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SacShadow
07-03-2005, 07:41 PM
well i have a fewq questions about sacrifice first off will they be making a sacrifice 2?????? if so im definetly buying it
:sick::cry:
BeefontheBone
07-03-2005, 08:22 PM
seems unlikely - aren't they defunct now? both the sacrifice and interplay websites are no longer existant as far as i can tell, and nobody bought the first one. 'tis a shame, though.
Lizard
07-03-2005, 08:24 PM
Well becouse Shiny has lost a lot of its quality in my eyes,I wouldnt know if I should be happy or frightend,when I would hear about Sacrifice 2...
SacShadow
07-03-2005, 09:08 PM
well there is an interplay link i do belive on atari.com but for sacrifice website i cant find it which is a shame to me cause ive got halo 1 and 2 i play those games for days but i always keep coming back to play sacrifice and it would be nice to follow up with a sequeal to Eldred (main char) and Zyzyx's ( Eldred's imp servant) quests especially since when u play with the generally bad gods (charnel,pyro, and stratos) you have the option to leave their service and go across the astral void to some new world.
Lizard
07-03-2005, 09:34 PM
Bad Gods??? :blink:
They ARE the best.Especially stratos and charnel.I love them :w00t:
The James is quite ok too,but Pyros and Persephone pfffft :not_ok:
Partizanka
07-03-2005, 09:48 PM
I don't think any of them are "bad" They just each balance each other out. Thats the whole point of you being there. You upset the balance and, in the end, it leads to real devastation for everyone. I really love the way you can switch sides at the begining and end up with units from all the different sides.
Lizard
07-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Yeah.I always end up with charnel/stratos mix.They are my favorite gods,they have just wonderful characters.And their units and spells are quite OK too. :D
SacShadow
07-03-2005, 10:09 PM
i love stratos and charnel the best charnel is funny
(james: mithras tells you've been making demons to help marduk.
Charnel: dont belive his lies.
james: what if mithras tells me your a villan?
Charnel: dont belive anything else he has to say!)
and stratos is cool calm calculating and smart his creatures speed provide nice advanteges on the battlefield but they are a little too weak for my tastes
i am however troubled by something why does when you play persephone all the way to the battle with marduk and beat him, instead being greeted by persephone i was greeted by james this is screwed up cause when i did all the other gods staright through to the final battle at the end they greeted me most gave me a choice of what to say(i.e. im leaving or im staying) but nothing with persephone did marduk kill her while i was killing stratos( persephone's last mission before marduk battle) or is my comp broken.
Lizard
07-03-2005, 10:15 PM
Yeah Charnel is awesome
Charnel:Kill the blasphemour!
Persephone:Death is not answer to everything charnel
Charnel:Yes the tortue has also its merits... :blink:
The Stratos units are often with ranged attacks and I use them mainly as snipers...
For hard hitting I have mostly charnel Netherfiend,persephone Troll,or just Yeti...Beneath them I gang ranged unit maybe cast frozen ground,or some wall...
SacShadow
07-03-2005, 11:01 PM
i am best wid james icast bore to try and take ouit some enemies or boulderdashes to draw em out. cast a wall to slow em down halo of earth is really good to. rhinoks can own ground as well. james could use some more ground tho
Lizard
08-03-2005, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by SacShadow@Mar 8 2005, 01:01 AM
i am best wid james icast bore to try and take ouit some enemies or boulderdashes to draw em out. cast a wall to slow em down halo of earth is really good to. rhinoks can own ground as well. james could use some more ground tho
The bore is strong,but it is too slow and creatures generaly can avoid it.I liked the final monster (Rhinok) becouse when it strike,it will hit simply EVERYTHING. :w00t:
My favorite creatures are DeadEye(charnel,it is VERY strong and costs only two souls.I use them to assist my Flurries and Yetis,four or six of them provide SERIOUS firepower) Flurry(Very good bombardment unit,best used against enemy wizard becouse if it will hit him it distrupt each spell he is casting) and both Silverback and Hellmouth(final creatures from Stratos and Charnel...)
