Ultima VIII - Pagan

[Kosta]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/135)

[eric10051981]

abandonia's RPG section is growing.. cool.. but one thing came across my mind just now..

"why Pagan before Serpent Isle??" still no review for Serpent Isle?

[Data]

for the record.
You don't need vdmsound to get sound effects/music under dosbox.

[Stroggy]

hmmm
how odd
the game runs very slowly
I've tried ctrl+f12 in dosbox but that doesn't have any effect.

Do you hear the people talk? because I can't seem to skip the dialogue... and the dialogue lasts for a very long time.

[FreeFreddy]

You have to klick with mouse on it in order to skip it.
As for the speed, I increased the cpu cycles with ctrl+F12 to 11500, this is then good speed for the game, perhaps 12500 would be perfect then.

[trekky]

I cannot Download Ultima 8 from this site.

[FreeFreddy]

I had no problems when tried to download the game... :?

[Stroggy]

I've tried it, I think I still prefer the 7, the gloomy spirit isn't for me, and the lack of overview of quite annoying.
The animation of the PC and NPCs is quite choppy and the movement can be quite annoying IMO.

[eric10051981]

yesssssss.. ssssserpent isssssssssle issssss the besssssssst part of all..

i haven't played ultima ix - assssssssscensssssssion though.. but ssssssssome people ssssssssaid that ultima ix isssssss the worssssssssst..

(i'm trying to become the earth sssssssserpent.. 8) )

[Anonymous]

this is the best ultima game I've played, and I actually own it! I only got it working for my laptop...now I'll try dosbox for this computer. I still have the box and cd, and everything!

[FreeFreddy]

Do you mean Ultima IX or Ultima VIII now? Because Ultima IX is a Windows game and could never run under DosBox (doesn't need that too).

[eric10051981]

i want serpent isle.. i miss serpent isle.. :(

the differences between the 7th series and pagan are just too much.. can't say i enjoyed playing pagan but still..

[Durak]

It runs REALLY slowly for me. The dialog is choppy and it takes a very long time to load the startup. I'm using DoSBox, anyone know how to fix this? It would be GREATLY appreciated.

[Tom Henrik]

The only solution I can think of, right now is to try and increase the speed in DOSbox....

Ctrl + F11 (decrease speed)
Ctrl + F12 (increase speed)

[Durak]

That didn't work, it was more choppy than slow. Although it was REALLY slow...

[FreeFreddy]

If you make cpu cycles higher than your PC can handle the simulation will be even slower than before.
Therefore I would suggest that you get a new PC now. :)

[Durak]

It was slow on my old computer, but I bought a new one recently therefore it should run fine...

[Durak]

I'm getting a new computer shortly, so I'll try it on that one...must...play...Pagan - Ultima 8 again...

[Anonymous]

it dosen't work with dosbox. couls someone help?

[eric10051981]

it worked with dosbox.. my computer spec is AMD-2600 with 512 DDRam and with 15000 cpu cycle it still got choppy though, and if i tried to get more than that it'll go even sluggish..

very very annoying i tell ya.. :?

[FreeFreddy]

Hmm, my PC is P4 2.4 Ghz and I only use 11500 cycles, the game is fast enough then... :? Perhaps 15000 is already too much for your CPU and it becomes sluggish?

[eric10051981]

well, i remember using 13500 cycles and it is choppy.. maybe you're right.. i'll try it right away.. thx :D

btw, nice avatar.. :)

[FreeFreddy]

Thx :D

[Anonymous]

I tried to install it in ms-dos ( Win 98 ) But it keeps asking for disk1. So i tried burning it to disk, but i still get the same message. Even when i just try to run u8.exe without installing in dos, it comes up with "Abnormal Exception" without starting up. Any suggestions?

[FreeFreddy]

Asking for disk1???... :? You don't need to quit Windows 98 and start in Ms-Dos mode to play the game, just run the game with the Dos-prompt linkage in your startmenu.
Anyway, if this doesn't help, try to play the game with DosBox, which you can get on this site, the game should run without problems there. Btw, you better use DosBox in Windows XP, not 98, because Windows XP is faster for Windows programs than Windows 98.

[Niccin]

I know that Pagen was one of the last hand drawn games made, for it's time. It was also one of the most detailed hand drawen games ever. With the most fps. for a hand drawen game. I'm not sure if that has changed after 1994. Anyway I thought someone should mention it, after the enourmous amount of man hour's that went into it.

[Durak]

And I must say it is a wonderful game indeed...except it also runs choppy with DosBox for me...

[eric10051981]

found a rather shocking fact!! :shock:

dosbox actually works better with windows 2000 coz when i played pagan, it doesn't get choppy.. i repeat, it DOESN'T get choppy.. same with other games..

hope this helps.. :)

[FreeFreddy]

Well, under Windows XP on my PC it isn't choppy at all... :?

[eric10051981]

meaning.. something wrong with my xp? :?

[FreeFreddy]

Either XP or with your PC's configuration... But perhaps it's just little slower PC also...

[eric10051981]

oh well.. i can always switch to win 2k to play some old games.. plus, i also use it to work.. just some kind of a win-win solution.. :)

[Durak]

My comp is almost the same as eric and I have the same problem...

I guess I'll have to abandon Ultima 8 - Pagan. On a side note it doesn't work on my 98 computer either probably because it's pretty darn old.

[eric10051981]

durak, maybe you want to try installing win 2k? :P just for the sake of playing pagan..

[Durak]

If I hadn't already played it before in dos, I'd die.

2k? Nah. I'll settle with my memories and continue to play Dizzy for the sake of flipping.

[eric10051981]

i think i played pagan once when i still used.. well, either 98 SE or ME.. and it worked nicely though..

[Omuletzu]

it doesn't work on my 98 computer either probably because it's pretty darn old.
That cannot be the case... after all the game is made in 1994!
So unless you are running the game on a 60 Mhz machine, the game will work

[FreeFreddy]

On 486DX2 with 66 Mhz the game still runs with flawless speed.

[Durak]

Hrm. Guess I'd better try it again.

[Guest]

I cant install this game on dos box

it keeps on saying:

halting:internal error
where:installing.c -761
reason sound/a16sbfm.dll

help plzz

[FreeFreddy]

What do you mean with "I cant install the game on DosBox"? You cannot set the sound in the install.exe or you try to "install" the game somehow somewhere? :huh:

[EbilPhish]

You can try an alternative client here - http://pentagram.sourceforge.net/
Kinda like Exult for Ultima 7.

[gdp2000]

Yes pentagram is good. It is from the same people as exult, but is still alpha as you can see in this cvs changelog snippet:
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ("Pentagram CVS")</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
2004-10-08* Matthew Jimenez <mjimenez@users.sourceforge.net>
* world/actors/AnimationTracker.*: targeted jump do not affect z.
* Avatar should not be able to jump higher, and gravity + inertia
* should take care of falling.

2004-10-08* Willem Jan Palenstijn <wjpalenstijn@users.sourceforge.net>
* games/U8Game.cpp: put avatar in stasis at the beginning

2004-10-08* Willem Jan Palenstijn <wjpalenstijn@users.sourceforge.net>
* gumps/PaperdollGump.cpp, gumps/SliderGump.cpp: use FontManager

2004-10-07* Matthew Jimenez <mjimenez@users.sourceforge.net>
* kernel/GUIApp.cpp: clean up the textmodes input handling for possible
* additions to type of input it could handle.
[/b][/quote]

When you emulate is in dosbox you should try the latest patch, which you can still find on ea's ftp. The patch repairs many plot bugs and finally the avatar jumps where you want him to jump. Makes ultima 8 a less jump & run.

c ya

[Bert]

One of the best games of all time...

[Morrin]

Experiment with CTRL-F11, CTRL-F12 and CTRL-F7 and CTRL-F8. I have up to date computer and it was hell of a choppy. It works averagely now.

[Colthurn]

Great site, I discovered it two days ago and I am in Heaven!

I downloaded Ultima 8 to play in my Win98SE PC and I am having some trouble. I am using your system disk utility to start up the PC, but when I load U8 the system freezes.

Any ideas? :help:

[FreeFreddy]

This question belongs rather to Troubleshooting. ;)
Anyway, did you try to play the game in DosBox? You can get it also from this site under Programs.

[Tom Henrik]

Actully it belongs here as well, Freddy ;)

[Colthurn]

I thought DOSBox was only good for WinXP. I'll give it a shot.

Thanks.

[Duterasemis]

I can't get the damn thing to install at all. I've tried extracting the whole thing and running INSTALL.EXE under both Dos Box and VDM sound. Neither one was able to install the game. I kept getting the message "Halted: Internal Error!" no matter what I did. How do I install this damn game?

[Guest]

It appears that somebody else was having the exact same problem I am right now. I have no idea what the error message means, nor do I know how it might be fixed. I looked at that Pentagram site but it was of no help. Any ideas?

[Colthurn]

Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Nov 25 2004, 04:17 PM
This question belongs rather to Troubleshooting. ;)
Anyway, did you try to play the game in DosBox? You can get it also from this site under Programs.
Tried DOSbox in my Win98SE system. 750Mhz, 128MB RAM. Pagan runs, but way too slowly. Processor usage goes up the roof, so I can't increase cycle rates for positive results. Open to more suggestions...

[gdp2000]

People expiriencing problems with U8 should wait some time for a better release of Pentagram. I think in a few weeks it will be playable.

[FreeFreddy]

Originally posted by Colthurn@Nov 26 2004, 03:36 PM
Tried DOSbox in my Win98SE system. 750Mhz, 128MB RAM. Pagan runs, but way too slowly. Processor usage goes up the roof, so I can't increase cycle rates for positive results. Open to more suggestions...
750 Mhz are way too little for DosBox. Actually at least Pentium 3 with 1 Ghz is needed for it, with 2 Ggz the emulation of Dosbox would reach acceptable speed then. More - better.

[Guest]

For all of you who have been frustrated with trying to run Ultima 8 with DOSbox, I have some news

A very good man has come up a way of playing U8 (and both parts of U7 too) in windows.

you can find this all at Ron Windemeyer's Webpage (http://members.iinet.net.au/~rsd/)

[Help me]

I cant seam to instal Ultima 8. It says in beggining that I dont have enough memory for such a game (huh i have 128 mb ram that is more then enough for this kind of game) then i got to instal press instal and nothing happens nothing gets instaled :(

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by Help me@Nov 28 2004, 10:16 AM
I cant seam to instal Ultima 8. It says in beggining that I dont have enough memory for such a game (huh i have 128 mb ram that is more then enough for this kind of game) then i got to instal press instal and nothing happens nothing gets instaled :(
I haven't played this game, but usually when old games refer to lack of memory they mean conventional DOS memory or ems. What OS are you using? Win 98? Win XP?

