ratio

[Jack Swift]

Originally posted by MadMax@Jan 1 2006, 11:31 PM
Hi guys !
I just wanted to tell you that some german fans are doing a remake called burntime 2047 which should be ready in some months.. it could interest those that speak german. I have told them I could try to translate their remake so that french and english fans can also have fun with it :).

So if you speak german, check this out : www.burntime.org
there's a thread called "burntime 2047- burntime 2" and that's where the developpers (mainly a guy called mavado)* discuss and give infos concerning their remake.
Any news about Burntime 2 being translated? It would be great if somebody could do it.

[Betty]

Hi all!

I had the burntime fever last couple of days after not having played for ages!
It was so cool, and I just won the thing *yeeehah*.

I actually came here looking for more assembly recipes for my mechanics, but it seems there are no more.

Still here are some things that I found helpful, maybe one thing or the other is help for someone else too.
In the end, there will be some questions that came up to me.


First an overwiew of food you can produce:

Maggots --> 1 man, no tools: 1 DR // 1 man 1 knife: 2 DR // 2 men 1 knife: 3 DR
Rats --> 1 Trap 3 DR // 2 Traps 4 DR
Snakes --> 1 Basket 3 DR // 2 Baskets 5 DR
Meat --> 1 Trap 5 DR // 2 Traps 7 DR

- Knife for farming maggots has to be lying around in one of the huts/tents/caves .
- 3 or more traps of the same type will do no change
- only one type of food can be farmed (!)at a time(!). If there are different trap types in one camp, you can switch productions via the info screen when stock is full - very nice because you don't have to be there.
- look nicely after your camps: Whenever your there, put any food of the "home type" from stock to the outside. There can only be six of the "home type" food in stock, but as many as you like lying around (works only in single player, otherwise this works as a self-service-shop for your opponent).
- whenever a merchant is around, go see him and give him plenty of what lies around. You'll have enough and more is being produced all the time.
- Fill well rooms with all kinds of bottles. You can never have too much. Empty containers will be filled until next time you're around, and then you only change bottles: take full one, place empty one. If you have a full bottle with you but you are thirsty, you just drink from the bottles standing around until you say 5 DR. Cheers! (note: containers won't get filled when water DR of the base is equal to number of men there)


About water pumps:

They will not increase every water supply, think carefully where you put them:
the small one does 3 DR, the big one 6, but (!) note these are NOT extra DRs.
Means that the small one is only of any use in locations that run less than 3 DR of water (and there aren't many). Put the small pump in a 3 or more water DR location and it will do nothing.
Anyway, I think _packing_ a well room with (empty) containers is far better (and cheaper) than installing pumps. Cause if the room can't hold the water, it will be gone whenever you're around - be it 3 or 6 DR. With loads and loads of containers, no drop is wasted. Cheers again.


For comfy travelling:

Put up a nice network of neatly looked after bases. It should be golden rule that the camp gives an overproduction of whatever type of food it does, so the table is always ready when big boss comes around. Yummie!
This plus the water container thing will have you travel nice and easy with light luggage, even with large parties.
Food overproduction will be there whenever the number of men is at least 1 less than food DRs produced. That also means, think carefully how many soldiers you put where.
Exeptions from the overproduction rule might only be _really_ unimportant little dead end bases (put one guy there to gnaw his 1 DR of maggots, don't even give him a weapon - no one will ever notice he's there at all) OR frontline bases under heavy attack. Here it will sometimes be nessecary to e.g. send in a 4th guy even if you only have 4DR of rats. You'll remember to bring your own food when travelling there, and maybe you can improve food production here later, or pull back the last guy when times are more peaceful.


Make it on your own:

Travel alone whenever possible. Be only accompanied when necessary, e.g. when taking your hirelings from one place to another, or when escorting the badly injured to doc and back. You might be surprised how little food and water you need when you're alone. Little shopping tours can even be taken without any supplies, or only a little water, so you have plenty of room in your inventory for trading stuff.
BTW you don't need to carry a weapon all the time, it will only waste a precious slot.


Time heals (all) wounds:

I read above there are several "opinions" as to healing.
Actually, it's easy as that:
70%+ --> wounds heal automatically, makes no difference whether you're travelling or at base
50%+ --> wounds heal automatically when a doctor is around (in your party while travelling or at base with wounded hirelings)
less than 50% --> you have to see the doc in town.