SacShadow
08-03-2005, 10:51 PM
The bore is trong,but it is too slow and creatures generaly can avoid it.I liked the final monster (Rhinok) becouse when it strike,it will hit simply EVERYTHING.*
My favorite creatures are DeadEye(charnel,it is VERY strong and costs only two souls.I use them to assist my Flurries and Yetis,four or six of them provide SERIOUS firepower) Flurry(Very good bombardment unit,best used against enemy wizard becouse if it will hit him it distrupt each spell he is casting) and both Silverback and Hellmouth(final creatures from Stratos and Charnel...)
i like the deadeyes range and yeties can flat out own most creatures but flurries i cant find very many good uses for them. they are good for delaying attacks in but when the rest of your units get into the fight they can do more harm than good
:sick::wall:
:Titan: :sick::wall::help:
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Lizard
08-03-2005, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by SacShadow@Mar 9 2005, 12:51 AM
The bore is trong,but it is too slow and creatures generaly can avoid it.I liked the final monster (Rhinok) becouse when it strike,it will hit simply EVERYTHING.*
My favorite creatures are DeadEye(charnel,it is VERY strong and costs only two souls.I use them to assist my Flurries and Yetis,four or six of them provide SERIOUS firepower) Flurry(Very good bombardment unit,best used against enemy wizard becouse if it will hit him it distrupt each spell he is casting) and both Silverback and Hellmouth(final creatures from Stratos and Charnel...)
i like the deadeyes range and yeties can flat out own most creatures but flurries i cant find very many good uses for them. they are good for delaying attacks in but when the rest of your units get into the fight they can do more harm than good
:sick::wall:
:Titan: :sick::wall::help:
:sick::wall:
Yeah.They arent that good.But I suggest to create one and let it attack just enemy wizard...The poor one wont be able to cast anything :evil:
I dont use them to any other purpose
SacShadow
08-03-2005, 11:12 PM
thats true they definetly piss me off
SacShadow
09-03-2005, 02:19 AM
thats funny i just noticed these throwing up guys (:sick:) remind me of charnel creatures like hellmouthes or something
Lizard
09-03-2005, 12:25 PM
Yeah,they do the same...
Btw would you like to play Sacrifice mp? :w00t:
Mad-E-Fact
09-03-2005, 06:50 PM
You guys made me curious, as I've never heard of that game before. I took a look at the homepage and it looks interesting, I'll have to give it a try someday.
Lizard
09-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Mad-E-Fact@Mar 9 2005, 08:50 PM
You guys made me curious, as I've never heard of that game before. I took a look at the homepage and it looks interesting, I'll have to give it a try someday.
It is definetly worth it :ok:
Best game from Shiny by my opinion...
Borodin
11-03-2005, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Mad-E-Fact@Mar 9 2005, 07:50 PM
You guys made me curious, as I've never heard of that game before. I took a look at the homepage and it looks interesting, I'll have to give it a try someday.
It's quite good. I really liked the fact that you could play one god off against another, accumulating different combinations of spells in pursuing your agenda. Only problem was that the pacing was too furious, but then the devs posted a combination hotkey that let you pause things to enter commands.
Lizard
11-03-2005, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Borodin+Mar 11 2005, 04:13 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Borodin @ Mar 11 2005, 04:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Mad-E-Fact@Mar 9 2005, 07:50 PM
You guys made me curious, as I've never heard of that game before. I took a look at the homepage and it looks interesting, I'll have to give it a try someday.
It's quite good. I really liked the fact that you could play one god off against another, accumulating different combinations of spells in pursuing your agenda. Only problem was that the pacing was too furious, but then the devs posted a combination hotkey that let you pause things to enter commands. [/b][/quote]
Pause the combat? :blink:
Isnt it consider as cheating?
I have set the hotkey for every spell and I can cast them enought quickly,there is no need to pause the game... :max:
Borodin
11-03-2005, 09:18 PM
Pause the combat? :blink:
Yes, as in pause the game, enter commands to your troops, unpause. The same kind of thing that Darklands did back in the early 1990s, and has been done by many RPGs, strategy titles and sims since then, including the BG, Fallout, and KotoR2 series.
Isnt it consider as cheating?
Why? The developers themselves issued the hotkey combination because they were getting massive complaints that strategy gamers found the pace too furious. So basically you have two different games in one: one for arcaders, another for strategy players. That doesn't sound like a cheat.
I have set the hotkey for every spell and I can cast them enought quickly,there is no need to pause the game... :max:
Good for you. Have a cookie. :ok:
Lizard
11-03-2005, 09:31 PM
Why? The developers themselves issued the hotkey combination because they were getting massive complaints that strategy gamers found the pace too furious. So basically you have two different games in one: one for arcaders, another for strategy players. That doesn't sound like a cheat.