[Help me]

I have win xp. But I cant install the game either :(

[FreeFreddy]

You don't need to install it, it's in the installed state already. Just move it to some folder and start the game. And you should play it under DosBox, under Windows XP it won't run at all.

[Help me]

I have tryed to make DosBox it starts and all and I have mounted it and it is Z patrition??? How do I strt the game in it?

[TaloN]

so youve typed mount c **********

*** being the drive the games on and folders etc?

then type

c:

then run , go, menu etc. whatever runs the game

type dir/p to see all the files in the folder you mounted.

[Guest]

Hey guys, first of all congratulations for your beautiful site!!! it really kicks behind! :ok: :ok: :ok:


a request now : does anyone have the maps of Pagan? I downloaded the game last year but I'm always getting lost in this game, since it is sooo vast and all.
any help would be greatly appreciated people!

what about lands of lore 1? any chance we see it some day in abandonia???

[Son_Of_The_Nephilim]

Originally posted by Guest@Jan 5 2005, 04:30 AM
Hey guys, first of all congratulations for your beautiful site!!! it really kicks behind! :ok: :ok: :ok:


a request now : does anyone have the maps of Pagan? I downloaded the game last year but I'm always getting lost in this game, since it is sooo vast and all.
any help would be greatly appreciated people!

what about lands of lore 1? any chance we see it some day in abandonia???
alright, this "guest" is me. I just registered. So, the question remains : any maps for paaaaaaaaaagaaaannn??



I'd also like to say that I just discovered this wonderful site through the underdogs a few days ago. I have already downloaded 4-5 games and it feels great to be able to play these games again!!!!!

THANK YOU ABANDONIA!!! :kosta: :kosta: :kosta: :kosta: :kosta: :kosta:

[KP]

Hello,
I have a question: I am able to run Ultima 8 with dosbox and d-fend on my system (after a lot of changing settings) but for some reason when I walk into the town some walls of the houses are black instead of normally textured and also most houses are almost completely empty inside (no tables, books etc). I also think not all characters are in the game. (Also almost no enemies) Explosions from fire mushrooms look black also.
Does anybody know what my problem is?
Some kind of wrong setting in dosbox/d-fend?
Maybe someone can give the settings he uses.
Btw I use the version of ultima 8 that i downloaded from this site so I think I have all the data of the game.

[MasterGrazzt]

Don't bother. Ultima 8 smells.

[KP]

Ok, I have tested Pentagram now and this seems to solve the problem of dissappeared objects. Only now I don't have sound only midi music :-(

[Guest]

I'm having this problem using Pentagram. First of all, DosBox didn't work for me cuz it was just so slow... even if I gave it more processor... So, I tried pentagram but I have two basic problems: There is no sound, altough there is music... and I don't want to see the pentagram console above the game... I just want to play it like old times :P Any help?

[WhyTheHellDoUSPeopleUseLolLaugh?]

Originally posted by Guest@Jan 13 2005, 01:20 AM
I'm having this problem using Pentagram. First of all, DosBox didn't work for me cuz it was just so slow... even if I gave it more processor... So, I tried pentagram but I have two basic problems: There is no sound, altough there is music... and I don't want to see the pentagram console above the game... I just want to play it like old times :P Any help?
I forgot about something else.... I can't enter any of options choices (video, audio...) it simply doesn't let me.

[Khumash_Gor]

OMG I love U8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 waa this game is the bomb /tear

remembering all the great days i wasted playing this game when i was like 14 just makes me all happy inside! LOL

[Guest]

Its says for me.........
Files=40 You must set your files=40 in your CONFIG.SYS.
Help would be greatly appreciated.

[Mighty midget]

:wall: i cant get it to work!

i got the sound thing and i have the dos command prompt window (i have XP) but every time i select U8.exe the dos prompt comes up and then closes automaticaly without starting the program. :wall: what am i :wall: doing :wall: wrong

[DasOmen]

Perhaps you should play it in Dosbox?

[Guest_alex]

hey guys, could anyone explain how to apply the patch that comes with the download? also, do you recommend doing this?

[Guest]

nevermind above post:)

[King_llama]

help pls its not i workin it wont dl i dont know why :rifle: :Titan:

[FreeFreddy]

Writing more understandable wouldn't hurt...
Anyways, try to download without a download manager.

[gildedgirth]

Just want to throw in my 2 cents about this game. At the time, Ultima 8 created quite a stir in the Ultima fan-base because it differed so much from its predecessors in terms of game mechanics because it was more action-oriented, contained a smaller world and only allowed a single control character as opposed to a party.

It didn't help that when it was released there were numerous bugs and also some very annoying mario-like jumping sections, which were addressed by a stream of patches. However, Richard Garriot, I think more than a year later surprised everyone by releasing a huge patch that addressed the remaining bugs, elimated some of the tedious jumping sections, added lots of new content and wrote a nicely stated "thank you" message to Ultima fans and acknowledged past issues and gripes with the game and hoped this would help them to enjoy the game as it meant to be.

I was very impressed that Garriot did this, when the games sales were already cold from being out more than a year and no one expected any further enhancements for the game. It might have been a year and half later, I forget exactly. But the patch so significantly improved the game experience that I really think Ultima 8 didn't get it's due credit. It's one of my favorite RPG's (and yes I've played the Ultima series from 1- 8 starting with my original Apple 5 1/2 inch floppy disks on my Apple IIe computer). Playing Ultima 8, I remember "oohing and aahing" during the summon animations for my elementals. The hand drawn 2d graphics and were amazing at the time (and I'm sure they still are). I loved the game so much I later bought another copy just incase my original somehow got corrupted.

While definitely the U6 to U7 games with expansions do offer a longer, bigger and more epic and satisfying experience overall, Ultima 8, if taken for what it is, is definitely a world class game and one that I'm sad that no expansion game was made (although it was planned but ditched due to the public outcry of U8 at the time, less than expected sales). What a shame. This game also showed how much Garriot really appreciated his fans that he'd work long hours to improve the game and help reconnect to his fanbase.

update: you know on second thought...I think his patch was actually released more than 2 years past the original game release. I remember thinking how surprised everyone was that there was a new patch. Anyone remember exactly?

[Retarded Fly]

i need help, when i install U8 it says "you may not have enouhg memory to install this game. hit any butan to exit" so i do and i fill out the sound card and all and hit install thin......nothing happins. the window goes dawn and NOTHING HAPPINS :wall:.
so if you know what to do help me. :help:
P.S. i have win XP.

[Guest]

O. i got it now never mind.
:ok:

[uffbulle]

completely agree with the long post above:)

i actually never finished the game because of those stupid jump parts, and lost interest before hearing about the patch..now i can enjoy the game like i should've..6 years ago!

[Guest]

DAMN IT STILL DONT WERK :wall: :not_ok:
help still wonted.

[Retarded Fly]

DAMN IT STILL DONT WERK :wall: :not_ok:
help still wonted.

[Retarded Fly]

I need help damn. :wall:
I cant get the VDMsound any ware. its gon!
and the DOSBOX how do you use that?
I install it and nothing happins.
so if any one knows what to do HELP ME!!!
:sniper: :ok:

[Retarded Fly]

I DID IT!!!!! :D
YAS!!!!!! IT WERKS IT WERKS!!!!!!!
I GOT IT TO WERK. finely. after 2 years it werks thanks all. :cheers:
:ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok:
:D :D :D LOL

[Guest]

but no sound. i got music. but no sound.
and what are the controls?

[Sleepy Emp]

Ok, some advice:

To install the game if the installer fails in WinXP try using DosBox. Mount your root directory as drive F for example and start the installer. Change the destination path so that it would start with F:\ (to something like F:\Ultima8) and do not forget to set up the sound.

Running the game is a different matter. If you use DosBox, you will get full sound but the game speed will depend on the speed of your CPU. You may use the boot disk (load the computer in DOS mode and start the game as you would 6 years ago). This will require setting up the correct DOS drivers for your sound card and working a bit more with the game installer. Or you could use the program called U8Win9x, which patches the game and lets you play directly under Win9x, WinME and WinXP. Note that in this case you will need to set up the VDMSound utility as well. I myself couldn’t get it to work correctly(maybe simply because the installer got corrupt finally :) ) All I could squeeze out of it was the music, but the sound effects would not play.

Hope that helps!

[Rebecca]

Tried DosBox first, but things were too choppy for me to handle. [And WHY does such an old game need SO much memory?! Bah!]

So now I'd like to try Pentagram.

I've downloaded all the stuff I need, but I do not understand the directions for setting it up. I need some Pentagram 101. Explicit directions. No, not that kind of explicit.

Can anyone help? Is there a site out there that already does what I'm looking for?

Rebecca
redhotkitchen at earthlink.net

[Mad-E-Fact]

How about reading the FAQ on the Pentagram homepage for starters? Pentagram isn't complete anyway, so you're still stuck with using DosBox. Try increasing the CPU cycles to speed the game up, and read the Guide on this forum. ;)

[KamisamaVX]

To the guy needing help running this game in DOSBOX.

Ok, This might help you out a bit. I'm another person having trouble with this game. After hours of messing around with the settings, these seem to work the best for me on my 1.2 ghz machine.

CPU=Simple
Dos memory=16 MB
Render Method=Surface
Resolution=320x200
Scale=none
Frameskip=3
cycles=8000 <----- YES, 8000. This is all the game really needs. This will save your computer precious CPU power to use helping to emulate other things. Like sound.
Sample rate=11025
Turn off all sound emulation except soundblaster.
Turn off joystick support.
XMS=on
EMS=off

Granted, unless you have 2gh plus this won't get the game running anything close to smooth, but the game IS playable like this.

[dwarfo]

Nice game. Very nice, but the ultima online 2D is also very nice game. :Titan:

[Avatar]

how could i get hooked up with ultima 5?
Also is there a second operating program, like exult for ultima 7
and nuvie for 6?

[Mad-E-Fact]

You can find all the Ultimas that are not (yet) on Abandonia here:

http://www.abandonware-france.org/

It's a French site, but most of the games are in English anyway.

I'm not aware of an emulation program for U5 that would actually work, but you can run it in DosBox, if that helps.

[Guest]

Originally posted by KamisamaVX@Apr 7 2005, 09:55 PM
To the guy needing help running this game in DOSBOX.

Ok, This might help you out a bit. I'm another person having trouble with this game. After hours of messing around with the settings, these seem to work the best for me on my 1.2 ghz machine.

CPU=Simple
Dos memory=16 MB
Render Method=Surface
Resolution=320x200
Scale=none
Frameskip=3
cycles=8000 <----- YES, 8000. This is all the game really needs. This will save your computer precious CPU power to use helping to emulate other things. Like sound.
Sample rate=11025
Turn off all sound emulation except soundblaster.
Turn off joystick support.
XMS=on
EMS=off

Granted, unless you have 2gh plus this won't get the game running anything close to smooth, but the game IS playable like this.
Thankyou! After years of waiting, i can finally play it again!