You want to have your 50+ wound cured by your own doc, that would mean you must stay in camp with him and have some days pass, or take the guy with you for some time. I personally think both alternatives are pain, so I rather like to see a city doc when hurt below 70%.
Plus, you are in no hurry: your main char will never be surprise attacked (dogs and mutans don't count, they do only scratches). If you always look carefully after your food and drink stats (which you always do anyway), nothing will happen.


When it comes to attack:

Of course, have someone to do the dirty work. Plus, never attack as a group, rather one by one. Give the (best) weapon to the best soldier, let him do his work until he reaches the health limit you planned for him (70+ if you want him to stay in the base after fight, less if you plan to see a doc with him). Then let him hand the weapon to the next soldier or if you like, finish yourself.
Very important!!: when using a gun, check ammo after EVERY single hit, cause even a stupid mechano will kill your best soldier when he's running around with an empty gun.


Problems with killiing computer opponents

To be honest, I don't have a recipe for this. Sometimes I have the goddamn portrait trapped and he goes on killing my best men though he long has no more bases. Sometimes he is obviously doing nicely, but somehow gets into trouble when entering one of my medium camps, and I get the "xyz has died" screen totally to my surprise.
The only thing I can say, if a trap won't work for some reason, that is you got him trapped for turns and turns and he goes on fighting, it is often a good idea to "let him free" (donate one or two not too important bases if you have to) and try again somewhere else. I'm not sure if this might be a bug, but sometimes the ******s just won't die.


Home sweet home

One last thing I found very nice: Look around carefully and make one very nice location your home base. It should be a place able to supply meat and be close to a city, preferably only two days distance so you can travel to and fro without carrying supplies.
Have your mechanic be at home here, and dump any parts and useful stuff in one room. He will be happy and you have control about what you got and what you need.
(I did so mainly because I hoped to find new things to build, but sadly there don't seem to be any more *sniff*)
Whenever you're around, you can pack your bag with meat and go see the merchants in town. You'll be there and back in no time.


MISUNDERSTANDINGS

Lastly, this is about (common) misunderstandings.

- The color of a hireling has nothing to do with his skill. Colors are random as long as they are neutral, and will change to their flag's color when folks are hired.
- The portraits of hirelings are random also
- Also, the type of stuff they want is, at least thats what I experienced, not really an indicator for their skill. When hiring, it's often worth trying to empty all meat out of your bag and first try with snakes. Often the same guy wants meat if you have some, but a snake is fine if thats best you have. I must say I never hired people who wanted things like protection wear or stuff, but I can say I hired 72% fighters for rats or snakes. I admit though that I always save before hiring and try out all the guys available. *tongue*
- It is often recommended to place docs in frontline bases to heal the wounded. I tried that long time, but I too often found the poor guys were the first and easiest killed. I now prefer to have docs in "2nd row" bases and pull soldiers there after battles, replacing them by fresh men from the "doc camps".
- Misunderstanding? At least I think so: it may be a wild theory but I think the radio doesn't do anything.


Ok, here is the very very last advice, I admit it's very kiddylike but maybe it's good for NEW STARTERS: start with both human players and keep starting until you have a nice starting postion: you and your "alter ego" may be close, the other two as far away as possible. It also helps when 3 and 4 are close to each other, as long as they are far from you. First turn with your "fake" player, have him move to a town near you and drop all his stuff. Then let him die (move around to a poisonous place or just move around without supplies). This way, you have one opponent less, plus the extra knife and bottle will come in handy for a start. Plus, if you're lucky, players 3 and 4 keep fighting each other while you make yourself at home in your half of the map, it will take a good while before they even take notice of you. *g*





Now, here's to my own questions:

1.) is this a bug?: I noticed I can't trade with the same merchant two times in a row. When I select the second deal it will say OK and show green light, but nothing will happen when I click on the "deal ok" line. You had that problem?

2.) when I place a soldier in a location with no food production possible, how do I equip him with food so that he survives? Must it be in his inventory, or will it be ok if food is at stock there?

3.) annoying problem in one of the radioactive locations - the one in the east of the map, might be called "the factory" (German version is "Fabrik").
There is one building/ruin with 4 or 5 doors and a strange kind of "front porch" that you have to walk on to get to the entrance in the back. You can access that damn "porch" only from one side and the one accessible entry is all at the end.
Now the problem: call me stupid but I never manage to get there. I tried for hours, gently clicking pixel by pixel, but somewhere half the way the stupid ****** always starts runing around and leaving that porch thing.
Did anyone ever make it to the entrance or is it really impossible (yea I want to hear that)?