Well yes but it is great feeling when you learn to do the strategy in "arcade" mode... :whistle:
Btw I know what is pause mode,but I never heard that there is one for Sacrifice(and I was VERY interested in this game when I get it).
Yobor
11-03-2005, 10:00 PM
THE BEST SPELL EVER IS.......... (Drumroll)
Obviously, Raise Dead.
I mean, come on, who wants to waste all that time with the summoning and the soul collecting? It is a fast and cheaply effective way to maintain the perfect army.
Borodin
12-03-2005, 11:25 AM
Well yes but it is great feeling when you learn to do the strategy in "arcade" mode... :whistle:
For you, certainly, but for myself I honestly don't see why. Being able to respond with arcade-like dexterity isn't something that makes me think I've accomplished anything game-specific: an arcade is an arcade is an arcade. :whistle: There's challenge enough in developing alternative strategies in each new Sacrifice game as I take a different path, siding with one god or another. And curiously, much of the playing community was of similar mind--hence, the issue of releasing the hotkey combination after so many players complained in Shiny's forums.
Maikel
12-03-2005, 11:34 AM
I loved the james creatures which spit 3 rocks at once. When you had about 6 of those nothing can come close :D
Yobor
12-03-2005, 11:20 PM
I personally loved the Warmongers, with their chainguns. If you had 4 or five, the enemy stood no change just because of the sheer weight of the bullets thrown at them.
Lizard
12-03-2005, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 13 2005, 01:20 AM
I personally loved the Warmongers, with their chainguns. If you had 4 or five, the enemy stood no change just because of the sheer weight of the bullets thrown at them.
Yeah.Except of fact that even lighting bolt can kill them.They are VERY fragile.
My most favorite units(dont count final ones,becouse I like them all):Deadeye,Bombard,Mutant/abominition,Styx,Sylphs and Yeti...
Yobor
12-03-2005, 11:42 PM
I was not too keen on Persephone or Stratos, but my brother loves Stratos. I think both of them have too weak of a units.
Lizard
12-03-2005, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 13 2005, 01:42 AM
I was not too keen on Persephone or Stratos, but my brother loves Stratos. I think both of them have too weak of a units.
The Stratos has the most difficult missions and his unit are VERY fragile and you need think how to use them.But Yeti and Silverback are thanks to abilty freeze enemies on attack genial(Silverback is my favorite final creature)
I think persephone is one of the most easiest and most powerful gods... :blink:
Yobor
12-03-2005, 11:49 PM
The absolute easiest is James. He is like the easy mode for the game. While Stratos is like Hard mode. Charnel is in the middle.
Lizard
12-03-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 13 2005, 01:49 AM
The absolute easiest is James. He is like the easy mode for the game. While Stratos is like Hard mode. Charnel is in the middle.
James AND persephone are easiest,without doubt.Charnel is in middle some of his missions are light and some VERY hard(I never finish his third mission)The stratos is most difficult.And I never played as Pyro
Yobor
12-03-2005, 11:55 PM
Is the third one the one where you have to ressurect the prince?? All you have to do on that one is Raise Dead.
Pyro is very tough, but not as tough at Stratos. I can never beat the Dynamo mission :-(
Lizard
12-03-2005, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 13 2005, 01:55 AM
Is the third one the one where you have to ressurect the prince?? All you have to do on that one is Raise Dead.
Pyro is very tough, but not as tough at Stratos. I can never beat the Dynamo mission :-(
No third one is that one that you must beat some wizards and be better than Pyro..You got the Blight creature and Slime spell when you finish it...
Yobor
13-03-2005, 12:02 AM
Ohhhh.
Youre best bet is to rush out and kill as many peasants as possible, just 4 the souls.
Borodin
13-03-2005, 11:53 AM
James is about the easiest to go with, and Persephone is a close runner-up. Pyro I always found very difficult, despite boasts otherwise.
Lizard
13-03-2005, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Borodin@Mar 13 2005, 01:53 PM
James is about the easiest to go with, and Persephone is a close runner-up. Pyro I always found very difficult, despite boasts otherwise.
Pyro is hard but he has also VERY destructive powers(well he IS god of destruction,no?)Volcano,draginfire,explosion,blind rage,it all can reduce enemy forces very effective.And he has also quite destructive units with warmongers(I tested this unit,it can kill dragon with two shots! :blink: )bombards,pyromaniacs,etc...But I never liked phoenix...