[Roan]

Th emusic doesnt work for me. :angry: i mean the sound works and even when i turn music on it doesnt work :ranting:

[The Boing]

Set the music options to general midi, like Roland SC or Roland RAP-10 then it should work when in Dosbox

[Guest]

Hey you guys when i want to play the game, it does start up, the game says I dont have a compatible mouse driver installed....?

I have windows 1998 se, perhaps somebody knows what's wrong??

[Blobb]

Dosbox, dude, Dosbox. Already looked on the main page?

[Mad-E-Fact]

Does DOSBox work with Win98? I don't think so...

[Nakaric]

Sure it does

[hessekopp]

nimm 4 wochen urlaub und spiel dieses spiel!!!!!! wer es nicht kennt, der sollte die nachholen!!!!!!! jepp

[STLMuffinMan]

Hey guys, I'm glad I found this site. I've been looking for a copy of Pagan for a while. I can't seem to figure out how to download from the site though. Any help?

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by STLMuffinMan@May 30 2005, 02:27 AM
Hey guys, I'm glad I found this site. I've been looking for a copy of Pagan for a while. I can't seem to figure out how to download from the site though. Any help?
Sorry, you can't download the game any more. Here's why: http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5252

[Mr. Cheese]

Hey, I own ultima 8 and it installs fine and starts up fine following the installation. But when i try to run it again after i quit out of it, it says it is suffering from an incomplete installation, and i can't play it. I don't feel like having to reinstall the game every time i want to load it up.
I tried downloading the french version hoping it would be in english, but it's not (i am currently studying french, but i aint that great at it).
any suggestions as to how to fix this "incomplete installation" problem? :wall:

[Gamefreak]

Yes, when you install the game under Windows or DosBox, it breaks up in the middle of uncompressing the shapes file. The only thing that could help there is to install the game in pure Dos and only after that play it in DosBox. :)

[lajotero]

where can i download ultima 8???

[A. J. Raffles]

Erm, didn't you read the previous posts in this thread? :blink:
You can't download the game because it's ESA-protected.

[Tom Henrik]

Uploaded a bunch of scans for the game, including a couple from the Speech Pack :D

[Ray_pal (sorry for my baaaaad en]

I´ve that mouse driver problem too. But my computer isn´t so fast to run this game under dosbox-it´s celeron 333, 32 ram and win 95 (realy museal LOL).
What i´ve to do? Thx for your help.

REALY GOOD SITE, GUYS! DON´T GIVE IT UP! :Brain: :Brain: :Brain:

[Deeter]

I forogt I had this game still, looked in my cd holder that I have had games in and there was ultima 8 pagan still along with day of the tentacle on cd as well from long ago ( and some others like wing commander). Wish I still had Sam and Max on CD.

[siv9939]

I got this game in a Ultima collection thing several years ago and I didn't realy like it that much. Its just that in all of the previous Ultima games you had a party with you and it was kind of disapointing not having that.

[KEVIN]

HOW CAN I DOWNLOAD THIS GAME PAGAN ULTIMA 8

[Guest]

HOW CAN I BUY IT THEN?
ONLINE

[red_avatar]

Ebay sells it now and then - look for the Ultima Collection, it's worth buying.

[Guest_Hades]

I got this game woth my PC in 1994. But I finish the game only in 2004. Ten years... it's a dream coming to reality... :D

[Gamefreak]

My dream would have come to reality if the expansion for Ultima 8 would ever has been released. But there isn't even any fan-work for that... *sigh*

[Guest]

Setting frame skip to 3 will help improve speed.

This is the first RPG/Adventure game I'd ever played back then, and I simply LOVED it. I'd played it so much that the entire map of Pagan, with even the little details, was memorized in my brain. I don't understand why some people don't like it as much as the previous Ultima games, it also deserves praise.

[Gamefreak]

Originally posted by Guest@Sep 2 2005, 02:51 AM
This is the first RPG/Adventure game I'd ever played back then, and I simply LOVED it. I'd played it so much that the entire map of Pagan, with even the little details, was memorized in my brain. I don't understand why some people don't like it as much as the previous Ultima games, it also deserves praise.
Exactly my words. This game is in quite some elements new and superior to the previous series. The dark mood created by music, the good animations for spells and combat, the grand story and the mysterious and interesting world this game was simply beautiful. I also remember all the locations of Pagan completely. :D

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Guest@Sep 2 2005, 02:51 AM
Setting frame skip to 3 will help improve speed.

This is the first RPG/Adventure game I'd ever played back then, and I simply LOVED it. I'd played it so much that the entire map of Pagan, with even the little details, was memorized in my brain. I don't understand why some people don't like it as much as the previous Ultima games, it also deserves praise.
If my character is in a battle with characters that can cast any number of spells, shifting instantly, at a moment's notice, but I can't do that--having to root through a backpack in realtime--then something is wrong. And if I have to jump from stone to stone to cross a river, and whatever level of character I have, if I click accidentally with a mouse in the wrong place my character drowns--I've got better things to do, and other games to play.

[Gamefreak]

Luckily for you, there are other games that you can play that don't require patience from you like this one. Not all people obviously know that there is a savegame-feature and that some games require little patience and interest to be enjoyed... :rolleyes:

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Gamefreak@Sep 2 2005, 02:57 PM
Luckily for you, there are other games that you can play that don't require patience from you like this one. Not all people obviously know that there is a savegame-feature and that some games require little patience and interest to be enjoyed...* :rolleyes:
ROFL! Even luckier for me, tbere are many people who understand that when feature-level aspects of a game are asinine, the answer isn't to tell folks, "Go play your saved game again and again from that point until you agree to like the feature." :whistle:

[Weta]

I know this game isn't downloadable here, but I thought I'd just help out all those people with the .c error in their installs.

The reason this happens is because the simulated DOS environment you've created with DOSbox is incorrectly structured. Presumably to load the disk you have mounted D: as D:, but now you are telling the program to write to your C: drive, which DOSbox has never heard of. To get around this, mount both disks, using a frontend if this is all a bit confusing (I recommend D-Fend).

Once you have both C: and D: mounted (as literally themselves), voila.

[Swarog]

I actually own the game, have the original box with pentagram coin and map, but on diskettes!! All 8 are accounted for but nr. 7 seems to have some glitch so it doesn't install... :( I loved it.

[BLOODUK]

I used to play this game so many times and for so long, it was one of
the best ultima's in the series

[Swarog]

Okay, couldn't resist. After getting two spanissh version i finally got ahold of an english one. Downloaded this Dosbox-thingie too, and even got the came running. Slow as hell, the music is choppy, and it only displays in a window the size of my palm... using XP btw... tried running it straight from the XP DOS promt but got some error message or other. Pressing f7,f8,f11,f12 does absolutely nothing.... oh well... :ranting:

[Guest]

Is there some free-download links ?

[Gamefreak]

Originally posted by Swarog@Sep 14 2005, 10:38 PM
Okay, couldn't resist. After getting two spanissh version i finally got ahold of an english one. Downloaded this Dosbox-thingie too, and even got the came running. Slow as hell, the music is choppy, and it only displays in a window the size of my palm... using XP btw... tried running it straight from the XP DOS promt but got some error message or other. Pressing f7,f8,f11,f12 does absolutely nothing.... oh well... :ranting:
Maximize the DosBox to full screen with ALT+Enter, and increase the speed of DosBox emulation, thus the speed of the game, with CTRL+F12 (decrease with CTRL+F11). ;)
And don't play it in Windows XP, complete waste of time. :max:

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by Guest@Sep 15 2005, 02:44 PM
Is there some free-download links ?
No, sorry.

[need help]

hey i have pagan on CD and i ahve DOS box and can install te game fine but when i try to run it, it says program halted by code, does anyone know how to fix it?

thanks

[Gamefreak]

When you install the game from CD, it has to decompress the shapes-file at the first start, and if the decompression isn't finished because freezed, as it is the case in DosBox, then the game isn't playable anymore - file damaged, and you need to install it again.
And if you start the game first time in Windows XP or Windows 98, the game won't even start there, so there is a dilemma.
You would need a boot-disc with pure DOS to start the game first time and let it decompress the shapes-file completely, but be sure to set the sound and music as "none" in the setup before running it, as the game starts afterwards and in boot disc there are no drivers for soundcard unless you add some yourself. And you need to let the game start after unpacking to complete the it. After that you can quit the game via ALT+X and run the game without problems in DosBox from now on.

[Meganekko]

HOW CAN I DOWNLOAD THE GAME!?!

I want to get the Ultima 7 & 8 on this site, but there is no link in the page to download the file!

CLICK HERE FOR A LOOK! (http://www.abandonia.com/games/en/135/Ultima8Pagan.htm)

When I went to that page, it says uploaded by Freddy, but where can I download it? There's no link, no button, nothing~!

Do I need to register to the site? Log-in to make a "download button" appear? Or is it written in a font too small for the naked eye?

[Blood-Pigggy]

Okay, I won't insult your intelligence, but the ESA No-Go! Button speaks for itself.
If you don't know what the ESA is, then you should at least understand No-Go!
You won't find a chance of downloading it here, or receiving a link.

Feel free to browse through the other games (There are tons of them, many of them are great) and download the ones that aren't ESA protected.

[Gamefreak]

Or try other sites that have these games for download unlike this one. ;)

[Sebatianos]

But be careful - there are sites there that are offering it - but shouldn't! :angry:

[Limecat is not Pleased]

Well, I have a different problem from any listed so far. I've been playing the game for about two days now. I am running it in DosBox, speed is good, no problems getting it to run. I'm enjoying it quite a bit--even the jumping isn't all that bad.

However, I have just hit the second spot in which the game completely locks up. The first time was in the Palace Dungeon as soon as I read Bendic's diary, which was in the evidence room. Restored, played around with DosBox, did some different things in the game, went back and BAM! Same thing. Looking at a walkthrough, apparently I am supposed to be arrested here by three guards, so I think that it's locking on an animation .

Temporary fix was to not read the diary and play around that plot line. Unfortunately, it's just happened again when I finally meet Lithos in the Hall of the Mountain King. This is especially irritating because, if you've played the game, you know that if you miss the side passages and go straight through, you get teleported back to the beginning and have to go through the caves (and the jumping bits) all over again.

I missed the side passages. This is a bad thing. :ranting: :ranting: :ranting:

So after hours in the caves, I finally run panting through a gauntlet of ghouls and skeletons. Lithos appears, I made it, I'm happy--and the game locks up. I'm thinking another animation is the trigger.

I doubt anyone can help. If you have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it. At least I got it running and had some fun with it. I don't know if anyone here has played far enough through recently to know if this is a common problem.

Wow, this is a long post. Well, if it helps anyone else--do not, and I mean do not, step on the giant rune stone in the caverns until you have found Lithos. Limecat was fit to be tied.

http://limecat.net/

[moogle]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Sep 27 2005, 03:36 PM
But be careful - there are sites there that are offering it - but shouldn't! :angry:
Well said...
Everybody throw rotten vegetables at the pirate GameFreak!!!