That's all for now.
Oops, this has become long.... but I was so happy to find folks who share my weird passion *gg* My husband kept laughing at me while I played these days. Actually, he already laughed at me 10 years ago when I first showed him this great game! Ach, poor guy he knows no better. *tongue*

See you guys,
Love Betty

PS
Sorry for my English

[PrejudiceSucks]

Your help is excellent and so is your English, Betty :)

Thanks a lot for that, I was finding the game a bit hard before, but it's ok now.

[krampe]

@betty

1.) i didnt had that bug could trade with city or random trader serveral times in a row.

2.) it needs to be in his/her inventory, food in a building don`t work.

3.) just take a rope in your inventory and you can enter the building ;p (same with a upper cave in caves)

[jimmy7512]

Does anyone have a list of items that are needed to make other items ?

[EuchreJack]

Did anyone else know that you can sell water? If you sell a bottle or canteen (or probably any water-carrying item) to the bar or restaurant, you get additional value equal to the quantity of water carried. I think this works with trading as well. Since water is fairly plentiful in the game, this could be important in early trades, since maggots are worth the same as the water carried in a bottle. Also, buying empty containers is cheaper, I think. Though, usually you don't get much choice in buying items.

[Panzer]

Having a lot of fun with this game.

I've killed off all three CPU opponents, I've got a cave in Snake Hill filled with junk, and I'm wandering around with a doc in tow and three protection suits total. Problem is, I can't find the broken radio anywhere. Is it placed randomly, or am I at luck's end and an opponent sold it off for food before I did them in?

[Panzer]

Oh yeah, forgot to add;

Gold isn't useless. You can trade it in at restaurants/diners/bars for what seems to be an infinite amount of food or drink. Using one gold bar shows as zero daily rations of food, but I tried accepting anyways (I was desperate that first time, three people, no food at all), and it gave everybody 9 daily rations. Same with drink, fills everyone up.

I haven't tried with other useless items like bones or the skull (bible gives only 1 day's worth, I checked), but I think it's safe to assume that if it shows up as 0, it actually counts as infinite (or 255, or 16383, or whatever passed for the maximum memory back then. Kid Radd (http://www.kidradd.com/) all over again).

I think I've been wandering around trying to find the radio for about 350 days now, I'm on my way to completing my fifth and sixth protection suits (just need gloves).

[()Alf]

1 more problem to solve, but im afraid its a bug.

when i look in the info about what is stored at a location, thers some stuff i cant find in any building at that location. i scanned the area with the mouse pointer to b sure not to miss a rock which could b some kind of hidden building (like some wells at a rock) but found nothing.

anyone else had that experience?

[Guest]

btw, some said traders carry batteries many times, i played >900 days and never saw one :ph34r:

[Panzer]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(()Alf @ May 26 2006, 02:03 PM) 232390</div>
1 more problem to solve, but im afraid its a bug.

when i look in the info about what is stored at a location, thers some stuff i cant find in any building at that location. i scanned the area with the mouse pointer to b sure not to miss a rock which could b some kind of hidden building (like some wells at a rock) but found nothing.

anyone else had that experience?
[/b]

Only thing I can think of is that you're missing a room only accessible by using a rope. Carry one in one character's inventory and have him try to access places you can't seem to enter otherwise. Snake Hill and two other places have caves like this, if I remember right. Not sure of the names, but one's in the middle of the mountains, above the monastery, and the other is just under the monastery in either one of the mutant areas.

[humpy93]

:sos: I know i sound n00bish(i am one)but how do i use te rat trap i have already made one but i cant figure out how to use it. :sos: :thanx: in advance

[Labradorino Golden]

Very nice forum anda very nice topic. Burntime is one of my favourites from loooong time ago...

I've read all the threads looking for a strange....THING.

You see, by chance i got the original game for A500+, along with the manual.

On the manual i was reading while i was sitting at bat.. nevermind where i was :huh:
Anyway, in the manual it is mentioned at page 127 (english version) there is a clear picture of a MINE DETECTOR (which resembles alot like a metal detector to me), alongside with batteries, electrical odds-ends and a broken display.

I know this may sound impossible, but i can swear you it's true. Too bad i don't have a scanner to scan the image, but possibly some1 else who have the manual can do that.