Yobor
13-03-2005, 12:14 PM
The only downside to Pyro is that if you kill a horde of enemies, then Charnel can ressurect them!
Lizard
13-03-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 13 2005, 02:14 PM
The only downside to Pyro is that if you kill a horde of enemies, then Charnel can ressurect them!
Charnel Animate Dead spell is great when you have some time,but in middle of battle,after majority of your mosnters slain,you are just great stationary target and probably you die very quickly when you try to ressurect something.
Yobor
13-03-2005, 12:24 PM
See, it only takes a few seconds to cast at high level, and you can just run in circles. Cheap, but effective.
Lizard
13-03-2005, 12:31 PM
There are a lot of situations where is just better to flee.For example1)When someone cast volcano direct under you 2)If you are in constant fire of mutants,bombards etc... 3)If you are chasing by 5 trolls and 2 yetis...And many others :bleh:
Yobor
13-03-2005, 12:31 PM
Once the idiot of an opponent walked into the middle of an exploding volcano. Needless to say, he died.
Lizard
13-03-2005, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 13 2005, 02:31 PM
Once the idiot of an opponent walked into the middle of an exploding volcano. Needless to say, he died.
I was also few times idiot like him.... :whistle:
I just found Sacrifice together with Logest Journey and HOMM 4 in a bargain bin. Only $20 (for the three of them) :Brain:
Yobor
24-03-2005, 05:21 PM
You can buy Sacrifice for 1 dollar from Amazon.com.
Mad-E-Fact
24-03-2005, 05:52 PM
Well, I got the game too. Played the tutorial and the first mission for the God of death, whatever his name was. Seems like a fun game, the realtime action/strategy mix is quite refreshing.
Originally posted by Yobor@Mar 24 2005, 06:21 PM
You can buy Sacrifice for 1 dollar from Amazon.com.
That's really cheap, but since I live in Sweden I have to think about shipping as well...
PrejudiceSucks
25-03-2005, 01:56 PM
It's a top game, but is it just me or is the Skirmish AI a lot worse than the campaign's?
I always found the campaign really hard (I did play as Pyro and Stratos, though) but Skirmishes were always really easy (even as those 2).
Anyone else see my point?
Lizard
25-03-2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by PrejudiceSucks@Mar 25 2005, 03:56 PM
It's a top game, but is it just me or is the Skirmish AI a lot worse than the campaign's?
I always found the campaign really hard (I did play as Pyro and Stratos, though) but Skirmishes were always really easy (even as those 2).
Anyone else see my point?
This is becouse in Campaign has a Computer a LOT more resources(manaliths,monsters,souls.....) then you (this goes to EXTREME in stratos missions-reminding one when you must without altar(if you die you lose) and just with 8 souls in beginning beat a well fortified and a LOT stronger persephone wizard....) ,but in skirmish you are both on same level.(if you want it harder,try 4players map wiht other three allied against you...)
SacShadow
28-03-2005, 06:55 PM
skirmishes are fun but it would be even better if u culd have like 8 people that would be insane.
but yeah campagins are harder than skirmishes (is that how u spell it??) especially the crucible (last level the fight against marduk) he charges u in like the first minute of the mission with a whole armyu need to be really good wid ur spells if ur gonna kill that army. but in campaign missions where u fight other wizards who charge u wid this gigantic army then its all about the first battle if u win there u pretty much got the whole mission down.
:wall::guns: :Tom:
:rifle: :Tom: :bannana:
:wall::guns: :Tom:
:rifle: :Tom: :bannana:
:wall: :Tom:
:rifle: :Tom: :bannana:
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When aliens invade....REMEBER THE ALAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Antaeus
28-03-2005, 07:43 PM
-.- Marduk charges then casts Death.
My counter? Have a nice ole fireball ^^
Marduk was easy! So many five soulers to harvest!
Dreadlord
29-03-2005, 12:05 AM
The game wasn't hard...
It was dang easy, of course I only played with James throughout the whole thing.
Lizard
29-03-2005, 12:09 AM
Yeah.With James it was easy.WHOLE diferent story with stratos.Btw the last two-three missions(including crubicle) are easy for each god....
Dreadlord
29-03-2005, 12:15 AM
I first played with Charnel but I got really bored, his missions all seemed to similiar to eachother.
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