[Limecat is not Pleased]

Oh, one more thing.

Everyone having problems with the speed, don't use the CTRL-F8/F12. It just makes it choppy. Instead, try using the DosBox Config. Change the line reading cycles=(number) to at least 10000 or 11000. I have it on 13000. Then Save and Run.

I also think the game has a memory leak so if it begins to lag, exit and restart.

[Swarog]

Originally posted by Limecat is not Pleased@Sep 30 2005, 03:22 AM
Instead, try using the DosBox Config. Change the line reading cycles=(number) to at least 10000 or 11000. I have it on 13000. Then Save and Run.
??? :eeeeeh: ???

the dosbox.conf file?

:whistle:
I'm an idiot, I know...

[Limecat is not Pleased]

If you're using DosBox 0.63, it should be in your program bar so Start-Programs-DosBox-0.63-DosBox.conf. The config file will open in Notepad. If it isn't on your bar, then look for dosbox.conf in your DosBox folder and open it with Notepad. As always, make a backup of the original before editing it.

Another thing I changed was to run it fullscreen. Just change the fullscreen=false attribute to true.

I figured out my problem with the locking up. It has something to do with the speech pack. So right before I hit the problem spots, I turn everything off in the Options (just to be safe). No music, no sound effects=no problems. Once I've gotten past the point and saved, I turn them back on again.

Limecat is very happy. LOL

[Gamefreak]

Originally posted by moogle@Sep 30 2005, 03:17 AM
Well said...
Everybody throw rotten vegetables at the pirate GameFreak!!!
Who needs, will find, no matter how others like you think about it. The matter of legality or not is up to everybody self to resolve. As long as there are sources, there are people who use them. Ever tasted rotten vegetables yourself? ;)

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Gamefreak@Sep 30 2005, 10:12 PM
The matter of legality or not is up to everybody self to resolve.
So if I decide to show up at your front door with a baseball bat and start smashing your knee caps into dust and I'm convinced that's not illegal, the police can't touch me? Cool - I'm feeling rather violent at the moment.

Look, like you said. As long as there are sources, there will be people using them - but we won't be a part of it, so one more post like that one!

[Gamefreak]

Feeling defensive because you're helpless against software piracy? I didn't post any link here, so no need for "baseball bat", eventhough you're free to appear before my door and see what you'll archieve. And my point is my point, it's my right to speak it off. Discussion better over here.

[Swarog]

I guess I just have to face it.. A pentium II just isn't enough to play U8 via DosBox... :cry:

[Blood-Pigggy]

Definetly not.
What OS are you using? It's most likely that if it's something older you could run it off of the system normally. If you haven't tried it already.

[Limecat is not Pleased]

Swarog, it should run on a Pentium II as long as you have at least 64 MB of Ram. According to the guy that wrote the program to run it in Windows:

"Disclaimer: Despite extremely encouraging testing results, it cannot be guaranteed that this program will work for all users and in all hardware configurations. So far it works well in Windows 95, 98, ME and Windows 2000/XP. It has worked with processor speeds from 166 to 800, and RAM from 64 to 768 Mb."

Have you tried his program? If not, give it a shot. The only problem with it is that it is a b****h to get a modern soundcard working in it, but you might not have that problem.

You can download it from:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rsd/U7inWindows.html

[Swarog]

Thanks guys, I'll look into this one last time once I get home from the shops.

I'm running XP on a Pentium II, and with dosbox I got the game and sound working, but if I get the sound to stream fluently the game is veeeeeeery slow and choppy, and even at best the game runs too slow to play without losing interest before even reaching the docks in the beginnng. RAM shouldn't be a problem, I have 128Mb.

[Gamefreak]

Originally posted by Limecat is not Pleased@Oct 2 2005, 01:51 PM
Swarog, it should run on a Pentium II as long as you have at least 64 MB of Ram. According to the guy that wrote the program to run it in Windows:

"Disclaimer: Despite extremely encouraging testing results, it cannot be guaranteed that this program will work for all users and in all hardware configurations. So far it works well in Windows 95, 98, ME and Windows 2000/XP. It has worked with processor speeds from 166 to 800, and RAM from 64 to 768 Mb."

Have you tried his program? If not, give it a shot. The only problem with it is that it is a b****h to get a modern soundcard working in it, but you might not have that problem.

You can download it from:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rsd/U7inWindows.html
Actually, that's for Ultima 7. The thread is about Ultima 8, though...

[Swarog]

Originally posted by Gamefreak+Oct 2 2005, 05:08 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Gamefreak @ Oct 2 2005, 05:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Limecat is not Pleased@Oct 2 2005, 01:51 PM
Swarog, it should run on a Pentium II as long as you have at least 64 MB of Ram.* According to the guy that wrote the program to run it in Windows:

"Disclaimer: Despite extremely encouraging testing results, it cannot be guaranteed that this program will work for all users and in all hardware configurations. So far it works well in Windows 95, 98, ME and Windows 2000/XP. It has worked with processor speeds from 166 to 800, and RAM from 64 to 768 Mb."

Have you tried his program?* If not, give it a shot.* The only problem with it is that it is a b****h to get a modern soundcard working in it, but you might not have that problem.

You can download it from:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~rsd/U7inWindows.html
Actually, that's for Ultima 7. The thread is about Ultima 8, though... [/b][/quote]
Yes, but to the left is a link to the same program for Ultima 8, so it was only off by a page. THANKS Limecat!

Okay now, here we go.

Thanks to this nifty program I can get U8 to work straight from XP, the speed is good and all is well in the Land of Nod. Almost.

To get the sound to work I had to download VDMSound v. 2.1.0. BUT all I get is either a garbled mish-mash of digital squeaks(when sound and music is set to use SoundBlaster). I can get music by using setting it to use MIDI (in U8's install) and can live with that, but would also like sound effects.. I set the music to still use MIDI but tried setting the effects to use SoundBlaster, this resulted in the game crashing in the intro when the first digital sounds are to begin(The Guardian's hand is about to appear). I'm now going to play around with this some more and see if I can get it to work in some way, tho.

[Guest]

"(Personal note: for reasons quoted above, digital sound will not seem to work in U8. I can get it to run tolerably well if I specify "no sound card" - you get text on screen - and Sound Blaster or General Midi for music.)

This is from Ron Windeyer's page that Limecat so kindly directed us to. So it seems we can get music but no digital sound effects. Bummer, but at least I can now play the game!! YES!!!

Thanks again Limecat, I can now vanish into the world of Pagan for the forseeable future! :ok:

[Limecat is not Pleased]

Yay! I don't know why, but the U8 page has the same URL as the U7 page. I noticed that after I posted, but I knew you guys were smart enough to figure it out. Well, most of you. :D

As an FIY, I couldn't get the sound effects working for more than a second or two in DoxBox either, and if you see my above post, having sound effects checked iin the Options locked up the game for me in some key spots. From what I heard, they don't add hugely to the game so I was happy enough without them, but I know what it's like to have to get EVERYTHING working or it just isn't right.

Glad you got it working. Hours of gooey, gaming goodness.

[Limecat is not Pleased]

One more thing. Make sure that if you don't have the patched version that you install the patch before playing. The patch deletes all your save games. You can tell if you have the patched version if you find a key ring in the barrels next to the docks.

[Swarog]

Originally posted by Limecat is not Pleased@Oct 2 2005, 08:46 PM
One more thing. Make sure that if you don't have the patched version that you install the patch before playing. The patch deletes all your save games. You can tell if you have the patched version if you find a key ring in the barrels next to the docks.
Yup, that's the version I have :D Seems I have to run the game without music as well, as the game crashes suddenly and without warning or error message if I have even MIDI music on. Oh well, luckily I have a good CD collection :)

BTW: Just got blown up by Beren for trying to steal his obsidian coins :D

[Limecat is not Pleased]

Yes, Beren will teleport in and blow you up if you steal from anyone in town and get caught. The blacksmith ratted me out when I tried to steal a scimitar and BOOM! Pieces of avatar everywhere.

I'm having a problem with the video now. It didn't start until fairly late in the game and I'm not sure if it's supposed to be part of the game because you have to sacrifice your sight after you become a theurgist (Nice, huh?) The screen periodically flashes and the colors turn gray. When someone gets around the point where you go to Daemon's Crag, can you post and let me know if you are getting this as well? I think it has to be a bug because it's so bad that it gives me a headache. Thanks.

[Guest]

I almost finished U8 back in the nineties, (got stuck in Demon's crag with the pentacle spells..) and I sure can't remember that... sounds like a bug to me, but I can't be 100% certain.

[Alcoolocaust]

i have the original game (cd version). the first time i launch it under dosbox it works perfectly, then every time i try to launch the game again it says that there is an incomplete installation and quit. there is someone who can help me? :help:

well... i say only another thing.. Ultima 8 is the best
you know... it was my first rpg :D

[Alcoolocaust]

ok.. reading all post i found that i have to launch u8 the first time under dos. i try but the program quits for an "abnormal error" or something like that.
ah... my boot disk was made with your system_disk.exe...
Any clues?? :help: :help: :help:

[Arduinna]

I love this game. I never got very far when I first played it years and years ago. I believe our old computer crashed while I was searching out the necromancers.

Then I managed to get it working on our win98 machine, only thing was, it would lock up when Lothian was being killed, and the screen shook, etc etc. Never could get past there.

Now I have a very nice machine, and the game works grand with dosbox, only problem is that its still locking up at the same place. :(

Any suggestions on how to fix this?

[Gamefreak]

Do you play an own version of you? Download the patch for Ultima 8 from Origin/EA from this site: Phyton.dk (http://www.phyton.dk/ultima/)
Maybe then the game will be able to proceed at the point with Lothian. You'll need to start the game anew after the patch, though.

[JimDandy]

I've been playing in DosBox. Seems to work good at around 10000 cpu cycles. At less cycles, obviously it runs slower. What's odd is that at higher cycles, it also slows down. Probably not enough resources on my machine to go any higher. I just tweak the cycles until the music/sound effects don't stutter.
** Little spoiler if you haven't played the Ultimas **
Ahhh but I have to mention one thing! In the review, you state:
"Avatar is the character you have been playing since Ultima I."
Shame on you! Avatar is the character you have been playing since the end of Ultima IV! In Ultima I-IV, he was called The Stranger, and only at the very end of Ultima IV did he become the Avatar! I'm shocked! LOL

[Rutabaga]

I've got a question I haven't seen covered here yet...

I'm using Dosbox to try to get U8 running, and it's all fine and well until I actually try to play the game. When I try to run U8, I get this error message, "this game cannot be run in DOS mode."

?

I'm running Dosbox on OSX and have piles of everything I should have piles of... any thoughts?