Now. I saw the same image long time ago, and i desperately tried to find the go**amn detector.

I tried exploring all locations at start, hoping to find it on the ground. I did that at game start, being sure to be the first one to enter the location, and starting from a new postion each time. But no luck.

So i tried doing that at level III difficult (hoping for better gear at higher difficulty) but the gear was even more scarce.

I checked al the traders various time, hoping that since Don Camillo carry electrical odds ends, some1 else could have metal detector.

Anyway i finished the game @ level III, i managed to get and complete the radio, but got no call at all.

I know this may be a little shocking for you, but I swear it is true.

Sometimes (especially in cities) if u check for INFO on it, u can see there are items stashed there, but u never get them all. This because some of them are INSIDE a cave maybe? A secret cave? I've read almost all of the manual, and especially the last part, which is some kind of "tutorial" for the player, covering the first days of a game... Here is mentioned (and showed) the metal detector. For what it seems the images come from PC version, or maybe A1200 version...

Anyone can help me to figure out it better?

Thanks in advance and forgive my english.

PS this is not a joke. If i get the chance i'll get a scan of that page.

[Labradorino Golden]

I found the manual online, so you can check it out yourself... :ok:

http://www.burntime.org/download/burntime_manual.zip

look for manual page 127, not on pag 127 of acrobat reader

[Guest]

I am a total expert in this game, for instance I know all tricks:

To be honest: forget the two way radio, there is NO alternative end!!!!
The rest was mainly said in the thread, so have fun playing :titan:

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Labradorino Golden @ Jul 25 2006, 11:22 PM) 245103</div>
I found the manual online, so you can check it out yourself... :ok:

http://www.burntime.org/download/burntime_manual.zip

look for manual page 127, not on pag 127 of acrobat reader
[/b]


thanks, this was very useful to me!!!
I love this game!
(even if I wonder if guns does really exists in this game since I've never seen one!)

[maVado]

Hi everyone,

Just want to say Hi to everyone,

I am the one who works on Burntime 2047 stated earlier in this thread. I love the game, esp. the graphics and the superb gameplay so I started a remake in 2005. Unfortunatly I had to abandon 2 versions already because of the lack of functionality of Multimedia Fusion which I used for designing. Now, since Version 2 is available I continue on Burntime and will soon have a first test version ready. Most of the programming can be copied from the old versions so I don't need to start from scratch, also all the limitations which prevented me from finishing the game are gone.

So check out www.burntime.org every once in a while, If I have a version ready I let you know as well.

As for the original Burntime,

Mines, broken Minedetector and repaired version is still in the game and can be found with luck. Also the gun and ammunition can be found ... however the chance is pretty low. If I remember I found a land mine in about 1 of 200 burntime starts and a Bible 3-4 times, the broken radio 2 times and never found the LCD display and the broken mine detector by myself.

Also there is no use for the radio just a trade in like everything else. No alternative ending ... sorry

There is a guy called "Florian" registered on the Burntime Board, you can PM him with your questions.
He is the son of one of the developers and might answer your questions :)

[Milkymalk]

I played the original back in 1993 on my Amiga500 and finished it... NOT. Because the Amiga version has a bug that won't let you finish the game even if you control 101% of the necessary towns. Very frustrating. Later I finished it on the PC.

I have played the game for a total of about 10000 days and can tell you this:

I never found a mine detector.

I did find radio parts, but never all of them in the same game.

A repaired item is worth more than its parts, so the repaired radio might actually just be for trading.

Offering items at the bar does give you a hint on its value, however ROUNDED DOWN! For example, a rat is worth 3 DR, whereas 2 rats are worth 7 DR if I remember correctly. There are quite a few items which are worth "x.5" rations.

As soon as I can afford it, I travel with a companion. I usually take a mechanic along, because that way I can build anything wherever I am and only need to hire one in the whole game.

AFAIK, the computer-controlled opponents CHEAT in the PC version. On the Amiga you have absolutely no problems killing them, they die almost the first time you trap them between two towns.

If your food stack in a town is full, just fill the guard's inventory. If it's full again, switch the produced type of food in the INFO-screen.

Sometimes I make a habit of buying an empty water sack, fill it, and sell it for another empty water sack and something else, as the difference is greater than the margin of the trader. Or I hoard them, as sometimes a trader seems to have an endless supply that refills his stock every day, and then I go shopping with a truckload of full water sacks. :ok:

But thanks, there are a few things I never discovered, like armor from clothing (I assumed, since I can't use pulllovers etc, that they are only for barter) and use of ropes to reach some places (honestly, I thought the coders messed up some towns and forgot to make paths to the caves).