[inotoni]

U8 was a disappointment compared to U7s. I actually finished the game back then without patch! U know.. with the crazy jumping. Looking forward to when Pentagram finishes.

I'm running Dosbox on OSX and have piles of everything I should have piles of... any thoughts?
I don't think most of us have experience running U8 under Mac. :bye:

[miaou]

can somebody plz tell me WHY i cant download this thing??!

[Gamefreak]

Because ESA demanded this site to remove the game for download. They want to keep the copyrights on this game themselves.

[denis]

Originally posted by Rutabaga@Nov 27 2005, 02:59 AM
I've got a question I haven't seen covered here yet...

I'm using Dosbox to try to get U8 running, and it's all fine and well until I actually try to play the game. When I try to run U8, I get this error message, "this game cannot be run in DOS mode."

?

I'm running Dosbox on OSX and have piles of everything I should have piles of... any thoughts?
hey! I managed to make it run without problem on OSX 10.3... and quite smooth too (Considering that I only have a G3)... :/

maybe you have the wrong version.


now it would be nice to know how to move the character

[JimmyJ]

You move with the mouse! Yes, i know, the moveing controls are horrible!

[Guest]

I got U8 on my first PC, on 1994. It was a red CD with Ultima8, Syndicate Plus, Strike Commander and Wing Commander II. But I was too young, and never made many things on the game. but, last year, I've download the game and a patch to run U8 on WinXP (it wasn't DosBox). I've play the game without sound and very slow (the patch wasn't so good), but I finish the game! After 10 years! It's a great game! I recommendo for everyone.

[Guest]

PS.: someone have the "Lengendary" red Cd with U8, Sundicate Plus, Strike Commander and Wing Commander II? I have this since 1994, and the manual too!

[Gamefreak]

Well, I have the legendary CD of Ultima 8 only, in a orange flamepainted package with the pentagram and the gamename written above, and the CD is half-red, half-black, with Pyros coming out of his lava circle on the red side. It doesn't contain a patch, is the original version with the arcade jumping.

[fictionz]

i downloaded it but couldn't play it, a 16-bit ms-dos app error it says, wonderin if it's coz i'm using XP but.... can anyone help?

[Gamefreak]

Of course playing Ultima 8 in Windows XP is the worst thing possible. This game is buggy enough already, and trying to play it in any Windows version will make it crash before starting. Play it in DosBox instead, you can get to it's download site through a link on this site, at the Programs section. Don't forget to increase the CPU cycles in DosBox (CTRL-F12 or edit dosbox.conf) to at least 8000 when playing the game, otherwise it will be little too slow.

[red_avatar]

I got this game from a friend back in 1994 and loved it but it was really daunting in size and options. I was just starting to learn English back then, and a lot of the books I could only half read, which had a serious impact on the background of the story. Not to mention that I never actually got out of the city because it was so big :P

I really need to replay this - tested all Ultima games on DOSBOX yesterday (succesfully except for Akalabeth which won't work) so that's a good thing :). I still need to play Ultima IX - vastly underrated, even if it's buggy in places.

[Gamefreak]

I played Ultima 9. To be honest, I liked the previous Ultima parts more, especially Ultima 6. They made more fun than Ultima IX.

[Mythran]

So.. I think that I do not need to say a word from this game, isn't???
My all time coolest game in all the universe... surely!!!

I also 'learn' how to speak, understand and even pronounce english on this one...
I'm thinking on play this game on the other languages to be an expert on other languages
:D

But this game is so perfect... the interactivity, the fun, the story, all!!!!!!!!!!! :Brain:

The UO and the Ultima VII are also great games... but The VIII Pagan is no match!! Also... the IX Ascension it's a cool game... but don't even close with the UO, VII, and of course, The VIII Pagan!!!!
:D

[Guest]

Help i wanna download the game but i'm having issues

[Doubler]

You can't download it, it's ESA protected. (http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=esaprotected)

ESA info (http://www.theesa.com/about/index.php)

[Guest]

Thanx i live in South Africa i played it years ago and am looking for somewhere to get it!

[punch999]

Try Ebay

[Zirocrath]

I don't get it. I checked ESA members list... ORIGIN Systems Inc. is not part of them anymore... why would you still keep protecting the game?

[Supermot]

Originally posted by Guest@Dec 15 2005, 01:39 AM
PS.: someone have the "Lengendary" red Cd with U8, Sundicate Plus, Strike Commander and Wing Commander II? I have this since 1994, and the manual too!
Yeah I have that one! Ultima 8 is pretty much the only good game on that though, except sydicate which is kind of cool.

[Guest]

origin systems inc is a division of ea games

[Gamefreak]

Or better said, bought back then by Electronic Arts which is called EA Games now.

[outlaw80]

How can get this game from this site ??

is there a link to a downloadsection ??

[Moe]

Hi, i love the work on this website and this game is one of them best i have ever played....

it worked perfectly with DosBox sound and speed and i'm on windows XP.. i have the original legendary red cd with wing comander and syndicate plus.

the only problem and i hope someone can help is that i can only play it once... one i try to replay the game it says " rest avatar you will need it" and i need to re-install in order to replay.. of course i keep my save files and insert them in everytime to continue but its gotten a bit tedious if you know what i mean. what can i do?

[Gamefreak]

You just needed to look few pages back though this thread to find a post that mentions that problem: Page 9 (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=455&view=findpost&p=158011)

[Mark1233414]

I can´t download the game.
I see no button.
If anybody knows what´s the problem, please tell me.

[Blood-Pigggy]

You can't download the game.
It's impossible, you never will.
It's protected, which the BUTTON SAYS.

ESA No-Go = You can't download it! Lawl!

[Moe]

Originally posted by Gamefreak@Apr 1 2006, 02:47 PM
You just needed to look few pages back though this thread to find a post that mentions that problem: Page 9 (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=455&view=findpost&p=158011)
I read the the whole forum.. the problem is i dont know how to creat a boot disk.. i'm no computer whiz... just a guy who liked ultima8.

i hope you can help me in telling me how to creat this boot disk with dos in it so i can let the came decompress the file fully... because i'm reinstalling the game everytime i want to play :( and its very tiring putting in my saved files and taking them out everytime i play.

thanks in advance

[The Fifth Horseman]

Simple, you can download a ready-made one from Abandonia.

[ultima 8 > me]

Im trying to install off my c drive and have tried all sorts of methods to try get it to install but alas i cannot. I keep getting instal.c - 558 .

Any ideas would be appreciated.

[Guest]

Hello, i'm still having the same problem where i can only play the game once and i need to re-install everytime.. someone requested i use defend so i can mount the different drives but i'm still having problems with it..

would someone please explain to me how i can mount the drives using defend.
i'd appreciate it greatly.... thanks a lot in advance

[bgf]

hi im new to this site...
when i'm trying to download u8 it says

This game is under protection of ESA (entertainment software association) and it CAN NOT BE DOWNLOADED! We also can't provide you with information on where or how to get it.

You can find more about The ESA here. If you ended up here you probably requested a game from one of the game production companies that are members of The ESA.

You can find the list of ESA members here and get in touch with the company who's game you would like to obtain.

Any further inquiries regarding this matter can be directed here.



how can i download it???? :cheers:

[ReamusLQ]

Originally posted by bgf@May 20 2006, 07:42 PM
how can i download it???? :cheers:
Simple, you can't! ESA protected means the copyright is still held and protected by a company called the ESA to make sure the game can't be freely distributed. Sorry, and welcome to the site! :bye:

[The Fifth Horseman]

it CAN NOT BE DOWNLOADED! We also can't provide you with information on where or how to get it
have you noticed this part at all?
WE CANNOT PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION WHERE / HOW TO OBTAIN IT ILLEGALLY!!!

[guesst]

I guess that ESA NoGo button isn't clear enough. Maybe it should be changed to say:

The ESA does not allow download of this program. To comply with law this site has removed the download link for all ESA protected programs. You can not download this program here or anywhere on this site, nor can we help you find a copy of this program for download. Please do not spam our message boards with requests for where to find ESA protected software. You may want to try eBay and see if anyone's selling. Other than that, please we can't help. Sorry. If you persist in buggin us about it our admins may excercise the right to ban your IP. NO ABANDONIA FOR YOU

Now we just need to fit that into the same size as the download button.

[The Fifth Horseman]

I think that "ESA protected. Do not ask how/where to download it." would suffice.

[sunkenstate]

Ok, I am supremely glad to announce that using Ron Windeyer's patch, I've got U8 up and running. However, the whole thing feels like it is in slow motion. Is there anyway to speed up the game's frame rate? Also, im using a IBM thinkpad R40, with an integrated sound/music card. Any idea how to set this up properly in the game so I can hear fx and music? Thanks!

[Pagan Guru]

I have start to play that game in 1994 with a 386 at 40MHz, with a VGA card of 2MB and PC memory at 8MB.
To day, i still to play that game.

Believe me, until to day, there is not an equal game like Pagan.
The magic, is magic, if you want magic & power, you have to enter in to the mystery of mysticycm.
Have you seen other games?
The magic is like candys from super market.

Just live in the world of Pagan, let your minds travel under the mystery cape of that game.

When you do your first spell, you will undrstund, why the games of today are not good.

If you are good players, i will tell you how to kill the Titans permanently.

The speech speed depends from the option of speech speed.

The game speed depends from CPU, i have a Pentium I MMX 266MHz, the game runs so fast...i must to fix the runing speed option becose the Avatar falls in to the watter all the time.

CU mortal ones

[locool]

I first played this game when it originally came out in '94, and I'm ashamed to admit that it ran too slowly on my computer so I payed out money I couldn't afford to upgrade it 'sigh'. Superficially it looks better than the previous Ultima's, and I think this is what sucked me in, but ULTIMAtely (forgive the pun) IMO it is inferior to the previous ones in the series with it's emphasis on jumping etc. Sadly a foretaste of what was to come, which resulted with the series ending in a whimper rather than a bang with Ultima XI Ascension (although I personally have not played the last one). Looking back, a magnificent series which is only marred slightly by the last two.

[locool]

I first played this game when it originally came out in '94, and I'm ashamed to admit that it ran too slowly on my computer so I payed out money I couldn't afford to upgrade it 'sigh'. Superficially it looks better than the previous Ultima's, and I think this is what sucked me in, but ULTIMAtely (forgive the pun) IMO it is inferior to the previous ones in the series with it's emphasis on jumping etc. Sadly a foretaste of what was to come, which resulted with the series ending in a whimper rather than a bang with Ultima IX Ascension (although I personally have not played the last one). Looking back, a magnificent series which is only marred slightly by the last two.

PS got the numerals for Ultima Ascension round the wrong way so posted twice.

[Pagan Guru]

Yesterday, i have post a message, now i have just finished the U8 for one more time.
The game the i have download yesterday have some...changes.

*The music is not the original music, they are remix files, but they are also good.