It's a classic, it's great, and it need's a multiplayer (4+) network option!
Claudio

[Knaecke]

The game is great as long as there's a challenge. By now I have wiped out all my oppenents and control all cities but the radioactive ones... After running around for additional 100 days i finally managed to make one protective suit but seems one isn't enough. So I got bored and stopped playing... The only thing left for me is travelling around the map through the towns and cities and watch for dealers to find some boots. I also couldn't find any electrical odd-and-ends for my radio...


It's a great game but very hard to finish it seems... :(

[Guest]

Milkymalk again here.
Someone complained about not being able to trade again with the same merchant after trading once... the cause is, they have a limited number of item slots, and if the slots won't hold all items after trading, it's not possible even if the light is green. So if you want to trade multiple times, don't stuff them with maggots.

[Guest]

I'm not certain if a reply to the saving problem was posted already (I havent gone through all the posts), but I have it.

HOW TO SAVE:
Get the version of the game from www.abadonia.com . I had another version and wheren't able to save to. It didn't have the BURNGAME folder. Alternately
try making the folder.

[Shut up Kieth]

Hey. I have a new labtop that runs with windows vista. Ive tried for about an hour trying to run burntime on my computer but it wont open. It will open for a second and then close. Ive extracted the files over and over and cant seem to make it work. Please help.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Because you're trying to run a DOS game in Windows, obviously. This thread will explain how to solve your problem (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14913) (and yes, I know it doesn't talk about Burntime specifically, but the process is essentially almost identical).

[Shut up Kieth]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jun 21 2007, 05:11 AM) 295486</div>
Because you're trying to run a DOS game in Windows, obviously. This thread will explain how to solve your problem (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14913) (and yes, I know it doesn't talk about Burntime specifically, but the process is essentially almost identical).
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Thanks, but its way too technical for me to understand. Thank you though.

[The Fifth Horseman]

I assure you it is not as complicated as it might seem. If it seems too difficult, please try following the tutorial examples.

If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jun 22 2007, 02:56 PM) 295782</div>
I assure you it is not as complicated as it might seem. If it seems too difficult, please try following the tutorial examples.

If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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Nevermind. It was just my new labtop is a vista. Burntime works just fine on XP. Thanks.

[Orchard warrior]

This is still one of the best post apocalyptic games ever!!!!

[Flipper405]

So I just got my first snake trap... I'm trying to figure out how to get it to work. I tried putting it in a building to try to get it to work like a rat trap, but that doesn't appear to be doing anything. Anyone have any suggestions?

Ok I'm editing this way past when I did this first post - I literally just now beat the game. The thing I didn't realize is that you have to put them in a building and then post a fighter or a technician or a doctor there for them to harvest it. This is really the key to getting along in this game - you start by laying knifes in your buildings to harvest maggots, eventually moving on to rat traps, snake traps, and finally, foot traps. By doing this, you give yourself extra food supplies that can be traded for the things you need - workers, weapons, water containers, etc.

[Fubb]

how does Fubb capture a town? He has 2 followers right now...both mercenarys

[digitCruncher]

Great game!!

However... I seem to have problems...

I recently conquered a town. Looking around, in the information panel, there was apparently 4 DR of water in the town. However, I can't find it ANYWHERE. The well is dry BTW... and there are no buildings I can't access...

Is this a bug? How do I know that it is 'real' water?

My guys died of dehydration, because I can't find enough water... it seems to always disappear...

Also, do I need to have a pump in order to gather enough water to satisfy my people? Or do water wells create enough water on thier own??

Capture a town by killing everyone who doesn't want to follow you, then station 1 (or more) guys there... (right click the guy you want to leave behind, and click "Stay Here"

[boonshanka]

Heyas

I loved playing this game and I only recently played it for the first time too. It may not be fallout but it's got it's own style and charm. What I didn't like about Burntime is when I've setup a fat town with a huge water and food supply and plenty mercs and if I'm on the other side of the map the opposition sometimes moves in and slowly starts killing my mercs one by one.
Otherwise, Burntime has got alot of replay value for me :)

Mmm I got that radio once, pretty useless. lol. I'd still like to one day find that metal detector thing, sounds cool. I wonder how the metal detector works, does it only detect mines? or does it help you find other cool stuff like parts for the meat trap hehe. Wish I had a snake trap detector.