*In the mountain King's pass, the platforms does not move, this makes the game easyer.

*Avatar denides to jump some times, this also makes the game easyer becose if your action is incorect the Avatar stays still and you will not jump in to the watter.

*The entranse to the Moriens (Zealans) has 2 bugs, 1.The sighn inside stands to the air, 2. in the upper corner you will see glowing ligths, in this plase must exist an invisible chest, you must cast the "reveal" spell to see the chest, but reveal dosent do anything.

*The recall item works in the Daemons Crag, in the old version you have to go out to the catacombs, the recal item does not worked nowere in Daemons Crag.

*The pyramid black rock fragment, does not charge easy, you must droop it to the ground and then double click in to the Avatar, then you must to move it to unstuck it before you finish the game.

[Scatty]

That's because this is a version with a patch from Richard Garriott applied. I think though it would be much better if they ever brought out the addon for Ultima 8 that they intended previously, than this patch. The game was playable enough without it, but is admittedly better with it anyway.
As of Ultima 9, I played it and I'm disappointed. The previous Ultima parts are all better than it, the last part just doesn't have the feeling of the great Ultima world like in previous games in it, and it was close to boring. And the combats in Ultima IX are pitiable, there's Gothic very much better.

[Vaikunta]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Jun 24 2006, 02:45 AM) 239317</div>
That's because this is a version with a patch from Richard Garriott applied. I think though it would be much better if they ever brought out the addon for Ultima 8 that they intended previously, than this patch. The game was playable enough without it, but is admittedly better with it anyway.
As of Ultima 9, I played it and I'm disappointed. The previous Ultima parts are all better than it, the last part just doesn't have the feeling of the great Ultima world like in previous games in it, and it was close to boring. And the combats in Ultima IX are pitiable, there's Gothic very much better.
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It would be very nice if The Lost Vale actually came out. Only some images were published, and if you want I can post them. According to the manual, the Lost Vale was where Lithos imprisoned some Zealans and I think it was the destination you were supposed to get at the end, instead of Britannia.

I've played Ultima IX, and had enough patience to finish it, with a kinda nice ending. I hate EA, all was her fault, The Lost Vale and Ultima IX failure was caused by ignorants. If you want too, I can post the original plot to Ultima IX.

[Guest_Ian_*]

I think it's impossible to finish this game. After talking to Xavier about the first test in which you should read the books at the monastery but all I get are books on Theurgy magic. Those books Xavier talks about is not there. Looks like there's a problem with this patch. Anyone had the same problem??

[Scatty]

There's no problem with this patch. The books are always there, and you have to think twice before you find hints for the test in them, maybe you just overlooked them. Try searching at the second floor.

[Vaikunta]

Since no one used their speaking capabilities, I'm going to post the real plot of Ultima IX, to kill the curiosity that dissolved my interior and should dissolve other's interior, after having finished Pagan, the only thing I thought was "What happened?"... (hope I'm not going to be punished).

“Rather than releasing the whole script, which I could still get in trouble for, I will synopsize the plot for you. When I came on board at Origin, the original ideas for what they wanted from a script were in place but it had not been written yet. John Watson, Brian Martin and Richard did the first pass at it. I was given the script and told to find holes in it. We all worked together (along with Chuck Zoch, at that time a designer...now programmer) toward the first re-writes and clean ups.

So here goes:

(opening Flic) The Avatar arrives at the start of the game in Britannia. His last thoughts are of being seized by the Guardian in Pagan. Suddenly he was pulled away and arrives back in LB’s realm. Unfortunately he doesn’t recognize where he is. Standing on a mountain overlooking the Guardian’s keep at Terfin. This is where the wyrmguard suddenly flies up and incinerates the Avatar.

Cut to scene of dark throne room with Guardian in shadow talking to Blackthorn. Blackthorn is happy at the Avatar’s death but Guardian realizes he was teleported away by someone and is now in Stonegate. Blackthorn wants to go after him, but Guardian says to wait. He wants the Avatar to see how he is destroying Britannia and wants the Avatar to despair.

Game opens: Avatar in bed in Stonegate with Hawkwind nursing him. Just to be certain the Avatar is fit and unchanged by his trip to Pagan and the teleport back here, Hawkwind asks the virtue questions, setting up the Avatar character for the game. He then tells the Avatar about what has happened since he left 80 years ago (time in Pagan ran so much slower). Giant columns appear through out the land. Somehow the columns are affecting the climate, drying up some areas and flooding others, in addition there are tearing through the ground causing earthquakes and volcanism on a great scale. These climactic changes have caused wide spread famine in some parts of the world. In addition a plague began to run rampant through the land probably caused by the deplorable conditions. The people of Moonglow were able to produce limited quantities of food via magic, some of which the export through the land. Britain monks found that the venom of the Silver Serpent would provide relief from the plague, but was no cure. Something happened (you discover later) and Britain refused to send serpentwyne to Moonglow and Moonglow refused to send food to Britain. The army divided and civil war is at hand. He then tells the Avatar to descend into the tunnels under Stonegate and travel via those dungeon passages to Britain and see Lord British. Hawkwind disappears saying he must rest a long time now since the summoning drained him so. The area of Stonegate, now surrounded by mountains and cut off by the sea, provided the training or tutorial area for the new interface.

Along the way to Britain, the Avatar is knocked unconscious by a teleport area that he must go through. He receives a vision (flic). The Guardian taunts the Avatar and says he is glad he will be able to watch while he shows Lord British what the Avatar was up to in Pagan. LB is has a waking dream and sees the Avatar summoning Pyros.

Once the Avatar arrives in Britain he has already had to deal with one wyrmguard (Damon) and is probably wearing the armor. People in Britain run from him and once at the castle, Geoffrey asks him to get rid of it. LB confronts the Avatar and wants to know about the dream but accepts the ideas that the Avatar had to do what is necessary, but he seems disturbed none-the-less. LB informs the Avatar that the world is almost at the brink of civil war. LB’s health began to decline rapidly a few years ago so he appointed a tribunal. The leader of Moonglow mages (Verona), the leader of the Valorian knights (Sir Corwin), and the leader of the Britain monks (Amoranth). Things went well at first, but once the columns rose, famine set in and the plague appeared they would feud with each other all the time. then when the shipment of food, bought and paid for) failed to arrive in Britain Amoranth accused Verona of treason and inhumanity, Verona screamed the same story about a serpentwyne shipment. Ever since then the world fractured into a group of city states. LB is worried since Britain and Moonglow are building armies, one commanded by Corwin’s daughter and the other by his son. If it were not for Corwin’s cooling factor with their generals, they would already be at war. He implores the Avatar to stop the civil war, stop the famine and plague and he thinks the columns are at the root of it all. LB tires quickly and due to him being so old a frail, he can no longer command the respect of his armies or people anymore and he still thinks the Tribunal is the best thing for the country. LB warns the Avatar to stay away from Asylum, that is run by dangerous, treasonous thugs.

The Avatar finds Shamino in the Abbey in Britain in a trance. He has to use the Bell, Book and Candle to free him. He finds out from Shamino that the rangers disappeared a few years back and he felt an unholy call luring him away. He placed himself in the trance in hopes that if the Avatar returns he could wake him and the call would be no more. Shamino no longer feels the call and joins up with the Avatar.

The Avatar sets off for the closest column near Despise. On his way he is confronted by wyrmguards in camp. During the fight a girl jumps into the fray and ends up spearing a female wyrmguard through the eye and driving them off. The Avatar is grateful and she introduces herself as Raven. Raven was sent to find the Avatar and bring him back to Asylum (Buc’s Den) and meet with her boss Samhayne. He has some clues to the problems and he knows the Avatar is here to help solve them.

In Despise the free one of the corrupt runes of virtue from the column, thus stopping its power.

They journey back to Britain and then on to meet Samhayne. Samhayne is like a benevolent Don Corleone. He has been running contraband food and serpentwyne throughout the world, even running the blockades of Moonglow and Britain. He knows that the war is closer than anyone thinks, but proof must be taken to LB to get him to dissolve the tribunal and try to assume command. Samhayne is not trustworthy in Shamino’s view and he wants proof of what is going on. Samhayne tells the Avatar to journey to Valoria and meet with Corwin. He will tell you the truth. Then come back here and we will get things going.

He travels to Valoria with companions and goes to see Corwin. Corwin and his new aide Darkblade meet with the Avatar. He explains the situation and confirms Samhayne’s suspicions. The Avatar convinces the Lord of Valoria to send word to his kids to disarm and meet at a negotiation table. He agrees once the Avatar gets him over his despair. The Avatar heads back to Asylum and meets with Samhayne. He tells LB that he must get more proof of the war preparations so that LB can confront the factions. The only way he can find out for sure is to make contact with Sam’s guild operatives inside Britain and Moonglow and ’lift’ some papers. Some of the guild objects to an outsider making guild contact so Samhayne talks the Avatar into joining the guild. The Avatar is branded with the secret sign and is sent on his way to his choice Moonglow or Britain.

During the sea voyage he gets another third person dream (flic) courtesy of the Guardian. This time LB sees the Avatar joining the nefarious Guild and being branded. LB becomes more distraught and is now wondering about the Avatar.

The plot branches here but funnels back together quickly. Avatar goes to Moonglow/Britain. Makes contact with a guild operative and gets a disguise. He enters the Court of Truth/Abbey of Love and during his riffling of desks and such overhears Amoranth/Verona and their lackey Ebontyne/Shadowbriar discuss the war preparation. Whichever is gone to first, the Avatar escapes with no problem. When spying on the second one the Avatar is discovered and is captured and knocked unconscious.

Here is another dream (flic). This time LB sees the Avatar thrown in prison for spying on one of the Tribunal members. LB looks like he is getting angry now.

Back to the game: The Avatar awakens in Wrong. Ebontyne/Shadowbriar stands before the doorway and morphs into Blackthorn. He taunts the Avatar telling him that he has been behind all the seeds of war, planting them in the mind of Amoranth and Verona. He tells the Avatar that his only stumbling block is Sir Corwin who is trying to get his kids to a bargaining table, thanks to the Avatar’s meddling, and by this time tomorrow Corwin won’t be troubling anyone anymore. Blackthorn leaves and the Avatar and Raven (Also caught trying to free the Avatar while he was unconscious) their cell and dungeon (turning off another column along the way). the find Shamino outside and waiting. The run to find a ship and get to Sir Corwin as fast as they can, but by the time they arrive it is too late and he is already dead, but the body was stolen also. All that is left behind is an arrow.

Following the clue of the arrow and questioning Fletchers and Apothecaries (it was poisoned) leads to a description of the perpetrator, the female wyrmguard that Raven fought earlier. In addition one of the Apothecary is a medium and through a trance locates the body in the Well of Souls on the Ruined isle of Skara Brae. She tells the Avatar that a spell for speaking with dead cast upon the body would reveal the truth behind the assassination and that she foresees that this could stop the war. The Avatar and companions head to the Well, retrieve the body, fight a bone dragon lots of undead and turn off another column.

When they leave the dungeon a messenger arrives telling them the armies have taken the field near the shrine of justice. Avatar and friends hurry to the shrine in time to meet with Amoranth, Verona and the commanders. Verona casts the spell. Dead Corwin reveals that his lackey Darkblade is actually Ebontyne, Shadowbriar and Blackthorn and he is behind the war. Darkblade, who is in the tent, suddenly reverts to his Blackthorn form and the whole area is beset with wyrmguards and dragons. During the fight, Blackthorn exits kidnapping Amoranth and Verona and taunting the Avatar to come and get them at Terfin.

At the end of the fight Janna arrives with word that the other old companions awaits the Avatar in the sanctuary of Cove. They think they know where the Plague is coming from and what the columns are doing. The Avatar travels to Cove along the way another dream (flic). LB sees the Avatar stand before the armies of the world and now look to be swearing fealty to him. LB is furious as the Guardian whispers to him that the Avatar is planning to usurp the throne and seize Britannia. He will no longer allow the Avatar inside the Castle unless he has a member of the Tribunal with him.

Once in Cove the Avatar learns that the columns are causing the plague. As long as they are powered the plague will continue. In addition they are like clock springs, winding up. Even if they are unpowered their energy is not released. In time they will ’let go’ and quite possibly rip apart the world. They also have now received reports that the Guardian is massing his wyrmguard and gargoyle army and is planning on attacking Britain and other cities. They must perform a pre-emptive attack before all of his forces can muster. Samhayne will provide ships and the army is ready but they need and air force and the only thing that could help are the dragons of Destard.

The Avatar journeys to Trinisic and goes to see the Queen of the Dragons in nearby Destard. He has to rescue her and a clutch of eggs from some new wyrmguard raiders after which she agrees to help. Now with all the forces moving to place, the Avatar sets off for the other dungeons in order to turn off the remaining columns, except the Abyss. He needs one of the Gargoyle lenses from LB to open the path . Once they are done a ship arrives to take Avatar and companions to Terfin to meet the Guardian and Blackthorn.

Lots of fighting and wandering in Terfin, finally the Avatar reaches the throne room and finds Blackthorn there, but the Guardian has already left for parts unknown. Blackthorn grovels and pleads for mercy. Shamino suggest bringing him to LB so he can confess. The Avatar takes Blackthorn to LB and he confesses. LB has Blackthorn put to death. LB is getting some strength and vigor back thanks to the shutdown of the columns (save one) and Hawkwind’s arrival in the castle a few days ago. Hawkwind warns that the columns are primed and will release soon destroying everything and funneling the power of that destruction into the Guardian making him greatly powerful. He says that the plan had been to keep the Avatar busy and off balance long enough for the columns to finish the wind up. Hawkwind says that the runes of virtue can save the populace if we can get them to Skara Brae as soon as possible. He says to place the runes at the carnal points of the compass marked on the island and the virtues will take care of the rest. He then indicates that LB and the Avatar must make a final journey to Stonegate to confront the Guardian for it was from there that he cast forth the runes to form the columns.

Before the Avatar can go to Skara Brae he gets the lens from LB (and one he got earlier from Vesagralem ,the Gargoyle king...another story) and journeys to the Abyss. He fights the Slasher of the Veils, turns off the column and releases Amoranth and Verona which journey with him back to Skara Brae.

Lots of people on Skara Brae when Avatar, LB, Verona and Amoranth arrive. Companions all stay while Avatar places runes and leaves with LB. They arrive at Stonegate and face the Guardian in one of the lower chambers and slay him, but LB is weakened in the battle. Hawkwind appears once more and tells the Avatar that even though the Guardian is defeated for he moment the power of the unleashed life energy when the columns let go will restore him and power him up. The life force of Britannia must be eliminated to defeat him for good. LB mentions the Armageddon spell. They must get to the roof of Stonegate pronto! Once getting there LB is incapable of doing the spell, he is too weak and decides if Britannia must die then he will go with his world. The Avatar discovers that he too must infuse himself into the spell and that he will ’pass on’ with its casting. Hawkwind’s voice tells him that this is but a step and that he will ascend beyond this realm to a higher place. Avatar casts the spell.

(The really freaking cool flic occurs): Spell of destruction rips forth from Stonegate moving forth in waves across the land. Deer flash into ashes, trees blow up, cities are destroyed. Worried people stand on Skara brae as they can see the wave of destruction heading their way. Suddenly waves of light pulse from the runes and lines of power form a dome over the island just as the destructive wave hits. Slowly the island pulls loose from the planet (looks like an old Roger Dean painting form the Yessongs album) and rockets out into space. A cut from above shows the speck of light zooming off into the distance with most of Britannia and the companions on board. Slowly we see the planet crack and tear apart, then a final explosion. Closing credits...........................”

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Here’s what Bob White himself thought about the whole affair:

“My reason for answering [inquiries about the original plot]was really to show the fans how games and their stories evolve. Often times the evolution is out of our hands (via deadlines, corporate changes and such). The game you have now has a very good story and is an Ultima, I am sure Richard saw to that. Don’t let any bugginess in the product overshadow what the core of the game is. In time the bugs will be cleared up and the game will shine and all will be happy.

The old story was monumental in scope and because of a lot of factors things had to change and progress to what it is now. Would I have liked to seen the old plot completed....You bet! Am I dissappointed it changed, not really since I expected it. New people on a project bring new ideas and new focuses and those are not necessarily bad. What you have is a talented core design team who assembled the best story for an Ultima that they thought possible. This was the same thing when I was there, but we had a different focus and different ideas. Which one is better...that is all up to individual tastes, but what is there now is still a great story and very Ultima.

Hats off to a a talented team for working through an unbelievable hard deadline and under very adverse conditions. They have created a monumental product and one they can be proud of. A big pat on the back to Bill, Chuck, Dave, Jim, Andy, Herman, Gary, Bev, Jennifer, Scottie-cakes, Scott, Bren, Michael, Bob, Seth, Richard, Amy, Carly and who ever else I missed. I am sure that Bill and his team of programmers are pulling their hair out nightly to kill off the bugs and make the game even better. I look forward to adventuring my way through Brittania...as soon as I get past my own deadlines :)”

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Jul 14 2006, 09:27 PM) 243337</div>
There's no problem with this patch. The books are always there, and you have to think twice before you find hints for the test in them, maybe you just overlooked them. Try searching at the second floor.
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I just finished the game, after playing it a second time, the books at the monastery of the theurgists suddenly were there. In my first play, they were not there so I guess that WAS a bug.

[Roadkill]

You know the monastery of the theurgist, Can anyone tell me what the hell that funny shape changing item is.... If you double click on it the avater says he is not powerful enough to use it yet.

I've finished the game twice now and have found no use for it so far. :blink:

[Scatty]

Ah yes, there're only rumors, that this item was originally intended to play some role in the never released expansion "Lost Vale". It doesn't play any role in the original game, however, except that sentence and the kneeling of Avatar.
Another strange "item" - if you leave Tenebrae by the east gate (in the left town part of Tenebrae) and go up to the "north" until you reach the river, then follow the river until the mountains arise, you'll see a small cave. If you enter this cave and go through to a spot where they're bars enclosing a chest and two (if I remember correctly) levers, and then continue further south and little down, you'll see a sack with some reagents. Somewhere either below the sack or in it there's a strange white-blue item that slightly resembles a whistle. You can't use it in any way, and you can't use it as a reagent. Anyone else noticed it, and maybe knows more about it?

Edit: Actually people, guess what? There was ONE copy of Lost Vale box that was released and has been sold! Though it seems no actual addon as the software itself. Someone bought it for a private collection and some information about it can be found here:
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_VIII)
Lost Vale gamebox details (http://www.imaginationoverdrive.com/ultima.htm)

[Vaikunta]

About the Lost Vale addon, the developers really worked on it, but couldn't finish it in time. Here's a link to where you can find some screenshots of the real game. http://www.bootstrike.com/Ultima8/downloads.html
The download is entitled Ultima VIII: Lost Vale Screen Shots . This site is great, has tons of things about ultima.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vaikuntha @ Jul 20 2006, 03:26 PM) 244176</div>
About the Lost Vale addon, the developers really worked on it, but couldn't finish it in time. Here's a link to where you can find some screenshots of the real game. http://www.bootstrike.com/Ultima8/downloads.html
The download is entitled Ultima VIII: Lost Vale Screen Shots . This site is great, has tons of things about ultima.
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Theres a really good sound patch here and also one that allows you to run the game under windows 98... ufortunately its not compatible with windows XP but I'm sure a few of you smart buggers out there could work your way around that. :ok:

[Guest_Ian_*]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Jul 20 2006, 01:36 PM) 244157</div>
Ah yes, there're only rumors, that this item was originally intended to play some role in the never released expansion "Lost Vale". It doesn't play any role in the original game, however, except that sentence and the kneeling of Avatar.
Another strange "item" - if you leave Tenebrae by the east gate (in the left town part of Tenebrae) and go up to the "north" until you reach the river, then follow the river until the mountains arise, you'll see a small cave. If you enter this cave and go through to a spot where they're bars enclosing a chest and two (if I remember correctly) levers, and then continue further south and little down, you'll see a sack with some reagents. Somewhere either below the sack or in it there's a strange white-blue item that slightly resembles a whistle. You can't use it in any way, and you can't use it as a reagent. Anyone else noticed it, and maybe knows more about it?[/b]

I also found that mysterious blue object that dosn't seem to do anything...strange that it's there.

[Vaikunta]

I also found that mysterious blue object that dosn't seem to do anything...strange that it's there.[/b]
I hate EA for rushing Origin...

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Durak @ Jun 30 2004, 04:58 PM) 4374</div>
That didn't work, it was more choppy than slow. Although it was REALLY slow...
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:sos: i can't evan get it too install on my comp :sos:

[Scatty]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 27 2006, 04:52 PM) 245510</div>
:sos: i can't evan get it too install on my comp :sos:
[/b]
Read through this thread systematically, there should be a description of how to install Ultima 8 first time so it works later always.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Jul 27 2006, 06:35 PM) 245527</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 27 2006, 04:52 PM) 245510
:sos: i can't evan get it too install on my comp :sos:
[/b]
Read through this thread systematically, there should be a description of how to install Ultima 8 first time so it works later always.
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ok thanks :ok:

[XoutbackX]

Ok, i downloaded the game on this site and said i needed vdsound so i downloaded that...and dosbox but whene i go too install and run with vdm sound and it installs but whene i try too run the game with vdm sound it will not work......... :sos:

[XoutbackX]

ok, this is outback and my messgae needs to be awserd! :titan:

[The Fifth Horseman]

Yes, yes... This aint a chatroom, you know? Demanding an immediate reply will have right the opposite effect.