I noticed while playing, the protection gear was spawning on traders at certain parts of the map, I don't know if it's different for every game but in the game I just played, the mask spawned in the Snake Hills area, the suit spawned in the centre of the map, more or less around the monastery, gloves around the top right area of the map and boots was around about the left most part just above the middle, (above that main city under the gas station town). Oh yeah it won't always be on those traders, you have to go back to those cities a few times but its more likely to spawn in those areas. That's my theory anyway.

Hope that helps anyone having trouble getting their Full protective suit parts.

[ShadowBlade]

I've tried the Burntime Classic (http://www.burntime.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=238) remake, which is compatible with the English DOS version. However, I didn't notice anything in the way of improvements: it runs natively on WinXP, but having DOSBox makes that kind of irrelevant. There's also occasional crashes, some dialogue-related glitches and no AI (as far as I know).

Nevertheless, it's pretty well done for such a seemingly early build (0.0.10).

[Unregistered118]

You know what would be great? If the FREAKING COPY PROTECTION REQUIRED MANUAL existed on this site. :P

Seriously, WTF?

[Lulu_Jane]

The manual is available in EXTRAS, as seen on the link from the review page. Just scroll down for it - hereish (http://www.lemonamiga.com/?game_id=206).

[Unregistered118]

The manual is available in EXTRAS, as seen on the link from the review page. Just scroll down for it - hereish (http://www.lemonamiga.com/?game_id=206).

Neg on that. The plaintext version doesn't work for solving the copy protection clues, you need the pdf version that actually has the formatting and page numbers of the original manual.

[Luchsen]

You know what would be great? If you would JUST TYPE ANYTHING AT THE COPY PROTECTION and hit enter. Or, if you are too CAPTURED BY YOUR CAPSLOCK to try that, USE THE SEARCH in this thread?

[Frankenberries]

but i tryed this : the same character goes outta food. in the 2 cases he had 96% life. i feed him manualy with a piece of meat. One time that meat gave me 3 food the other time it gave me 9... and other times with another character a piece of meat gave me 6 more DR...

sometimes the bugs don't even get me a single ration :crazy:
i wonder if this could be a bug in the game


If you want to feed just one man, have him walk away from the group before you eat it. When you are in inventory screen water and food is shared with everyone on the inventory window. This is handy if you have 1 or 2 people with 0d and you don't want the pigs with 7d getting a share.

[Wasteland Max]

Hi.

This game is way too tough for me... I've been trying for weeks (pc version). ;-;

Could somebody post screenshots of the ending, please?

Thanks.

[dos_junkie]

Hi.

This game is way too tough for me... I've been trying for weeks (pc version). ;-;

Could somebody post screenshots of the ending, please?

Thanks.

Hi Max,

i played the pc version and the amiga version, in the pc version nothing happend after i conquered all cities around the 5 big cities.
Only the statistics told me "you control 101% of the cities" 8-)

In the amiga version diffrent, after you controll all cities, you have won, and a nice outro comes.

here u can see it (its the last part of a german longplay of Burntime):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGtqdsUxGxM

(to skip the gameplay u can jump to 7:50 to see it)

[HernitOfBlackLake]

I will be embarking on a lets play of this game. There isn’t one on you tube with English commentary so this will be my offering.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HermitOfBlackLake?feature=mhee

Stay tuned for the first episode.

Happy scavenging in the retro wasteland!!

[Redsoles]

I have played burntime dozens times since 90s. Recently I found a trick to buy from any merchant for free. Here is the trick:
1. Buy everything you want from a merchant using food, any food (meat, snake, rat, maggot)
2. Re-buy the food from merchant using this formula:
- meat can be re-bought using snake
- two meat -> meat and snake
- meat + rat -> meat
- meat + snake -> meat + rat
- snake -> 2 maggots
- 2 maggots -> rat
The principle here is to re-buy using lower total DR (daily ration).
3. In the end the merchant will only has 1 rat which can not be re-bought using lower food value. But if you also buy another item from the merchant which you do not need, you can re-buy that rat using that item. In the end you will get what you want without cost. :D

[HernitOfBlackLake]

Good to see somebody else is still playing this game. obviously given it some serious time.

[fossie94]

I've played this game several times, but i've never found the metal detector. Does anybody know in which area of the map it will spawn?