If the game doesn't work with VDMSound... try DosBox. 's all.

[klemen912]

:sos: I don't know how to run the game!!! :sos: :wallbash:

[Scatty]

Download DosBox from the Programs section on the main site and play Ultima 8 in it.

[The Fifth Horseman]

It seems you are trying to run the game in plain Windows. I strongly suggest you use DosBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net) instead.
You can download DosBox here (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1).

If you have any problems with it, try having a look at the official FAQ (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php) on the DosBox site.
Basic Setup and Installation (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+Dos Box)
Command Line (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=CommandLine)
Z instead of C at the command prompt (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=FAQ%2FI+have+got+a+Z)
Internal Programs (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Internal+Programs) (important, especially MOUNT)
Most of the stuff in there is not really needed, but youb would do best to familiarize yourself with the specific topics I linked to.
The mounting of your DosBox games directory, switching the promt to the emulated C: drive and clearing the screen from previous commands can all be executed from the [autoexec] section of dosbox.conf (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=dosbox.conf), so you won't have to re-type them every time round.
Frontend programs (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=DOSBoxFrontends) can help running DosBox with varying configurations for different games.
For both a more accessible user interface and oldschool feel, you can use Norton Commander (get it from our programs and utilities page (http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=programs) - scroll down to the bottom to find it). NC might seem awkward at first, but in fact it is a very functional genuine DOS era file manager frontend. It has a plethora of functions that will help you in navigating around the directories, while still retaining the command prompt.

Though all of this might seem complicated, it's very easy once you get used to it. So remember:

DON'T PANIC!!! ^_^

[Vaikunta]

I've decided to post random tips without spoilers regularly to help those who only seek guidance.

Magical weapons weigh only 1, so this means you can have lots of them in your backpack. The Deceiver, Khumash-Gor's scimitar and Flame Sting are the best melee weapons (there are no missile, for some reason) with advantages on each one. I strongly recommend having these with you, on specific situations you will learn with experience.

[Guest]

how dost thou jump on this game?

[swiss]

thou needest to press both mouse buttons at the same time, Avatar.

At least that is what I think to remember ...

[Guest_Aubor_*]

Wonderfull. The download is back and the evil empire of ESA has relented. Horah!!

This is the only Ultima game I have never played. I remember looking at the box in the store when it was new and wondered, "Should I buy this? or should I get Mercenaries instead?". I had been burnt out by the massive openess of Black Gate so relented and bought the quick fix instead. I have never been able to find it since. Thank God for Abandonia.



Ever thought about getting Privateer 2: The Darkening? Blood Bowl? Birthright? Spycraft? TerraNova? Mechwarrior 2?

I have a few of those on hand for uploading but not all. Also I was suprised to not see any Bards Tales from the old Atarii series.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Blood Bowl is actually already on the site :). Terra Nova and MW2 are not eligible - SOLD and ESA'd, respectively, if I recall it right.

[Vaikunta]

Random tip:

I forgot to mention, but the best weapon on the game is RUN! You are faster than most things in Pagan. The only enemies you should face in the beginning are Ghouls, those slow-reaction zombies that wander. They are abundant and are fairly easy to kill. To attack efficiently, just double-click when your weapon is behind your head, in a "prepare" position. When it attacks and comes back again, double-click. If you have a biy of experience, you should begin the double-click almost before the weapon is readied, but you can "block" the attack (useless)

If you are running it under Windows, you can activate a function that enables you to use the NumPad as the mouse itself, the Num5 being the left-click. Using it is better in a way, you don't have to smash your mouse to attack fiercely. Just enter the Command Panel and search for something like accesibility options

DON'T FACE MORE THAN 1 ENEMY AT A TIME! This is important too. When you have killed enough ghouls, and have a magic weapon such as the Deceiver (1-19 attack), you can face thougher enemies.

[Vaikunta]

What is needed to keep this alive?

If you find a locked door, this applies to Tenebrae mainly, try to jump and climb something in order to gain entrance to the house. Those little 'outposts' you see going south from Mordra's palace can be breached. It is easy, just take little steps forwars until that 'bridge' becomes invisible, meaning you are below it, then go backwards 1 step and put the cursor in you, then jump. You will climb it and feel free to plunder.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Durak @ Jun 30 2004, 04:58 PM) 4374</div>
That didn't work, it was more choppy than slow. Although it was REALLY slow...
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I have downloaded and installed ultima 8...and it dont work! im in windows 98....so...what should i do?

[Mighty Midget]

What doesn't work, exactly? Have you read the other posts? Maybe the answer is there.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Aug 19 2006, 06:18 PM) 249646</div>
What doesn't work, exactly? Have you read the other posts? Maybe the answer is there.
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i read then ...but in the site is saying that dos box is needed for windows xp.....besides....i already downloaded the dos box...and i dont knew how to install...

[The Fifth Horseman]

As you have Windows 9x, DOSBox and VDMSound are not an option - and you don't need them either.

These two topics should help:
How to configure DOS for gaming (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7302)
Win98 - Memory (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4382)
Another option is to use Abandonia's bootdisk (http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=bootdisk)

[Guest_Moe_*]

I know you guys are gonna tell me to read through the thread but i couldnt find what i wanted.

The game keeps giving me a halting installation/sound/ A#$%#$%.dll

i cant get it to install.. to make things worse i actually own the CD but now i'm trying it from the version i downloaded here.

second thing that sucks is that a few months ago i actually got it to run with dosbox but now i forgot how to do it.

My c: drive is where i have dosbox.. i have it in C:\dos\CDrive\U8

and i have an F drive and G Drive as cdrom but i gues si don need it coz i downlpoaded the game so i'm not usin gthe cd i own

and i have D drive also to write on as hard-disk

what shold i mount, what should i do.. do i need a defend? i forgot all this stuff, please help

[The Fifth Horseman]

You might want to check out the official DosBox FAQ (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php), and particularly this part of it. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+Dos Box).

[Guest]

1.1. What is Pentagram?

Pentagram is a game engine for running Ultima 8 on modern operating systems.

http://pentagram.sourceforge.net/ :ok:

[Johann The Geek du Preez]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stroggy @ Jun 28 2004, 09:56 AM) 4165</div>
hmmm
how odd
the game runs very slowly
I've tried ctrl+f12 in dosbox but that doesn't have any effect.

Do you hear the people talk? because I can't seem to skip the dialogue... and the dialogue lasts for a very long time.
[/b]

OK. Edit the dosbox.conf file.
Under the [render] sectionframeskip is default 0. Change it to 5
Under the [cpu] section cycles is default 3000. Change it to 6500
or press Ctrl+F12 until cycles at the top reads 6500

This will not harm dosbox in any way. it will not harm your computer either. another trick that you can look at is by pressing right-clicking your taskbar and then click task manager. click the processes tab and then click on "user name" click on all the processes linked to your username except for explorer.exe and taskmgr.exe and then click end process. even thought there is a warning. click yes. then rund dosbox.

also set your options inside the game it is textspeed or something to a value other than 5. if to slow set higher. if too fast set lower. you can also activate frame skipping if needed. :brain:

[Guest]

Hey, I used to play this game when I was younger, and just found it again. I've downloaded it, and have got it to load in dosbox, but i can't actually seem to play it!
My mouse doesnt seem to work. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Like, I get dropped in the water, asked for my name, and then I end up by that guy and the boat and the fish. And I move the mouse around, which shows up as a blue arrow, but it doesn't do anything.
Can someone help??
I've tried to look in all the online handbooks I can find, but nothing seems to have the answer! Any help would be really appreciated!
Thanks

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

I ran this game on Windows XP, and it was slooow...
Does anyone have any advice?

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

to add to that, it doesn't tell you how to save your game.

[Huno]

Play it in DosBox, and increase the CPU cycles with CTRL+F12 for faster speed. To save the game, press ESC and choose save game. Quite obvious for almost all games I know.

[Tannman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kosta @ Jun 27 2004, 09:08 PM) 4120</div>
Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review (http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=135)
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Being an old Ultima die hard since IV I found U8 lacked many of the qualities that made the series great and unique. The graphics are excellent and the music enchanting however the storyline was annoying, I did not like the whole business of another world. I still plau Ultima Online and still feel of all the RPG series that hav4 been written the Avatar was the best, however this chapter was below what I expected.

[Deichgraf]

hm...

I can't seem to patch the game, everytime I try it says "check patch parameters" :(

[Guest]

first of all.. THIS GAME ROCKS!! i installed it in my computer and it ran well.. sounds, graphics.. but i can't play it in full screen, did i miss anything?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Can't play it in fullscreen? Why?
What happens when you try to?

[Guest]

exactly my problem,, i dunno how to play it in full screen, i don't know how to adjust speed, frame, etc.., because it's my first time using dosbox., where can i find the options to adjust these things? or is it automatically set by the program or i can set it up manually?

[Guest]

one more thing, what's the maximum points for strength, dexterity, and intelligence, i can't boost them up more than 25, is it the maximum they can get or is there another way to increase it?

[The Fifth Horseman]

DosBox can be switched between windowed and fullscreen modes by pressing [ALT]+[ENTER].

You might also want to check out the official DosBox FAQ (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php), and particularly this part of it. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+Dos Box) It is quite helpful for users unfamiliar with DosBox.
And don't forget the readme file. It's got all the keyboard shortcuts listed.

You can configure the starting values of frameskip, cycles and so on in dosbox.conf (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=dosbox.conf).

[Guest]

allright..!! problems solved.. yet another has revealed :wallbash: .. this game runs slow on my computer, if i try to increase its speed by using F6 or F12 the game moves faster but it's getting lagged. i'm using WINXP supported by Pentium 4 1.6 GHz and 256MB of memory, can u tell me what's the best setting 4 this spec? or is there any way to play this game perfectly on my computer? everything runs well except for the game gets lagged everytime i tried to increase its speed :tai:

[The Fifth Horseman]

Let's try the following
1. Enable Dynamic Core (that's in Dosbox.conf)
2. Increase cycles
3. Increase frameskip

[Guest]

where can i find this dosbox.conf? or how do i summon it? i can only find dosbox.conf in file and all i can do is read it.. sorry b4 dude.. i'm really new to this stuff

[Mighty Midget]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Nov 1 2006, 06:59 PM) 264849</div>
where can i find this dosbox.conf? or how do i summon it? i can only find dosbox.conf in file and all i can do is read it.. sorry b4 dude.. i'm really new to this stuff
[/b]

Look in Start -> Programs -> Dos Box -> Dos Box Conf

Basically, the conf file is just a text file that can be edited just by typing the words, phrases and numbers you want. All you have to do, when you find it, is to open it and edit the relevant lines. In the conf there is plenty of information on what the different lines do and what options you have in editing them.

Being a text file, you can also open and edit it in say, Notepad.

EDIT: IMPORTANT. If you're really new to this, you should make a back-up copy of the conf file before editing it.